I am reposting this from here in this thread.
If any other artists could comment from their own observations regarding the pressure levels, that would be very appreciated!
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I'm a little frustrated with my stylus. Some people are saying they can get theirs so sensitive it writes without actually touching the screen, but no matter what, I have to put some amount of pressure to get light touches... then it jumps in pressure too quickly for my liking. It's hard to be precise in Sketchbook Pro and I'm used to Wacom technology... I've owned Graphires (old school Bamboos), Intuoses, you name it. I'm used to being able to lay down light strokes, low pressure with low opacity and then using dropper tool to blend... for the Note 10., this is really difficult.
I adjusted the nobs, but it's not doing any good. Does the range or effect change per person? I'm thinking of actually calling Samsung and seeing if I can get another stylus out of them to try. This is driving me bonkers. Besides that, everything is perfect. For sketching it is fine, but that's just for sketching... painting or rendering is a pain because of this pressure issue.
It would be so helpful if there was a diagnostic tool that reported back the numbers that the pen was sending. There is on the actual Wacom tablets themselves, you can see how much pressure is applied and diagnose accordingly. I've had faulty pens before that I've had exchanged and it's fixed the issue.
I changed the nib too and that seemed to help, but I think the nib settled and it's still difficult to get steady light pressure without wrist strain.
I don't expect Intuos quality, but I expect something relatively close to a Bamboo level. Maybe not the same responsiveness,... But if it boasts 1024 pressure levels, it'd be nice to actually use those levels. I've used multiple apps... S-note, LayerPaint, LectureNotes, Sketchbook Pro... you name it. Still happy with the tablet, it just significantly lowers what I can realistically achieve art wise on it.... maybe it's just my pen. I am hoping it's my pen.
EDIT: BTW, when you guys mention "offset", are you talking about pressure threshold? Meaning, the amount of pressure needed to actually get a line for example?
UPDATE:
Well after my original post (pasted below), I went ahead and called Samsung CS... the first guy got my hopes up when he told me they would replace it. However, he then sent me to the 'executive customer dept' who took an half an hour on hold to finally tell me I would have to send in the whole unit. I'm not going to do that, because I'm happy with the tablet and it's stupid to send it back just for the pen. Really annoying.
So now I'm going to go actually buy a replacement...
Actually while I was sitting on the phone, I pulled off the switch to check my settings real quick and noticed the second nob had come loose!! I was like holy crap... but the pen works the same way as before so far. So I guess maybe that nob doesn't do anything after all!
I will probably go by Best Buy to get a replacement since they claim they have it in store. I'm a little irritated it has come to this, but if I get it replaced and it works like a charm, I'll be a happy camper.
Anyway, Wacom is releasing another stylus for the tab called "Bamboo Stylus Feel" sometime in a week, but I get the feeling from the vague and upbeat descriptions that it doesn't change the functionality or fluidity or pressure level situation at all.
We really need a diagnostic tool
On another not necessarily related note, I had gotten an email from Samsung when I registered my Note 10 for 50% off accessories... I was going to order straight through them but come to find out it for "mobile" accessories only. Now why would they send me a coupon for mobile accessories to my Wifi tablet???? This is the second time I've registered a wifi tablet with them in past few months and I didn't receive an email then. Odd. So getting it through BBY...
I'm not an artist and don't know much about how the pen works but the tablet is considered mobile. That coupon code works for the tablet accessories.
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Mr. bird said:
I'm not an artist and don't know much about how the pen works but the tablet is considered mobile. That coupon code works for the tablet accessories.
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You would think, but it doesn't take the code in the promotional code box and I have until January 19th.
When I clicked the link within the email to the 'store', it took me to the cell phone accessories store. The pen listed there only fits Note I and Note II not the 10.1.
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SayaX said:
I am reposting this from here in this thread.
If any other artists could comment from their own observations regarding the pressure levels, that would be very appreciated!
....
I'm a little frustrated with my stylus. Some people are saying they can get theirs so sensitive it writes without actually touching the screen, but no matter what, I have to put some amount of pressure to get light touches... then it jumps in pressure too quickly for my liking. It's hard to be precise in Sketchbook Pro and I'm used to Wacom technology... I've owned Graphires (old school Bamboos), Intuoses, you name it. I'm used to being able to lay down light strokes, low pressure with low opacity and then using dropper tool to blend... for the Note 10., this is really difficult.
I adjusted the nobs, but it's not doing any good. Does the range or effect change per person? I'm thinking of actually calling Samsung and seeing if I can get another stylus out of them to try. This is driving me bonkers. Besides that, everything is perfect. For sketching it is fine, but that's just for sketching... painting or rendering is a pain because of this pressure issue.
It would be so helpful if there was a diagnostic tool that reported back the numbers that the pen was sending. There is on the actual Wacom tablets themselves, you can see how much pressure is applied and diagnose accordingly. I've had faulty pens before that I've had exchanged and it's fixed the issue.
I changed the nib too and that seemed to help, but I think the nib settled and it's still difficult to get steady light pressure without wrist strain.
I don't expect Intuos quality, but I expect something relatively close to a Bamboo level. Maybe not the same responsiveness,... But if it boasts 1024 pressure levels, it'd be nice to actually use those levels. I've used multiple apps... S-note, LayerPaint, LectureNotes, Sketchbook Pro... you name it. Still happy with the tablet, it just significantly lowers what I can realistically achieve art wise on it.... maybe it's just my pen. I am hoping it's my pen.
EDIT: BTW, when you guys mention "offset", are you talking about pressure threshold? Meaning, the amount of pressure needed to actually get a line for example?
UPDATE:
Well after my original post (pasted below), I went ahead and called Samsung CS... the first guy got my hopes up when he told me they would replace it. However, he then sent me to the 'executive customer dept' who took an half an hour on hold to finally tell me I would have to send in the whole unit. I'm not going to do that, because I'm happy with the tablet and it's stupid to send it back just for the pen. Really annoying.
So now I'm going to go actually buy a replacement...
Actually while I was sitting on the phone, I pulled off the switch to check my settings real quick and noticed the second nob had come loose!! I was like holy crap... but the pen works the same way as before so far. So I guess maybe that nob doesn't do anything after all!
I will probably go by Best Buy to get a replacement since they claim they have it in store. I'm a little irritated it has come to this, but if I get it replaced and it works like a charm, I'll be a happy camper.
