Is it worth it? - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have my tablet coming this week. I had a transformer prime and a galaxy s3. Both are rooted and running custom roms. My question is , is it worth it to load a custom rom or should I just root googles software? I heard google makes really good software so is installing a different rom going to improve the performance and or battery life? What is your option?

Use it bone stock for a few days to get a good feel for it to begin with. When you're comfortable with it, go ahead and root/unlock, and flash a few different Roms to see what you like/don't like and decide from there. After I rooted and flashed, I haven't looked back to stock.
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I would root it for rooted's same lol. But I cannot live without Pie. So I'm stuck with a ROM although there are some aspects of stock that are nicer
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I agree with Trickster. Get it and make sure the software is up to date. Use it stock for a few days, get a feel for the battery, and speed while stock. After a week or two flash a ROM and enjoy.

There are very few reasons to stick to a stock ROM when it's just vanilla android. You don't lose anything. I've been running paranoid android for ages purely because of Tablet mode and I haven't missed out on anything,

Carter0108 said:
There are very few reasons to stick to a stock ROM when it's just vanilla android. You don't lose anything. I've been running paranoid android for ages purely because of Tablet mode and I haven't missed out on anything,
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What do you mean by tablet mode ?
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What do you mean by tablet mode ?
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Tablet mode means the user interface is optimized for a true tablet layout as opposed to the Nexus 10's which has a phablet user interface by default which is a hybrid between phone and tablet interface. Also the tablet layout makes better use of the large amount of screen real estate available on the tablet.
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shimp208 said:
Tablet mode means the user interface is optimized for a true tablet layout as opposed to the Nexus 10's which has a phablet user interface by default which is a hybrid between phone and tablet interface. Also the tablet layout makes better use of the large amount of screen real estate available on the tablet.
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I think I understand, anyway I cannot see your point regarding Parandroid
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best rom for nexus 7?

just bought my nexus 7 would like to know what rom is best when it comes to battery life, quickness, and stability?? please help choose rom their are so many
mbrito41712 said:
just bought my nexus 7 would like to know what rom is best when it comes to battery life, quickness, and stability?? please help choose rom their are so many
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The new team BAMF wrong is sooooo buttery! Running very smooth and stable for me
Ive been using Paul Obriens Jr# ROMs. theyre just tweaked stock ROMs, but I have never had a single issue so far and with every release there are new features without any new bugs. which is always nice.
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The new team BAMF wrong is sooooo buttery! Running very smooth and stable for me
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2nd'd
BAMF is my daily driver .. with Nova Launcher .. reeeeal smoove
Running skanky cm10 nightlies. Very stable, very happy
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BAMF is my daily driver .. with Nova Launcher .. reeeeal smoove
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How much smoother can it be than stock jb? Seems like people are getting placebo effects from custom roms, only benefit I see is removal of bloat, if there is any really.
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It ships with stock so run stock for a few weeks to establish a baseline for stability and speed before you go experimenting.
I would wait a couple months. Stock nexus 7 runs great. Just unlock and root it. After a couple months Roms will start to mature and you will also see which ones seem to be leading, me personally, I love to flash. But I, very happy with stock and nova launcher. There are some things I would like from full tablet ui. But every ROM is promising the world. Just waiting to see which ones take the lead.
So just wait for now. no rush, do you hate stock that much?
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Plus people are having some issues booting into recovery without a USB or adb
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Have tried just about all the popular ones out as of yet, favorite so far has to be TeamEOS' nightlies. Very stable, UI works great, launcher rotation, and has the ICS style status bar, which I prefer.
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I se quick boot - lets me soft boot into recovery - no messing around with USB cables
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Plus people are having some issues booting into recovery without a USB or adb
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I've been using the Pure AOSP rom, I used the stock for a couple of days and then switched, never looked back. There aren't a lot of differences between stock and the Pure AOSP, but the AOSP rom provides a cleaner starting point and the camera works by default.
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I'm currently running stock, I just rooted and unlocked so I'm set whenever the stable full roms start kicking in. No need to rush it, just stick with stock for now
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How much smoother can it be than stock jb? Seems like people are getting placebo effects from custom roms, only benefit I see is removal of bloat, if there is any really.
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I think you are right about that. Although I flash Roms on my galaxy note, I could not see the need on the nexus 7 because it runs better than any ROM I ever put on the note
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I keep trying new ones in hopes that it will somehow get even better, but keep returning to stock.
Nothing is as smooth.
Currently running stock, rooted, deodexed. With the tabletUI mod. Nova launcher. awesome.
I'm running BAMF Paradigm. It's absolutely an amazing blend of custom features that offer visual and performance related options to really make it your tablet, I'm very happy with it, I've run several others also. DEFINITELY recommend Motley's kernel, it's one of the things I love most about the nexus 7. Also Aaronpoweruser's (sp) cookies and cream rom ran really good for me.
Just go for a different kernel rather than ROM, I tried out Trinity today (only got the 7 yesterday) and I find its quite slick..
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lindenhurst said:
I think you are right about that. Although I flash Roms on my galaxy note, I could not see the need on the nexus 7 because it runs better than any ROM I ever put on the note
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How much smoother can it be than stock jb? Seems like people are getting placebo effects from custom roms, only benefit I see is removal of bloat, if there is any really.
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Hundred percent agree. I have Paranoid Android on there just for the Tablet UI changes. I have found that Kernel Improvements do help drastically.
plain old pure aosp. its clean and fast, with the trinity kernel at least
Jelly Bean Glazed V1.1.2
mbrito41712 said:
just bought my nexus 7 would like to know what rom is best when it comes to battery life, quickness, and stability?? please help choose rom their are so many
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I have only tried Jelly Bean Glazed V1.1.2 with motley kernel and I love it! Rock solid stability, amazing speed and great customization.
oscarinexus7 said:
I have only tried Jelly Bean Glazed V1.1.2 with motley kernel and I love it! Rock solid stability, amazing speed and great customization.
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I've also found that Glazed is the only ROM of the one's that I've tried so far that let's me use Amazon Instant Video from the Amazon web site.

