I don't know if its the phone or the app, but Google Play Music is using a lot of data. I have about 3300 songs uploaded, and a few hundred pinned to my device. I have "only download on wifi" checked and I don't have "stream high quality" checked, but its sitll using a lot. This morning, after streaming two songs, it had already used over 50mb. Yester it used almost 400mb to stream maybe 10 songs. Is this normal? I put it on shuffle and skip songs a lot, does it still use data when you skip songs? Anyone else having issues with this?
i only started using google play music a couple of weeks ago but also noticed it uses quite large amounts of data. I think it depends on the quality of the music being streamed back to you. With my collection most of it is in 320kbps so i expect quite large amounts of data to be used while streaming it to the device.
hope this helps.
I just don't see how when the songs are 5-6 mb each, it uses about 5 times that much data when I stream it
I have noticed that to. On a 40 minute journey it uses about 400-500mb of data and my limit is 1gb.
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Same thing, using the app for a day brought me 500MB, and I listened to maybe 50MB worth of stuff. Checking the app in data management that most of it is background downloading. Don't know what's causing this but it was happening before the recent update to the new google music. Not fun.
If it makes you feel any better, I've been streaming music on google music and to my amazement apparently used 77 GIGS on the music app according to my phone's data usage monitoring. This all happened in a matter of 24 hours. However, when checking my usage online with the carrier's website, all I see is <.5 GB for yesterday's usage. I'm at work so I can't post a screenshot, but it does leave room for thought on how our phone's data usage monitors data as opposed to our carriers.
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If it makes you feel any better, I've been streaming music on google music and to my amazement apparently used 77 GIGS on the music app according to my phone's data usage monitoring. This all happened in a matter of 24 hours. However, when checking my usage online with the carrier's website, all I see is <.5 GB for yesterday's usage. I'm at work so I can't post a screenshot, but it does leave room for thought on how our phone's data usage monitors data as opposed to our carriers.
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You aren't running CM RC3 are you?
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Yep. The Google music app eats up data like crazy. a 40 minute cruise would take up around 600mb of my data. Lucky I have unlimited data though.
Anyways, people have said that spotify and other streaming apps have a much lower data usage. You could try those instead.
1) check settings/google-account/name.gmail.com and check sync music is unchecked
2) if you are using a rom like carbon for example, the new dalvik cache system misreports data usage, check with your carrier for real stats.
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I9000 cannot play mp3 smoothly unless completely disable data network.
Does any feel that the I9000 cannot play mp3 smoothly?
It always has some pause (0.3~0.5 seconds) during play any mp3 even in 128 kbps CBR [around pause for 5-8 times in each 5 mins mp3]
I just found that, if GPRS/EDGE/3G(HSDPA) is turned on, this problem will be happened. That is no problem with Wifi.
One more, if you try to keep the Data connection e.g. downloading a large file via GPRS, that will be no problem as well.
I do thank that when any app/module want to access the Internet and "start" the data connection, this "start" will trigger the mp3 un-smooth problem.
Anyone playing with issue as well?
Am I alone?
Have no issues of the sort, FLAC and mp3s play flawlessly.
Stock rom, JF3, non-rooted, no ATK or taskkillers in general.
maybe your phone is sync-ing too much stuff in the background
try turning off Facebook, email sync, tweet sync, etc, etc
I played a lot of Flacs with mine and it did have tiny pauses now and then as you described. Sounded as if the cpu was busy (synching or doing something else) or maybe there was heavy I/O activity and we know the SGS isn't brilliant at that.... in any case, decoding lagged sometimes.
Still, the pauses were fractions of a second and fairly rare (perhaps once every 15 minutes or so). Audible, but tolerable given the overall good audio quality of the gadget.
I am new from i9000 and I have the similar issue.
Although I had disable all the network traffic (APN/WIFI) and I was only running the MP3 player, the song still played with some stop.
I had try lots of MP3 player apps, such as Astro player, TuneWiki, Kiss Music Player, MixZing, etc. No one can play song smoothly on my device.
