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I'm thinking of using another ROM
but first I want to know ur opinions about the one you're using or u think is the best, which one is the unbugiest & fastest one for xoom (wifi only)?
& what really makes the difference in xoom ROMs, cause I didn't see any difference in screen shots, like how u see a big difference between Cyanogen & stock one (in android phones)
mehras1991 said:
I'm thinking of using another ROM
but first I want to know ur opinions about the one you're using or u think is the best, which one is the unbugiest & fastest one for xoom (wifi only)?
& what really makes the difference in xoom ROMs, cause I didn't see any difference in screen shots, like how u see a big difference between Cyanogen & stock one (in android phones)
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There is really only one custom ROM for the Xoom, made by Team Tiamat, and one variation on that one.
Save for some specific tweaks and added features like overclocking, there is not a massive difference from the stock ROM since the HC source code has not and will not be released.
Therefore it is a little early to start the typical "I have no freaking idea what I am doing, please tell me what I should do and how I should feel so I don't need to think too much" posts, isn't it?
rschenck said:
There is really only one custom ROM for the Xoom, made by Team Tiamat, and one variation on that one.
Save for some specific tweaks and added features like overclocking, there is not a massive difference from the stock ROM since the HC source code has not and will not be released.
Therefore it is a little early to start the typical "I have no freaking idea what I am doing, please tell me what I should do and how I should feel so I don't need to think too much" posts, isn't it?
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That was a good answer, but the last part was a tiny bit harsh, no?
Honestly... the post above hit the nail on the head. Tiamat is the only core ROM for the Xoom as of current because no other teams will want to create a ROM that you cannot do too much with since the Honeycomb source is not out, as the post above said, and it won't be released. Wait for Ice cream sandwich. That's when they will be ready to release the new source. So, ICS should be rooted and custom ROM heaven!
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That was a good answer, but the last part was a tiny bit harsh, no?
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Perhaps, but if you look at other XDA forums such as the SGS forum, there are dozens of these posts a day. People who can't be bothered to read threads and do research but just keep asking what people think is the best, as if that has any real value.
Then when someone answers them, they will ask them to tell them how to flash the selected ROM, still seeing no need to educate themselves.
Next will be the frantic "I bricked my device...help me!" post.
A few days after someone walks them through getting back to stock, they will just post another "Which ROM is best" post.
It becomes an unending cycle. Sure I am probably being unfair to the OP to make a point, but they are being unfair to themselves by not doing their own investigation.
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Honestly... the post above hit the nail on the head. Tiamat is the only core ROM for the Xoom as of current because no other teams will want to create a ROM that you cannot do too much with since the Honeycomb source is not out, as the post above said, and it won't be released. Wait for Ice cream sandwich. That's when they will be ready to release the new source. So, ICS should be rooted and custom ROM heaven!
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And to give all due props to Team Tiamat, most of the people with the skills to make a ROM for the Xoom are already part of that team...and they have done about the best anyone could do with without sources.
Even if there are other Devs out there familiar with the Xoom, I doubt any other team will make a ROM since what is there for them to do that isn't already in the Tiamat ROM?
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And to give all due props to Team Tiamat, most of the people with the skills to make a ROM for the Xoom are already part of that team...and they have done about the best anyone could do with without sources.
Even if there are other Devs out there familiar with the Xoom, I doubt any other team will make a ROM since what is there for them to do that isn't already in the Tiamat ROM?
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My point exactly! What more would the devs be able to do or add without the source other than some themes?
Great point about all the best devs being on Team Tiamat. They are working together to make an awesome ROM!
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Perhaps, but if you look at other XDA forums such as the SGS forum, there are dozens of these posts a day. People who can't be bothered to read threads and do research but just keep asking what people think is the best, as if that has any real value.
Then when someone answers them, they will ask them to tell them how to flash the selected ROM, still seeing no need to educate themselves.
Next will be the frantic "I bricked my device...help me!" post.
A few days after someone walks them through getting back to stock, they will just post another "Which ROM is best" post.
It becomes an unending cycle. Sure I am probably being unfair to the OP to make a point, but they are being unfair to themselves by not doing their own investigation.
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You are always so helpful, I'm sorry that you are feeling a bit burnt on all the help you've been giving. I know that I feel a bit frustrated when people clearly don't research before they leap, but I thought the OP was just looking for some opinions.
Anyway, your replies and diablo2224's pretty much wrapped up that topic!
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Perhaps, but if you look at other XDA forums such as the SGS forum, there are dozens of these posts a day. People who can't be bothered to read threads and do research but just keep asking what people think is the best, as if that has any real value.
