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New battery... higher capacity than original???

hey all.
i am considering buying as new battery for my defy. the one i have is about a year and a bit old and batteries do tend to wear. i have come across a few on ebay that are higher capacity than original and am wondering if they will charge to full.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200788221...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_2357wt_1142
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250992673...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_2295wt_1142
i have a defy red lense and am currently running cm7 kang by fuzz i think it is (great job mate by the way love it it is silky smooth). i am considering giving the cm9 rom a try out shortly so would also like it to work with that rom.
so will these charge up to their full capacity or will they not? if anyone knows before i take the plunge can they let me know please
thanks

I've got a 3500 capacity one it charges to 100% then runs down to 0% but then stays alive for an extra day I've got rid of battery icon just wish I can get rid of flashing red light and the warning on lockscreen. If your rooted you can get battery calabrator from market. It works but not for the massive batteries. Hope this helps
defy cm7

cheers mate exactly the answered i was looking for. will get one of those above then probably the 2400 one or whatever it is. that will do me i all i need is an extra 12 hours or so. i may even go and get one of the external batteries as well as a new internal battery as that would be good for all my usb devices. cheers again bud.

No worries glad I could help.
defy cm7

Does anyone think it is possible to create a custom battd.bin which supports the higher capacity? That would be really cool

Might be an idear!
I will have a think about it.
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I would support that. I wonder what is required to change the battd file for larger batteries
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jonezy8873 said:
If your rooted you can get battery calabrator from market. It works but not for the massive batteries.
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Hi,
as I found, battery calibration doesn't solve this, even not on the smaller batteries. I use a 1700 mAh HF5X battery in Defy. Somehow it's recognized as 500 mAh, and not charged fully. I have the same issue: battery indicator stays on 1% for a long time.
I tried every fix and kernel I've found but nothing worked yet.

After checking, I think those batteries aren't so good (except perhaps the 3500 one) ... give a look at this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1828768
More, I checked other seller on ebay and everytime the same, whatever the seller : all the bad comments are about "high capacity" batteries ...
Good luck to find a good one

[Q] Battery issues with my phone

Hello there.
My phone has a bit of a problem with battery drains.
I have a MB525 with CM10, 17/02 build.
The issue:
It's about the frickin battery drops. It drains too fast and then it drops from 80 percent to a whalloping 50 percent, and then from 48 percent to 15 percent. And then to 4 percent. Not to mention the phone's temperature rises ridiculously when I use 3G.
I have already tried:
- undervolting the battery (no significative results)
- letting it drain completely and then charging again (did not work, battery still drains)
- clearing battery stats (no effect)
While charging, the battery jumps from 50% to 100% fully charged.
I am seriously considering buying a new battery, but I'm afraid it's an issue with the ROM rather than the battery itself.
Any other ideas are welcome. I need to solve this issue ASAP.
Thanks in advance.

BlazeReborn said:
Hello there.
My phone has a bit of a problem with battery drains.
I have a MB525 with CM10, 17/02 build.
The issue:
It's about the frickin battery drops. It drains too fast and then it drops from 80 percent to a whalloping 50 percent, and then from 48 percent to 15 percent. And then to 4 percent. Not to mention the phone's temperature rises ridiculously when I use 3G.
I have already tried:
- undervolting the battery (no significative results)
- letting it drain completely and then charging again (did not work, battery still drains)
- clearing battery stats (no effect)
While charging, the battery jumps from 50% to 100% fully charged.
I am seriously considering buying a new battery, but I'm afraid it's an issue with the ROM rather than the battery itself.
Any other ideas are welcome. I need to solve this issue ASAP.
Thanks in advance.
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Its a battery issue mate
I faced the same issues
changing the battery fixed the issue
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Rawwr said:
Its a battery issue mate
I faced the same issues
changing the battery fixed the issue
Sent from my Xperia Z using xda premium
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Yeah, I was almost certain of that but I was reluctant to buy a new battery and face the same issue.
Just like you, replacing the battery solved the issue. But I still experience battery drains. Must say it's A LOT better now though.
Any tips on tweaking my software to consume less energy (vsel, etc etc) are appreciated.
Thanks!