Can anyone tell me how to improve it?
glitches if flac
Just another confirmation I've noticed the same issue with flacs on JG4. I get a glitch every 5 to 10 minutes. I've not listened to many mp3s so I don't know if it happens with them as well.
Yeah mines the same. Gets worse when the signal is dropping, almost useless when im on the train.
Contemplating about using my trusty itouch just to listen to music. Btw its unrooted with the one click lag fix
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Its the firmware, I have tried many since the phone came out and about 50% of the firmwares have this problem, songs fine but every few mins there is a tiny pause/skip or what you want to call it, I have just moved to jpc but not tried any music yet to see if this one has same issue, but seeing as most are leaked there is always going to be an issue with something, guess the time we can really complain is when the real 2.2 comes out, if that has problems then its fair to have a go at Samsung.
I've upgraded to JM2 now, and I still don't have any troubles with my music player. mp3s and FLAC, no skipping or anything. Just smooth.
Oh and btw, I play my music from the internal SD.
Same problem here on JM6 (with and without ryanZa lagfix) with mp3's and videos.
No matter if internal or external sd card. Glitches occur approx. every 3- 5 minutes.
I'm not sure but i think there were no problems with stock JF3 firmware.
Edit:
Flashed back to stock JF3.
Music is playing flawlessly.
solved... kind of
Found what was responsible for my problems with music and video playback.
D-Clock Widget by mt. On every minute change playback stutters.
So check your widgets and apps running (in the background)
greets,
nerv
Eww leak on a clock ...
hey there. Please check if you are scrobbling music on your phone through last.fm!
I had this problem too. I used many scrobblers same problem. I disabled it now
another thing to check
many music player software will automatically download lyrics and arbum arts to the phone, those can also slow down and make it sluggish
Solution is not existed under 2.1, but don't worry
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I9000 cannot play mp3 smoothly unless completely disable data network.
Does any feel that the I9000 cannot play mp3 smoothly?
It always has some pause (0.3~0.5 seconds) during play any mp3 even in 128 kbps CBR [around pause for 5-8 times in each 5 mins mp3]
I just found that, if GPRS/EDGE/3G(HSDPA) is turned on, this problem will be happened. That is no problem with Wifi.
One more, if you try to keep the Data connection e.g. downloading a large file via GPRS, that will be no problem as well.
I do thank that when any app/module want to access the Internet and "start" the data connection, this "start" will trigger the mp3 un-smooth problem.
Anyone playing with issue as well?
Am I alone?
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I'd like to change to I9000 and now I have HTC Desire, and I know what about you say. Under Eclair the garbage collection is terrible. Every garbage collection takes 0.1-3 secs, and then everything frezze.
Don't worry the Froyo will cure this - have to wait only 2-3 wks.
Does anyone else who uses PowerAmp have problems with playback hiccups? Doesn't do it all the time, but quite often. Especially likes to do it at about 2-3 seconds after a song starts when you'd skipped to a new track.
I use it regularly and don't have any problems with it.
I use it often also and have no problems.
Are you running on Froyo? I'm still on eclair if that makes a difference. I love Poweramp but the hiccups make it annoying enough to be unusable. Doesn't do it all the time and there aren't any problems with the stock music player.
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Are you running on Froyo? I'm still on eclair if that makes a difference. I love Poweramp but the hiccups make it annoying enough to be unusable. Doesn't do it all the time and there aren't any problems with the stock music player.
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I am stock. Maybe stupid question but have you updated to latest version? I saw something in the change log about fixing skipping.
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Yeah it says to adjust the audio buffer size if you have skipping. Although I have been using it since the first version came out and have never had a skipping problem. But give that a try and see if that works.
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I'm rooted stock. Tried messsing with the buffer setting and still does it. Must be another app that is messing with it. Got the latest version.
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Rooted stock also. Does it happen both on wifi and 3g/4g? Headphones, bluetooth and phone speaker? What audio format? I am all mp3 of various bitrates 128 and above. Sorry for so many questions just trying to help figuring it out.
