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Moto mde a stament http://sourceforge.net/motorola/atrix/discussion/general_comments/thread/9f80b745/
gb source by 7/29
So with the official 4.5.91 finally being populated to everyone through regular channels (not our awesome quicker than the maker methods ). We gain the right to demand from motorola to release the source, as according to GPL, if someone ask for the source they must release it.
Thanks joe for finding all the info on the specific lincese
Android Open Source Project license
http://source.android.com/source/licenses.html
GPL http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
GPL V2 http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html
LGPL http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/lesser.html
Apache License V2 http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
ubuntu licensing http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/licensing
Q: Why should I care if moto releases the source or not?
A: Do you want AOSP rom, and CM7, maybe MIUI. all of this are dependent on the source. otherwise is super mega complicated to create them. And available source guarantees more devs.
So what is the plan?
Simple, the plan is to demand the source, a lot, A LOT! So they dont pull the same stunt they did with 4.1.83 update. The source for that became available last week!
So we are going to do this 2 ways! The official way, and the troll way.
The official method to request source is by writing a letter to motorola mobile to the following address.
Motorola Mobility, INC.
OSS Management
600 North US hwy 45
Libertyville, IL
60048, USA
The letter of course:
I ___________ write to request the release of the source code for the following software:
The 4.5.91 firmware update for motorola Atric 4g, the webtop included in the update, and any particular software included in this update that follows GPL licensing.
The second method, the troll way. Is simply to flood the motorola forums and requested there!
Tell everyone about this effort, we need source code right away!
on twitter use this hashtag #tsib #gpl
I love these ****ing topic names lmao
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neer2005 said:
I love these ****ing topic names lmao
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Me to haha i dont even have the atrix but saw this as soon as i opened the xda app haha but HTC is pulling the same **** with the evo. We got this damn ota like a month and a half ago and we still dont have the ****ing source
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samcripp said:
So with the official 4.5.91 finally being populated to everyone through regular channels (not our awesome quicker than the maker methods ). We gain the right to demand from motorola to release the source, as according to GPL, if someone ask for the source they must release it.
Q: Why should I care if moto releases the source or not?
A: Do you want AOSP rom, and CM7, maybe MIUI. all of this are dependent on the source. otherwise is super mega complicated to create them. And available source guarantees more devs.
So what is the plan?
Simple, the plan is to demand the source, a lot, A LOT! So they dont pull the same stunt they did with 4.1.83 update. The source for that became available last week!
So we are going to do this 2 ways! The official way, and the troll way.
The official method to request source is by writing a letter to motorola mobile to the following address.
Motorola Mobility, INC.
OSS Management
600 North US hwy 45
Libertyville, IL
60048, USA
The letter of course:
I ___________ write to request the release of the source code for the following software:
The 4.5.91 firmware update for motorola Atric 4g, the webtop included in the update, and any particular software included in this update that follows GPL licensing.
The second method, the troll way. Is simply to flood the motorola forums and requested there!
Tell everyone about this effort, we need source code right away!
on twitter use this hashtag #tsib #gpl
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Do we flood the Motorola support tread? Or their Dev tread? I'm on board.
Gr8Danes said:
Do we flood the Motorola support tread? Or their Dev tread? I'm on board.
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the dev thread!
Link to the dev tread anyone?
Sam,
Are you taking initiative to write a letter to Motorola? If you do, I'm sure the XDA community would be obliged to take care of the flooding.
mpalatsi said:
Sam,
Are you taking initiative to write a letter to Motorola? If you do, I'm sure the XDA community would be obliged to take care of the flooding.
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well considering i took the initiative to spread the word of finding the unlock, and then my handle got submited to a few international gadget sites as responsible for finding the unlock from the test servers. maybe writing to moto myself could be a bad idea. i def dont want to face any legal problems. but i will encourage anyone who wants to write them to do so, ill even write the letter and paste it for you guys, a stamp is only 45 cents!
Please some direction to help, @ or#
Swyped from 'mount' Olympus
Going on dev forum now, commence troll method.
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https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/54476 in the support tread too.
Lemme first be a little polite.
Dear Motorola,
You have already done your best to turn the Atrix into a dead bird. The GS2 and G2X have better fan following because you locked the bootloader, now we request you to release the source of the GB update ASAP so we can get to work with the code and bring some CM magic to the Atrix
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Where in the Dev forums do you post? Can someone link?
