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Battery Charging Issue

Does anyone know if the Wizard is capable of charging its battery in a completely powered down state?
The battery on my Wizard (G4 Qtek 9100) was low today, but I just ignored it, the battery ended up running down completely to the point that the phone powered off, and would not turn back on when I tried to repower it. I connected the charger and left it sit for about half an hour, the charging light did not light, but I left it to charge. After the half hour I figured it should have gained enough charge to power on, so I tried and no luck. Luckily I have a charged spare battery, so I left the dead battery in the phone and wedged thin wires in between the dead battery contacts, and the phone's spring loaded contacts. I connected the + of the dead battery to the + of the spare, and the - of the dead to the - of the spare. Now both batteries are connected to the phone in parallel. This allowed me to power the phone up and boot it all the way up, where the charging indicator LED lit. I disconnected the spare battery, so that the dead battery can charge on its own. Sofar it looks like it is taking the charge.
I'm wondering if some of the people that have "bricked" phones might have run into the same problem that I have. If you have a "bricked" phone, try using another battery that you know has a charge.

go in registry with totalcommander or something similar to this key:
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\usbfndrv
and change : EnableUsbCharging to '1'
press reset after u done this.
i had this several times with death battery and wouldnt charge on usb on the
computer but it did with the original charger.

Thanks, i'll give that a try. Just curious, do you know anything about how that works? I'm wondering how a registry key can controll a piece of hardware that has been completely powered down, and that windows mobile hasn't yet booted on.

Notification LED red.....MDA dead

Help....seems that my Magician is dead....making a long phone call (1 h) after call end, display switch off and Notification led become fix Blue (bluethoot was off) and then i try to hard reset. Led switch off and no results. I try then to put the power supply cable and the led become RED.... !!! (neve seen red.....) pda is not switching on anymore...any details on the reason of this RED light ???....please.....
thanks in advance

Red LED means the battery isn't connected or the device can't charge.
Try taking the battery out for a few hours and try to switch the device on again.
My brother in-law had the red LED issue too, we solved it by 'kick starting' the battery with two wires and a 9v battery. (At your own risk of course).
Good luck!

helterskelter said:
Red LED means the battery isn't connected or the device can't charge.
Try taking the battery out for a few hours and try to switch the device on again.
My brother in-law had the red LED issue too, we solved it by 'kick starting' the battery with two wires and a 9v battery. (At your own risk of course).
Good luck!
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Red Led doesn't mean that the battery is not connect with the device. It simply means the cover is not properly intact. Try taking out the battery off the device, put it back in the slot. Place the cover carefully and completely. And then connect the device to AC power supply. It would definitely come *alive*

still dead....grrrr
so cover is ok...it seems to be properly fixed, even the smal swithch that create some unwanted crash few months ago is now working properly...
i made a 1 h long phone call with battery and charger (usb from pc) and after line felt down, bluetooth led blue on (was off) and screen with phone but no changement by touching it. so switch off by power off and ...dead...now without battery but with charger (or usb from PC) RED led on. With batttery AND charger RED on, and with battery all dead. i cannot reset anyhow with or without battery /charger....need it...sh*t.....(ops...sorry)
thanks a lot anyway....

omino_ribelle said:
so cover is ok...it seems to be properly fixed, even the smal swithch that create some unwanted crash few months ago is now working properly...
i made a 1 h long phone call with battery and charger (usb from pc) and after line felt down, bluetooth led blue on (was off) and screen with phone but no changement by touching it. so switch off by power off and ...dead...now without battery but with charger (or usb from PC) RED led on. With batttery AND charger RED on, and with battery all dead. i cannot reset anyhow with or without battery /charger....need it...sh*t.....(ops...sorry)
thanks a lot anyway....
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what I will suggest is, you should get a new battery instead!!

Got the same problem now!
Both my wife and me got a Magician. Hers is dead now - same symptoms.
First guess was dead battery as well. But I exchanged it with mine fully loaded. No difference!
Usually when you plug the powercord into the device orange flashes up and device boots. Here nothing happens.
I'll have some electrician have a look at both. Maybe he can find the fault by comparison. But I don't expect a lucky outcome.

on back side of ur device when u remove the battery cover, u see a small black switch on the right side just next to the battery.
put the device on charge..with cover off---it will show red light contunuously on.
now manually press gently that black switch and see if ur device starts to charge.
if u see a yellow light any point of time doing this u may have to get this little switch repaired or do a temporary work urself by kepping it at place manually bu something.
try and tell

Now it works!
I think we all knew about that little switch. But thanks for your thoughts.
Anyway, hers is running again!
Two days ago I took it fully apart. No obvious fault noticeable. I left it the way it was now to prepare it for shipping. Today my wife asked me I should try it just once again. So I held the battery on the connector and plugged the USB cable and then: it booted!
But the internal battery doesn't seem to recover. It stays at 0% (1h "charging" since then).
I have to correct myself: Even the internal battery is charging (but it takes its time).

my magician is also dead and just the red LED is burning when i put it in the USB! Can anybody help me?