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No 4g here, but does it over both wifi and 3G. All are mp3's of different bitrates, mostly 192-320kbps. It won't do it on all tracks and sometime not even the same track if I replay it, but most commonly in that 2-4 seconds in but will do it in the middle of the song at times. I uninstalled last.fm thinking it's scrobbling might be the culprit (even though I had it turned off) but still no help. The only other audio apps I have is Pandora, Tunein Radio and Audiogalaxy. Might try uninstalling those too to see if that fixes it.
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It's Android, I think. I expected better audio performance and got it compared to my old Touch Pro, due to better hardware and software. But the thing is I expect every audio player, even the stock ones, will do this sometimes, and my non-expert observations tell me that it's simply other phone processes interfering in memory and CPU. So with the right tools, I'd focus on IDing what those are, if that's possible.
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No 4g here, but does it over both wifi and 3G. All are mp3's of different bitrates, mostly 192-320kbps. It won't do it on all tracks and sometime not even the same track if I replay it, but most commonly in that 2-4 seconds in but will do it in the middle of the song at times. I uninstalled last.fm thinking it's scrobbling might be the culprit (even though I had it turned off) but still no help. The only other audio apps I have is Pandora, Tunein Radio and Audiogalaxy. Might try uninstalling those too to see if that fixes it.
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I have pandora and tune in also so I don't think those would be a problem. Like the post above me said try and eliminate all processes one at a time to see if you can find the problem.
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Did a factory reset and still does it. Doesn't appear to be just PowerAmp though as I tried using the stock player for a while and found it will do it sometimes as well. I'm guessing at this point it must be an issue with the SD card.
Damn that sucks. Sorry to hear that.
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I have the same problem. I've tried 3 different roms (including stock eclair) and it still shutters.
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I know exactly what it is. Whenever you lose 3G signal, any media playing with mute for approx 1 second. And when the signal returns, same thing. It's very annoying if you're listening to music in a dead area (I tend to listen to mine while I'm at work) and it sometimes cuts off during music, but only for about a second.
check and see your signal strength when you're listening to it and see if you're losing signal (via status bar) during these "skips".
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I know exactly what it is. Whenever you lose 3G signal, any media playing with mute for approx 1 second. And when the signal returns, same thing. It's very annoying if you're listening to music in a dead area (I tend to listen to mine while I'm at work) and it sometimes cuts off during music, but only for about a second.
check and see your signal strength when you're listening to it and see if you're losing signal (via status bar) during these "skips".
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That may explain the random ones that happen in the middle of a song. The ones that were occuring at the beginning of almost every song were what was driving me up the wall the most. I ended up reformatting my SDcard and it seems to have taken care of that problem. Still getting an occasional random one, but I get a really weak signal here at work, so I'll have to test it some more at home. I think you are dead on about it being a "mute" and not an actual skip of the song.
It's just annoying when a high end phone like this can't even play music back as well as some dumb feature phones. Maybe's it's an Android problem and not an Epic one in particular as I've seen some EVO posts of people experiencing the same thing.
Oh, and if I try to mess around on the internet through the browser it tears it up bad. Can't be simply the data connection because using apps like XDA and other apps that access the internet don't affect it at all, just the stock web browser.
Well I found something interesting that really affects it, screen brightness. I usually have my screen brightness set to manual and on the lowest setting. Right before this started happening I switched it to Auto and left it there since. Since the browser brightness has it's own setting switching back and forth really messed with it. Once I turned it back to manual and set both the browser and phone to low it rarely does it if at all, even while browsing. When I turned the browser setting back to high, then as soon as I click a link and it starts downloading it acts up. Weird. Seems like now it must be a power consumption issue as well if it's more likely to do it when the screen is brighter.
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I know exactly what it is. Whenever you lose 3G signal, any media playing with mute for approx 1 second. And when the signal returns, same thing. It's very annoying if you're listening to music in a dead area (I tend to listen to mine while I'm at work) and it sometimes cuts off during music, but only for about a second.
check and see your signal strength when you're listening to it and see if you're losing signal (via status bar) during these "skips".
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That doesn't seem to be caps problem because he said it does the same thing on wifi. Although I am assuming that there is a strong wifi signal.
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Been listening for the past hour with the brightness down and on manual and it's worked almost flawlessly.