i've got the same problem with drops/jumps when both discharging and charging....... bought a new battery and still have the same problem so not sure what it is. I bought it from what seemed like a reputable amazon marketplace dealer, so hope it wasnt fake

BlazeReborn said:
Yeah, I was almost certain of that but I was reluctant to buy a new battery and face the same issue.
Just like you, replacing the battery solved the issue. But I still experience battery drains. Must say it's A LOT better now though.
Any tips on tweaking my software to consume less energy (vsel, etc etc) are appreciated.
Thanks!
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Well
Wipe the battery stats
Let the battery drain to 0% and let the fone to switch off
And charge the fone to over night
Ur problem will be solved
Install deep sleep battery saver from market and set the profile to balance
Install greenify and hibernate the apps running in background
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insurgente said:
i've got the same problem with drops/jumps when both discharging and charging....... bought a new battery and still have the same problem so not sure what it is. I bought it from what seemed like a reputable amazon marketplace dealer, so hope it wasnt fake
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Check the battery
If it has genuine Motorola sticker
Its kinda shiny
Ps
ooriginal motorola battery costs around 23 us dollars
In my opinion u should have bought it from eBay
I bought mine fRom ebay as well
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Rawwr said:
Well
Wipe the battery stats
Let the battery drain to 0% and let the fone to switch off
And charge the fone to over night
Ur problem will be solved
Install deep sleep battery saver from market and set the profile to balance
Install greenify and hibernate the apps running in background
Sent from my Xperia Z using xda premium
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Check the battery
If it has genuine Motorola sticker
Its kinda shiny
Ps
ooriginal motorola battery costs around 23 us dollars
In my opinion u should have bought it from eBay
I bought mine fRom ebay as well
Sent from my Xperia Z using xda premium
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yep, got a hologram on it....can they not be faked?

insurgente said:
yep, got a hologram on it....can they not be faked?
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A hologram? I doubt on that
How much they charged?
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Rawwr said:
A hologram? I doubt on that
How much they charged?
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about $10.... dunno, I was hoping a reputable amazon seller would be more reliable than ebay :/ he's agreed to send me another battery

Well the original bf5x will cost u around 23 USD
The battery u got isn't the original one
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Greenify is awesome @[email protected]
I'm getting about 12 hours of battery life now. Kinda hard to believe how well my phone is working.
Anyway, this thread is solved and mods can lock it away. Thank you all for the help

Battery Problem (Random reboots)

Hello everyone,
I just bought Samsung Galaxy S4 three months ago, everything was working fine, but suddenly the phone switched off at 53% and when I switched it on again it said 0% and kept rebooting. After removing the battery and putting it again, it became around 30% - 40% and 5min later, it switched off again. The battery became a bit fat than normal, not straight anymore.
I already read some topics about this problem, and the solution was buying a new one. Now the question is, what were the problems that made the battery goes bad like this? I've some suggestions which might be the cause of the problem but don't know if they are right, but I'm going to share them anyway and I hope someone could help and tells us the real thing that caused the problem so we can all avoid it from happening again.
Suggestions are:
1. Charging the phone a lot of time even after reaching 100% (Fully charged icon).
2. Charging the phone with a car charger.
3. Charging the phone with a non original charger.
4. Using the phone while charging it.
Thanks in advance, I'll really appreciate your help.

My friend had the same problem, You need to buy a new battery

Thanks for your reply. but i wanted to know the real reasons that caused the problem and made the battery to be fat.

it seems there was a batch of defective batteries made by samsung . some people have suggested that Samsung changed the battery for free since they had their warranty ; other were less lucky. there is a thread in the general forum about this issue

difyel said:
it seems there was a batch of defective batteries made by samsung . some people have suggested that Samsung changed the battery for free since they had their warranty ; other were less lucky. there is a thread in the general forum about this issue
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Thanks difyel a lot. Is there any precautions I can take to avoid this from happening again? Or at least knowing the non defective batteries before getting it from Samsung?

