[Q] Switching to the Nexus 4 - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

SO here I am sitting here with My lemon of a phone the Samsung Galaxy S 19000m from Bell Mobility/ Virgin Mobile. Hard bricked it once had to get it fixed , display crapped out had to get that replaced last summer and now once again the display has crapped out once more. On top of that I can be connected to a strong wifi or mobile data point and the phone will randomly tell me no connection can be made check your signal or wifi connection. Had this phone almost three years and looking to trash it and get a Nexus 4.
What kind of difference can I expect going from the lemon to the nexus 4.

Well, you can't really squeeze the Nexus 4 and make juice from it, that's one advantage the lemon has. However, on the plus side you don't need to add sugar to enjoy your Nexus 4 either..

You shall drop neither.
Beside that, Nexus 4 can brighten your surroundings. But the lemon can make them soaking.

Go get it tiger
I think u should go for N4 but after Google I/O which isn't far. Who knows, u might end up with a 32 GB version in the same price as current 16 GB.

filthykid said:
Go get it tiger
I think u should go for N4 but after Google I/O which isn't far. Who knows, u might end up with a 32 GB version in the same price as current 16 GB.
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Well the screen on my galaxy will probably go totally dark in the next few days at this rate so will not be able to make out going calls just receive them. I am heavily leaning towards the Nexus but if my Tax return comes soon I am paying off my 200 supertab then possibly getting the S4 instead.

dantexaiver said:
Well the screen on my galaxy will probably go totally dark in the next few days at this rate so will not be able to make out going calls just receive them. I am heavily leaning towards the Nexus but if my Tax return comes soon I am paying off my 200 supertab then possibly getting the S4 instead.
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SO I did it i got me a Nexus 4 traded in that lemon. I rooted it last night and now am looking for a good rom to install I loved using Cyanogen mod is thsat any god on the Nexus or is there something better? What about Kernels? Also Im new to this Android Beem and NFC chip thing any recommendations for uses and apps?

dantexaiver said:
SO I did it i got me a Nexus 4 traded in that lemon. I rooted it last night and now am looking for a good rom to install I loved using Cyanogen mod is thsat any god on the Nexus or is there something better? What about Kernels? Also Im new to this Android Beem and NFC chip thing any recommendations for uses and apps?
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Even though I have rooted every other device I've ever owned, and ran CM on all of them, I kept my Nexus devices (4, 7) stock, unrooted. I don't find any reason to root, and I certainly wouldn't give up pure 4.2.2 for CM. The only reason I ever used CM on my other devices was because that was the closest I could get to pure Android. With the Nexus 4 there is no need to change anything, for me.
As far as NFC, Google Wallet is the main thing I use. I find no other real world usage for NFC as I think it's silly to put little stickers everywhere when tasker could accomplish the same feats. Android Beam, on the other hand is a cool feature but I don't use it much since I generally share whatever photos I have on social networks anyway, and I don't transfer 'files' very often.

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Is it worth it?

Hey guys, im thinking of buying a nexus 7, and for the price it is the bargain of the century.
but is it really worth it? ive got a S3 and thats getting JB soon
is there anything coming out soon that will be roughly the same price but any better?
Thanks Jack
I'm somewhat in the same boat as you but instead of upsizing in screen size I'm downsizing from a 10" tablet which is also set to recieve JB soon.
I think the largest factor in deciding if the Nexus 7 is right for you is knowing what you mostly use your cellphone for. If you mostly only surf the web, read books/articles, and watch movies trying to kill time when outside then a tablet isn't really right for you as a cellphone will have way more mobility and access to 4G internet. However, if you plan an using the Nexus 7 while sitting down somewhere or at home on the coach then the Nexus 7 would be a much better fit for you than just the SG3 due to the larger screen size and higher resolution.
Personally I dislike how cellphones such as the SG3 keep getting larger but I understand some people (like my parents) don't want mutiple devices of varying sizes but instead want something that can be used to fill various roles.
From what I've seen most of the tablets available at this moment or in the near future seem to have similar specs or features as the Nexus 7. However I'd suggest you stick with the Nexus 7 because there is much more support for the device as well as accessories. For now 7" tablets are still seen as "budget devices" so manufactures continue to make the exterior out of plastic with similar internals as others in the $200-300 price range.
I own a Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 7 and I feel like they complement the other perfectly. The Galaxy Nexus is perfect for on the go and what not, but while I'm home the Nexus 7 is my go to device.
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but is it really worth it?
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you just said its the bargain of the century!
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Yesssss.... but no more of these threads though...
Fully worth it mate. You won't find anything better for the price. Google are selling it cheap to get people on the play store, not make profit from the device itself.
Also, it's a nexus device, and nothing has better support than a nexus device. I'm fully sick of buying devices which never see updates.
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its worth, its size is nice to carry around with you, and well if your a regular around XDA i am sure you know how enable tethering on your phone.
It is really worth, pretty good size and performance really for a good price
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JackHanAnLG said:
is there anything coming out soon that will be roughly the same price but any better?
Thanks Jack
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Kindle Fire 2 ought to be announced soonish.
for me the only main annoyance with the n7 is the lack of optional 3G, it would be perfect if it had that.
for the price and the form factor and the technical specifications, nothing can come near it, I find I use my phone less and less (I have a htc velocity that has a 4.3 inch screen) and I'm uninstalling more and more off my phone, I may even end up just grabbing a smaller phone next time round as I carry the nexus 7 everywhere in my back pocket.
Using tablet talk, drop box and splash top, this has been pretty good at letting me get around the home and have everything funneled through WiFi. Plays games well, has amazing support, is the best Asus tablet I've owned actually. Takes my phone out of my pocket, keeps from needing to be at my comp to check my work email or open secure files, makes me portable. I'm pretty amazed. And this is a vanilla device, so it will always be up to date.
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davidcampbell said:
for me the only main annoyance with the n7 is the lack of optional 3G, it would be perfect if it had that..
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So you would rather pay for a second 3g service plan rather than just tethering off your phone and only having to pay for just one...
When I am walking around away from Wi-Fi, I just turn on tethering, stick the phone in my pocket and forget about it. The 4g in my phone is almost as good as my network at the house. No extra fees...
I have to have my phone with me at all times anyway 24x7 On call. In on 4g right now.
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davidcampbell said:
for me the only main annoyance with the n7 is the lack of optional 3G, it would be perfect if it had that.
for the price and the form factor and the technical specifications, nothing can come near it, I find I use my phone less and less (I have a htc velocity that has a 4.3 inch screen) and I'm uninstalling more and more off my phone, I may even end up just grabbing a smaller phone next time round as I carry the nexus 7 everywhere in my back pocket.
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You'd want to pay Telstra for two data plans?!?!?
Thanks for all the replies guys!
the reason i was asking it because im trying to get a YouTube account going! and i know there are alot of them out there that do android related stuff, and obviously the nexus 7 has been around for a while so i wont get many views/subs from something that was done a while ago!
i am still thinking of it and appreciate all the replies!
Jack