Still ned solution!
Can some one who was having the same problem help?

your device battery detector switch(little switch) is broken or logged-out of Main Board.
when it broken,the red LED is on at all.
it is the greatest weakness of magician...

z_qz54 said:
your device battery detector switch(little switch) is broken or logged-out of Main Board.
when it broken,the red LED is on at all.
it is the greatest weakness of magician...
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i am opening my jam case,bring the switch out and conecting sides of switch by a piece of wire.now a day there no problem with openning the battery case or.. but my WM cant recognize the battery level.it's alway 0%.and even the charger is connected no orange led i can see.but the charger charge the battery and battery works for more than one day!!!!!!!!
any one with the same problem!????
or any one having solution!
REGARDS

I'm gettingn red led light too when charging from wall outlet. Charging from usb is fine. a weird thing is when my battery came down to 50%, imate jam will shut down and won't successfully reboot. some people from this form mentioned it's an indicator that the battery is dying.

My Hermes does not power on :(

SITUATION
My Cingular 8500 does not power on. I have tried connecting it to wall charger as well as USB cable. The red or the orange light also does not come on. I tried all resets also but nothing worked.
BACKGROUND
a. My phone suddenly went off when I was opening the sliding keyboard. It had a decent (60%) charge at that time. After this it refuses to come on.
b. Only addition to the phone in the last 3 months has been a 2GB MicroSd Card. I inserted this card 4 days back and it was working fine.
c. The device is around 6 months old (but its unlocked, running WM6 and does not have any warranty)
d. I have been using the original wall charger to charge this phone regularly.
HELP REQUIRED
1. Is there a way to check if the problem is with the battery or with the phone? I do not have a spare battery.
2. Should any light come on if I connect the phone to charger without the battery inserted in it?
Thanks!

Try this:
1.) Remove battery
2.) Connect Hermes to charger or USB
3.) Insert the battery while Hermes is connected to charger
4.) Red light should turn Amber
5.) Soft Reset

i have the same situation going on ... except with mine the screen faded out...it came back on once...and faded out again and will not turn back on.. when i put it on the charger it was a red light.. and will not turn on or soft reset, or enter bootloader or hard reset. .. in addition i tried the method above and nothing has worked.... any other suggestions...my phone was working fine when this happened out of nowhere... i dont have insurance either i bought the phone from someone off of craigslist..help is greatly appreciated

I am having the exact same problem, I had about 30% charge, then it just shut off, and now will not come back on under its own power or via USB nor charger. I tried connecting the charger then inserting the battery, but I do not get any indicator lights at all.
I was running WM6, and the most recent thing installed was the pointUI home screen replacement app.
has anyone experienced this before?

theconcon said:
SITUATION
My Cingular 8500 does not power on. I have tried connecting it to wall charger as well as USB cable. The red or the orange light also does not come on. I tried all resets also but nothing worked.
BACKGROUND
a. My phone suddenly went off when I was opening the sliding keyboard. It had a decent (60%) charge at that time. After this it refuses to come on.
b. Only addition to the phone in the last 3 months has been a 2GB MicroSd Card. I inserted this card 4 days back and it was working fine.
c. The device is around 6 months old (but its unlocked, running WM6 and does not have any warranty)
d. I have been using the original wall charger to charge this phone regularly.
HELP REQUIRED
1. Is there a way to check if the problem is with the battery or with the phone? I do not have a spare battery.
2. Should any light come on if I connect the phone to charger without the battery inserted in it?
Thanks!
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The Power LED should light up "red" other than that your wont get any juice. And read my second reply, try radioshack
Eamonn said:
I am having the exact same problem, I had about 30% charge, then it just shut off, and now will not come back on under its own power or via USB nor charger. I tried connecting the charger then inserting the battery, but I do not get any indicator lights at all.
I was running WM6, and the most recent thing installed was the pointUI home screen replacement app.
has anyone experienced this before?
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It wont power on threw charger without a "good" battery plugged in.
Sounds like u might have a bad battery. Happend to a friend of mine "different phone" just go to a local Radioshack If they have your type of battery and have one in stock they will most likely let you try one on your phone. If not just go to ATT wireless store and see if they have one you can try and buy.