I have done a ton of reading about this mediaserver process, but nobody seems to have a definitive fix.. (.nomedia file etc etc)
It is ALWAYS greater than my "google play music" app usage or "poweramp" when I play music and sometimes it goes rampant and is the highest usage... (see pic)
I know the phone up time is pretty good for that charge level, but the killer is I only listened to music for about half an hour..
It just grinds my gears that this relatively unknown process is all but useless to my needs (poweramp has it's own media library), but cant be stopped..
Is anybody able to shed some light on how to stop this process, even if it is a temp disable while poweramp is running or something?
Anyone else sick of mediaserver feel free to chime in..
Oh, and to make matters worse, my friends Galaxy SIII can stream BT music all day long and mediaserver uses about 3%...
Both his phone and my phone seem to have the same "keep awake" time, but his uses almost no battery.. What gives?
My N4 is stock 4.2.1 rooted and i have no files on it apart from one album in the music folder, no google music sync, no ringtones, no pics.. Nothing..
I had the exact same problem on my Nexus S too..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980575
It seems reasonable that corrupted media files is the cause. The phone might have scanned the damn file(s) over and over.
This might help.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwxLDEsImNvbS5hZGR6Lm1lZGlhc2Nhbm5lcnJvb3QiXQ
Edit: I also suggest changing the music player.
Try Apollo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1227099&d=1343478747
This (slightly outdated) version works better and less buggy than the one on Google Play.
Less features, less bugs.
I have the same worry, I think it uses too much juice for about 30 minutes of music. I use the default Google play music app though. Hopefully someone can help
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1) "Mediaserver" is allegedly using up a huge amount of battery
2) Your battery's at 39% after 29 hours
...these two things don't work together.
Here's what's probably happening: Android is misinterpreting something as being related to mediaserver alone when in fact it's only partially related or even unrelated altogether. This is probably caused by an app you've installed, but could just as easily be an actual bug causing Android is assigning too high a percentage to a small amount of real usage, that's all it is. In any case, if your battery has lasted 29 hours, you're not suffering from any kind of "battery-drain" condition.
IIRC, in Android the ability to request music playback is separated from the ability to actually play music for the purpose of allowing music to be automatically muted or have the volume reduced under certain circumstances (phone calls, voice navigation prompts, etc) and probably various other reasons people smarter than me would understand. This generic process that plays audio is called "media server". When your music player of choice plays music, it's probably outputting the audio via mediaserver for compatibility and usability reasons - so you see "Google Play Music" and "PowerAMP" down at a tiny percentage because they're doing very little to speak of as applications, while mediaserver is running continuously whenever audio is playing.
When an app uses a service, or a service uses an app, or a service uses another service, the "blame" for battery consumption often goes to the wrong place in this way. For example, you might also have "Android OS" being blamed for "Google Play Music" using wifi to stream music, and various other perplexing scenarios. You might have "Android System" at 50% battery usage when in fact Android by itself is doing very little - it's the things that work through "Android System" that are actually responsible.
Another good example is MX Player, which IIRC uses mediaserver in order to provide hardware decoding, but is still really the app to blame for that video needing to be decoded in the first place. Etc etc etc, bla bla bla.
What's your screen-on time? I'm guessing around 1.5 to 2.5 hours, right? You're doing fine. Worry less about statistics and more about observable reality.
TL;DR: Sh!t fewer bricks.
You know i got the exact same thing as you have except mine is "google service." In a way I'm kind of disappointed with this. I expected a lot better quality from Google. Especially when these things are running on stock straight from Google.
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1) "Mediaserver" is allegedly using up a huge amount of battery
2) Your battery's at 39% after 29 hours
...these two things don't work together.
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Thanks for the reply, and the information, but I still think something is not right... As I said before, ignore the long battery life as I have heaps of stuff turned off to try and investigate this bug..
I have previously played music all day over BT and had about 30% battery drain (70% left) which was about 60% mediaserver and 40% google play music.. This is perfectly fine for 5 or 6 hours of music playback... Google play music only.