Anyway, Wacom is releasing another stylus for the tab called "Bamboo Stylus Feel" sometime in a week, but I get the feeling from the vague and upbeat descriptions that it doesn't change the functionality or fluidity or pressure level situation at all.
We really need a diagnostic tool
On another not necessarily related note, I had gotten an email from Samsung when I registered my Note 10 for 50% off accessories... I was going to order straight through them but come to find out it for "mobile" accessories only. Now why would they send me a coupon for mobile accessories to my Wifi tablet???? This is the second time I've registered a wifi tablet with them in past few months and I didn't receive an email then. Odd. So getting it through BBY...
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I would like to see some art screen shots that you have done with the note 10.1, if you dont mind. at first i didnt like the sensitivity, untill i found that i could switch writing utensils, and the size of the the point and now i am pretty happy. I used to draw all the time, but havnt done it in a long time, but i thought it had done pretty well and with the different pressures and colors i dont think their should be any problem in creating a masterpiece.
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I would like to see some art screen shots that you have done with the note 10.1, if you dont mind. at first i didnt like the sensitivity, untill i found that i could switch writing utensils, and the size of the the point and now i am pretty happy. I used to draw all the time, but havnt done it in a long time, but i thought it had done pretty well and with the different pressures and colors i dont think their should be any problem in creating a masterpiece.
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It's a 20-25 minute sketch from life. My problem is 'blending'. I'm used to Photoshop method where you can spam dropper tool to get 'midtones' and blend by going over areas with very light strokes. The problem is, you really need to apply low pressure consistently... This was done in Layerpaint with pencil brush, but it doesn't go full opacity (probably more like 70%), but I have the issue in Sketchbook Pro too. Keeping that in mind, I don't generally work 'vector style' with clean lines, fills, gradients and such... I work very painterly.
I don't expect it to be perfect, but I kinda figured it should at least be doable if the pressure works the way it should. This is the level of work I can achieve in Photoshop for example... but again, I don't really expect it to compare. I just expect the pressure sensitivity to actually be useful for something but sketches. For example, in PS, I don't adjust opacity at all because I can reliably rely on pressure... and use dropper tool to get the midtones to continue 'rendering'
Obviously as you can see in the first image, I am having problems getting steady light pressure because all the strokes are so contrasted.
Basically with the pen I have now, I have to push a bit to even get pressure (even after infinitely adjusting both nobs to no avail), and then it jumps relatively quickly to full pressure... there's not much room to adjust.
I'm seeing the same thing. When I put pressure down and then let up to make a thinner line it will just stop writing completely until I place quite a bit more pressure. I too felt this was a problem. Could it be the tablet because I would hate to have to return mine. Everything else works perfectly. There are no scratches, dead pixels, etc. I've had to return Samsung products before because of Quality Control issues and it's hard to get a "perfect" device from them so I hope it's just the pen I'd have to replace.
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I'm seeing the same thing. When I put pressure down and then let up to make a thinner line it will just stop writing completely until I place quite a bit more pressure. I too felt this was a problem. Could it be the tablet because I would hate to have to return mine. Everything else works perfectly. There are no scratches, dead pixels, etc. I've had to return Samsung products before because of Quality Control issues and it's hard to get a "perfect" device from them so I hope it's just the pen I'd have to replace.
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Even after trying the nob job (haha!) from this thread?
Yeah, that's part of why I didn't want to send in my tablet. It works PERFECT! Why send in a perfectly working tablet that is barely a month old??? I've had a faulty pen from Wacom before, but it was with Intuos and it was a $100 pen... I used it for 8 months to some wrist strain before I finally figured out it was defective. It had the same issue as this s-pen, jumping levels too quickly. However, you could adjust the threshold/pressure curve on that, but it still felt 'faulty'...
It really would've helped to have a serious tool which tells you what pressure levels you are achieving when you are trying to diagnose a pen problem like this....
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Even after trying the nob job (haha!) from this thread?
Yeah, that's part of why I didn't want to send in my tablet. It works PERFECT! Why send in a perfectly working tablet that is barely a month old??? I've had a faulty pen from Wacom before, but it was with Intuos and it was a $100 pen... I used it for 8 months to some wrist strain before I finally figured out it was defective. It had the same issue as this s-pen, jumping levels too quickly. However, you could adjust the threshold/pressure curve on that, but it still felt 'faulty'...
It really would've helped to have a serious tool which tells you what pressure levels you are achieving when you are trying to diagnose a pen problem like this....
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I haven't tried that yet but I will give it a try and let you know how it worked. If you get a replacement pen could you post here if it works any different?
I thought I remember seeing a thread in the Themes and Apps section about someone who made an app to reset the sensitivity or something like that on the s-pen.
EDIT: I took the button off and tried to turn the left nob and now my pen doesn't work at all. The hover works. It sees the air view but the pen doesn't write or move the screens or anything.
EDIT 2: It seems that I had the sensitivity extremely low so that I had to press very hard to get it to work. At the best sensitivity setting, it's still about the same as it was before. It looks like there are only a couple different pressure settings. It doesn't matter which way you turn the knob as someone said in the other thread. It's where you position it. I really can't decide if I should return the tablet. I would HATE to get one with a dead pixel or any other problems like overheating etc. I've returned so many things to Best Buy for QC issues that they flagged me lol. So if I return this one and get one with more problems than just the s-pen then I don't think I'd be able to exchange anymore. My choices are take the chance and return it hoping that it's the tablet causing the pressure problems, hope they can just replace the s-pen, or stick with what I have. I'm not really an artist so its not THAT important technically but I like to know that my stuff I buy is working perfectly with no problems. Just knowing something is wrong with it can drive me nuts. I have OCD, seriously lol.
I have noticed on my tablet that the left side of the screen has a faint greenish tint to it where as the other side doesn't. It's barely noticeable but being that I have OCD the way I do, I notice everything. Not sure if that is enough to help me decide to return it or not. I have until Jan. 24. What would you do?? lol
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I haven't tried that yet but I will give it a try and let you know how it worked. If you get a replacement pen could you post here if it works any different?
I thought I remember seeing a thread in the Themes and Apps section about someone who made an app to reset the sensitivity or something like that on the s-pen.
EDIT: I took the button off and tried to turn the left nob and now my pen doesn't work at all. The hover works. It sees the air view but the pen doesn't write or move the screens or anything.