I had a similar issue, sent mine in for repair no idea what they fixed but it was solved. Anyway I've since bought the Anker stock battery and that's been excellent for me.
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nikzDHD said:
I had a similar issue, sent mine in for repair no idea what they fixed but it was solved. Anyway I've since bought the Anker stock battery and that's been excellent for me.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 2
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Thanks nikzDHD for your reply.
Did they tell you that they've fixed it? Because as I knew, swollen batteries can't be fixed and they've to replace it for you. Which Anker one did you buy and how much does it cost?
Thanks a lot for your answer again.

it seems that batteries with batch id starting with bd are the culprit . you can check bob's battery guide thread for tips to make your battery last longer and where your battery juice is spent :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35061392
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some things in that thread do not apply to the s4 such as link2sd use systemcleanup instead - or other alternatives - to freeze or uninstall bloatware

difyel said:
it seems that batteries with batch id starting with bd are the culprit . you can check bob's battery guide thread for tips to make your battery last longer and where your battery juice is spent :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35061392
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some things in that thread do not apply to the s4 such as link2sd use systemcleanup instead - or other alternatives - to freeze or uninstall bloatware
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Well that's true, I just checked mine and yeah it started with BD. Thanks a lot mate, that was useful.. gonna tell Samsung to get me one that isn't starting with BD, and thanks for this amazing guide.
Last question, do you know any other famous problems like the battery one?

to be honnest i didn't face any issues with my s4 . The only things that i hold against Samsung are regional locking and knox . But there is a thread discussing major problems with s4 you can find it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292562

Battery Drops, need new files?

Hi, I'm running CM10.2 in my Defy, and the battery has some big ass drops, and then keeps working at 1% for a long time. Is it possible that I need new battd files? I've read the Battery Drops Explained Thread, but I didn't quite understand how to fix it. Can anyone help, please?

Anyone can help, please? Not even with a new battery this issue got fixed :/

I think i can help you..download xposed module and then use disable critical battery shutdown..

obbama said:
Hi, I'm running CM10.2 in my Defy, and the battery has some big ass drops, and then keeps working at 1% for a long time. Is it possible that I need new battd files? I've read the Battery Drops Explained Thread, but I didn't quite understand how to fix it. Can anyone help, please?
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if this happens on ur new battery , the then below reply is from my experience which i posted to another thread...
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Dont worry . this happens to me also.. im too bought a battery of 600rs from ebay and battery stays 1 % for a day...
For an investigation i checked the battery voltage (at 100% charge voltage will be 4.2) when it drops to 1%, its nearly 3.9 and phone will keep working till voltage reduces to 3.5... im getting 2 days minimum backup of moderate use...
now to explain why 1% , this is an answer i gt from FB group .. "dnt expect Original battery at 600rs wen its actually cost 1200rs, they are actually replica of real and the so battery circuit send false info to phone, and phone calculates percentage remaining on this "
i tried to switch some cm7 version but in all battery drop at 1% happens.... so i ignored it and my defy still rocks in daily usage after 3 years ...

Is this battery consumption normal?

Hi all,
I just come with this Screenshots to know your opinion on the consumption of my s5. Honestly Im jealous of those people getting 4,5hours of SOT in a full charge. I believe I can barely achieve 2h. My phone is rooted, de bloated with smart debloater and uses Greenify (which has not provided me a noticeable gain).
I've seen a very big drain just after plugging off the phone (like 5 or 6%) in two hours without using it. Also everything I unlock the phone the drain is very fast. So idle state seems no to be the cause
What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance.
By the way, while writing this post I've lost 5% of charge.

paco_ramirez said:
Hi all,
I just come with this Screenshots to know your opinion on the consumption of my s5. Honestly Im jealous of those people getting 4,5hours of SOT in a full charge. I believe I can barely achieve 2h. My phone is rooted, de bloated with smart debloater and uses Greenify (which has not provided me a noticeable gain).
I've seen a very big drain just after plugging off the phone (like 5 or 6%) in two hours without using it. Also everything I unlock the phone the drain is very fast. So idle state seems no to be the cause
What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance.
By the way, while writing this post I've lost 5% of charge.
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Need a new battery I think and with the battery you gotta keep it cool, don't charge you phone and use it when its under 20 ℅. And the hotter the battery gets the faster it will discharge and if your charging at the same time the CPU will work harder to charge the battery and do whatever you want to do with your phone making it a double whammy wearing out your battery much faster than normal. You not supposed to let our batteries to go below 20 %. Well you can but don't use it at the same time your charging.