[Q] HTC One X Plus vs Nexus 4?

Which one would you recon would be a better all around phone
One X + specs http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4976
Nexus 4 specs http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_4_e960-5048.php
I would go for the nexus 4 but the 16gb space seems too limiting and I love the sense UI but also hate how manufacturers take ages to release the android os updates hence always turn to custom roms and am a frequent flasher.
which one would you also recon has better battery life?
i would compare htc with samsung but not with nexus..
getting a nexus phone isn't only about the specs of the phone,
if u need pure android and fast updates with limited hardware specs then go for nexus
if u need a device for its hardware spec like storage and the ability to increase is then i suggest u go with htc.
since the sgs 1 i got i will never go for other than the nexus samsung left as with their GB and never got updates since then..although we got many custom roms but still not like stock.
at the end it is ur decision be wise and think twice before taking the next step.
GoodLuck
It's your call on the phone. They have pros and cons. The flagship phones usually get updates longer then lower end models. HTC has good hardware. Nexus is bare bones and designed to be minimalist.
Why do people keep saying the Nexus is limited this or lacks hardware that? The Nexus 4 is one of the most powerful devices on the market. In fact, it has the smoothest performance out of all the devices. Do yourself a favor and get the Nexus, If you want somewhat better pictures then get the One X.
1gb of ram is fail, especially on a sense phone where the ui uses a third of your ram from boot
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marwan91 said:
i would compare htc with samsung but not with nexus..
getting a nexus phone isn't only about the specs of the phone,
if u need pure android and fast updates with limited hardware specs then go for nexus
if u need a device for its hardware spec like storage and the ability to increase is then i suggest u go with htc.
since the sgs 1 i got i will never go for other than the nexus samsung left as with their GB and never got updates since then..although we got many custom roms but still not like stock.
at the end it is ur decision be wise and think twice before taking the next step.
GoodLuck
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no sd card
and who says nexus 4 has limited hardware! its a powerful phone mc4 whit max setting(mod) runs at 50-29 FPS
I used to have a one s and a one x...and i would definitely keep the nexus over both. HTC's always get support for like a couple of months after release then just die. Also updates never happen. After the one s and x i'm most likely never going to buy another HTC again.
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How many VS. threads are yet to follow to clutter up XDA Use (for instance) Google and Youtube to search for and compare phones.
doesn't matter anymore
Since Google now updates apps instead of Os, getting a Nexus device no longer matters. Jelly Bean is a mature OS. Nothing really new out there. Rumours are 4.3 will contain minimal improvements. Not as important anymore. Go with phones that has features that matter to you now. Not 2 years from now.
but when 5.0 comes out people will come back to Nexus and bashing the OEM's again for being late because its a major update and that will take awhile.
plus, Seriously considering One X series?? do yourself a favor and get HTC One(M7). else, Nexus it is! spec might not be as good as S4 or One, but definitely smoother than them. We are talking about a device which is optimized/in-sync with the OS itself here.
its a no brainer to choose Nexus 4 for me cuz of the price. and updates are important, cuz you know money doesn't easily come so i have to make it count. i'm a geek so i have to be the latest in software. haha.
Stevedion said:
Since Google now updates apps instead of Os, getting a Nexus device no longer matters. Jelly Bean is a mature OS. Nothing really new out there. Rumours are 4.3 will contain minimal improvements. Not as important anymore. Go with phones that has features that matter to you now. Not 2 years from now.
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Incorrect. Nexus devices so matter. Nexus has one thing that other phones do not and that is the availability of working drivers from the very start.
When Android 4.3 come out, other phones will have broken auto rotate, cellular data, bluetooth, gps or whatever it may be because of the drivers not working properly with 4.3 and when 5.0 comes out, it will be even more significant to the point that it will be a large transition kind of like Gingerbread to Ice Cream Sandwich depending on what 5.0 includes.
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do yourself a favor and get HTC One(M7). else, Nexus it is! spec might not be as good as S4 or One, but definitely smoother than them.
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Agreed with everything else in the comment, but the HTC One is just as smooth as the N4 from what I've seen.
Nigeldg said:
Agreed with everything else in the comment, but the HTC One is just as smooth as the N4 from what I've seen.
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It's not noticeable but the slight stutter is there. I played with One almost everyday. It is fast, with RARE slowdown. Sometimes in loading an app.
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I have both phones and I would suggest to somebody to get the n4 over the x+ in a heartbeat. It's just an overall better phone in fact it's the best phone I've ever had the pleasure of owning. Plus if you are into modifying your your phone with roms and kernels then I do not suggest getting an x+. On the flip side the n4 has a huge development community that is extremely active
Meh Kittehs say meow from my Xperia TL
shadymouse said:
Why do people keep saying the Nexus is limited this or lacks hardware that? The Nexus 4 is one of the most powerful devices on the market. In fact, it has the smoothest performance out of all the devices. Do yourself a favor and get the Nexus, If you want somewhat better pictures then get the One X.
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True it is quite powerful, but when I was comparing the N4 to say a used S3, couple of things stood out (And course this could be the same comparison to a One X+)
- No user-removable battery, as such no extendable battery, the N4's powerful cpu can suck down that 2100mA battery pretty easy.
- No micro-SD card , so no readability there, but can put a 64GB into an S3
- No USB-OTG support (so can't just plan on using some 32GB thumbdrive, and you only have a choice of 8GB or 16GB, no 32GB model yet)
That's basically what my take on it, an its usually non-issue to most people.
Far as a N4 vs a One, just in terms of practicality and not doing number crunching, especially since I feel like both of them are rather nice and would likely be happy with either for day to day use.
On the N4 :
1) Extremely easy to unlock the bootloader (fastboot oem unlock, no codes, etc).
2) Extremely easy to add a custom recovery (fastboot flash recovery name-of-recovery.img)
3) Extremely easy to just add a custom rom (boot up into recovery, wipe, adb push what you want, flash)
4) Rather easy to root stock AOSP once you got recovery (TWRP will isntall SuperSu for you, just let SuperSu do the rest)
5) More likely to use the shipped AOSP rom than I would HTC Sense
6) If google says a phone is getting an update, it's getting an update, none of that HTC BS bout Desire-HD getting ICS then all the sudden Nope.
And besides, it's nearly impossible to hard brick a Nexus 4, if you're a flash-a-holic, unlike the HTC One X that my brother somehow hard-bricked (he only had it rooted, nothing more) and just shut down and is a paperweight (I spent maybe 3 weeks on seeing if I could repair it before it got tossed).
You could get an HTC one Google edition
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Sprint Galaxy S3 "Supernexus"
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Look it up.
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You could get an HTC one Google edition
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Sprint Galaxy S3 "Supernexus"
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Look it up.
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What price those going to run at anyways? I mean if it's 200-300$ more than the normal edition with Sense, I'd rather get a Nexus4 that already had the same treatment, or wait until the AOSP version been out a while, root a normal OneX+ and then put a rooted AOSP rom based on that release onto it and save a few hundred. (assuming physically both models are the same... though not likely).
Though if the price is at what NewEgg has it at right now (399$ (50% off) for an Unlocked HTC One X+ 16GB) , then it's a bit of a tougher decision compared to the 350$ you'd pay for the N4 16GB. But if it's at the 600-700$ range... I'm going for the N4.
This discussion began in Jan and the person who started this must have bought his phone by now. Shouldn't this thread be closed?
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This discussion began in Jan and the person who started this must have bought his phone by now. Shouldn't this thread be closed?
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Looks like kamranhaghighi (and maybe LuffyPSP) are to blame for necro-bumpin'
PS: In the searchable interwebs, topics like these rarely stay for the sole benefit of just the original poster. (course that being said I wonder how many other N4 vs HTC One [blank] threads there are).
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In the searchable interwebs, topics like these rarely stay for the sole benefit of just the original poster.
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Noted