Edit: here is the link for those that would like to add
https://sourceforge.net/motorola/atrix/discussion/
is it possible to build AOSP on a beta source? ... cuz befor 2 days they release 2.3 to beta testers
I've also started trolling their Developers facebook page. You guys should help me.
http://www.facebook.com/motodev?sk=wall
this does not apply to only folks on att, international users need to help to get source as well. we can compile cm for everyone globaly if we get this source. so please lets make an effort everybody!
T-t-t-t-trollin' everywhere I can
Joe did a bit of research and found every license moto has to comply with!
Android Open Source Project license
http://source.android.com/source/licenses.html
GPL http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
GPL V2 http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html
LGPL http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/lesser.html
Apache License V2 http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
ubuntu licensing http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/licensing
Sounds uneducated and stupid.
Rikuumi said:
Sounds uneducated and stupid.
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What does?
I recently asked SamsungExynos on twitter whether they are fulfilling their promise by releasing source code or not. As usual, I did not expect any reply from them.
Today, they replied me on my twitter
" @rahulzeven The decision to release sources is not only ours to make & depends on device manufacturers. We're working to resolve this issue. "
They them selves are the device manufacturer. Why the hell do they need permission from themselves? Are we going to see sources of Exynos being released?
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Hi,
Please visit the following link and sign the petition for Honor 6 Lollipop kernel source code. We need to get as many people to sign this petition as possible. So please share it with your friends and other Honor smartphone users. If Huawei releases the sources we'll be able to request developers to make CM12.1 for Honor 6. And based on that other custom ROMS will be possible. Currently we are running EMUI3.0 or 3.1 which doesn't have a hint of beautiful material design.
I believe it is possible for us to make Huawei release the sources because they had earlier released Kitkat sources.
So go ahead and sign the petition.
http://pantomath.xyz/huawei-honor-6-lollipop-kernel-source-code-petition/
signed and hoping that huawei sees the light
I did it!
Well, worth a try.
Fully functional cm would be so awesome!
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I have to tried to build cm12.1 but i run into some errors. I'm using a prebuilt kernel as i don't have the sources. Let's hope huawei will release the sources.
Done !! :good:
firmado!!
Done
Done, but it's too late for me, its my first and last honor phone, i love too much xda forums and stock rom for that kind of closed phone. MB
Ya somos 103 firmas!
470 people viewed this post and we don't have half the number of supporters. We are not asking for anyone's money. It won't take more than a minute to sign the petition. Share the link in your respective country's Huawei and Honor social networking pages.
shubh_007 said:
470 people viewed this post and we don't have half the number of supporters. We are not asking for anyone's money. It won't take more than a minute to sign the petition. Share the link in your respective country's Huawei and Honor social networking pages.
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You ha e to understand that not only are these devices only available in a few places of the world, but also this company is based out of china which means the petition won't mean a thing. They are not forced to uphold copyrights or the GPL.
zelendel said:
the petition won't mean a thing
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Agreed. I would not bother to spend a second on it.
In my opinion you are wasting your time... huawei does not release the source for all the stuff that is required to cook a custom rom for the kirin platform. They only release part of the kernel souce code but not all the other stuff...
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If developers have source code, they will make 100% functional roms. I try sending multiple times emails to LeEco asking for this, but the server always give me spam reply. Because of that I've created a thread in LeEco forum.
Please help doing a coment and voting in the poll.
This is the link to the thread: http://forum.le.com/in/index.php?threads/source-code-for-lemax2.14951/
Regards.
IMPORTANT UPDATE! Now we have a petition in change.org to do the max press possible to the brand. And the signs are for ALL the devices with Qualcomm processors.
Here it is!: https://www.change.org/p/leeco-letv...ents_action_panel_wrapper&utm_medium=copylink
great specs but the development is not so good. if they only release the sources.
Someone mentioned that they are releasing sources in September.
sanke1 said:
Someone mentioned that they are releasing sources in September.
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Yup, in the official forum, but who knows if is true or a fake...?
I read that they are selling these phones at less than cost as a loss leader to sell people their content services. If so, I very much doubt they are interested in supporting the dev community as that makes it easier for people to get rid of their apps and services from the devices.
We need to achieve that fast!!
Did you get source code from Le? Why don't you share for us?
Anyone has updates about the source code questions?
I didn't find any update on the change.org site.
BTW' we need more votes!!
I sign!
More people need to sign!!
does anyone confirm source code release soon???
i signed.
Signed.
I got response but still no plan for releasing...
https://twitter.com/LeEcoGlobal/status/782992367280422913
I have not (yet) bought the phone b/c there will be no proper development in the absence of a source code release. I will probably go for the Axon 7 although I would like to have a bigger screen. (I will also not buy the Le Pro 3 although it is an interesting phone. Developer-unfriendly phone companies like LeEco are an absolute no-go for me. So sad ... )
Signed
Every tweet they post about their USA launch should get a comment about how their crappy source code policy is...