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See, I can't get mine to do that lol... Try turning the nob back the other direction, it is based off screw position. (it also helps to take photos of the actual nob placements).
And yes, I will post an update. I'm going to BBY in the morning since it claims several nearby have it in stock... I find it surprising they carry it on hand.
SayaX said:
See, I can't get mine to do that lol... Try turning the nob back the other direction, it is based off screw position. (it also helps to take photos of the actual nob placements).
And yes, I will post an update. I'm going to BBY in the morning since it claims several nearby have it in stock... I find it surprising they carry it on hand.
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They carry just the s-pen?
I'm trying to think whether it could be the pen or the tablet that has the problem. I would think it's the pen right?
SkizzMcNizz said:
They carry just the s-pen?
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Yes.. this one.
Samsung has it for $40
I'm trying to think whether it could be the pen or the tablet that has the problem. I would think it's the pen right?
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It is likely the pen because the numbers come out from the springy part attached to a sensor. The numbers are sent from the pen to the tab wirelessly and that's how it the pressure is deduced. There is usually a threshold that it reaches before it determines that the pen will start "writing". This is normally in the software with the PC tablets, but in this case I think it's based off the nob underneath the switch people have been saying adjusts the "sensitivity". That's just an educated guess though.
Just an example of how Wacom pens work: http://www.tablet4u.co.uk/techinfo.html
SayaX said:
Yes.. this one.
Samsung has it for $40
It is likely the pen because the numbers come out from the springy part attached to a sensor. The numbers are sent from the pen to the tab wirelessly and that's how it the pressure is deduced. There is usually a threshold that it reaches before it determines that the pen will start "writing". This is normally in the software with the PC tablets, but in this case I think it's based off the nob underneath the switch people have been saying adjusts the "sensitivity". That's just an educated guess though.
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So it actually could be the tablet then? Maybe it's not processing the correct reading from the pen.
I know for me the sensitvity was reduced when I put a screen protector on. I couldn't stand it, so I took it off. If you're using a screen protector I would suggest trying it without and see if it improves the pen's sensitivity. It did for me.
Another thing was I went in and adjusted the pen settings in the tablet. If memory serves me right, you need to have the keyboard set for handwriting and then go into settings and make the adjustments there. It's been some months since I did this, but I know there is a thread somewhere that shows the setting adjustments.
Also, in SketchBook Pro, go in to settings and check to see if pressure sensitivity is on. I think it was turned off by default when I installed it and I had to turn it on.
Lastly, check to make sure you're not accidentally pushing the button on the pen when you're using it. I know I was doing that and making the pen act up. Now that I know that, I turn my pen so I don't accidentally push the button with my finger.
SayaX said:
You would think, but it doesn't take the code in the promotional code box and I have until January 19th.
When I clicked the link within the email to the 'store', it took me to the cell phone accessories store. The pen listed there only fits Note I and Note II not the 10.1.
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Heres the code I got. rE157750d it worked for me.
sent from my jelly bean infused note 10.1
in the UK tesco have the s-pen for note 10.1 with eraser in store now :good:
Picked up the pen this morning from BBY Called them this morning to put it on hold. They took the SKU and said they had 2 in stock and then put one on hold for me at the store-pick-up desk. I tested it in the car. So far so good!
I haven't adjusted it or anything. I am just taking the time to get used to it being different for now. I played with the floor model too to check for a difference and it was so sensitive it would started writing/putting pressure at exactly the moment you touch the glass with the nib... which is what I expected you could adjust it to be able to basically do. The one I had previously, you had to push nib down a bit to start getting pressure. This was after adjusting the screws underneath the switch.
The one I was fortunate to find at BBY is a little less sensitive than that one, but it's still better than the one that came with my tablet. It's the exact same pen, fits in the slot fine and everything and you can't tell the difference otherwise....
Link: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+S+Pen+for+Samsung+Galaxy+Note+10.1+-+Black/6329995.p;jsessionid=921A72775B727C463544377A5933EB99.bbolsp-app05-51?id=1218734648372&skuId=6329995&st=s-pen&cp=1&lp=2
So, $30 spent, but at least I have a pen that as far as I can tell works the way it should! Will need to spend some time with it and perhaps later I adjust it... right now I'm just glad it's working!
I will write here later if anything changes.
SayaX said:
Picked up the pen this morning from BBY Called them this morning to put it on hold. They took the SKU and said they had 2 in stock and then put one on hold for me at the store-pick-up desk. I tested it in the car. So far so good!
I haven't adjusted it or anything. I am just taking the time to get used to it being different for now. I played with the floor model too to check for a difference and it was so sensitive it would started writing/putting pressure at exactly the moment you touch the glass with the nib... which is what I expected you could adjust it to be able to basically do. The one I had previously, you had to push nib down a bit to start getting pressure. This was after adjusting the screws underneath the switch.
The one I was fortunate to find at BBY is a little less sensitive than that one, but it's still better than the one that came with my tablet. It's the exact same pen, fits in the slot fine and everything and you can't tell the difference otherwise....
Link: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung...218734648372&skuId=6329995&st=s-pen&cp=1&lp=2
So, $30 spent, but at least I have a pen that as far as I can tell works the way it should! Will need to spend some time with it and perhaps later I adjust it... right now I'm just glad it's working!
I will write here later if anything changes.
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Thanks for the update. I'm glad to hear it was just the pen and not the tablet. I'm an idiot. I didn't even think that it could be the screen protector causing this issue but I'm afraid to take it off and use the s pen on the glass for fear of scratches.
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If you search 50 percent off Samsung on this site, there will be a promotion code to get half off the pen on their site. I have a stand coming and I am waiting for the hdmi adapter to come back in stock
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I had this problem with sketch book pro a reset of the tablet fixed the problem pressure levels work great now
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Hi All
My wife's recently got a Hero but she's found a problem with her long nails making typing difficult (capacitive screens don't work with fingernails!)
I've bought a couple of different types of iPhone stylus' but, though they do work, you have to really press quite [scarily] hard to make them register.
Can anyone recommend a stylus that works smoothly and without too much pressure?
Thanks!
The Pogo ones seem to be the most common iPhone ones, have you tried one of them?
Not yet - will seek one out. Thanks!
Did a quick search on Ebay - Item number: 390096569342 free postage too
Anybody have any joy resolving this?
