Are any left handers very dis-satisfied with the way the nexus 4 was designed? I was using a Samsung Galaxy S2 before which also had the power button on the right side and volume on left, but with the nexus 4 design i can barely press the power button to turn it on and usually end up hitting the volume buttons. And 4.2 OS is very right hand centrist as well with the the more options button on the top right corner. With the phone slightly larger than my S2, my right thumb usually can't even reach it comfortably that i have to use my right hand to hit the button. Like i said, I was fine with the S2 and my previous Samsung Transformer, but I'm just not liking 4.2 and the phone itself.
Also, with 4.2 I can't swype a website and end with .com because the .com ends up spaced after the domain name. The swype ends up being lajollamusic .com which is an issue. On the nexus 7, there's a ".com" button I can press, but not on the nexus 4 =(
Ultimately, am I the only left hander that is having trouble with the nexus 4?
jawxin said:
Are any left handers very dis-satisfied with the way the nexus 4 was designed? I was using a Samsung Galaxy S2 before which also had the power button on the right side and volume on left, but with the nexus 4 design i can barely press the power button to turn it on and usually end up hitting the volume buttons. And 4.2 OS is very right hand centrist as well with the the more options button on the top right corner. With the phone slightly larger than my S2, my right thumb usually can't even reach it comfortably that i have to use my right hand to hit the button. Like i said, I was fine with the S2 and my previous Samsung Transformer, but I'm just not liking 4.2 and the phone itself.
Also, with 4.2 I can't swype a website and end with .com because the .com ends up spaced after the domain name. The swype ends up being lajollamusic .com which is an issue. On the nexus 7, there's a ".com" button I can press, but not on the nexus 4 =(
Ultimately, am I the only left hander that is having trouble with the nexus 4?
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Being left handed myself, the only thing that bothers me is usually the settings key or whatever it might be called in the top right corner (it's usually 3 square boxes stacked on top of one another). I don't much care for that. I don't have problems myself with the power button because my left index finger reaches it with no problem. Another thing that can be a problem is when your in landscape mode and the navigation bar is on the right side of the screen. I wouldn't mind being able to have the option to switch it to the left side. Also the default keyboard isn't swype. For the most part it performs somewhat like swype, but it's not swype that's why the problems with the .com. I have the same problem with it. You should be able to download swype from swype.com and install it. You might have to register on the site to be able to get it.
awtacular said:
Being left handed myself, the only thing that bothers me is usually the settings key or whatever it might be called in the top right corner (it's usually 3 square boxes stacked on top of one another). I don't much care for that. I don't have problems myself with the power button because my left index finger reaches it with no problem. Another thing that can be a problem is when your in landscape mode and the navigation bar is on the right side of the screen. I wouldn't mind being able to have the option to switch it to the left side. Also the default keyboard isn't swype. For the most part it performs somewhat like swype, but it's not swype that's why the problems with the .com. I have the same problem with it. You should be able to download swype from swype.com and install it. You might have to register on the site to be able to get it.
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Thanks for the confirmation. Yes I have issues reaching the 3 square boxes button. And i agree with the landscape mode, which the S2 didn't have because I can swing it to the left side. For swyping, I wasn't necessarily referring to Samsung's patented version, but google's version of it. I want to support google and try to use the function, but inputting websites ending in .com is such a pain. I may as well just type it out instead >.>
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Thanks for the confirmation. Yes I have issues reaching the 3 square boxes button. And i agree with the landscape mode, which the S2 didn't have because I can swing it to the left side. For swyping, I wasn't necessarily referring to Samsung's patented version, but google's version of it. I want to support google and try to use the function, but inputting websites ending in .com is such a pain. I may as well just type it out instead >.>
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You have to do what makes you more comfortable. If not liking a function on the default keyboard is making you not like the device then fix it and download swype. I actually just did install it on my phone after I replied here. I like being able to select different themes for the keyboard, which is another plus for swype. I myself like Samsung and will still support them. It's the apple trash I won't support.
It's a massive device that has to pick whether to be comfortable for either right handers or left handers, and right handers hold the majority
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It's a massive device that has to pick whether to be comfortable for either right handers or left handers, and right handers hold the majority
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The phone is not that massive and the actual developer should be able to make options to mirror interfaces and actual buttons via settings. If some of the "independent" developers on here and other places can figure out ways to manipulate the device to work in such ways you would think the actual designers/developers of the phone would implement the features themselves. I'm not saying in any way the Nexus 4 is flawed because this problem applies to almost every phone. There should be a way to mirror controls either via soft keys or hard button.