I doubt they will release the source code
Do not purchase le Max2. Most of the phones have finger print sensor issues.
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mikeysteele said:
Every tweet they post about their USA launch should get a comment about how their crappy source code policy is...
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Yup, do it guys. I will put it in my petition, that people send tweets with that.
Do you have new news about letv's codes? Why didn't share with us about it?
Maybe the US launch change something I really like the phone my fingerprint has no issue except some times unresponsive but I only had it for a month LOL so fingers crossed
Maybe they'll release the source code and the worth of this phone will double
Hi Guys,
yesterday i sent an email to Huawei if or when they release the kernel for our phone. I don't know if there is some other news but here's my mail.
CodeRR said:
Hi Guys,
yesterday i semt an email to Huawei if or when they release the kernel for our phone. I don't know if there is some other news but here's my mail.
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hi
nice they write huawei in an other way
greetz benji
LOL well spotted
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I guess that answers my own question. The Mate 9 is going back.
That decision is counter to the Written Offer that is stated within the phone itself, under Settings>About Phone>Legal Information>Open Source Licenses.
I've emailed Huawei two times using the email address provided in the above section and haven't received a response yet. I think they cannot legally proceed without publishing the kernel source.
The kernel source is even listed in the written offer text.
So they're breaking the GNU GPL. Nice...
@hondajohn88 @ante0
Your arguments are in my opinion very strong. I'll give them a call in the next days! Updates coming.
Edit: I've send them a new mail with the screenshot provided by @hondajohn88. Updates will follow.
CodeRR said:
Hi Guys,
yesterday i sent an email to Huawei if or when they release the kernel for our phone. I don't know if there is some other news but here's my mail.
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The csr spelled Huawei wrong, why would anyone think they know anything that's going on ?
CodeRR said:
@hondajohn88 @ante0
Your arguments are in my opinion very strong. I'll give them a call in the next days! Updates coming.
Edit: I've send them a new mail with the screenshot provided by @hondajohn88. Updates will follow.
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It could just be that they won't publish it on their site. But you should still be able to request it and they must comply. Unless they're doing a Xiaomi and just delay it for eternity.
So I got back mail from Huawei.
I think he's trying to tell me that every kernel is the same from the source, but I quite don't understand this sentence...
CodeRR said:
So I got back mail from Huawei.
I think he's trying to tell me that every kernel is the same from the source, but I quite don't understand this sentence...
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Unfortunately, but this is biggest problem of brand-companies. Every department knows only about self. Every region does not know what HQ is doing. If HQ told that this file must be placed on regional site, regional-IT will do it. But they never will ask this file from HQ first.
I have worked out the confusion here. The Huawei rep is believing the OP is after the kernel as in the built kernel included in the software not the source code. Try re-phrasing the email and include the words source code
If someone speaks Chinese they should send an email requesting the kernel source code from Huawei of China.
They are forced to release the kernel source code by Agreement with Google.
BUT Huawei doesn't release it unless it's being requested, but THEY MUST if they got request for it
LastStandingDroid said:
They are forced to release the kernel source code by Agreement with Google.
BUT Huawei doesn't release it unless it's being requested, but THEY MUST if they got request for it
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I requested it a couple of weeks ago, still no answer from them.
Going to send a new email now.
This is my exact wording, which should be enough. Maybe I should change 'request' to 'demand... or else'.
"I would hereby like to request the Linux Kernel source code (including modifications) for my Huawei Mate 9 (MHA, Android 7.0, EMUI 5.0) in accordance with the GNU General Public License v2 section 2.
A download link is fine.
The current "download" link on your site simply links to a readme.txt file which tells me to email you to request the source code."
Edit: And sent. Included full model now too (MHA-L29C432). But I will probably not get an answer.
Heh. Excellent.
At least they have to answer some direct questions.
We want sources, no answers.
Has anyone tried emailing Google directly stating that Huawei is failing to abide by GNU General Public License v2 section 2 and see if they can assist?
Just trying to think outside the box...
Crazypinoy9 said:
Has anyone tried emailing Google directly stating that Huawei is failing to abide by GNU General Public License v2 section 2 and see if they can assist?
Just trying to think outside the box...
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They are =working on it.
How much they work on it is another story. Maybe their upload speed is 10kb/s idk
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If not release in next month I'm switching phones... this is the whole point of android for me.
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