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Nexus S kills the batteries

Hello
My friend have a Nexus S (9020A) the problem is when the battery dies it's impossible to charge the phone, it won't turn on! I have tried with a lot of batteries now and it kills all of them! it works like normal when you don't let the battery die completely but it should not do this anyway, what is wrong?

I think I know what your talking about.
The phone consumes more power than it receives when its using data. Do if your at 5% and charging, but also using the internet. You will last for mere minutes.
Best thing to do is to simply let it charge and not touch it when its doing so. You can still hotspot,text talk. But streaming music, data apps (like tapatalk or skype) and web browser WILL KILL YOUR BATTERY WHILE YOU CHARGE.
But if your saying it won't charge. Sorry. No idea
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Shark_On_Land said:
I think I know what your talking about.
The phone consumes more power than it receives when its using data. Do if your at 5% and charging, but also using the internet. You will last for mere minutes.
Best thing to do is to simply let it charge and not touch it when its doing so. You can still hotspot,text talk. But streaming music, data apps (like tapatalk or skype) and web browser WILL KILL YOUR BATTERY WHILE YOU CHARGE.
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What? That's just nonsense.

If you turn the phone off and then try to charge it with the battery in, you're not able to charge it?

gsvnet said:
If you turn the phone off and then try to charge it with the battery in, you're not able to charge it?
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no, the phone kills the batteries, I would have test the batteries on other phone if I had, but atm I just have the Nexus S, it won't let me charge the batteries when they are dead.. if there is 1% left I can charge but when it dies it's dead forever... there must be something wrong with the phone, right?

Try wiping battery stats?

Harbb said:
Try wiping battery stats?
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don't work.. when battery have some % left the phone works like normal... but if I let it die, then it's dead.. I can't even turn on the phone, it's like there is no battery inserted.

The phone should shut down automatically when the voltage reaches a certain threshold. Is the phone not doing this? These batteries are not meant to drop below a certain voltage and doing so could damage them.
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Wait, does this mean I have to turn my wifi and data off whenever I'm charging my phone? Bulls right there...
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Rem3Dy said:
The phone should shut down automatically when the voltage reaches a certain threshold. Is the phone not doing this? These batteries are not meant to drop below a certain voltage and doing so could damage them.
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This ^^
Are you running a modded rom/kernel/calibration tool that let your battery go below the min voltage threshold?

evcz said:
This ^^
Are you running a modded rom/kernel/calibration tool that let your battery go below the min voltage threshold?
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The phone have doing the same with all type of ROMS, CM7, Stock Google Gingerbread and now ICS.
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kyokeun1234 said:
Wait, does this mean I have to turn my wifi and data off whenever I'm charging my phone? Bulls right there...
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No, just go ahead and ignore anything Shark_On_Land posts - he's a slightly slow middle-schooler who claims to be a "developer".
Snt frm my Nxs S 4G sng xd prm

[email protected] said:
The phone have doing the same with all type of ROMS, CM7, StockvGoogle Gingerbread and now ICS.
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so does it auto shutdown or not?
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Rem3Dy said:
so does it auto shutdown or not?
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yes I mean when battery dies all phones shutdown or have I missed something? problem is I can't charge the battery when that happens.

Shark_On_Land said:
I think I know what your talking about.
The phone consumes more power than it receives when its using data. Do if your at 5% and charging, but also using the internet. You will last for mere minutes.
Best thing to do is to simply let it charge and not touch it when its doing so. You can still hotspot,text talk. But streaming music, data apps (like tapatalk or skype) and web browser WILL KILL YOUR BATTERY WHILE YOU CHARGE.
But if your saying it won't charge. Sorry. No idea
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This is so insanely inaccurate. Using the hotspot is one of the most battery intensive operations the phone can carry out. Streaming music, Skype, and browsing don't even hold a candle to it. The only thing that comes close would be navigation (and that can be even worse sometimes), followed by talking on the phone by a pretty decent, but not massive margin. It also depends on the charger. Where do you get your information?
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if the phone is doing the same with all type of ROMS, then it may be hardware related issue.
I have been running various Roms since the start but never faced this issue. A lot of times battery has drained fully. With some of the new roms that are there my phone lasts more than a day with Data on Roaming full time.

I know most phone batteries will not be chargeable if you deplete them completely. Usually this happens by throwin it in the drawer and not using it for a long time but ive never heard of it happening just by using the phone. Id say its definitely a hardware issue

Bradart said:
This is so insanely inaccurate. Using the hotspot is one of the most battery intensive operations the phone can carry out. Streaming music, Skype, and browsing don't even hold a candle to it. The only thing that comes close would be navigation (and that can be even worse sometimes), followed by talking on the phone by a pretty decent, but not massive margin. It also depends on the charger. Where do you get your information?
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Trial & error
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Shark_On_Land said:
Trial & error
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A lot of error in your case...