However on this particular day for some reason I have 13% drain for 30 mins (21% of the 61% used) .. Something is not right.. I had not played music for the entire 28 hour period and mediaserver was nowhere to be seen in the usage stats, and then drove home with BT audio on, and BAM it's number one.. Using PowerAMP..
Perhaps the problem is with PowerAMP and how it handles the service?
Cheers, Tai
Bit of an update,
I ran the MP3 checker utility and found two corrupted, one of which was my ringtone!
I have since run the phone for two days and the mediaserver process has behaved itself and is just higher than the google play music app..
I still think that this needs to be fixed somehow, it shouldn't go pear shaped because one file is not 100%..
I got 2 days 10 hours on the last charge with over 1 hour of screen time and a few calls, dozens of sms's and emails, and music over bluetooth to and from work each day (3 trips)
Gotta be happy with that..
All right. Quick consideration. On my S2 there is a somewhat mediaserver that kind of drains the battery. The cause of this was the "sound when pressing" and "vibrate on press" (sry if translate isn't accurate) on sound settings.
In addition to that, make sure all vibrate and/or sound pressings on keyboards are disabled too.
Hope it helps.
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Taijohnsen said:
Bit of an update,
I ran the MP3 checker utility and found two corrupted, one of which was my ringtone!
I have since run the phone for two days and the mediaserver process has behaved itself and is just higher than the google play music app..
I still think that this needs to be fixed somehow, it shouldn't go pear shaped because one file is not 100%..
I got 2 days 10 hours on the last charge with over 1 hour of screen time and a few calls, dozens of sms's and emails, and music over bluetooth to and from work each day (3 trips)
Gotta be happy with that..
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What kind of mp3 checker utility?
:/
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I'm lucky to get 15 hours of battery life... How???
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First it was Google services, then Android OS, I got them both to behave, now it's Android Media Server, when I click on it, I do see Poweramp full unlock app there.
Not sure if it's poweramp though because a lot of people still say it isn't.
Any ideas?
If you're playing sounds at all it's going to be in use. It keeps your CPU awake to keep a song playing...
If you don't have any songs playing and it's awake, then it's bugged and you should reset the process.
Maybe I'm missing the point of this thread but it (this thread) seems rather off.
"Unknown process useless to my needs."
definitely need mediaserver to use your phone.
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"Unknown process useless to my needs."
definitely need mediaserver to use your phone.
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I thought that the process only scanned the phone for media, and wasn't needed, but now I know what it does.. I still think that it should not have this problem dealing with corrupt files..
This is the checker I used..
http://download.cnet.com/MP3-Checker/3000-2141_4-10543407.html
How 2 days??
I have all the location crap turned off and only sync email, contacts and calendar.. Other than that, my phone is stock (rooted)
The mp3 checker doesn't see my phone when it's mounted via usb, I assume you have to copy everything off the phone to your computer and scan from there. This could take a while.
I had a similar problem before. I posted a possible solution in this other thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35116498&postcount=8
First mediaserver, now the phone app?? wth.
I haven't even looked at the phone app today.
Having the same problem with Mediaserver, if I listen to a podcast on Doggcatcher I'm draining 15% per hour and battery stats show Mediaserver killing my battery. Listening to a podcast drains 15% per hour, it should hardly be draining anything. Simply listening to a podcast stored on my device takes more juice than browsing the Internet with the screen on, that's not right.
here's what i've done
# created a .nomedia file in every damn directory on the sdcard:
for d in `find /sdcard -type d`; do touch ${d}/.nomedia;done
#Then went through the directories which I wanted to allow Mediaserver to scan
#(DCIM/Pictures/Movies/Music etc...) and removed the .nomedia
for dir in DCIM Pictures Movies Music media subsonic; do find /sdcard/${dir} -name .nomedia|xargs rm;done
I'll let ya know if this changes anything.
Last night I saved about 3 albums from Google Music to save onto my phone. They are STILL downloading. My homes wifi is not that slow, any way I can find out why?
knitler said:
Last night I saved about 3 albums from Google Music to save onto my phone. They are STILL downloading. My homes wifi is not that slow, any way I can find out why?