Not yet. I was going to try a Pogo stylus but then found a review that suggests that it may be no different than the other stylus' I've bought. I can actually believe this because I've now managed to test the stylus' I've bought on an actual iPhone and they work far, far better than on the Hero
...not sure where to go from here.
It seems that HTC has lodged a stylus patent specifically for capacitive screens
http://htcpedia.com/news/htc-patents-stylus-for-capacitive-touch-screene.html
Thanks for the update. there has to be a lo-tech fix for this though. I'm going to have a think & a Google search & I'll let you know what I turn up
I found this but I'm not sure I like the idea of metal on glass
http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/06/diy_iphone_stylus.html
Update: Metal actually works on the screen!
Update: got this now http://www.flickr.com/photos/antisynoptique/3225070344/in/photostream/ my mind is thinking hard. JTHM what do the ends of your stylus' look like?
There's no helping some people.
Have you tried this?
+1 lol
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You'll be sorry when I make my own lo-tech stylus! I'll show you.
I'LL SHOW YOU ALL!
Sorry,
Sometimes I get a bit carried away, I just think that there is a better way & telling my better half to trim her nails (although it is a good idea) wont really fly
I always wait till my Japanese friends did something wrong and then ask them for Yubitsume. Works like a real finger
i was going to post a picture of a chopped off finger to be a smartass so i did a google image search...
now im mentally scarred for life :/
The best stylus I have ever used is the papermate flexgrip elite M. They come in different colors and double as a pen which is what they really are. I recommend highly. I change color with the outfit I'm wearing. I'm in IT Networking so I always keep one in my shirt pocket. My job gives them out. Once you start using them you wont be able to go back to a regular stylus. I can't. You want to see it with the cap on the pen side, not the clip side. I use the small stylus side.
Has anyone done testing with a stylus for the A500? If so, what were your thoughts?
I'd like something I can use to either draw quick sketches for photo ideas, or something I can use to jot a quick note here and there (of course, I'd probably need an app that supports handwriting, but those may come in time).
I purchased a Targus stylus today. Having come from the old pre-capacitive days when the stylus is hard, the new stylus' seemed a little odd but I must say the control is very good. Pin point accuracy - excellent for drawing.
Leechazoid said:
I purchased a Targus stylus today. Having come from the old pre-capacitive days when the stylus is hard, the new stylus' seemed a little odd but I must say the control is very good. Pin point accuracy - excellent for drawing.
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I also got the Targus stylus a week or so ago; and it does works well.. I saw another stylus somewhere online that is supposed to give you even finer control and allow you to actually see exactly where the stylus is touching the screen, but now I can't find where I saw it. I'm thinking about giving the new one a shot too, if I can find it again. ;-)
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I also got the Targus stylus a week or so ago; and it does works well.. I saw another stylus somewhere online that is supposed to give you even finer control and allow you to actually see exactly where the stylus is touching the screen, but now I can't find where I saw it. I'm thinking about giving the new one a shot too, if I can find it again. ;-)
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I think you're referring to this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/DAGi-Stylus-P10...?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item41582701ff
I have one and it works very well in general. The only issue is getting it at the right angle with the screen - particularly if you have the screen at an angle. But I like it better than the rubber tipped ones.
I bought the Boxwave stylus. I like it a lot. However it doesn't always catch it, sometimes it clicks on a screen I don't want or am scrolling through. But other than that, I am very happy with it for detailed work. My fingers get sweaty on occasion and I have a hard time using the screen when they are like that. So the stylus is a nice addition to have, especially if you don't like fingerprints.
I do wonder if it will somehow mess up the screen though later on.
Just curious, is there any way to get hand writing recognition to work? So for instance, if I bought one of these stylus's, would I be able to use it and forgo the need for an on screen keyboard?
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I think you're referring to this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/DAGi-Stylus-P10...?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item41582701ff
I have one and it works very well in general. The only issue is getting it at the right angle with the screen - particularly if you have the screen at an angle. But I like it better than the rubber tipped ones.
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Thanks. Yep, that's the one; I couldn't remember it's name at all.
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Just curious, is there any way to get hand writing recognition to work? So for instance, if I bought one of these stylus's, would I be able to use it and forgo the need for an on screen keyboard?
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I'm using flexT9 app which has peninput, but its not perfect, the capacitive stylus is more like big stick then a pen
Can anyone recommend a stylus that's got more of a penpoint tip rather than something the size of a finger?
With a capacitive screen I don't think something like this exists. Although I was in a meeting today with somebody taking notes on an I pad, not sure how they were doing that.
I own this stylus and I really like it. This is the only stylus I have used so I cannot compare it to anything.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004BSF1I8
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With a capacitive screen I don't think something like this exists. Although I was in a meeting today with somebody taking notes on an I pad, not sure how they were doing that.
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I got word yesterday that Acer is releasing one specifically for the A500. I will get more information and keep everyone posted.
I'm getting behind on everything as I had to go out of town for a few days on a business trip. Also, prototype custom Iconia case ships to me today for a review and should be available stateside after the 26th. It's similar to the FUSE.
I also use a Targus stylus for iPad as it was called.
Has a soft rubber tip, but works great on my device.
I have a griffin made for the Ipad but works on all my Android touch screens
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This looks like a great one. I also found a video on you tube how to make one out of a pin and allum Fool
Going to try the DIY thing as it looks super accurate. If fails I'll be buying this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/oStylus-Capacit...?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item4aab617685
propagandax said:
With a capacitive screen I don't think something like this exists. Although I was in a meeting today with somebody taking notes on an I pad, not sure how they were doing that.
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Youtube dagi stylus and you will see magic
my gf works at best buy and she got me the Rocketfish (best buy brand) stylus for 2 bucks lol. it works great with the iconia and ipads.
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I picked up the targus stylus from staples.its kinda OK.
But I do enjoy my hair stylists She rocks.geeky girls can look hot as well.giggles
Has anyone found an app that allows taking handwritten notes? Everything I have tested is really laggy for note taking.
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Has anyone found an app that allows taking handwritten notes? Everything I have tested is really laggy for note taking.
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Nah - all I've found are really crappy too.