Then when someone answers them, they will ask them to tell them how to flash the selected ROM, still seeing no need to educate themselves.
Next will be the frantic "I bricked my device...help me!" post.
A few days after someone walks them through getting back to stock, they will just post another "Which ROM is best" post.
It becomes an unending cycle. Sure I am probably being unfair to the OP to make a point, but they are being unfair to themselves by not doing their own investigation.
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funny, but true answer, that's kind of what happened to me in the past month, but I finally broke the circle rules in the pas 3days, so now I'm on my own
diablo2224 said:
My point exactly! What more would the devs be able to do or add without the source other than some themes?
Great point about all the best devs being on Team Tiamat. They are working together to make an awesome ROM!
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without source code,
so all those tablet optimized apps are made by devs by playing with the right resolution & graphic effects for the screen!!?
& since xoom & the others have (almost) the same screen size, it won't be so difficult for developers
anyway, what's wrong with google!!
I just read on wiki that they'll release the source code with ice "cream sandwich" source code, & that's because "cream sandwich" will become an android version both for phones & tablets....
don't u think it's waste of time with doing that? I'm imagining a very boring future for android, think of it, u'll see the same version on all the android smartphones & tablets!!!
seriously, what a boring choice for google
mehras1991 said:
without source code,
so all those tablet optimized apps are made by devs by playing with the right resolution & graphic effects for the screen!!?
& since xoom & the others have (almost) the same screen size, it won't be so difficult for developers
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Umm... ok?
That my friend is for developing apps. Maybe you don't know anything about root or custom Roms? It doesn't work the same way when it comes to developing a custom Rom with special features such as system tweaks. Without the source, the Rom will not see things such as... every single tweak in CyanogenMod! No interface tweaks, multimedia tweaks, no tweaks of any kind! Check out CyanogenMod settings... there are a boat load of tweaks for everything you can think of. As of right now, nothing like that can happen with our Honeycomb tablets without the Honeycomb source code.
Without the source, you have a slighty modified stock Rom experience that can be themed pretty easily...
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Umm... ok?
That my friend is for developing apps. Maybe you don't know anything about root or custom Roms? It doesn't work the same way when it comes to developing a custom Rom with special features such as system tweaks. Without the source, the Rom will not see things such as... every single tweak in CyanogenMod! No interface tweaks, multimedia tweaks, no tweaks of any kind! Check out CyanogenMod settings... there are a boat load of tweaks for everything you can think of. As of right now, nothing like that can happen with our Honeycomb tablets without the Honeycomb source code.
Without the source, you have a slighty modified stock Rom experience that can be themed pretty easily...
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useful info,
thnx
so, do you think we'll have chance to see & try some cool stuffs when "ice cream sandwich" being released!?!?!? orrrr our xoom will be old for that time & we'll have to think of buying something new???
mehras1991 said:
useful info,
thnx
so, do you think we'll have chance to see & try some cool stuffs when "ice cream sandwich" being released!?!?!? orrrr our xoom will be old for that time & we'll have to think of buying something new???
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ICS will be ROM heaven for both root users and devs alike, no doubt about that. No one knows if it will make its way onto our current Xoom's though. Keeping in mind that at Google IO this year, they said something about a time frame for all new Android devices that will keep the selected devices up to date with the most current OS updates and releases. If that's the case, the Xoom was the first Honeycomb tablet/dev tablet... so one would think that the Xoom would be getting the ICS update according the what they said at IO. Again, no one really knows yet as it is still much too early for ICS to officially launch. We'll see if the OG Xoom gets it or else they will end up launching the Xoom 2 as the first ICS device no doubt, because by that time the Xoom will be nearing it's one year mark, meaning... time for a remodel!
So SGS+ won the ICS -poll on facebook. And DroidXDA promised to port ICS for our device. I am so glad there's finally some progress. I'll post the news here so don't be afraid to subscribe this thread
And remember to support the team by clicking the "ads by nuffnang" on their website: DroidXDA Blogspot
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didm't find it on the blog, but anyway. I hope this really will be ported.
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didm't find it on the blog, but anyway. I hope this really will be ported.
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Its not on the blog... its on their Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/DroidXDA)
Really looking forward to the port...
IMO no need to open 100 threads about the same subject, and definitely not with such promising/euphoric titles. zack is still working on it and either he or FaqihCici will surely open a dev thread as soon an initial version release is available.
-dedlxe
gonna build a kernel to test ICS for myself to see how it handles what is different beside CPU?
rayiskon said:
IMO no need to open 100 threads about the same subject, and definitely not with such promising/euphoric titles. zack is still working on it and either he or FaqihCici will surely open a dev thread as soon an initial version release is available.
