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Skype, battery and Nexus 4

I'm next to skype..yeah i know..but just never had a device that supported it or need for it until my nexus 4.
Now that I've installed it, it seems to be 'on' all the time. Is this going to kill my battery? Should I kill it with a task manager except when using it? Leave it in 'offline' mode?
What are other people noticing with regards to skype and battery life? I've done some quick googling which leads me to believe it might be a battery hog.
If so i'm killing it..i don't need it that bad but would like to play with it if its not going to drain the battery when running all the time in the background.

Theres a sign out button... Sign out when you don't need it!
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Do not leave your Skype app running.
Skype app will drain your battery super fast.
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doh yep..i see it now. 'sign out'. thanks

GTalk and battery?

Curious, does GTalk consume a lot of RAM and does it have a great deal on battery? I want to leave it on so my daughter can IM me with her tablet when she's at her mom's. And great that it has video.. Haven't used gtalk in a long time. Thank you. I don't see it running in the battery history though... :/
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I've used it on android for years and never felt like it had an adverse effect on battery life. Go for it.
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What about ram? I know we have a lot on this phone but still want to know.. It runs in the background right?
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Na, it doesn't take up much RAM. And yea, it does run in the background but it goes into Push mode after a while

No
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Gtalk is very good on battery. Until you do a video call.
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Ok, thanks guys.

Personally, I freeze Google Talk using titanium backup (you can disable it natively in apps on settings menu) because I don't use it. But since you have a usage for it, I don't think it uses a lot of ram. You have more than enough RAM so i wouldn't worry about it.
One thing definitely to do is to disable Google Latitude if you haven't already (it's in Maps and is on by default to report your location automatically). If they helped, press the thanks button

I dont use several Google services, and I freeze them without any problems.. Since sometimes they drain battery
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Massive battery issues

Hello folks.
I'm currently on Aokp 4.2.2 unofficial with Francos r90 Kernel, bootloader and Radio are both updated. I'm suffering from massive battery draining. I guess something isnt letting my CPU sleep properly, as i always get messages like "100% awake while screen off" from battery stats plus. I'm just getting up to 2 hours screen on time, and battery is falling by about ~7% / hour With normal usage (whatsapp, News, xda) and like 15 Minuten screen on time in that hour. Also, see the attached Images. I sometimes have wakelocks by audioOut_2 and as you can See, maps is using more battery than the Display itself.
On an additional Note, GPS is always off, im using Taster to locate, but with cell near only.
Would be very Kind to help me out of this issues, thank you a bunch!
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Turn off Location Services for a little bit to see if that helps.

You should try a program like autostarts, and don't allow things to run unless explicitly started by yourself. This way it'll help identify if there is an misbehaving program.
I saw you were using franco r90 which could be an issue. Try going back to the last stable

I think you will like this application.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5vYXNpc2ZlbmcuZ3JlZW5pZnkiXQ..
This simple application will make your annoying applications to go to sleep. Therefore your phone can finally go to sleep like it should when it's not in use. I see that Google maps seems to be the culprit in your battery drain. You can use titanium backup and delete it and install it back again from the play store. After that you can use the application that I've given you and force it to go tot sleep.
Here's the forum for the application:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737

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Thanks guys! I disabled some Autostarts and greenified some apps. I'll Report the outcomes later today.
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JoeBananas_ said:
Thanks guys! I disabled some Autostarts and greenified some apps. I'll Report the outcomes later today.
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If that doesn't work I recommend you flash the matr1x kernel I'm on it and I get very good life on this phone so yeah give it a try if u want
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Click it I dare you?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

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Thanks for your reply. Yeah im already thinking about flashing matr1x or trinity Kernels. How much screen on time Do you get with matr1x?
I reinstalled maps, greenified maps and facebook. Updated to Franco 92. Already getting better results with greenified maps, but i get following wakelocks:
"pm8921_eoc", "msm_otg" and AudioOut_2 and still notifications from bbs: 100% awake.
Apps running are: astrid, avast, Francos updater, Rom toolbox, Tasker
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Does anyone have some knowledge about How to identify why Android OS is consuming so much battery Life? While screen off some process is waking up the Device, up to 1.5 GHz.
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I also have MASSIVE draining issues. Took my phone off charge around 9am this morning... 1hr screen time... 8% battery left and its only 13:45 Pacific time...
Latest Faux running in dual core ECO MODE underclocked to 1.3Ghz with Stock 4.2.2,,,, still get ****ty ass battery life...