I have to choose between N4 and S4

Hello my fellow N4 users,
I think I need your help with this one. I bought my N4 in december last year and I am very happy with it. Since I bought my S2 more than 2 years ago, I began rooting it and since then, I wanted to have a Nexus because of the rooting scene behind it.
I live in Holland and the N4 wasn't going to be sold trough the official way. So I went to a German city close to the Dutch border (2 hours driving) and paid 400 euro for my new N4.
It's running on the newest Rasbeanjelly 4.3 rom with Purified kernel. I am using stuff like Greenify and Awesome beats, Faux sound and so on.
There is just one thing I feel bad about and that's the two scratches on the screen (one of the scratches is about 5 cm.. ) because my case was on it's way and it was New Years Eve (I was drunk lol).
I have also bought the Nexus 7 2nd generation after I sold my old N7. Simply said, I love the Nexus line of Google.
Now, the dilemma. I work in a phone shop and we won a competition and now me and my colleagues will all receive a new Galaxy S4. When I saw this phone for the first time, I immediately love the screen. But when I was comparing by N4 (with PA 4.2.2) against the stock S4 of my friend, my N4 wasn't slower, no, it was even slightly faster. But the holiday pictures my friend took and showed them to me on his beautiful amoled screen were awesome..
Second, if I check out the S4 forums, there is so little AOSP and custom roms for the S4. And I know why, CM said a while ago that they would stop making roms for Samsung phones (or something like that) but it isn't relevant why it is so.
I am a root freak, like al of us here, and I don't want to use stupid Touchwiz. And I think a rooted S4 with the right custom rom can't be worse than a N4, right?!
So here are my questions:
Does anyone have experience with a rooted S4 on a custom rom and does it work and feel as smooth as a N4? (I know, maybe it's better to ask this in a S4 forum, but still)
And what would you recommend me based on the story above and your own opinion? Please, don't give answers like 'you say you love Nexus line and rooting, then it's better for you to stay with the N4, but give me another reason to choose better option. You could also think like I never used a N4 and S4 before but I'm still using my rooted S2, what would you recommend me then...
Besides that, the chance is very very big that I will buy the next Nexus
Thanks!
S4 has a better camera and display. If you must, get a Google edition S4 [EDIT: ROM!]
Get the s4. Sell it. Use the cash to buy the new nexus (nexus 5 or whatever).
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flash the google edition rom on your free s4 (I'm very very jealous) and you will (basiccally) have a nexus like device... however I'm not 100% sure it's possible
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Guzanni said:
Hello my fellow N4 users,
I think I need your help with this one. I bought my N4 in december last year and I am very happy with it. Since I bought my S2 more than 2 years ago, I began rooting it and since then, I wanted to have a Nexus because of the rooting scene behind it.
I live in Holland and the N4 wasn't going to be sold trough the official way. So I went to a German city close to the Dutch border (2 hours driving) and paid 400 euro for my new N4.
It's running on the newest Rasbeanjelly 4.3 rom with Purified kernel. I am using stuff like Greenify and Awesome beats, Faux sound and so on.
There is just one thing I feel bad about and that's the two scratches on the screen (one of the scratches is about 5 cm.. ) because my case was on it's way and it was New Years Eve (I was drunk lol).
I have also bought the Nexus 7 2nd generation after I sold my old N7. Simply said, I love the Nexus line of Google.
Now, the dilemma. I work in a phone shop and we won a competition and now me and my colleagues will all receive a new Galaxy S4. When I saw this phone for the first time, I immediately love the screen. But when I was comparing by N4 (with PA 4.2.2) against the stock S4 of my friend, my N4 wasn't slower, no, it was even slightly faster. But the holiday pictures my friend took and showed them to me on his beautiful amoled screen were awesome..
Second, if I check out the S4 forums, there is so little AOSP and custom roms for the S4. And I know why, CM said a while ago that they would stop making roms for Samsung phones (or something like that) but it isn't relevant why it is so.
I am a root freak, like al of us here, and I don't want to use stupid Touchwiz. And I think a rooted S4 with the right custom rom can't be worse than a N4, right?!
So here are my questions:
Does anyone have experience with a rooted S4 on a custom rom and does it work and feel as smooth as a N4? (I know, maybe it's better to ask this in a S4 forum, but still)
And what would you recommend me based on the story above and your own opinion? Please, don't give answers like 'you say you love Nexus line and rooting, then it's better for you to stay with the N4, but give me another reason to choose better option. You could also think like I never used a N4 and S4 before but I'm still using my rooted S2, what would you recommend me then...
Besides that, the chance is very very big that I will buy the next Nexus
Thanks!
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Look, for me was the price issue. your getting it free (so go for it). You can also convert it to a S4 google edition, here are a few of the links:
http://lifehacker.com/install-google-edition-roms-on-skinned-htc-ones-and-cer-732590116
http://www.technobuffalo.com/videos/how-to-turn-a-galaxy-s4-into-a-google-edition-phone/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-make-android-phone-google-edition/
My question to you is, why would you want to get all the features out of the S4 so you can have 4.3 google version only?
If you need more space, more camera, more power and a bigger screen, well S4 is way to go, and for you is the best way to go, your getting it for FREE.
I'm a nexus owner and former galaxy nexus owner, and I will never trade my newest nexus for any other phone, but maybe that's just me.
Hope this can hep you out!!!
Get yourself N4
It's super AOSP optimized, has great support and it's generally awesome
I hate the S4's appearance and buttons, but the hardware is there. Tough choice, especially with no official word on the new Nexus. I'd get the S4 and flash the Google edition ROM.
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S4 has a better camera and display. If you must, get a Google edition S4.
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Yes, I the S4 has better display and better camera. The screen is the best reason I can think of to take the S4.
But like I said, I work in a phone shop and I won this S4 and I don't get to choose between the normal and Google edition. Besides that, I saw that I can easily install the Google Edition rom on my S4 after I rooted it.
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Get the s4. Sell it. Use the cash to buy the new nexus (nexus 5 or whatever).
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That was my first intention to do, sell it and wait till the new Nexus comes out and but it. But now I am thinking about using the S4 till the new Nexus comes out. The new Nexus is going to be my new phone after it comes out, no doubt about it.
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flash the google edition rom on your free s4 (I'm very very jealous) and you will (basiccally) have a nexus like device... however I'm not 100% sure it's possible
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Haha I understand you're jealous, I would also be I quickly checked the I9505 forums and yes, I saw a couple of custom roms are available for it. So yes, that is also something that I consider.
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Look, for me was the price issue. your getting it free (so go for it). You can also convert it to a S4 google edition, here are a few of the links:
http://lifehacker.com/install-google-edition-roms-on-skinned-htc-ones-and-cer-732590116
http://www.technobuffalo.com/videos/how-to-turn-a-galaxy-s4-into-a-google-edition-phone/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-make-android-phone-google-edition/
My question to you is, why would you want to get all the features out of the S4 so you can have 4.3 google version only?
If you need more space, more camera, more power and a bigger screen, well S4 is way to go, and for you is the best way to go, your getting it for FREE.
I'm a nexus owner and former galaxy nexus owner, and I will never trade my newest nexus for any other phone, but maybe that's just me.
Hope this can hep you out!!!
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Thank you for the links! I like the fact that Google brought out Google Editions of top phones like S4 and HTC ONE.
Do you mean that you bought the N4 because of the price issue? If it was same price, you would buy the S4? I would also, but the root scene behind the N4 is bigger, you know..
Look, I like the fact that everything that has to do with root, is available for the N4. So IF I get an S4, I surely will root and would like to use AOSP stuff and custom roms, but also some mods that need root.
I don't need more space, but the bigger/better screen and camera are a plus.
I also said after I got my N4 that I would never use or buy another phone than a Nexus, but getting the S4 for free changed my mind..
maxio1998 said:
Get yourself N4
It's super AOSP optimized, has great support and it's generally awesome
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Yes, I know mate, I already own the Nexus for 10 months now it's awesome.
I just got a Nexus 4 1 week ago and I'm loving it so far. Comparing to to my sisters S4, my modded Nexus is so much better (PA 3.99 + Franco r178 + Hospital's Color Profile). By activating Pie and enabling full screen, there so little difference to the screen size of the Nexus and s4. Actually, my Nexus 4 seems to have better screen colors than the stock S4 (thanks to the color profile).
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I hate the S4's appearance and buttons, but the hardware is there. Tough choice, especially with no official word on the new Nexus. I'd get the S4 and flash the Google edition ROM.
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Exacly my thoughts. I don't hate it appearance and the buttons, but I like the the appearance of the N4. The hardware is undoubtly better.
Well, if the new Nexus comes out, I will sell my N4 or S4 and get it as soon as I can
Yeah, though decision it is. I am very curious about an S4 running on stock android actually. But if I test it on my new S4, and try to sell it afterwards, the price will be lower, because it isn't sealed anymore.