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So let me put this straight. We don't even have a dedicated subforum and now you are denying us even a single topic (which will be lost anyway) ?
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Looking forward on this. Hopefully it will be stable.
Any news ?
I dont think here will come anything useable...
Still, if it would work would be best
I feel like they just want to generate clicks on their ads.
Everyday I am reading preannouncemen. Mh, I clicked so often on those ads really thought they would try to make something happen.
value pack released
There is nothing much exciting. Samsung released a value pack for i9001. Installation instruction can be found in this very own forum.
Same crapWiz UI and additional face detection added.
Okay, so you are told to press the thanks button when you want to say thanks. But sometimes you want to say more. So here, you can say thanks to a (bunch of) developer(s) of your choice
So first of all, I'm saying thanks to DooMLoRD, for always keeping me on my toes when it comes to kernel development. He is more experienced than I and if I need some help he will help me
Second, to the devs that have the R800x, because I truly do feel sorry for you guys. But with the limited resources Verizon provided you with, you have done a great job.
I also want to say thanks especially to paxChristos, who just became a team mate of mine. His determination to get something done is unbelievable, and if you do something well, he will thank you well for it.
Lastly, I want to say thanks to Sony, for the Official ICS beta, I think we are your beta testers now And to KalleD especially, for providing a link between unofficial and official developers, a strong one. Its a shame you can't give Verizon a good kick up the arse though.
Keiran
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I would like to say thanks to you Keiron for all your efforts and hard work!! you've made some brilliant ROMs and kernals.
Also thanks to:
Pricey2009
Nicholtus
Atarii
DoomLord
Logseman
ICX
FXP
all for the same reason really if it wasn't for all these devs putting their time and efforts in for us (and for free!) we would be stuck on sony's firmware (Not saying its crap or anything - i just like to have more choice)
Last of all Thanks to Sony (again) for all their support towards the open source community!!
Thanks ti jjdoctor and acocalypso.
Your ICS rom id great
Thx pvyparts
I specially want to thank pricey2009 for making it possible to use my favorite rom MIUI on my xplay..and offcourse doomlord and you Keiran for your awesome support for our device..cheers..
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When I bought my Galaxy S, it was just the time when the phone's development picked up heavily. I started with the OCLF of Ryanza which made it faster than my brain could handle at first.
From there on I started to see what was happening around me. I saw the incredible Voodoo Project made by supercurio, which turned a good phone into a work of art, with its speed, color display and sound capabilities increased by several orders of magnitude.
And then I started following Darky. He was at first yet another theme/mod developer of the many, but then he started building something big. Passionate words, an insane update rhythm and a really cool look won me for his cause, and eventually for his tester team. His ROM grew so popular that he eventually has to create his own forum in order to manage the huge community built around it. I learned a lot of things as a tester, but what was most important is appreciating how Darky actually took a bunch of mostly clueless enthusiasts and turned them (us) into people able and willing to contribute in a fairly big measure, not because he taught us stuff directly, but because we all had to push ourselves to new reaches every day, in many aspects.
With that experience in mind, and now that a year is almost past, I can say that such knowledge, plus what I've learned, has made me not quite skilled as to be a developer (sorry, elspanish, I don't belong in that list ) but really understanding and appreciative of what developing, and particularly troubleshooting, entails beyond code.
The developers and teams that have worked seriously on our phone have been already mentioned, so I won't repeat names. All I want to say is, if you're young and eager and you're thinking about starting to develop stuff for a phone, be it the Xperia Play or any other, by all means give it a try: maybe you won't make the ultimate content for your platform (although you should aim there!), maybe you won't earn more than a couple thanks in your bar (which is not your objective anyways), but you will learn a great lot, and especially you will learn things after typing the last line of code, which are the really useful and enriching ones.
Lots of love, good luck, and start your engines.
XPlay-Swype
Thanking the following devs, although I just KNOW I'll leave someone off my list accidently!
Supervenom - for bringing the AOKICS Beta 2.3b ROM to the table. (although that ICS Beta part was a bit misleading, since it's really CM)
KeiranFTW - especially for the 4/18/2012 ICS Kernel!
DooMLoRD - for ALL your kernels !!
paxChristos - For taking up where Chevyowner left off with the CDMA for CM9 dev
Chevyowner - Miss you, man
Leraeniesh - For GBTweaked of course and for trying with ICSTweaked.
FXP - you know why
Krabappel2548 - No wonder I forgot you at first; that's one heck of a name to remember. But not as bad as "Leraeneish"
Sony - but I wish you would kick some CDMA lovin' our way !!
Anyone else who makes an effort to help out the R800x group - that crimson-follicled bairn of questionable parentage.