[REQUEST] app or tweak notification if charging is full

is there an app or tweak if charging is full, there is notification led or sound?
let me know if you find it..
thanks

anyone help

Your request reminds me of this app, NoMoarPowah by chainfire
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.nomoarpowah
It's not exactly notification when fully charged. What it does is replacing the battery indicator when you're charging with the phone off.
You can set whether to switch on the phone when reach 15% or 100% or specific time or according to your alarm (so your phone is on to trigger the alarm).
I don't think it works on ns, it requires some sort of samsung library file.
Might be useful if you have other samsung devices.

gleenfield97 said:
Your request reminds me of this app, NoMoarPowah by chainfire
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.nomoarpowah
It's not exactly notification when fully charged. What it does is replacing the battery indicator when you're charging with the phone off.
You can set whether to switch on the phone when reach 15% or 100% or specific time or according to your alarm (so your phone is on to trigger the alarm).
I don't think it works on ns, it requires some sort of samsung library file.
Might be useful if you have other samsung devices.
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Yes it's samsung device only..
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gleenfield97 said:
Your request reminds me of this app, NoMoarPowah by chainfire
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.nomoarpowah
It's not exactly notification when fully charged. What it does is replacing the battery indicator when you're charging with the phone off.
You can set whether to switch on the phone when reach 15% or 100% or specific time or according to your alarm (so your phone is on to trigger the alarm).
I don't think it works on ns, it requires some sort of samsung library file.
Might be useful if you have other samsung devices.
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Is this working on our nexus s?
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jojoost said:
Is this working on our nexus s?
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I don't think so...but if you wanna try, just go on..and then report to this thread
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Badass battery monitor apparently can notify on full charge but I've never used the notification. I'm sure other battery monitor apps may do so as well.
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Battery Monitor Widget and the pro version

Battery om nom nom nom om

Anyone else noticing that the battery percentage goes down incredibly fast when screen is on ?
I've never ever seen a phone go down so fast and I've had the note
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i've actually been pleasantly surprised at the battery life on mine! Over two hours of screen time midway through my day yesterday and i was just above 60%

Have been advised to turn cell broadcast off
Supposed to save a bit if battery.
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My advice, get Tasker to disable mobile data and WiFi when screen is off. Disable Google Now. Disable NFC. Disable GPS until you actually use it. Enjoy your 5+ hour screen on battery life.

Alexander DeLarge said:
My advice, get Tasker to disable mobile data and WiFi when screen is off. Disable Google Now. Disable NFC. Disable GPS until you actually use it. Enjoy your 5+ hour screen on battery life.
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What good then would your phone be if no data or wifi...

Foukos said:
What good then would your phone be if no data or wifi...
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exactly my thinking.
Why the hell does the Nexus consume soooo much battery ? I have turned most of the stuff off but you dont get any Google Now, emails etc dont work correctly, - totally useless.
My S2 is better than this.

cirian75 said:
Anyone else noticing that the battery percentage goes down incredibly fast when screen is on ?
I've never ever seen a phone go down so fast and I've had the note
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+1
I've literally watched the battery tick down every 2-3 minutes right before my very eyes doing absolutely nothing. Just had the screen on. SMH
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I really want this phone at 3pm today but is the battery THAT bad? I thought they learned from the Galaxy Nexus.

AlleN7 said:
I really want this phone at 3pm today but is the battery THAT bad? I thought they learned from the Galaxy Nexus.
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yeah its worse than my Galaxy S2. - battery stats say its the screen but that's on auto and its already dim as hell. When off it consumes power if WiFi is on.

cirian75 said:
Anyone else noticing that the battery percentage goes down incredibly fast when screen is on ?
I've never ever seen a phone go down so fast and I've had the note
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Hold up... So you're saying... Having the screen on... Which uses more battery than screen off drains the battery? :what:
My current ROM kernel combo is battery efficient
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FallN said:
+1
I've literally watched the battery tick down every 2-3 minutes right before my very eyes doing absolutely nothing. Just had the screen on. SMH
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And? Most people don't seem to get this: Say your battery depletes 1% for every 3 minutes you have the screen on, that's 300 minutes, or 5 hours, of screen time. Which is more than acceptable.

TheFiveDots said:
And? Most people don't seem to get this: Say your battery depletes 1% for every 3 minutes you have the screen on, that's 300 minutes, or 5 hours, of screen time. Which is more than acceptable.
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That's what I'm saying
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Battery great over here
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lonz358 said:
Battery great over here
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Yeah def better than the gnex which was rather good too. I took my phone off of charge @ 7:20am and put it on charge when it had 4% left @ 1:30am. So pretty much lasted 18 hours with medium use.

cirian75 said:
Anyone else noticing that the battery percentage goes down incredibly fast when screen is on ?
I've never ever seen a phone go down so fast and I've had the note
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The Note is an extremely ****ty device to compare to. The battery it has is much larger than ours.
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cirian75 said:
Have been advised to turn cell broadcast off
Supposed to save a bit if battery.
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What do you mean cell broadcast? Where is that?

my N4 is 1% per minute screen on
2% streaming video, that right, 40 minute netflix = 80% battery gone
NFC and cell broadcast off, gps off, screen at 50% brightness

Like a fool i sold my iPhone 5 and got the nexus 4 only to be having this issue FML
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[Q] 2 question about usage..