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I just got a Nexus 4 1 week ago and I'm loving it so far. Comparing to to my sisters S4, my modded Nexus is so much better (PA 3.99 + Franco r178 + Hospital's Color Profile). By activating Pie and enabling full screen, there so little difference to the screen size of the Nexus and s4. Actually, my Nexus 4 seems to have better screen colors than the stock S4 (thanks to the color profile).
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Thanks for the information! N4 is amazing expecially on PA with Franco. But I haven't heard about that Hospital's color profile thing, I will check it out.
But if I get the S4, I will surely root it and get a custom rom on it. I expect the S4 to outclass the N4 when they are both running on a custom rom/kernel, correct me if I'm wrong...
As a former S4 owner i can tell you that softwarewise the S4 is a total failure. It lags, stutters and opening apps and widgets takes way too long. This is soley caused by the poorly optimized software. The N4 on paper seems way less but in real life it feels much more fluid and lags are very very rare.
But that said the screen (not in direct sunlight), speaker and camera of the S4 are better.
The N4 and XDA support is a win win!
in my opinion N4 is better than S4 in performance. N4 has quad core processor and S4 has Octa core (8) processor. According to my speed tests S4 should have more benchmark score than it gets..like n4 gets about 20 to 22 thousand without overclocking in antutu benchmarks but s4 gets only 27 thousand being an octa core. It is very less for 8 core processor at least it should touch 35 to 40 thousand score without overclock.....So this directly indicates that n4 performance is better than s4...and in any way s4 is laest so it will have good screen and camera..but n4 is also awsome...I would recommend to stay with n4 and wait for n5......now its up to you...i think samsung is just a ****...making customers fools.....Thanks if helped....
Del both and get the lg g2, the first droolworthy non nexus android in ages!
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in my opinion N4 is better than S4 in performance. N4 has quad core processor and S4 has Octa core (8) processor. According to my speed tests S4 should have more benchmark score than it gets..like n4 gets about 20 to 22 thousand without overclocking in antutu benchmarks but s4 gets only 27 thousand being an octa core. It is very less for 8 core processor at least it should touch 35 to 40 thousand score without overclock.....So this directly indicates that n4 performance is better than s4...and in any way s4 is laest so it will have good screen and camera..but n4 is also awsome...I would recommend to stay with n4 and wait for n5......now its up to you...i think samsung is just a ****...making customers fools.....Thanks if helped....
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Lol , FACEPALM !
The octa core does not mean all 8 cores are active. It's a combination of 4 A15 cores, and 4 low powered A7 cores, a BiG.little architecture.
And 2nd thing, don't rely on benchmarks as a real life performance measure, nexus devices are never good in that field, yet they offer the best user experience (my opinion).
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Honestly, get the s4 and sell it right away. Don't even open the box. Use the money to get the n5 in fall. I see u value community support a lot, so this would be ur number one option. Samsung's support is just crap. Even a Google edition cannot be compared to pure aosp experience of the nexus and is definitely NOT the same! A lot of sources are still closed at Samsung.
Don't forget ur loss of warranty either, once u unlock the bootloader. U need crap like triangle away, a usb dongle or so on to reset the Samsung counter. If ur screen brakes u might be screwed in case of RMA. With a nexus u just lock the bootloader and u r done!
Also, many people are running around with a Samsung device. A nexus is just rare and far more special
Hope I could help!
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Get the s4. Sell it. Use the cash to buy the new nexus (nexus 5 or whatever).
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Ding ding ding we have a winner thats what I would do, but buy the nexus 4 and pocket some money. Sell your nexus you already have. The s4 is nice and I wanted it but the phone gets returned a lot at my job. Its sold the most but returned at a higher rate. I wont lie and say the s4 didnt cross my mind but the price is crazy to me. I keep phones maybe 6 months. Also keep in mind that the screen on the s4 gets micro cracks and is known for that. Known to break randomly. Didn't know till a customer told me about it. Happened to a friend of his.
http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/Android/thread-id/19121
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I would say sell the gs4, they retail for up to 800$ on eBay and with that money you can buy a nexus 5 and have money left over
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but buy the nexus 4 and pocket some money. Sell your nexus you already have.
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Why would he want to do that? As far as I understood, he already owns a n4. Why should he buy another n4 and sell the old one? I'd prefer banking the money he'd make selling the s4 and wait for the n5 or whatever it'll be called.
However, I fully agree to the rest of your post!
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Should I trade my nexus 5 for g2?