demo23019 said:
The Power LED should light up "red" other than that your wont get any juice. And read my second reply, try radioshack
Sounds like u might have a bad battery. Happend to a friend of mine "different phone" just go to a local Radioshack If they have your type of battery and have one in stock they will most likely let you try one on your phone.
It wont power on threw charger without a "good" battery plugged in.
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I really hope thats the problem because it's an easy solution, otherwise I fear it might be toast. thanks for your advise

No light when connected to charger
Thanks all for your responses!
markafreeman said:
Try this:
1.) Remove battery
2.) Connect Hermes to charger or USB
3.) Insert the battery while Hermes is connected to charger
4.) Red light should turn Amber
5.) Soft Reset
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Dear Markafreeman, I tried the entire routine above but no help.
demo23019 said:
The Power LED should light up "red" other than that your wont get any juice. And read my second reply, try radioshack
It wont power on threw charger without a "good" battery plugged in.
Sounds like u might have a bad battery. Happend to a friend of mine "different phone" just go to a local Radioshack If they have your type of battery and have one in stock they will most likely let you try one on your phone. If not just go to ATT wireless store and see if they have one you can try and buy.
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Dear demo23019, I am not sure if I understand the above correctly. Should the Power LED light up "red" when battery is not inserted?
Once I connect the phone to charger (wall or USB), without the battery inserted in it, no red light comes on.
Does this mean that there is some problem with the phone hardware?

theconcon said:
Dear demo23019, I am not sure if I understand the above correctly. Should the Power LED light up "red" when battery is not inserted?
Once I connect the phone to charger (wall or USB), without the battery inserted in it, no red light comes on.
Does this mean that there is some problem with the phone hardware?
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Yea the power LED should light up red with out a battery plugged in. Check the usb plug on the bottom of your phone, make sure the middle piece inside is still there and didnt break off.

demo23019 said:
Yea the power LED should light up red with out a battery plugged in. Check the usb plug on the bottom of your phone, make sure the middle piece inside is still there and didnt break off.
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Oops. My phone's power LED does not light up when I connect it to the charger without the battery inserted in it.
I have checked the following :
a. usb plug is fine (I checked it by plugging it into the Y cable for the USB charger. The LED on the Y cable lights up when I connect the USB plug into it
b. The middle piece inside the socket at the bottom of the phone is still there and shows no signs of damage.
c. The wall charger is also working fine.
Does this conclude that the phone has a hardware fault and this is not linked to the battery being dead?

Similar Problems
I just had the same problem. I had it happen to my Att Tilt and then to my cingular 8525. You should check out this thread and maybe post your info there too, it would be nice to see everybody post in the same thread so we can figure out what's going on.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1783005&posted=1#post1783005

yh
yh i got the same problem, i touched the power button so it wld go into standby, and it then refused to turn back on, even when i soft resetted it. Plugged it into the wall charger without the battery and there is no red power light coming on.
I've got a MDA Vario II and though im gettin a replacement, it kinda sucks as it seems im gna lose all my data

can we try to determine in more detail what people installed before they experienced this?

I just pulled it apart, and cleaned the inside to no avail, nothing seems to be awry, atleast not to my untrained eye, however it did get me thinking.
I listen to music on my tytn all the time, and over time the usb connector has become quite loose, frequently losing connections over activesync and music comes and goes from both lef and right. if the USB connector is shot, then when I plug it in it won't register that there is power, nor will it have the power to light up the red light indicating there is no battery. also, if the usb link is shot, then the phone wasn't charging so my battery is likely dead.
now to test this out I need to have a verified 100% charged battery.

I currently have the same problem. It will not charge via wall/usb. It flashes red once and that's it. Without the battery and plugged in, I get a solid red light. I tried plugging it into the wall charger without a battery and then putting my battery back in. The red light just turns off. That's it. I can get an active sync connection with a dim white screen, but I do not have enough juice to try flashing a new rom. If anyone has issues like these, are you also able to get an activesync connection?
TIA
EDIT: Is it possible to bypass the low battery protection when flashing a rom? My battery is somewhere around 40% so it would be safe.

Update:
Okay, I purchased a new oem battery and a battery charging dock. This way I can charge the battery without the phone before I attempt to flash a new rom.
I still would appreciate it if anyone who has seen these symptoms (white screen BUT with lots of vibrating / no charging / no bootloader) could give me a few pointers. I've exhausted the Wiki and so far it seems my only option to save the phone is to flash a new rom. Thanks in advance to anyone willing to give me some advice.