What launcher do you use?

Being a tablet, I've used just stock ICS launcher for a long time now. I was wondering if you guys prefer any other launchers and if so, which ones?
I think if you asked on themes and apps you'd get a better response , just word the question into a statement
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I stick with the stock ICS launcher. Every third party launcher I have fiddled with makes my tablet look like a huge cell phone or slows it to a crawl.
On my phone I use ADW.Launcher - pretty clean and lots of fun to configure. Works fine on the tab and does not cause any lag I can notice; but (in my opinion) - it looks like crap compared to the stock ICS launcher.
Just my $0.02 USD
Sslauncher, the best
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Help needed: Looking for a rom

Hey All,
I'm looking for a rom and having trouble figuring out which one will best suit my needs. Typically, I would just download a bunch of roms and try them out, but I'm stuck in China with a low data ceiling on a very slow connection for the foreseeable future. I really need to be like 80% sure before I download.
I've been running CleanRom since the summer, and that has been a great experience, but CleanRom is no longer being developed, so I'm no longer up to date.
I want something with integrated tablet mode, and I would like something with a volume slider in the notification tray. Wifi toggle switch would also be ideal (I prefer not to use apps for these features). Aside from those features, I just need the most stable rom possible. Additional customization isn't necessary. In fact, pure stock outside of the features I listed would be great. And I'm obviously not looking for nightly builds. I want something to throw on here and leave on until the next Android update.
Does anyone know a rom that meets this criteria? If you have suggestions, I would love to hear them, and then I'll go read some threads.
I really appreciate the help.
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Check CM10 with Tablet UI, it should fit the needs you are looking for.
I have been using it since last 4 days and its been stable.No issues yet.
sahshah said:
Check CM10 with Tablet UI, it should fit the needs you are looking for.
I have been using it since last 4 days and its been stable.No issues yet.
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I was just flipping through that thread to see what people were saying. I appreciate the suggestion.
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Check Glazed Jellybean here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796668
I've been running this rom since 1.1.2 and have been very pleased with it. My current setup is Glazed JB 2.0 with the included Franco kernel, and Nova Launcher Prime for a launcher. I'm also using Pimp My Rom 2.0 for additional tweaks, but from the sounds of it you may not even want that.
Good luck in your search.
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jskeyes said:
Check Glazed Jellybean here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796668
I've been running this rom since 1.1.2 and have been very pleased with it. My current setup is Glazed JB 2.0 with the included Franco kernel, and Nova Launcher Prime for a launcher. I'm also using Pimp My Rom 2.0 for additional tweaks, but from the sounds of it you may not even want that.
Good luck in your search.
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Ivbeen looking at that one too, but the feedback seems to indicate that it might be more buggy. Have you had this experience?
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ejchis said:
Ivbeen looking at that one too, but the feedback seems to indicate that it might be more buggy. Have you had this experience?
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You want a solid rom? Team EOS is going to be your best bet. Very minimal isnt loaded with a bunch of crap you wont use. Has its own toggles however are kind of an eyesore IMO. You could just use an app to do the same thing i recommend "Extended Controls" Its a dollar.. but well worth it. LOL reread your OP oops.. :S