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that crimson-follicled bairn of questionable parentage.
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Stay classy, netizenmt.
Honestly, I would be doing a great injustice to all who develop and aspire to become developers by listing individuals' names here. After all, in the spirit of open source, I'd have to start with Google, cyanogen, and to any other developer who's ever started a project that we've stolen borrowed from.
Instead of giving individual thanks, I'll tell a little story. My first android phone was an LG Ally. Not much in the way of a development scene there, but we had some incredibly awesome developers, Trident being the first and foremost, in my mind. Then I moved on to the Samsung Fascinate. If anyone has looked over in their section of XDA, development is still going strong. I still have my Fascinate, but I switched to the Play on an upgrade simply for its gamepad. (I don't need to tell you why, do I?) It was this phone that made me stop and really appreciate the development that goes on with a phone, especially one that was pretty much designed to prevent such things from happening. In fact, after seeing the dedication that this phone has gotten from all of the developers here, it's inspired me to start learning more about development and the Android's system, itself. I would be much more learned by now if I wasn't so lazy about reading up on the stuff. (However, if one of you developers is willing to take me on as an apprentice, hit me up!)
So not only do I thank the developers for this phone, but developers for every phone available. We can't forget the community, though. Despite it's few exceptions, this particular phone's community is very tight-knit and helpful, even when it comes to keeping the lulz coming.
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Stay classy, netizenmt.
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Class is my Middle Name!
speeeeeeeeecial thank to yifanlu for psxpria
Don't forget the people that started it all for play
Blagus (too much to mention)
Bin4ry (first recovery)(root)
+ The rest of the free Xperia team (CM)
Androxyde (flashtool)
Yifanlu (PSXperia)
Thomassafca (themes)
Frasertag (first custom Rom)
Sony Ericsson (the best phone/handheld game console)
+ more
Some people Mentioned already
Doom (Kernals)
ICX team (ice everything)
Of course Kieran FTW (darkforest)
+ loads more
Big respect to all that made the play what it is today
Don't forget Big No thanks to the worst thread that this forum section has ever seen made by dude above (my play has Hdmi) glad that has vanished
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I specialy like to thanks to doomlord and keifran,and all who made r&d to xperia play,kernel and rom and a lot more,
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thanks to
i would like to say thanks to retard and dzo they are my favorite developers since they develop staf for my phone. so thank you guyz keep up the good work!
I'm gonna say thanks to everybody...
Not just the devs but every user on this site, the creators of this place and anyone who has helped me or given me advice.
Everyone is nice (well, can't judge tone of voice via text ) and helpful
Corny as it may sound, this is the best forum I've used and the XDA app is my most used by far
Keep up the good work devs
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Not everyone on my list is necessarily a developer, some are just helpful people.
I would like to thank;
Bin4ry and Androxhyde, for the ever-so-useful flashtool.
DooMLorD, for his awesome kernels and quality of work despite working on so many devices simultaneously, and his one-click script for the ZergRush root exploit.
KeiranFTW, for taking the time during his busy school life to make great roms, and accompanying kernels. Also a great tweak app.
Blagus, for his work regarding bootloader unlocking and the Omnius program.
Alejandrissimo, for helping people unlock their phones remotely using his SETool dongle, and not even turning a real profit.
pvyparts, for his work with the locked bootloader CWM installer, and the T.E.A.M. ROM
Yifanlu for his native PS emulator work.
Paul for his n64 emulator, which is the only one to use the touchpads correctly
Iridaki, for their work with T.E.A.M. and themed apps.
Nabeel_Nabs, for his great ICS theme.
Thomassafca, for his AWESOME themes for both gingerbread and ICS
paxChristos for his work with the Verizon (cdma) models
Logseman, for helping noobs learn about Android and the xperia play.
AndroHero, also for helping people learn how to do cool things with their phones
Sent from a Galaxy far, far away
Thanks... to those who contributed in making the XPlay a more useable phone... especially for PSX games... shez, when are they going to expand the Playstation suite? Maybe never?
To all in this Forum...... The Forum has been Running Smooth and the Members in this forum have been extremely civil and helpful to each other......
WE Moderators really do notice and thank you all for being such a great group.
Going forward........ FYI The Vibrant is one of the few older devices that gets to sport ICS on it... it still is a great device.
Jelly Bean is just popping out now and I have talked with some of the devs, and they think it can and will make it to the Vibrant.... Soooo . . . that Original Galaxy Phone is still got some GET-UP still in it......
But, , , Do not expect for at least a month ... and to that please do not post a bunch of ETA threads as I will have to delete them a spam... Just be patient and realize how many other phones who do not have ICS yet......