Hey xda, i just got my GNote and i was hugely excited for one Feature: The S-Pen
I imagined it to be like the Wacom Tablets i used, barely Touch needed to respond but instead i feel like i got a faulty Device. How does your S-Pen react? Does it respond under its own weight, does it feel naturally to Touch or do you actually need to Press on the screen quite a bit? I feel like the Pressure of writing with a Normal Pen on Paper is needed for it to respond, natural while Writing or Scribbling but weird when trying to type or navigate through Menus. I cant seem to find anyone else reporting this kind of Problem, i was on the Latest stock Firmware and now on Rocket Rom GB, no change. Also is there an Test App to show the Pressure on the Pen? (Since its 128? levels Pressure Sensitive.)
Please help and tell me if i should get a new device or if this is normal.
Thanks in advance.
With mine, sometimes the phone reacts to the s-pen close to, but not actually touching the screen. Sometimes I have to do what I'm gonna do, then pull the pen quickly away from the screen to keep from another action being performed.
Mine has the same problem of not being responsive, and I can't for the life of me get it to be pressure sensitive. On top of that it lags quite a bit. I am hoping that it improves with ICS update, but I am not holding out much hope. I purchased it cause of the S pen, but having owned it a while, I would keep it without the S pen.
I don't have any of the problems mentioned, the s pen works smoothly without having to use much pressure, what apps are you guys using?
All of the standard Samsung apps work fine i.e. s memo etc
I use my Note to take handwritten notes on a regular basis and write at my normal handwriting pace using 7 notes from the market in cursive mode and it works flawlessly. I do not have to apply much pressure when writing.
I think you guys must have faulty units.
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I don't have any of the problems mentioned, the s pen works smoothly without having to use much pressure, what apps are you guys using?
All of the standard Samsung apps work fine i.e. s memo etc
I use my Note to take handwritten notes on a regular basis and write at my normal handwriting pace using 7 notes from the market in cursive mode and it works flawlessly. I do not have to apply much pressure when writing.
I think you guys must have faulty units.
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look carefully at what you're writing and you'll notice the s-pen is off buy ~1-2mm. If you still can't see it change the line thickness (of the pen) to as low as possible then look carefully. It gives the illusion of being more accurate with a bigger line size.
Here's a thought...
Why don't you all SEARCH first, read the numerous threads on this very same subject, then purchase the app TOUCHSCREENtuner Pro. Then you can set the s-pen to write EXACTLY where you want w/o any left right up down error. I believe you might also be able to calibrate the touch pressure, but I'm not positive about that feature.
I bought the app the day it was released and have no complaints about the app price or the s-pen functionality. Try it!
The search button is your friend.
kraz
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It seems there is a large range in quality of s-pens. Many people report being able to write without the pen even touching the screen (pressure transducer triggered prematurely), and some report having to push too hard. Mine is just right. I think others should request s-pen replacements if their pen is either too sensitive or not sensitive enough.
i haven't ever had problems with the s-pen, but now i have the same named before. it's only before the update to LC1. maybe the rom has some wrong parameters about the s-pen. if it continues, i think i'll downgrade to LB2
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i haven't ever had problems with the s-pen, but now i have the same named before. it's only before the update to LC1. maybe the rom has some wrong parameters about the s-pen. if it continues, i think i'll downgrade to LB2
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TouchScreenTuner Pro has a "Touch Sensitivity" Setting. Recommended setting is 25. I have it set to 20 and s-pen writes with almost no pressure at all.
kraz
krazman325 said:
Here's a thought...
Why don't you all SEARCH first, read the numerous threads on this very same subject, then purchase the app TOUCHSCREENtuner Pro. Then you can set the s-pen to write EXACTLY where you want w/o any left right up down error. I believe you might also be able to calibrate the touch pressure, but I'm not positive about that feature.
I bought the app the day it was released and have no complaints about the app price or the s-pen functionality. Try it!
The search button is your friend.
kraz
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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Here's another thought.
According to the description, it also requires root, which some like me do not have.
I exchanged one pen under warranty. The second one works also like crap, but for this one i really have to push on screen. Crap.
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Not really sure how it happened. I had the thing in my pocket, as I had done no less than 300 other times. Never sat down or had anything else in my pocket, etc. Just did it as I was getting other things together to go out the door. Went to get in my car, took it out of my pocket and got inside. When I set it on the passenger seat I took notice to what I thought was a hair. Of course, it wasn't a hair. It was a crack. I sat the thing on my passenger seat, and drove to work, which is like... 500 yards away... looked over to pick it up and go inside and I had a second crack branched off of the original. Nice.
I did not have noticeable screen lift or creaking of any sort. Previously I had applied a good amount of pressure by hand to the area to see if I could duplicate what other users were talking about, but I never could. If I had to judge, based on insanely crazy ADD assessments, I would say I had the ever so slightest amount of screen lift on the left side. I'm talking a difference of about a thickness of a sheet of paper, and the ridge on the left still existed, even though I would have to say it may have not been as deep as the right side.
So now I'm kind of wondering what to do. I've never worked on a tablet, but I've taken apart countless laptops and even done LCD swaps on them. Part of me wonders if I should just purchase a new screen for it. I mean, can you do that? I'm looking around online and I'm finding LCD replacements, but I'm not sure what to think of them, as it's the glass that cracked. Is the surface glass/LCD panel itself all one unit?
I'm halfway debating that I un-root this thing (since ASUS seems to be a hater in that department) and send it back to ASUS for repair. Of course, it'll be a 2 week turn around, which is awesome, and I'm not even sure if it'll be covered. I always felt a screen crack was a hard thing to argue. Something involving pressure had to do it, but oddly I have no explanation for it.
I have no idea, overall... what do you guys think? I began to really use the tablet a lot, and I even just got the thing fully rooted to use USB OTG with it and my 500GB external HDD packed of stuff, which I thought would be nice on a trip coming this October.
tl:dr, screen cracked, which solution?
Purchase new LCD replacement, install myself. Pros - could epoxy any weak area on the left side. Cons - it's a repair that costs money that I'm not sure is justified on such a new unit
Un-root, return to ASUS, hope there's no hassle. Pros - could be free warrantied repair. Cons - is it "really" fixed against left-side screen problems? And LOL @ having to un-root.
Sell cheap on Ebay, set cash aside, wait for something else. Pros - maybe something better is soon to come? Cons - I'm down a device for what could be a semi lengthy time, which I had begun to use as a personal laptop replacement (between desktop and tablet, it was a pretty solid combo for me)
First of all, can you please verify that the left side of your screen is actually below the bezel?