Hi my first question is :
- Is Lightflow app consume battery ? (i want to make that the led blink faster for Whatsapp and Stock SMS app but they don't have this option so i have to instal a third app that manage my LED)
And the second question is :
- What's better for battery .. 4 core usage at mininal clock ? (300mhz) or 2 core usage at medium clock (700mhz) ?

It depends on how often you get a notification but on average light flow takes around 5 percent of my battery
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5% of battery? Sounds like there is something wrong there.
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steviewevie said:
5% of battery? Sounds like there is something wrong there.
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No kidding. I think you'd need to host a rave using the led light to see 5% battery usage.
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El Daddy said:
No kidding. I think you'd need to host a rave using the led light to see 5% battery usage.
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I may be wrong here but I think 5% is possible.
He's not saying the LED light takes 5%, that'll be crazy.
He's saying the app is taking 5%, which might be possible.

Yes the app not the led I actually just installed the app again I'll take a screen shot tomorrow
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Thanks ! and what about my second question ?

tlf55 said:
Hi my first question is :
- Is Lightflow app consume battery ? (i want to make that the led blink faster for Whatsapp and Stock SMS app but they don't have this option so i have to instal a third app that manage my LED)
And the second question is :
- What's better for battery .. 4 core usage at mininal clock ? (300mhz) or 2 core usage at medium clock (700mhz) ?
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As for the second can't be sure which would be better, you want to limit the amount times you charge your phone. That is the best way to preserve batteries. However I would keep all four cores going at the 350 mhz min. To me its like getting a v8 and only using four cylinders when you stomp on the gas.
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tlf55 said:
Hi my first question is :
- Is Lightflow app consume battery ? (i want to make that the led blink faster for Whatsapp and Stock SMS app but they don't have this option so i have to instal a third app that manage my LED)
And the second question is :
- What's better for battery .. 4 core usage at mininal clock ? (300mhz) or 2 core usage at medium clock (700mhz) ?
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Light flow does consume battery...I would just use it and if it doesn't bother you as much than just stick with it.
I would go with 4 cores.
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Nexus 7 power spikes.

I'm not sure what's happening. My Nexus 7 remains idle most of the time, yet I get pretty bad battery drain and then when I check the battery history I see this. This happens during every battery drain.
Any ideas guys?

g.davis17 said:
I'm not sure what's happening. My Nexus 7 remains idle most of the time, yet I get pretty bad battery drain and then when I check the battery history I see this. This happens during every battery drain.
Any ideas guys?
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Wow, have never seen that on any device! Install Gsam or better battery stats if you are rooted to see what's going on. My best guess, it's a hardware issue.
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Woah... Is your tablet trying to go Super Saiyan?....

Also I'm completely stock and have never rooted it and the Android system usage was close to 70% of the battery usage.
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Looks exactly like mine !

g.davis17 said:
Also I'm completely stock and have never rooted it and the Android system usage was close to 70% of the battery usage.
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Have you already tried reformatting? Kind of a pain, but that's the only thing I can think of.

Try contacting Google or the seller they might give you a replacement.
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That happened to me once or twice. These spikes are only visible on the battery graph in settings app. I use an alternative battery monitor app from Google play and it does not show any spikes. Also battery life seems pretty in line with what other people report. I simply ignore them since they do not seem to affect battery life.
Could it be caused by the wireless charging functionality being triggered by other electronic devices in house?

I saw the same problem in the G+ community there, but it's Gelexy Nexus which updated to Android 4.3 recently
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/StjSPYyRwtNHMBDli224-BiHIgMBpJ53YOMAKLIutHw=w498-h885-no

bandit_knight said:
That happened to me once or twice. These spikes are only visible on the battery graph in settings app. I use an alternative battery monitor app from Google play and it does not show any spikes. Also battery life seems pretty in line with what other people report. I simply ignore them since they do not seem to affect battery life.
Could it be caused by the wireless charging functionality being triggered by other electronic devices in house?
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Yes, but the screen shot shows 2 days of battery , and he don't use the tablet
If I have a Light use I have battery to 4 Or 5 days...
I advise you to factory reset with the battery charged
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I'll try doing a factory reset I suppose and see if that cures this. I'll keep everyone updated.
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g.davis17 said:
I'll try doing a factory reset I suppose and see if that cures this. I'll keep everyone updated.
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ppdebie said:
Seems more likely to me then the battery actually spiking it's voltage. That'd be potentially more serious...
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Hey everyone,
My Nexus 7 (2013) is having the same problem with battery graph. There are about 2-3 spikes to 100% in every discharge cycle.
I noticed this problem has been reported in different cycles, but no one seems to be able to give a definite answer of what the source of this problem is.
BTW, after a reset to factory settings, the problem still persists.
ANY idea why this is happening???

g.davis17 said:
I'm not sure what's happening. My Nexus 7 remains idle most of the time, yet I get pretty bad battery drain and then when I check the battery history I see this. This happens during every battery drain.
Any ideas guys?
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SEARCH 1st b4 posting!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381550

henklbr said:
SEARCH 1st b4 posting!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381550
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You just keep referring to that forum without actually answering my question, even on that forum