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Do you see any wakelocks using the better battery stats app? Which apps are running?
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JoeBananas_ said:
Do you see any wakelocks using the better battery stats app? Which apps are running?
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I just bought it ( for $3), sooo now I have to wait and see what is causing this....

stealthj said:
I just bought it ( for $3), sooo now I have to wait and see what is causing this....
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Cannot wait til you update us!
Coming from the iphone 4, good battery life is the most important thing i miss. I need a rock solid reliable phone or else would have started to mess around a read about Kernels to see how they may help with better battery life. My iPhone would last me 3-4 days of general use. To me General use is very light use..! With nexus it lasts max 1-2 days but more importantly i need to be concious what the battery level is. With th eiphone i never really bothered as i knoew i would get at least 2 days if not more.

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Still got audioOut_2 wakelock. Except that onr, everything is fine After Kernel update, greenifying and disabling Autostarts
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huge mediaserver/audioout_2 wakelock hogging battery life

Today i want to work and put the device in a drawer. never touched it during the whole shift but one phone call. during a five hour period 30% of the battery was wasted. bbs showed audioout_2 wakelock took place for 5 hours. screen time was 30 minutes. I haven't kept any screen shots from bbs but i did capture on system battery usage.
what could have caused it?
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I'm having the same issue here
, couldn't find the sollution yet..
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weird. ain't nobody here aware of this?
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op, perhaps a little enlightenment on your setup(rom/kernel) would yield helpful information from someone running similar setup
good luck
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op, perhaps a little enlightenment on your setup(rom/kernel) would yield helpful information from someone running similar setup
good luck
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STOCK EVERYTHING .
not even rooted or bootloader unlocked. An out of the box Nexus 4 16GB (301k),.

Perhaps there's a corrupted media file somewhere in the storage system.
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Perhaps there's a corrupted media file somewhere in the storage system.
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I have no media files on my storage, all my music is via GOOGLE PLAY.
(the wakelock is not caused by google play because since I booted the phone I have not listened to any music)

There seems to be a fix for the problem, haven`t used it myself though. Link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050252. Its a init.d script at boot and you need root.

I wish to avoid rooting my device. when I bought the nexus I wanted to have a vanilla Google experience.
Also I don't wanna void my warranty.

michel9501 said:
I wish to avoid rooting my device. when I bought the nexus I wanted to have a vanilla Google experience.
Also I don't wanna void my warranty.
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Not rooting a Nexus is like forbidding the Pope to pray But to each his own.

Yeah I know, I think I'll root if i hear reports that rooted devices can receive official google updates

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Yeah I know, I think I'll root if i hear reports that rooted devices can receive official google updates
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Look here for flashing OTA`s when rooted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848.

and what of the audio out 2 wakelock? I'm still getting high wakelock times because of it
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I remember one time, I left a game without closing the game. 5 hours later my battery dipped and I tried to figure out why. I realized that the game was still running in the background and drained a good 30% of my battery because of the mediaserver. I know it was still actice cuz when I hit recent it picked up exactly where I left off with no lag jumping back into it.
I'm guessing the game isn't coded to freeze in the background when you leave it. I could be wrong, but this is one possibility I think.
I'm on PA, with the matrix kernel. The game is called PAD in case anyone wants more info. I say, just be sure to exit games or generally certain apps when you finish playing them.
This only happened once and since then never again since I started closing that particular app correctly. Also, I don't mess with any music volume booster mods. Just get some noise isolating earbuds/headphones. The volume booster mods definitely killed battery much quicker than it was worth with my first nexus 4

I close everything and still got 1.5h of AudioOut_2 and AudioOut_3 wakelock overnight . 20% battery drain overnight. normally my battery drains 5-6% overnight.

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Maybe there is a corrupt file on your phone, it doesn't have to be music, could also be a ringtone or a video.

considering you don't want to root I would consider factory reset then reinstall 1 app at a time until you find the culprit. I know it's time consuming but it's either that or keep your charger handy
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Android OS wakelock draining battery

I've seen people here and there say they've seen this too, but no one seems to have an answer. My battery isn't lasting until work ENDS, a far cry from when I used to plug it in after work, at home, at 20-30%. It just randomly started happening.
Noticed this on both 4.2.2 and 4.3. I've tried .48 radio and .83, stock and PA, stock kernel and Franco, heard it's common on CM also.
Anyone actually know anything about this? I'd love to last an entire day not having to turn off sync when I'm not using my phone, and other battery salvaging methods.
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jphilippon said:
I've seen people here and there say they've seen this too, but no one seems to have an answer. My battery isn't lasting until work ENDS, a far cry from when I used to plug it in after work, at home, at 20-30%. It just randomly started happening.
Noticed this on both 4.2.2 and 4.3. I've tried .48 radio and .83, stock and PA, stock kernel and Franco, heard it's common on CM also.
Anyone actually know anything about this? I'd love to last an entire day not having to turn off sync when I'm not using my phone, and other battery salvaging methods.
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This is < 9 hours unplugged and < 2 hours SOT.
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lets see a screenshot of your whole battety stats page, with all the apps listed and usage. that android os by itself means nothing.