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Downloading from the app is slow in general, it's not user side (took me about 9 hours to download 300 songs on my 18 Mbps connection). I'd recommend downloading using the PC client, then transferring the songs to your phone. Much faster that way, and you have direct access to your songs which means you can also play them from third-party apps.
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Ok I was worried that maybe the phones data was turning off when it went to sleep over night
Just want to get some input on what settings, etc that you have set for the best possible experience with kodi on the nexus player. For me it was running flawless until got the message cache full or something like that, so I started digging and found this http://androidpcreview.com/fix-kodi-buffering-problems-heres-how-to-modify-the-kodi-cache/2611/
And had the message go away but starting having shutter problems, so I enabled expert mode on kodi and set video to match monitor refresh rate and so far so good. Too early to tell. Also I disabled logging. Any other input would be greatly appreciated!
Run zero cache tweak and run the beast. It's the best kodi setup
http://youtu.be/Ah6QR2lyQhk
https://www.reddit.com/r/nexusplayer/comments/34ngg8/kodi_cache_buffer_settings_from_kodi_website/
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Run zero cache tweak and run the beast. It's the best kodi setup
http://youtu.be/Ah6QR2lyQhk
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I've read that the zero cache tweak will wear out your flash memory, which will render your device useless. Due to that I've never tried it. I only get buffering issues on 1080p content though.
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I've read that the zero cache tweak will wear out your flash memory, which will render your device useless. Due to that I've never tried it. I only get buffering issues on 1080p content though.
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I've been using zero cache for a while and my nexus is running like a champ.
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I've been using zero cache for a while and my nexus is running like a champ.
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Any buffering issues with 1080p content?? My ISP is Comcast and I get 75 Mbps down. Haven't tested the speed on the NP cause I don't know how, but I would think that is a fast enough connection to not get buffering like I do. I also have it on a 5Ghz connection.
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Any buffering issues with 1080p content?? My ISP is Comcast and I get 75 Mbps down. Haven't tested the speed on the NP cause I don't know how, but I would think that is a fast enough connection to not get buffering like I do. I also have it on a 5Ghz connection.
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A lot of it depends on the source. If you get a good 1080p stream it will run fine.
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Noticed on there it says read buffer factor 20, think it would totally freeze the nexus player, though from reading lil more might bump mine from 1.5 to 2. Some streams run well, while some I have had shuttering video, def keeping my eyes on which sources have been good, I've had 1080p run like a champ with some and 720 run choppy
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Run zero cache tweak and run the beast. It's the best kodi setup
http://youtu.be/Ah6QR2lyQhk
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I too had read zero cache has caused problems, but if you have been running it for while, what the hell lol. Drive fails I'll figure out how to replace with another ssd
Right! I'm not trying to pass this nexus off to my children lol. By the time I end up having problems I'll be onto the nexus 2 or nexus 3.
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I've been using zero cache for a while and my nexus is running like a champ.
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It's not recommended to use zero cache for small box devices as they are very limited on storage. I've experience 100% storage used when using it on Amazon Fire Tv box, reset setup again and worked a week or two then bam 100% storage used again. whats worse in aftv if this happens only way to recover is to reset. after doing this the second time and setting things up i DID NOT use the script running perfect no issues!!
also have the NP i have read around other places that zero cache is not to be used on these devices!! for the same results 100% storage usage.
zero cache is to download whatever file is streamed so if the file is 3 GB your more then likely screwed. regular settings download much much less at a time thus not surpassing storage space
also zero cache works more for pausing a stream as it will continue to download x file with no limits these little boxes need limits vs setting limits when paused for extended times the stream will break due to cache filling up, this is the only reason to use zero cache settings to pause for extended periods of time. this is why for most people you can only pause for very short periods without the stream breaking
a side note this is also the reason when watching something and it just stops, its because you got a fast link and cache fills up thus breaking the link.
if your experiencing buffering then likely its a very slow link, and sometimes your ISP however more than likely the link. nothing is wrong with original settings in kodi
if your streaming your media within your network and are having buffering issues you have network issues within your own equipment/network.