Also if you have the pull down.. and swipe in the middle to either the right or the left.. it will swap the Date and clock to a volume slider on the left and a brightness slider on the right .
The only problem I've had with this rom is the oft mentioned error about invalid glazed 2.0 init.. and it's more of a minor nuisance than anything. Functionality does not seem to have a problem, and I'm sure the message has something to do with Glazed being based on a CM nightly.. a bad integer table entry perhaps. Either way, my overall experience has been great with this setup.. buttery fast, and buttery smooth.
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Thanks for getting back to me on that. I've got a list of three I'm investigating. Trying out this CM10 kang first.
I've had very good luck with cm10. I've tried a few others but keep coming back to cyanogenmod. It's stable and has the features I want. On my Tablet I have many of them turned off, but it's nice for my phone. I
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[Q] 4.2 True Tablet UI?

Is there a way to patch the true tablet UI back into 4.2? I'm LOVING the new features, enough so that I'd put up with the phablet UI, but, I still loved the old one. I know it JUST came out, but someone has to have some idea at the least. Would it be possible to import and merge the old UI somewhat? Taking the old tablet UI, and merging it(even manually) with the new phablet UI, to create something that looks and functions like the tablet UI, but is usable on 4.2. Any thoughts?
Breath and sit tight, someone will get it figured out
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No way so far?
Root
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No way on stock I don't think. Custom roms have had Tablet Mode as a select-able option in settings, for a while now. I've been running SmoothRom for MONTHS using Tablet Mode.
From my understanding, Google removed the Tablet UI mode from the newer versions. The old code is still there, supposedly, but it requires custom coding to remake the connections for it to work.
Just remember:
Stock + Modifications = Custom
Sounds like you are wanting to use a custom rom anyway.
In the Apps & Themes subforum there is a thread for a flashable way to add it. Requires root obviously.
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I just found a flashable zip for CM. But I'm on stock 4.2.2 with root.
xxLeoxx93 said:
I just found a flashable zip for CM. But I'm on stock 4.2.2 with root.
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A 2 second search in the subforum yields a thread with the title " [06/04/13][MOD+ROM][4.2.2][Stock Mods for odex and deodex][Reboot Menu and TabletUI]"
How much easier can it be?
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I have searched for an hour - I found nothing. Maybe I was just to stupid
But thanks a lot for your help.
I knew what I was looking for so searched for "tabletui" so perhaps that's why it was easy to find. But honestly there's tons of useful things over in that subforum just browse through the titles and don't stop after the first page. The Nexus has been out almost a year now and some of the apps and fixes just worked so the last post may have been awhile ago simply because there's nothing new to say.
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Or you guys could flash paranoid...
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Or you guys could flash paranoid...
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Or SmoothRom or AOKP or many of the several others that support Tablet UI out of the box. I've actually found PA's Tablet UI to be buggier.
Mine has always worked well. I don't see a difference in the two.
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Or check the date of original post, this was created last year
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BrianDigital said:
Or check the date of original post, this was created last year
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Well xxLeon aske earlier this week if it was possible and I responded to that.
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Multi window?