Zer0b1ade said:
Need a new battery I think and with the battery you gotta keep it cool, don't charge you phone and use it when its under 20 ℅. And the hotter the battery gets the faster it will discharge and if your charging at the same time the CPU will work harder to charge the battery and do whatever you want to do with your phone making it a double whammy wearing out your battery much faster than normal. You not supposed to let our batteries to go below 20 %. Well you can but don't use it at the same time your charging.
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Thank you very much for your information. Any suggestion about a new battery? I've seen this one.
I've just plugged off from 100% and I got a battery drain of 5% just by speaking 15 minutes (no hand-free). I think it's a very big battery drain for just a small talk. I think that confirm your hypothesis of the wasted battery.
Is there any way to know the real capacity of the battery I currently have? It is just to know how far it is from its original performance.

I've checked on Go Power Master app and it claims 2520 (at 90%) mah in my battery. Is this confident? If so, I shouldn't expect a big improvement buying a new battery. What about using other roms or making a factory reset?.

paco_ramirez said:
I've checked on Go Power Master app and it claims 2520 (at 90%) mah in my battery. Is this confident? If so, I shouldn't expect a big improvement buying a new battery. What about using other roms or making a factory reset?.
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How old is your battery? Mah rating and the rate it discharges are different you can discharge 2600 mah batter in an hour or 3 days depending on use and environment and conditions. Like I said before the hotter your battery gets the faster the disharge go same with the cpu the hotter it gets the more power it demands from the battery. And if your battery get under 20% fast charging comes. Into play as well which is bad for the battery as well.
If your dropping off that fast I think is a defective battery or over clocked cpu settings. My s5 did he same till I bought a new battery I last 8-12 hours of heavy use now compared to 4 hours. With a new battery I suggest a higher capacity but same dimensions as the old one they can be expensive but a bigger battery will damage your phone over time.
I have a 5600mah battery now by 5he way.
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Oh my power app tells me I have 2520 too but I really dont....heh
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Oh that battery looks OK I can't read the language lol just make sure its not refurbished or used and check out if u can refund it or not lol

My battery is from October 2015. It's the original one that came with the phone

Here is last report:
Despite performance is not the worst, do you think the difference with a new one is very big?

Back in my S3 Mini days I had to change the battery and the difference was huge for it. A year ago I replaced my S5's battery for the first time (I own my black beauty since february 2015) and I remember that I saw an improvement in battery life and in performance a bit as well.
A trick: take out your battery and put it on a flat surface (table or whatever) and try to spin it. If it spins freely, buy new one for sure.
I'd advise you to also update from KitKat to Marshmallow as that made my phone brand new but I see you're on 6.0.1 already so nevermind
I myself lose the first ~10% of my charge in one hour or even less...while not doing literally anything with my screen off. So yeah, maybe it's gonna be time for another replacement in a few months
By the way I tried Greenify today. The drain was far worse than when I didn't have it installed lol. Android Marshmallow is finally that one guy who's capable of handling himself alone without helpers like Greenify so try without it, it eats up your CPU anyway (as minimal as it can be, it still does).
With 3G always enabled I can get between 3 and 4 hours of screen on time (no games ofcourse) and around, idk, 10 hours total time until it hits below 10% and asks for some juice.
This^ was simply impossible with android 4.4.2 on the same phone so 6.0.1 really impressed me a lot as I had awful memories of Lollipop (that's why I didn't update for so long actually).
To sum up: try all the software ways of extending your battery life - with/without Greenify, uninstall/disable/optimise certain apps like Facebook and Spotify (says they slow down my phone), change ROMs, change kernels, change settings and if nothing works get a new battery.
PS: When Samsung go back on track and put a removable battery + all old features in a new flagship, I'm switching to that (S9, S10, SX, whatever xd). Newer phones got water cooling (~30 degrees while gaming, S5 gets 36-40C).