Here is the best way to check I've found.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30720892#post30720892
Even if the screen lift is subtle enough to ignore, there's going to be an equally subtle amount of flex. That means repetitive stress, and there have been user reports of lifted screens cracking under normal use.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-7-tablet-forum/201712-screen-lift-but-lazy-return.html
And here is a post by someone like yourself who went to ASUS about it. They sent him a fruit basket with his replacement of course.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/32838-cracked-screen-upload-picture-please/
Although the cause of your crack is unverified, I don't think we should assume that it happening on the left side is a coincidence. Your experience is consistent with other reports.
I personally returned three units for minor screen lift and asked for a refund on the third because I decided to treat this as a potentially serious issue. In my opinion, only customers who trust the Play store warranty implicitly should consider tolerating a hair of separation.
I hope you can resolve this with ASUS. It's a longshot but worth trying.
And by 'resolve' I mean convince them to recognize this as a manufacturing flaw before sending it in.
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convince them to recognize this as a manufacturing flaw before sending it in.
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There is demonstrably a manufacturing flaw with the N&'s screen LINK
Any flexing is out with the design parameters of any hard glass touch screen and as such flexing will lead to premature failure.
I understand. I've been retracing my steps all morning and I'm downright baffled at what I did to cause this. I had the tablet on the kitchen counter, along with my keys, phone, and laptop bag... put the phone in one pocket, tablet in another, walked outside, took tablet out of my pocket, and bam - I saw it. So it's a matter of about 9 steps I took to my car. No stairs, no epic falls on my rear end, nothing like that. It's because of that (coupled with the fact it happened on the left side) that I'm wondering if it is some more food for thought in regard to it being a design flaw.
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And here is a post by someone like yourself who went to ASUS about it. They sent him a fruit basket with his new one of course.
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Apologies... I'm unsure if the fruit basket/new tablet was sarcasm or if I somehow missed it. Are you suggesting that ASUS repaired his cracked screen without issue??
And by 'resolve' I mean convince them to recognize this as a manufacturing flaw before sending it in.
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Well, I somewhat tried to do that over the phone just now. I didn't have my serial number handy but I did everything I could aside from giving them the serial number, so I need to call back later when I can get the box and give them the rest of the info. As I talked with the rep, I explained to him I've done a great deal of reading about the Nexus 7, and I stressed that the left-side screen issues don't seem to be exactly uncommon. He said the most common thing he hears about screen cracks is when people have the tablet sitting in extreme hot/cold and reverse the temperature quicker than they realize. Meaning if they leave the tablet in their car overnight and it's cold, bring it inside and use it while sitting against the fireplace, then they may face the issue. I stressed two or three times that I had no idea how this happened and that I applied no pressure to the tablet to cause this. He said if ASUS finds that it's customer caused, you'll have the option to pay for the repair and have it sent back. Otherwise, you'll get it repaired and sent back without question.
I know with him being on the phone and not having seen this issue personally it's hard for me to assure him that this is either a fluke thing or a design flaw, but he didn't really seem too concerned (or aware) of what issues I brought up that I've heard about from the Nexus 7. I mentioned that some users reported that their screw seemed to be too long, causing an unevenness and therefore a perfect storm often resulting in a cracked screen. I also brought up other various screen separation issues, but he seemed to be unaware of them. Granted, he's just the front end phone support rep, so maybe he doesn't know as much as the techs do who actually work on the devices.
That being said, I'm not sure that I can get a guaranteed feeling before sending it in that this will be covered under warranty. All I can really do is wait to hear back from them and if they come back and say it was caused by customer negligence, to be aware of the facts in regard to what screen issues are out there to make for a compelling counter-claim. I'm doubtful it'll matter, though. It's not like it's an internal issue where the CPU seized up, something beyond customer control. Hopefully this won't be a headache...
In other news, I didn't use my tablet since the screen is of course cracked, but I just realized the entire touch interface is not working either.
Perfect start to the day. :good:
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I understand. I've been retracing my steps all morning and I'm downright baffled at what I did to cause this. I had the tablet on the kitchen counter, along with my keys, phone, and laptop bag... put the phone in one pocket, tablet in another, walked outside, took tablet out of my pocket, and bam - I saw it. So it's a matter of about 9 steps I took to my car. No stairs, no epic falls on my rear end, nothing like that. It's because of that (coupled with the fact it happened on the left side) that I'm wondering if it is some more food for thought in regard to it being a design flaw.
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Screen lift would explain it. Check your tablet more thoroughly using the following guide, and take a photo if possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30720892#post30720892
If your lift is significant enough to be discovered by this visual test then it will not be difficult to prove.
Apologies... I'm unsure if the fruit basket/new tablet was sarcasm or if I somehow missed it. Are you suggesting that ASUS repaired his cracked screen without issue??
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Click the corresponding link?
ASUS told him to take a hike.
Well, I somewhat tried to do that over the phone just now. I didn't have my serial number handy but I did everything I could aside from giving them the serial number, so I need to call back later when I can get the box and give them the rest of the info. As I talked with the rep, I explained to him I've done a great deal of reading about the Nexus 7, and I stressed that the left-side screen issues don't seem to be exactly uncommon. He said the most common thing he hears about screen cracks is when people have the tablet sitting in extreme hot/cold and reverse the temperature quicker than they realize. Meaning if they leave the tablet in their car overnight and it's cold, bring it inside and use it while sitting against the fireplace, then they may face the issue. I stressed two or three times that I had no idea how this happened and that I applied no pressure to the tablet to cause this. He said if ASUS finds that it's customer caused, you'll have the option to pay for the repair and have it sent back. Otherwise, you'll get it repaired and sent back without question.
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If you can provide some evidence that your screen wasn't flush that should improve your chances.
ASUS is not a company that cares. The best you can do is legitimately present your case to a rare CSR who does.
Calling unprepared and baffled isn't going to work. Don't threaten, but you'll need to be assertive and better informed.
I know with him being on the phone and not having seen this issue personally it's hard for me to assure him that this is either a fluke thing or a design flaw, but he didn't really seem too concerned (or aware) of what issues I brought up that I've heard about from the Nexus 7. I mentioned that some users reported that their screw seemed to be too long, causing an unevenness and therefore a perfect storm often resulting in a cracked screen. I also brought up other various screen separation issues, but he seemed to be unaware of them. Granted, he's just the front end phone support rep, so maybe he doesn't know as much as the techs do who actually work on the devices.