[Q] Nook Simple Touch not responding?

This was what happened - my N2T went dead, and I charged it up to 100%. It has previously been rooted with TouchNooter, and since my market wouldn't open, I overrooted it with TouchSalsa. Or so I remember. It may be different. I just remember that I used 2 different roots over each other. Didn't think anything would happen...
Anyways, all was fine and dainty with the N2T till the day the battery's charge was depleted. Charged it to full - Battery Indicator went green - and then proceeded to unlock it.
It was still responding at the lock screen, but once I unlocked it, it went straight to my Android home screen, and it just hanged. It has been showing the Android homescreen for quite a while now (probably due to the static e-ink screen, I believe it has died for a long long time), and nothing I do will make it reboot. I thought about forcing the battery out, but it was not user removable.
n2T-recovery wouldn't work too, as I can't make it reboot.
Any answers as to how I could make it rebott and/or restore the firmware like how I could force an iDevice into DFU mode?
Any help would be appreciated, as I imported this device into my country and it is not possible for me to send it back .
If anyone has encountered this problem before, feel free to shout out here too. My Nook Simple Touch has died for around 2 weeks now. I was hoping that the battery would run out and I could charge it but.... the battery indicator STILL shows green when I plug it in.
Also, whenever I plug it into my computer, the connected sound that happens when you plug in a USB drive just sounds - followed immediately by the disconnect sound. This happens in a loop until I plug out the Nook.

Try disconnecting the battery (by opening the nook) ...

zholy said:
Try disconnecting the battery (by opening the nook) ...
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Same issue, i already open the cover and remove battery, the screen still display screensaver. Then I plugged NT into wall charger , then removed (to try make it reboot). Plugged battery into again but , plugged charger . But nothing happened, still the same.
Any other solution?

Just a hint: It appears that the Nook won't boot without the battery in.
I don't know if it's an interlock with the temperature sensor on the battery.
The chip that does the power management is capable of powering a CPU with a dead/shorted/missing battery.

Guess no one had a similar issue?

It is the same with my NST. It was bricked when I root it back to factory restore. The battery light is green, do everything you did to the battery, still no respond. I am not in the US so I can not take my NST to the local B&N store.
I get my NST only 1 week...
PS:Finally I get my NST back following this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1457971&page=14

Switching to ART and got the Red Light of Death

Hi there,
Yesterday I decided to dive into ART just to see what the differences may be. I ran into some trouble. I got it fixed but thought I would share my experience in case it may help someone else.
What I'm running:
Nexus 4 (mako) with Faster binned chip
Purity Rom 11/27
Franco Kernel 195
SuperSU 1.65
CWM Recovery
When I decided to switch to ART I had about 70% battery remaining. I did the switch and the phone rebooted to change over the lib. The phone booted as it would normally and was optimizing applications. I noticed that the phone had got really hot when I picked it up to check it. The screen was off at that point and I could not get it to turn on.
I connected it to a USB charger and I got a flashing red light. Crap. I followed the guides out there which advised holding Vol Up and Power for 60 seconds, releasing, and connecting power. I let it charge for over an hour as prescribed. This did not resolve my issue. I tried a few different chargers of varying output and found that the lower powered chargers gave me a blinking red light (trouble indicator, I believe) and my new iPad charger would give a solid red light (charging from a very low battery indicator). It still made no difference in booting however.
If I held down the Vol Up and Power and connected a lower powered USB charger I could get to fast boot which led me to believe that the system board was not fried. When I disconnected the power while in fastboot the phone would switch off. Seems that somehow a fuse (electronic I'd guess, I'm not an electrical engineer) was keeping the battery from powering the system board.
To resolve the issue I had to open the phone, disconnect the battery ribbon, wait 10 seconds and then reconnect it. Fired right up after that.
To open the phone you'll need a t-5 torx screwdriver, a non-marring pry tool and a small phillips head screwdriver.

Hi,
Thank you for your solution. I have the same problem and I couldn't fix it through flashing a factory image. I am confused though. Do you know why the problem is fixed by reconnecting the battery cable? I'll try whenever I get the tools to open the phone and I'll post back if it worked or not!

tommyboy76, got same problem, but fixed it by waiting about 2 hrs with "dead" phone, I didn't connected charger until it chilled down. Then after I connected charger and everything seems OK. It charged and turned it on as always.

I think it is an overload protection built in.
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