Ok I've been debating this for a while talked to a couple people and asked in the nexus 5 threads. Just so I get a complete view id like to ask here as well. I have a 16 GB white nexus 5 in prefect condition and there a 32 GB lg g2 in perfect condition on craigslist that someone wants to trade for nexus 5. The problem is it's at&t but unlocked. Does that matter? Is it exactly the same on the inside as the T-Mobile version? It seems all at&t phones are worth less for some reason. Theyre always cheaper on places like eBay and craigslist. Is there any difference besides the logo? Also what are you guy's opinions on this? I contacted the person and it seems legit and they want to meet in public place so it's safe. Also the lg g2 has bigger battery, and slightly bigger screen and size isnt too different. I'm not worried about updates because of custom ROMs and I'm sure the g2 will get KitKat and at least one more version officially.
Please give me your opinions especially people who have both devices. Oh yeah and also which feels better build and how is g2 without a case? Is it fragile? Or is it solid and can survive falls? I'll probably use a case but would like to know. Thanks and maybe I'll be seeing you guys more later on if I decide to trade
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i came from a note 3 to the g2. it has been perfect in every aspect for me including size and by far the most amazing battery life i've ever gotten on any phone. I too arent worried about updates because i only use aosp custom roms. The g2 is a fingerprint magnet so im not gonna lie about that and i wont know how it'll do in a fall but it seems pretty durable and should withstand a fall lets say from 3 feet or less.You wont be dissapointed at all. Hope i answered some of your questions
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i came from a note 3 to the g2. it has been perfect in every aspect for me including size and by far the most amazing battery life i've ever gotten on any phone. I too arent worried about updates because i only use aosp custom roms. The g2 is a fingerprint magnet so im not gonna lie about that and i wont know how it'll do in a fall but it seems pretty durable and should withstand a fall lets say from 3 feet or less.You wont be dissapointed at all. Hope i answered some of your questions
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Alright thanks hoping to hear from a couple others as well. Do you think aosp ROMs will be around for it up to date for at least 2 more years? (I think it will but not sure as I haven't seen how active this section is). Also do you have att or T-Mobile version or any other? And what company do you use. My dad told me using an att phone on T-Mobile makes the data not work as well but I thought they were the same phone so I don't know if that makes sense. Thanks for the answer though. If you like it better than note 3 I'm sure I'll like it.
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Alright thanks hoping to hear from a couple others as well. Do you think aosp ROMs will be around for it up to date for at least 2 more years? (I think it will but not sure as I haven't seen how active this section is). Also do you have att or T-Mobile version or any other? And what company do you use. My dad told me using an att phone on T-Mobile makes the data not work as well but I thought they were the same phone so I don't know if that makes sense. Thanks for the answer though. If you like it better than note 3 I'm sure I'll like it.
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if battery is important to you then yes. No matter what the Nexus 5 fan boy will say or do, they will not beat that extra mAH, its like saying you can swim faster than michael phelps if you keep training for the rest of your life, genetics was built into him and thats what he was born to do.
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if battery is important to you then yes. No matter what the Nexus 5 fan boy will say or do, they will not beat that extra mAH, its like saying you can swim faster than michael phelps if you keep training for the rest of your life, genetics was built into him and thats what he was born to do.
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Alright thanks battery is a big part but not major. I would like a bigger battery but it's not really needed. But the bigger battery, camera, and slightly bigger screen together are convincing.
But does anyone know about the T-Mobile/at&t "issue" I described? If that's not an actual problem then I think I'll trade.
Also do you guys think this is legit? It seems a little too good doesn't it? Especially since the other phone is 32 GB while mine is 16 GB. They claim there is no issues and it's in perfect condition. Are there any specific things I should look for because they said I could try it out and make sure everything is working.
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its hard to predict how the developer support will be 2 years...
when you look for newest android stay with n5.
first i think the g2 is even more value (overall it feels more like an 600€+ phone) for the dollar euro than the n5. i got mine for 379€, the N5 would be 349€ and 399€ in stores here.
i absolutly love the tiny bezel. the screen just pops right out. compared to its display size, the device is relativ small and can be operated with one hand.
yes it is an fingerprint magnet. iam thinking of getting protection just because of that fact. until now i have kept it naked and even dropped it twice. i got lucky and it didnt land on the screen. but it did skid face first on the bathroom floor: got lucky, no scrachtes.
batterylife is really, really good. i also kinda like the lg stock rom. after optimization and heavy debloating and some mods to the notification bar and other xposed goodies i can resist flashing aosp. with the samsung device it was aosp day one always.
the ois camera, 24hz 192kbits audio playback and hardwarebutton on the back sets the phone apart from other phones. knockon/off also is a really nice feature i dont want to miss ever again.
after some getting used to the camera and the ips screen (came from amoled) it is a keeper for me. at least until the end of this year:good:
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its hard to predict how the developer support will be 2 years...
when you look for newest android stay with n5.
first i think the g2 is even more value (overall it feels more like an 600€+ phone) for the dollar euro than the n5. i got mine for 379€, the N5 would be 349€ and 399€ in stores here.
i absolutly love the tiny bezel. the screen just pops right out. compared to its display size, the device is relativ small and can be operated with one hand.