good luck
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It's not recommended to use zero cache for small box devices as they are very limited on storage. I've experience 100% storage used when using it on Amazon Fire Tv box, reset setup again and worked a week or two then bam 100% storage used again. whats worse in aftv if this happens only way to recover is to reset. after doing this the second time and setting things up i DID NOT use the script running perfect no issues!!
also have the NP i have read around other places that zero cache is not to be used on these devices!! for the same results 100% storage usage.
zero cache is to download whatever file is streamed so if the file is 3 GB your more then likely screwed. regular settings download much much less at a time thus not surpassing storage space
also zero cache works more for pausing a stream as it will continue to download x file with no limits these little boxes need limits vs setting limits when paused for extended times the stream will break due to cache filling up, this is the only reason to use zero cache settings to pause for extended periods of time. this is why for most people you can only pause for very short periods without the stream breaking
a side note this is also the reason when watching something and it just stops, its because you got a fast link and cache fills up thus breaking the link.
if your experiencing buffering then likely its a very slow link, and sometimes your ISP however more than likely the link. nothing is wrong with original settings in kodi
if your streaming your media within your network and are having buffering issues you have network issues within your own equipment/network.
good luck
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Thanks for the info, ya havnt paused for long periods with zero cache enabled, with the standard setting in kodi I was getting cache full error messages after the first few days of use, it was working perfect up until that point..... Maybe with standard setting, every few days enter maintenance menu add-on and manually clear cache, think I might try that. If that works, than I'll just make a tasker profile that launches kodi and enters the menu and clears the cache, every morning g at lime 4am lol
Showtime_III said:
I've been using zero cache for a while and my nexus is running like a champ.
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raptor170 said:
Thanks for the info, ya havnt paused for long periods with zero cache enabled, with the standard setting in kodi I was getting cache full error messages after the first few days of use, it was working perfect up until that point..... Maybe with standard setting, every few days enter maintenance menu add-on and manually clear cache, think I might try that. If that works, than I'll just make a tasker profile that launches kodi and enters the menu and clears the cache, every morning g at lime 4am lol
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the cache full should not be an error msg, its letting you know the set cache limit has been reached,
meaning usually if paused or buffering etc.
i experience this with more sd links starting out slow, it buffers, get cache full message video resumes, sometimes it will repeat, sometimes the video just stops, again if the link is going alot faster than you are streaming the cache fills thus breaking the link in turn video just stops. this would be another reason to use zero cache settings, however if you do not have storage expanded on the device its not a good idea to use zero settings. much less if you are streaming HD content links
i have noticed that some files streamed stay hung in the cache, from my understanding the cache of the file should auto dump, in cases in zero cache settings this does not happen, the reason the file's link for whatever reason broke thus not completing, so it stays in storage and not dumping.. this was the case with my aftv and the outcome of 100% storage used, also clearing/using the supposed cache script after these events did not work, so i do not know where the file/files where being stored and aftv does not like 100% storage used period. Can not say how the NP reacts to 100% storage used as i do not use the zero cache settings on this device
to many people are confused what zero cache settings does and what its for
also in zero cache you will never get cache full message as there is no limit.
Exactly. Using the clear cache tools inside of kodi doesn't work for me either. Every week or so, I'll go into nexus settings/apps/kodi/force stop and clear cache. Never had a problem.
Its strange sometimes the player is good sometimes it has troubles buffering, I've also used kodi on my computer that is in the same room. Also on WiFi and picked the exact same link and source and it was buffering like a damn champ..... I find rebooting the nexus player seems to clear things up, I'm suspecting that since we don't really have a recent apps screen that when my kids go play games etc on the nexus player, its being stored in the background eating up the precious ram space thus creating very little room for buffer when not using zero cache. Might try taking off zero cache and create a tasker profile that will kill certain apps (all the games, YouTube etc.) Upon launch on kodi...... I'll report back how it goes
fwiw kodi 16 jarvis is finalized and the GNP running android 6.0.1 can still benefit from loading this xml file.
I put it on my google drive, then copied it over to local storage on the player using es file explorer.
I stream local 1080p content over a 5ghz N connection and the router is in the same room as the player.