Thank you very much for your long answer. Honestly I don't trust too much battery savers. I've tried in the past many of them with no visible results. In fact greenify has never shown me any benefit. Notwithstanding, in this specific case, I've seen that hibernating "mi fit" (from xiaomi) I can appreciate a considerable improvement (5-10% of gain). I own a mi band and apart from keeping Bluetooth on (which seems not to be a big drainer) mi fit abuses of this connection. In fact "tools & mi band" seems to be more energy efficient with the connection to the mi band.
In any case I'll order a new one as it is not normal to have the drain for 100 to 90 being off and idle

I've changed old battery for a new one and I haven't seen any considerable improvement. After it, I've done a factory reset and a battery calibration (using the app on the store that requires root) and nothing... Any suggestion? I have the feeling that new battery is OK but somehow my phone is unable to take advantage of its performance...

koragg97 said:
Back in my S3 Mini days I had to change the battery and the difference was huge for it. A year ago I replaced my S5's battery for the first time (I own my black beauty since february 2015) and I remember that I saw an improvement in battery life and in performance a bit as well.
A trick: take out your battery and put it on a flat surface (table or whatever) and try to spin it. If it spins freely, buy new one for sure.
I'd advise you to also update from KitKat to Marshmallow as that made my phone brand new but I see you're on 6.0.1 already so nevermind :..
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Ive just unplugged it 50 minutes ago and I have 10 percent left with only 10 minutes screen off... There is something wrong and I don't think the two batteries (old and new) are in bad state in the same way... There may be something else..

Have you tried to install the stock firmware through odin? PS: Read the instruction before trying it!!!

paco_ramirez said:
Ive just unplugged it 50 minutes ago and I have 10 percent left with only 10 minutes screen off... There is something wrong and I don't think the two batteries (old and new) are in bad state in the same way... There may be something else..
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Make nandroid backup with TWRP and flash official firmware. That's just not normal for any kind of battery (good or bad)

tm60405 said:
Have you tried to install the stock firmware through odin? PS: Read the instruction before trying it!!!
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Make nandroid backup with TWRP and flash official firmware. That's just not normal for any kind of battery (good or bad)
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Right now I have DreamUX V2 A7 (2017). I flashed one week ago hoping to remove this strange battery behavior. But it remains. Do you think reflashing stock firmware will fix it? I'll check instructions before going ahead. Thanks to both!

paco_ramirez said:
Right now I have DreamUX V2 A7 (2017). I flashed one week ago hoping to remove this strange battery behavior. But it remains. Do you think reflashing stock firmware will fix it? I'll check instructions before going ahead. Thanks to both!
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If it gets fixed after firmware reinstall then it's a software bug. If it gets fixed after changing the battery then it's a hardware bug. If it doesn't get fixed after trying both things then it's black magic :s
Also try to clear dalvik-cache and cache and do factory reset before and after flashing.

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If it gets fixed after firmware reinstall then it's a software bug. If it gets fixed after changing the battery then it's a hardware bug. If it doesn't get fixed after trying both things then it's black magic :s
Also try to clear dalvik-cache and cache and do factory reset before and after flashing.
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OK I'll go ahead with this. Good guide to reflash stock rom?
I'll do several factory resets to see if it helps, but I start to think that it's black magic
Thanks

Sorry for the delay in replaying but I've made several attempts with not specially good results.
Now I'm getting 24 hours battery with 2h SOC for WhatsApp and browsing. Furthermore, I use Bluetooth for the miband.
The battery drop from 100 to 90 still remains. Maybe it's smoother but significant.
I've changed battery, changed roms (several times wiping everything). I've tried battery calibration app from rooted devices. I've tried the calibration procedure for non root devices (here I think I've obtained a little bit of improvement) but in general I have the feeling my phone is not detecting well the capacity of the battery (either new or old). Any tip? Advice?. Could it be the charging circuit? Can it be fixed? Should I keep doing calibrations more often to see if I grasp more capacity little by little?
Thanks for your time and help