yes it is an fingerprint magnet. iam thinking of getting protection just because of that fact. until now i have kept it naked and even dropped it twice. i got lucky and it didnt land on the screen. but it did skid face first on the bathroom floor: got lucky, no scrachtes.
batterylife is really, really good. i also kinda like the lg stock rom. after optimization and heavy debloating and some mods to the notification bar and other xposed goodies i can resist flashing aosp. with the samsung device it was aosp day one always.
the ois camera, 24hz 192kbits audio playback and hardwarebutton on the back sets the phone apart from other phones. knockon/off also is a really nice feature i dont want to miss ever again.
after some getting used to the camera and the ips screen (came from amoled) it is a keeper for me. at least until the end of this year:good:
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Thanks a lot. Yeah android version isn't too much of an issue. As long as theres at least one ROM with latest version like pa or cm or omni or slim. Any of those are great and hopefully they will support for a long time.
Now if anyone knows anything about at/tmobile "issues" I mentioned please tell me. Sorry for asking so much but that's really the main thing holding me back so far.
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If what I was saying didn't make sense about the issues I meant data compatibility. This explains it a little better. That's what I'm worried about because I use lycamobile which runs on T-Mobile towers. So will this issue be there if I get the at&t lg g2? https://t-mobile.jive-mobile.com/#jive-discussion?content=/api/core/v2/discussions/37961
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Sorry for so many questions but also do any of the ROMs work on any phone version as long as the same radio? Like will all gsm ROMs work on all gsm phones so T-Mobile and att roms all work changeably?
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Sorry for so many questions but also do any of the ROMs work on any phone version as long as the same radio? Like will all gsm ROMs work on all gsm phones so T-Mobile and att roms all work changeably?
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Ok I got this one answered by looking in development thread and noticing that most ROMs show d800/801/etc so most support all versions
Now last question is the compatibility for data
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Can't speak on the rom/flashing aspect since I don't care about that stuff anymore...And while I do miss the build of the N5 (I dunno it just feels nice to hold) the G2 is soooo much better in obvious ways such as display and battery life. Battery life alone is the greatest reason to switch and was the reason I did so. There are also other reasons for the switch that you can read about or you may already know about...The built in remote control is nice to have and can help alleviate boredom if you're somewhere else
Ok thanks. I know the g2 is better in most ways but soft ware. The thing I need confirmation on is if anyone using an unlocked att d801 g2 with other companies like tmobile has data fully working. I heard it has issues sometimes. Or does it work alright as long as apns are correct?
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Ok thanks. I know the g2 is better in most ways but soft ware. The thing I need confirmation on is if anyone using an unlocked att d801 g2 with other companies like tmobile has data fully working. I heard it has issues sometimes. Or does it work alright as long as apns are correct?
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flash it and try, if it doesnt work then sell it lol Technically it would work just need that kernel I think.
@up it's unlocked it doesn't need to be flashed. Anyways I checked the lycamobile site and they said it should work fine
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@up it's unlocked it doesn't need to be flashed. Anyways I checked the lycamobile site and they said it should work fine
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I sold my nexus 5, had dings all over the edges from dropping for 380, and bought a brand new lg g2 for 350 lol, best thing ive ever done, the screen on the phone is amazing compared to the n5! i would say do it im loving it! i flashed paranoid and never looked back.
oh yea and the battery life is way better.
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I sold my nexus 5, had dings all over the edges from dropping for 380, and bought a brand new lg g2 for 350 lol, best thing ive ever done, the screen on the phone is amazing compared to the n5! i would say do it im loving it! i flashed paranoid and never looked back.
oh yea and the battery life is way better.
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Thanks I think I'm going to. I might trade but there's lots of brand new ones for 300-350. Where did you sell yours? Mine is in perfect condition because of the case and screen protector since first day and I'll be seelling those with it so I'd hope to get at least 350 (I have the 16 GB)
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Thanks I think I'm going to. I might trade but there's lots of brand new ones for 300-350. Where did you sell yours? Mine is in perfect condition because of the case and screen protector since first day and I'll be seelling those with it so I'd hope to get at least 350 (I have the 16 GB)
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i sold mine on craigslist, here in the Seattle area, i had the 32gb model.
OK I've been convinced that I really want a g2 (maybe not right now). But I don't want to trade it. My nexus 5 is pretty amazing so I don't want to trade for a used phone. But if I can sell it for enough to buy a new g2 I'm going to. I'll have to tell the guy that I'm not going to trade. I feel kind of bad because he was pretty nice and waited for me to decide. But the phone doesn't come with all original stuff and I don't really feel confident in a phone used by someone else no matter how well I test it. I got the nexus 5 brand new and after a small RMA annoyance I got a fully working perfect one. So if I have a chance to get a new one I'll hopefully get it.
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I was searching eBay for lg g2s to see what a good price to sell my nexus 5 is if I want to get one. I noticed sprint versions were cheaper even unlocked. Would unlocked sprint work with T-Mobile?
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Well I'm meeting today to see if we're making the trade. I hope it's good.
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I love this phone!