That being said, I'm not sure that I can get a guaranteed feeling before sending it in that this will be covered under warranty. All I can really do is wait to hear back from them and if they come back and say it was caused by customer negligence, to be aware of the facts in regard to what screen issues are out there to make for a compelling counter-claim. I'm doubtful it'll matter, though. It's not like it's an internal issue where the CPU seized up, something beyond customer control. Hopefully this won't be a headache...
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The screw theory and other warranty friendly experiments have been pretty much discredited.
Here is the current working theory for why the left side is able to lift up, summarized by yours truly because it's easier to find my own posts, but trust me that this has been corroborated by several teardowns.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30707430#post30707430
I took no less than 30 pictures. It's impossible to really grab a solid image of what's going on. Here's the best I could do.
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The screen lift you see is definitely worse now than it originally was, likely due to the actual crack relieving whatever pressure the screen was previously under.
If you notice, there's two cracks on the left side. The one that's a bit more rounded and lower on the left side was the original. As I said, I got in the car and went to work a mile away. Once I took another look, a second crack appeared - which is the one that shoots up the left side of the screen.
Fingers crossed.
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I took no less than 30 pictures. It's impossible to really grab a solid image of what's going on. Here's the best I could do.
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You need to take a better picture, preferably without the trippy reflection, but the edge of your screen is definitely higher than the bezel.
That's a very good thing.
The screen lift you see is definitely worse now than it originally was, likely due to the actual crack relieving whatever pressure the screen was previously under.
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This photo proves that the left side of your screen is higher than the bezel, and if you explain that your screen was lifting up before it cracked -- which it almost certainly was, even if you failed to notice it before -- then you have as good a chance of ASUS honoring your warranty as anyone.
I suggest that you correspond with ASUS and try to get them to acknowledge that this doesn't appear to be your fault before sending it in. You would need to get their assessment of the photo to do this, probably via email.
If you notice, there's two cracks on the left side. The one that's a bit more rounded and lower on the left side was the original. As I said, I got in the car and went to work a mile away. Once I took another look, a second crack appeared - which is the one that shoots up the left side of the screen.
Fingers crossed.
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If ASUS tries to screw you, try explaining what happened to Google Support. Although you didn't buy your device from the Play store, Google may take an interest in your case if ASUS fails to honor its warranty by accusing you of causing a well known manufacturing flaw.
You did buy this from somewhere other than the Play store, correct?
I'm just making sure you understand that Google handles Play store warranties. You wouldn't need to deal with ASUS at all if you ordered it there.
Thanks for your response. Yes, I bought it from Wal-Mart. Right now I'm almost wishing that I bought it from the Play store as Google sounds like they offer significantly better support than ASUS.
I know I need to take a better picture as well, it's just what I had at the time, so I at least wanted to give you guys some degree of a visual.
I did end up getting through to ASUS a 2nd time (had to call back because I didn't have my SN handy). The call ultimately got disconnected. No idea what happened... I heard him, he didn't hear me. I did explain in the conversation that I am well aware of what issues exist and I want this thing repaired. It's a C60 model, which sounds like the first gen with the questionable issues at hand. He did however say, well the one curve ball is, the techs are going to ask a very valuable question - was the device sent out with a cracked screen?
I pretty much almost went off the deep end there. I said, do me a favor, and take down these notes. There is a design flaw. Period. Google acknowledged it. ASUS should too. My device fell under this category. This issue will be addressed and repaired by ASUS.
At this point he sounded to be more "on the same page" with me, so we went to go through the RMA process, but then the call got wacky. I have to admit, I am exceptionally concerned about the comment he made. How on earth can they base cracked screen repairs on a premise like that.
At any rate, we'll try calling back again. Hopefully there won't be a headache, but I'm not convinced it'll exactly be easy. The tablet otherwise is in absolute perfect shape, so there's definitely no sign of a drop, etc. Who knows, maybe ASUS will surprise me?
EDIT - also, their on hold "did you know?" messages are enraging me. "Did you know that if you have a single bright or dead pixel on your LCD screen, ASUS will replace the entire thing for free?"
Don't worry. I wrote that little tid bit down for later reference if this turns into a fiasco. :good:
Well, I'm sending the gizmo back today. I'm questioning how I should handle it. ASUS really has me on edge since their warranty support seems extremely sub par based on what some users said already about repairs. Also, based on the fact the one rep I spoke to said it's unlikely they'll fix it without charging me sent me through the roof, as he said there's no design flaws - despite the fact Google has even said that... maybe include a picture and a short note in the box:
"Here's a picture depicting the screen lift that had existed prior to the crack forming, which is directly in line with the design flaw that plagued a few of the first generation devices that Google has confirmed. Hope this helps."
I don't want to come off as if I want to pick a fight, but I'm just on edge due to what the rep told me. On the flip side, I could always wait until they call me saying they'll charge me, then go from there. Meh.
Hi, this is a Note 2 user, and I have been using it for past 9 months, now I am interested in S4, the reason is 'SIZE' and size only. BUT I have been told that it has some serious build quality (screen breaking!) issues! And I have read that topic in General section too, which is very disappointing to say the least. I often use my phone in jeans pocket, that's why I am even more worried. Really, it can break that easy? I mean you put it in your pocket, drive for some time, and then when you take it out the screen is broke? What the !!!
I live in India, and I would also like to know that if the screen does break does it come under warranty in that case? Cause I won't be spending 120 bucks (or whatever the price is of a new display) every time it breaks.
If there is any other problem other than the above issue do also let me know.
I know this is a S4 section and asking something about S4 here will mostly give me positive reviews, but kindly, for one second don't be biased :laugh: and help this dude out
Thanks in advance.
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Hi, this is a Note 2 user, and I have been using it for past 9 months, now I am interested in S4, the reason is 'SIZE' and size only. BUT I have been told that it has some serious build quality (screen breaking!) issues! And I have read that topic in General section too, which is very disappointing to say the least. I often use my phone in jeans pocket, that's why I am even more worried. Really, it can break that easy? I mean you put it in your pocket, drive for some time, and then when you take it out the screen is broke? What the !!!
I live in India, and I would also like to know that if the screen does break does it come under warranty in that case? Cause I won't be spending 120 bucks (or whatever the price is of a new display) every time it breaks.