Are there any hacks/plans on getting multi window support for the 10? That would be sweeeeeet.
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I am waiting too. Our nexus with multiwindow could be "la polla"
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avicioso said:
I am waiting too. Our nexus with multiwindow could be "la polla"
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Would love to this also!
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This can be achieved by apps. Super video is a floating video player, air calc is a floating calculator, floating banner gives you a onscreen menu to start apps and view widgets.
/edit: oh yeah, forgot about floating browser.
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I have always wondered why android does everything full screen. On a phone with limited real estate OK I can see that but on a tablet with a lot more real estate why don't we have a more desktop like experience? Ii hope key lime pie bakes in multi window functionality because its quite silly to waste so much space since there are plenty of people who truly like to multitask.
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I agree, a multi window mode would be awesome.
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I agree, a multi window mode would be awesome.
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I agree, a multi window mode would be awesome.
Its the app developers that need to implement it, not the rom. The functionality is already built into android.
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But if the app developers dont use this function then what is there to do about it?
Could it be built into the launcher so that all apps will have a frame around it where you can change between full screen and windowed mode? Just like in Windows
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I am waiting too. Our nexus with multiwindow could be "la polla"
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??? I get the translation of "La Polla" to be "****" ???
+1 for the option, I would also like my launcher to be split as well. I like to have a 12 x 6 grid of icons, would love the launcher to rotate as two separate 6 x 6 grids
This won't happen until Google makes it in Android. The only way to make it responsibly is to implement it as an opt-in api. But, only Samsung or Google have the clout to make such an API and actually get developers to use it.
CyanogenMod developers wanted to improve Cornerstone but we were literally threatened by a Google employee on Google+. While Cornerstone was exciting at first, I see where the Google employee was coming from. Multiwindow, if done badly, will cause even more fragmentation issues for application developers.
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??? I get the translation of "La Polla" to be "****" ???
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That's right. But in Spain (I don't know if it's the same in South America), it's used as an equivalent of "sweet" or "cool" times one thousand.
It's really common, but not usually used in written form.
reycat said:
That's right. But in Spain (I don't know if it's the same in South America), it's used as an equivalent of "sweet" or "cool" times one thousand.
It's really common, but not usually used in written form.
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Yes, in spain means cool or great. Sorry.
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Yes, in spain means cool or great. Sorry.
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Looks like google translate leaves a lot to be desired.
I recently used it to translate the word Preto from Portuguese to English. The results are shocking, I reported it to google
Hey guys, I've heard that the official AOKP ROM for the N10 could be getting multi window in the future. If you head over to the thread some users have asked about it and apparently the devs have plans for it. besides that, its a lightning fast ROM
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Yes, in spain means cool or great. Sorry.
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That's awesome Lol I'm bringing that phrase to America!! "You see the preview for the new Die Hard? That movie looks like the ****!!" Lol
Any app, kernel or ROM support this?
I have a number of apps where I'd like to keep them running in the background, minimised or windowed but keep running, and currently they basically close themselves if I swap to other apps. Examples are Hulu and Slingplayer. I think I know why Hulu behaves like that.... its to try to bully you into watching the commercials, not sure why Slingpayer does it though.
On a desktop OS like Ubuntu or Windows I can just run multiple apps concurrently and they run independently of if on the screen or not. Good for doing something else whilst Hulu plays its commercials.
I've been searching and seems the OS has the hooks but the app must enable itself? Is there a ROM which allows it? OmniROM seems to??
I've only played with stock Android and a few kernels so far.
I got a Nexus 7 I can brick as a playing system til I find a solution to then put on my N10.
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On a desktop OS like Ubuntu or Windows I can just run multiple apps concurrently and they run independently of if on the screen or not. Good for doing something else whilst Hulu plays its commercials.
I've been searching and seems the OS has the hooks but the app must enable itself? Is there a ROM which allows it? OmniROM seems to?
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See my signature below for a link to a working split-view custom ROM (Tempest). It can be tempermental as it is still a work in progress. For YouTube in split-view use an alternative playstore app called Viral. In my opinion it is better than Google's app anyway as it provides the options users have requested for a long time.
Tried to find appropriate thread but this might be the closest. My N10 is still rooted & running 4.3.1 and I haven't found a compelling reason to update to 4.4.x because of the slew of reported problems others have experienced with their updates. Also I don't want to lose the split window settings menu unique to the larger tablets, which I understand has been lost with 4.4. Has that split menu settings been restored in later updates of 4.4?
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