I have been using the Nexus 6 for a couple of days now and I absolutely love this device. It's the only phone I like that is out now, it's incredible to me how ****ty the phone market is atm. I haven't been that excited to use a device since the Note 7 came out. I got the Nexus 6 used, and now I am even gonna get a brand new one. I could probably rock it for another year until they kill the security patches (so I've heard)
I can't believe I slept on this phone for sooooooo long!!! And to think of all the **** I was using in between, Sony, LG, HTC a few Sammys etc.
I wish the Pixel would've been more similar to the Nexus line. I just realized the potential this line had. Tragic....
Anyone of you totally enamored with this phone as well? Any accessories you can recommend? Any tips and tricks?
In case you want root access etc.
I use a prerooted lite stock rom.
Recently updated to Nougat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59561445/
Cool. I'll definitely check that out!
Ordered Refurb Nexus 6's for the Mrs & I. IMO the best alternative to the Note 7 until something better comes out from Samsung.
Yes the pixel should have been dual speaker and wireless charging standard, especially with those huge bezels. I have no idea when Google will get there head out of there arsesw
I've had my Nexus 6 for almost a year and I absolutely love it also. I would recommend a nice case and a screen protector. Look around for what works for you because at one point I ended up buying around 10 cases and I finally settled on one specific case , https://www.amazon.com/SUPCASE-Google-Unicorn-Premium-Motorola/dp/B00OHFGUDU/ref=sr_1_4?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1477423081&sr=1-4&keywords=nexus+6+case
Its a nice case with good grips on the side. Not badly priced and will take quite a few drops/falls. Skinomi is a good option for a screen protector. I definitely agree with what you previously said. I went with the 64gb version as previously with my Nexus 5 I had the 32gb option and I found I was using most if not at least half of the 32gb at any given time. But regardless of what storage option you chose this is a solid device overall
I am still in love with this phone. I've had it for 2 years now and have no desire to upgrade. Its a pleasure to use. Loud a** speakers , great battery life & it's fluidity. Add it's open nature, this phone is a beast.
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I have been using the Nexus 6 for a couple of days now and I absolutely love this device. It's the only phone I like that is out now, it's incredible to me how ****ty the phone market is atm. I haven't been that excited to use a device since the Note 7 came out. I got the Nexus 6 used, and now I am even gonna get a brand new one. I could probably rock it for another year until they kill the security patches (so I've heard)
I can't believe I slept on this phone for sooooooo long!!! And to think of all the **** I was using in between, Sony, LG, HTC a few Sammys etc.
I wish the Pixel would've been more similar to the Nexus line. I just realized the potential this line had. Tragic....
Anyone of you totally enamored with this phone as well? Any accessories you can recommend? Any tips and tricks?
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What is meant by "I could probably rock it for another year until they kill the security patches"? I'm wanting to buy a Nexus 6, but not if I can only use it for a year.
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What is meant by "I could probably rock it for another year until they kill the security patches"? I'm wanting to buy a Nexus 6, but not if I can only use it for a year.
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You can still use the phone for however long you wish Google just stops providing further security updates. 2 years guaranteed whatever happens after that is a plus, Oct 14 is when Nexus 6 was released
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You can still use the phone for however long you wish Google just stops providing further security updates. 2 years guaranteed whatever happens after that is a plus, Oct 14 is when Nexus 6 was released
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Sounds good, thanks for the reply.

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