If there is any other problem other than the above issue do also let me know.
I know this is a S4 section and asking something about S4 here will mostly give me positive reviews, but kindly, for one second don't be biased :laugh: and help this dude out
Thanks in advance.
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Hi
About phone build quality, i got nothing bad to say, i also wear my phone in jeans almost all the time and i don't even have one scratch on it, so don't worry about that.
About those lag problems, i really didn't encounter neither one tiny lag, i have 32gb octa core version, so you don't have to worry about screen or anything else
I hope i helped
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jujuburi said:
Hi, this is a Note 2 user, and I have been using it for past 9 months, now I am interested in S4, the reason is 'SIZE' and size only. BUT I have been told that it has some serious build quality (screen breaking!) issues! And I have read that topic in General section too, which is very disappointing to say the least. I often use my phone in jeans pocket, that's why I am even more worried. Really, it can break that easy? I mean you put it in your pocket, drive for some time, and then when you take it out the screen is broke? What the !!!
I live in India, and I would also like to know that if the screen does break does it come under warranty in that case? Cause I won't be spending 120 bucks (or whatever the price is of a new display) every time it breaks.
If there is any other problem other than the above issue do also let me know.
I know this is a S4 section and asking something about S4 here will mostly give me positive reviews, but kindly, for one second don't be biased :laugh: and help this dude out
Thanks in advance.
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my friend has also got a note 2, and i can say that the s4 is a lot better then the note 2.
putting it in your jeans no prob.
if you turn of some Samsung stuff, no lag
and you can always install cm so you have zero lag.
I have dropped mine with a spigen case on about 5times once on concrete and im 6ft 5 so quite a drop and no problems. As for in jeans I always keep it in my front pocket amd never had a problem I lie on the couch forget my s4 is in my pocket and roll around on it. Build quality is fine.
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I have been using my s4 for a while now and haven't experience any problem concerning screen issues, It dropped a few times and the screen survived... but if you are so worried about the build issue there's always the option of extra protection such as a shock proof case. There is many out there, up for grabs. And trust me you will find the case saving your phones a lot of times from what could have been a total wreckage.
So get yourself a somewhat shock proof case and a screen protect (even though its not really needed, the extra protection is always good) and you will be good to go. You will phone will remain in tact for a prolong period.
Personally, I find that the build quality for the S4 is pretty okay (in the almost 2 wks that I've owned this phone). The SAMOLED cracking problem also worried me but what I surmise is that the problem is caused by 1 of 3 things: improper cases (or lack thereof) for the phone size, wearing restrictive clothing or extreme temperature fluctuation (from ice cold to hot). With enough applied pressure, I can see the phone twisting thereby allowing the SAMOLED to give and crack without breaking the gorilla glass. In order to counter that, I opted to get a rugged, more sturdy case (Otterbox Defender) than my usual TPU ones. It does provide a bit of comfort because this thing has a hard shell on the inside and I don't feel like the phone will try to conform to the shape of my leg when in my jeans pocket. As for the extreme temperatures, it never actually got very cold this winter, so I'm not to worried about coming into the house from out in the cold.
while i read that some people have even managed to break the screen by only holding it in their hands using it, my phone is still ok. i'm also having it in my jeans pocket. those who broke their phones almost never say which pocket they had the phone in. many people put it in the back pocket... i wouldn't do that with any phone.
except a few bugs in cm i dont have anything negative to say about the phone.
As a former Note 2 owner i like this phone better because of the better camera, crisp screen quality and descent batterylife (off course not better than the GN2). Also size wise it is better to handle than the Note2. I think overall the S4 it is a big improvement over the Note2. Just my 2 cents
I'm also in the same predicament. Currently using a Note 2 but it's size..is both a boon and a bane. Considering the s4 now hoping that 5" screen size would hit the sweet spot. Was using a s3 previously.
Thanks for the replies. However I didn't want to hear about lag and CM thingy. So I take it that there is NO major issues with the build quality. Good. I am going for it then.
One more thing, on Note 2, with S Pen it acted as a mouse on some webpages, like when you hover the S Pen on a sub-link it would show the additional options under that link, now I know that S4 has some air gestures with fingers, but is that feature enabled in web browser?
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Thanks for the replies. However I didn't want to hear about lag and CM thingy. So I take it that there is NO major issues with the build quality. Good. I am going for it then.
One more thing, on Note 2, with S Pen it acted as a mouse on some webpages, like when you hover the S Pen on a sub-link it would show the additional options under that link, now I know that S4 has some air gestures with fingers, but is that feature enabled in web browser?
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Yes but it only enlarges and gives you a preview of the page if you hover over it with your finger afaik.
jujuburi said:
Thanks for the replies. However I didn't want to hear about lag and CM thingy. So I take it that there is NO major issues with the build quality. Good. I am going for it then.
One more thing, on Note 2, with S Pen it acted as a mouse on some webpages, like when you hover the S Pen on a sub-link it would show the additional options under that link, now I know that S4 has some air gestures with fingers, but is that feature enabled in web browser?
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So far the Air View is enabled in the stock browser but only allows you to magnify the content when you hover your fingers over a particular content. As for the additional options, I don't think that feature is enabled as yet. Hopefully it is in the near feature.
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Yeah, okay, I'll have to give up that feature, as well as all the S Pen features, and a great battery backup and maybe some other things, anyway, will have to digest them. I just can't stand huge size anymore.
Thanks all for the replies. Coming in this section within a week.
P.S.: One last thing, I'll get the white one, I guess there is no difference/problem with it in comparison to Black one? Cause with Note 2 it was a different thing, the White model had correct LED colours, while the Grey had not! Anything like that?
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buy i9505 one..more custom roms and porting google play edition rom.
jujuburi said:
Yeah, okay, I'll have to give up that feature, as well as all the S Pen features, and a great battery backup and maybe some other things, anyway, will have to digest them. I just can't stand huge size anymore.
Thanks all for the replies. Coming in this section within a week.
P.S.: One last thing, I'll get the white one, I guess there is no difference/problem with it in comparison to Black one? Cause with Note 2 it was a different thing, the White model had correct LED colours, while the Grey had not! Anything like that?
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No, there's no difference with the colours.. There's only variants differences like I9500 and I9505... But you can get either black or white with either and have the same features with respect to their variant.