I'm also left handed, but it doesn't bother me much. I will say this though, I've found that when swiping on the keyboard I get a lot less errors when I use the phone right handed, especially swiping "p" words.
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Shutup Flanders!
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Shutup Flanders!
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In other news, The Leftorium will have stock of the N4 starting next week!
I have a .com ........ using SwiftKey Flow
Buhahahaha
RIGHT POWER!
It's a sinister plot.
I'm a right handed person, but have always used Android phones with my left hand. I feel like they are left hand favored, but not intentionally.
I didn't consciously decide that my left hand was better for navigation and general use, but over the years, my usage seemed better with my left hand and I gradually became a left hand user.
The only time I'll use my right hand is if I'm laying on my right side.
I just moved from the original atrix, which had a center power button, and left side volume rocker, and yes. The nexus 4 is keeping the southpaw down. I went on a hike yesterday, and realized I couldn't take a landscape photo with my girlfriend because the shutter button slides to the right side no matter how you turn the phone. Same thing with the nav bar, though usually the only reason to turn the phone landscape is if I'm using it with both hands, so not a big deal there. But yes, also the phone is now too big to hit the new menu button with my thumb without my palm pressing the lower left part of the screen... I bought the nexus for a pure Google Android experience, but I'm definitely ditching stock for cyanogenmod.
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I was just wondering why they've changed the Galaxy's big center button in the carrier versions? Just so they can fit the ugly carrier logos somewhere...?
Maybe because I am used to the iPhone, I find the 4-button array on most Android phones much more awkward than a center Home button.
Even the Back button is annoying, since I usually operate the phone with one hand, and have to twist my thumb all the way down and to the right, every time I need to go back. It's so much more user friendly to have soft Back button in the upper left corner of the screen.
Ergonomically, the 4-button thing is a step backward - you have to take your eyes off the screen, and in the dark you have to hunt and peck and wait for them to light up.
Just curious how others feel?
I was curious whether the buttons are easy to trigger by accident.
On my Nexus S and the Focus, there is a subtle upward curve at the bottom of the phone. This small lip seems to prevent a lot of accidental presses of the capacitive buttons.
In my experiences with a completely flat face phone (the HD7), accidentally pressing the capqcitive buttons was extremely common and annoying. I like the looks of the Omnia 7 more than the Focus, but if it leads to similar problems as the HD7 (always pressing the buttons by accident) then I'd rather go with the focus.
For me that's one of the most annoying things about the phone. I hit the search button all the time.. But some say there will be a firmware update to fix that.
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For me that's one of the most annoying things about the phone. I hit the search button all the time.. But some say there will be a firmware update to fix that.
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That's exactly what used to happen to me with my HD7. When I held the phone part of my thumb would be on the bezel and it would hit the search button. Also, when I held the phone in landscape my finger would also hit it.
With the Nexus S I don't run into this problem because the bottom is curved a bit. I've also played with the Focus a bit and it seems to have this slight curve at the bottom as well.
yup same thing here, this is when I spend time try to browse through apps and use my phone when it was still new. now i got the hang of it, and i dont really fiddle it as much as before now, just a basic need. and i got what a really wanted, fast and responsive phone.
As a left-hander, the S-Pen SUCKS.
I've set the phone to left-handed, but that isn't the issue.
The phone expects the user to hold the pen at an angle away from the user, and that's where the screen registers.
However, many left handers hold their pens at an angle TOWARDS themselves, and the S-Pen is off by nearly HALF A CM!!
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As a left-hander, the S-Pen SUCKS.
I've set the phone to left-handed, but that isn't the issue.
The phone expects the user to hod the pen at an angle away from the user, and that's where the screen registers.
However, many left handers hold their pens at an angle TOWARDS themselves, and the S-Pen is off by nearly HALF A CM!!
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Tell me about it...
It's so irritating
are you sure you got it in left hand mode? i have mine set to my left hand and tried writing with my right. was off like you said (to the right). tried again with my left hand and it seemed fine.
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are you sure you got it in left hand mode? i have mine set to my left hand and tried writing with my right. was off like you said (to the right). tried again with my left hand and it seemed fine.
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I have it set to left handed.
When changing the settings to right-handed and using my right hand (I'm a little ambidextrous) it works fine. Nice and accurate. Mostly because with my right hand I hold the pen at a conventional angle.