jphilippon said:
I've seen people here and there say they've seen this too, but no one seems to have an answer. My battery isn't lasting until work ENDS, a far cry from when I used to plug it in after work, at home, at 20-30%. It just randomly started happening.
Noticed this on both 4.2.2 and 4.3. I've tried .48 radio and .83, stock and PA, stock kernel and Franco, heard it's common on CM also.
Anyone actually know anything about this? I'd love to last an entire day not having to turn off sync when I'm not using my phone, and other battery salvaging methods.
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Download wakelock detector and greenify from Play store. Wakelock detector will tell u what exactly is keeping ur phone awake and freeze it with greenify
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lets see a screenshot of your whole battety stats page, with all the apps listed and usage. that android os by itself means nothing.
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Meant to include both sorry.
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jphilippon said:
Meant to include both sorry.
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your android os looks normal. seeing that you didnt use the phone much, your screen on percent is lowered. since your screen on percentage is lower, all others will appear higher than you would think they should be. but if your screen was using 50-65% of the battery as it would for normal use, then your other percentages would be lower. anyways, your android os is normal. what i would look for is an app in the background behaving badly, or disable a notification or two if you have many. if you have root, i would install greenify and then greenify a bunch of apps.
my android os usually hangs between 4-8%, but my screen is usually around 60%(with heavy use).

simms22 said:
your android os looks normal. seeing that you didnt use the phone much, your screen on percent is lowered. since your screen on percentage is lower, all others will appear higher than you would think they should be. but if your screen was using 50-65% of the battery as it would for normal use, then your other percentages would be lower. anyways, your android os is normal. what i would look for is an app in the background behaving badly, or disable a notification or two if you have many. if you have root, i would install greenify and then greenify a bunch of apps.
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I think the proportions seem right but I've never had 1-2 or more HOUR wakelocks, it just caught my attention.
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jphilippon said:
I think the proportions seem right but I've never had 1-2 or more HOUR wakelocks, it just caught my attention.
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i never look at wakelocks, that is how our device is supposed to work. granted, occasionally an app will create a wakelock that gets stuck, but thats just bad coding on the app by that developer. watching wakelocks will waste more of your time than its worth. take control of your apps instead, dont let them run rampart.

Neither BBS or Wakelock Detector is helpful in diagnosing Android OS battery usage. Most of the time it shows as PowerManagerService.Wakelock in Kernel Wakelocks, and pages from google state that is it a sum of Partial Wakelocks adding to PowerManagerService.Wakelock. But there was one time I had a 15 hour wakelock from PowerManagerService.Wakelock and looking in Partial there wasn't anything really significant, most entries being 20mins or something at the top of the list, 10 minutes on the next, and so on.
Whatever it is, it's particularly bad on 4.3 both on my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7.

So I listened to some music for roughly 20 minutes in the car. Set my phone down to watch TV. Came back 45 minutes later and it dropped ~25%. This is WITH 3.5 hours SOT. android somehow still takes top spot. Help?
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jphilippon said:
So I listened to some music for roughly 20 minutes in the car. Set my phone down to watch TV. Came back 45 minutes later and it dropped ~25%. This is WITH 3.5 hours SOT. android somehow still takes top spot. Help?
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Everything was fine after the 4.4.2 update until a couple of days ago. I noticed a heavy battery drain during the night - approx. 20%. The conclusion I made: Android OS is back. The WiFi was on, but the router was off, so I though it might have something to do with it trying to establish a connection.
This past night I turned the WiFi off and left the 3G on. 10+ hours of wakelock from Android OS and 30% drain. So, what am I missing here?
The worst part is that those f"%^* from Android developers team has disabled any reporting from the running processes in the latest version.

Torque77 said:
Everything was fine after the 4.4.2 update until a couple of days ago. I noticed a heavy battery drain during the night - approx. 20%. The conclusion I made: Android OS is back. The WiFi was on, but the router was off, so I though it might have something to do with it trying to establish a connection.
This past night I turned the WiFi off and left the 3G on. 10+ hours of wakelock from Android OS and 30% drain. So, what am I missing here?
The worst part is that those f"%^* from Android developers team has disabled any reporting from the running processes in the latest version.
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You can use the stock google app to find what google app is running during the wakelocks. Just go into Settings -> Apps -> Running tab and see what google process are running. Then download and use "Disable Service" from the playstore to find and disable the suspect google apps.
My phone would stay wakelocked after a call or gmail check all because of gcm_google service. I disable it under Playstore services using Disable Service and my google wakelocks went away. Worth a try.

same problem here

misuse of wake locks can easily lead to energy waste

"Android os" usually is the kernel while "Android system" is, well the system. Try changing kernel, it fixed the issues for me.
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