However, many lefties don't hold their pens conventionally (habits picked up by the necessity of avoiding ring bindings, minimising smudging, etc). Look at how President Obama holds his pen:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/images/200901/20090126ho_lefthandedobama_330.jpg
See how the nib of the pen is angled TOWARDS him? The Note thinks it's angled away and puts down a line in totally the wrong place.
Even with my slightly less unconventional left-handed pen hold, it's WAY out (no matter whether the unit is set to left or right hand use, though left is slightly less awful).
How hard can it be for Samsung to provide a calibration app?
Right now, the Note is a phone unsuitable for a President!
Do you find any difference when you change the screen orientation then back again?
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Do you find any difference when you change the screen orientation then back again?
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None at all, unfortunately.
I find that no matter what I do with the pen it always seems to write half a cm above where I have contact on the screen
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SPen uses autocalibration feature, which unfortunately goes off after some time. Which is a bug by itself but not the point..
Everyone complaining about pen being way off try this:
set it to whatever your hand preference. Please phone on flat surface like a table and reboot phone. Do not shake or touch it too much. Open SNote and try to draw around grid lines, you will see that pen works perfectly with tip being exactly as expected.
However more you use pen more it will deviate off until reboot is needed. It happens especially fast if you are using it walking, upside down etc.
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SPen uses autocalibration feature, which unfortunately goes off after some time. Which is a bug by itself but not the point..
Everyone complaining about pen being way off try this:
set it to whatever your hand preference. Please phone on flat surface like a table and reboot phone. Do not shake or touch it too much. Open SNote and try to draw around grid lines, you will see that pen works perfectly with tip being exactly as expected.
However more you use pen more it will deviate off until reboot is needed. It happens especially fast if you are using it walking, upside down etc.
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Interesting (though it didn't help in my case)
But it the calibration goes off after time, then there is even more reason to add a calibration facility.
I reckon that only happens when you're using landscape orientation and then you turn off autorotation without first returning to portrait orientation. Try turning autorotation on, setting it to portrait and then turn it off. That should fix it.
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Thanks, but it really is nothing to do with orientation in my case.
It's ALL about the angle at which you hold the S-pen.
It expects the nib to be angled away from you, whereas I hold a pen with the nib angled towards me.
One of the interesting features of kl7 firmware is something I've been suggesting for a while - a one handed keyboard.
Its the size of the 4.6 inch keyboard (i think) and you can align it to the left or right side depending on what hand you type with.
So I'm curious now - do you like it? I still prefer to two hand the note. I suck at typing tho.
I have not tried one handed. I like the size of the full sized keyboard and typing with two hands too much on the GNote to even try it!
I tried it, just to see what it looks like, but switched back to standard keyboard afterwards. Even though my hands are quite big, while holding the phone with my right hand, I was still only _just_ able to press the far-left column with my thumb, and the accuracy of tapping while holding the Note with the same hand is worse.
Besides, the phone is also quite big to hold comfortably using just one hand - after a while it gets uncomfortable. And the full-width keyboard is great and the button size suits me well.
Hey Everyone,
I do this every now and then, wondering if everyone else does.
Let's say I'm using the phone one handed, web browsing or something and I need to reach a button on the opposite bottom corner.
Rather than stretch across the screen, I just rotate the phone 90 degrees for a second. The screen rotates, and the button is now directly under my thumb. I click it, rotate back and move on.
Yes, the Note still sucks sometimes as a one handed phone, but this does help out every now and then.
- Frank
oh thanks nice idea
another way is to curl your finger around the back of the phone...I did try this, and looks really funny if you're watching from afar
I guess I just have big hands. The way I hold the phone, I can touch everything to the right of the blue line.
Ha.. same here. I've got big hands too. One overseas colleague once asked me if that is a S2 I'm holding.
If I'm holding the phone, you can only see 1/4 of it from the back. And only 1 cm separates my thumb to the closest finger when I hold it.
This is particularly useful if you're reading in landscape.
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another trick for zooming during browsing with the stock samsung browser is to simulate 2 fingers. usually you can zoom in and out by putting them on the screen and overturn the phone.
so instead of using to fingers, just put your thumb on the left side of the screen, so that a small part of your palm touches the screen on the right, which simulates an input^^
i hope u understood what i mean
I never hold my phone 1 handed. I'm too afraid of dropping it. But I'll try your advice if I ever need to