Thanks All, ~~ oka1
Do you know when JB is coming out?
Just kidding, understood.
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Do you know when JB is coming out?
Just kidding, understood.
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To answer that question, The framework is very different and alot of things have changed. 1st they have to figure how to make the new framework fit older platform, then figure if memory size might be an issue.... and so on and so on...... Then when they got it right, then I would guess the Vibrant will be way down the priority list. That's the answer as good as it gets. :cyclops::cyclops:
I am out of thanks for the day on my tablet (I'll have to hop on my phone/tapatalk and hit you up) but thank you very much for posting this.
We are all excited for JB but I have to agree with Oka1, there are still very few devices running ICS let alone ports of Jelly Bean. In the RC forums, there are so many users who are still on Gingerbread and a few who are on Froyo with no hope at all from their hardware, manufactures or dev teams.
The Vibe is almost 2 years old and still blows the doors off many other devices. It is so easy to use, the bootloaders are unlocked and it has External_SD and removable battery (#noGNex or HTC ONE X/S) . It is because of these but also many other reasons that we are able to get working Gingerbread, ICS and now Jelly Bean ROMs for a device that was officially abandoned at Eclair and only got Froyo through a grassroots Twitter campaign.
Viva la Vibrant!!!
I wouldn't worry too much about JellyBean, since Cyanogen and AOKP supports the Vibrant.
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The Forum has been Running Smooth and the Members in this forum have been extremely civil and helpful to each other......
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The more expensive the devices, the more elitist the fanboys become. So maybe here, but less at SIII and Nexus section.
THANKS:victory:
Let me start by first apologizing for my absence from the development community.
Most of my followers know the reason, but yes at times life need's to be give priority over development .
I still remember the days when a ROM release from us used to crash the servers and the numbers used skyrocket, well i am sure every one misses it as much as i do. Well let me be honest with we bought a change in this ecosystem with the kitchen concept 2yrs back with KitchnPro and today probably every one is using the kitchen concept.
I have seen developers do great work over at XDA and really appreciate what they do and the amount of time they spend on it. Apart from them what real development is happening over at xda its just Unpacking, Deodexing and then repacking!
I don't really want to do the same i really want to do something different so it will help out everyone in the community to grow.
So the team has switched focus towards creating Kick-ass apps on this Rom space that already exists and which lacks good app developers we basically plan to fill this void. We have a few apps in the cooker which are due to there release dates and we are looking forward to the community for more great ideas towards app development coz i seriously think we can contribute much more on that space than at pure ROM development.
Time and the lack of innovation is what is holding us back to create Rom's its just pointless to do it over and over agin it just gets boring after some time and this is the absolute truth of why we have not payed attention towards rom development.
Wait there is Good News too:
Lets face the fact 70% use checkrom for KitcehnPro
As a Start to our app's initiative we have decided that we will no longer keep KitchenPro locked to checkrom users.
To give back something to this great community we will be giving Kitchen Upload rites to fellow developers over at XDA so that the kitchen becomes a massive Root Market place from where you can download anything for your device anytime.
So no mater you be a SGS2 or SGS3 or Note or Note 2 user if your developer wants to use/host content on the kitchen they can.
We are in the process of building a web based Kitchen upload directory where independent app developers can host there content which can be downloaded by the general public over a foray of devices. (we looking for a kick-Ass web developer too)
Though the development process will take time but at least you know whats coming.
Rom's or not we will give app to every one for free!
looking forward to get all your responses!
Regards,
GC
http://checkrom.com/threads/checkrom-alive.1087/
Awesome! Loved CheckROM!! Cant wait!
That is amazing news!
Best wishes towards your developments goals
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ROM NeatRom Lite 4.3 XWLSD
Kernel Philz 4.35 XWLSD
Mods:
23 toggles blue w/rt clock
Automatic Call Recorder
NeatRom Boot Animation
Fixes
AdvanceS fix
MW & Ripple Lockscreen On/Off fix
You might want to say that that text is a quote from the producers of check ROM ...... Some people here might think that you created it.
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It looks like I am one of those "30%" because I never used that Kitchen app.
3 words - Last Checkrom release (for the SGS2)
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i think CheckROM was the first rom i flashed the day my S2 arrived. seems like so long ago now, i guess it was lol but it was a great rom.
hope you can do something as good with JB although i'm happy enough on the stock firmware thats out at the moment
Interesting to see what the future brings after all the drama that has passed since their last release for the S2. I hope it will be a fresh start, because in the days of GB Checkrom was the best.
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AW: CheckROM alive AGAIN !
Juhu, missed the kitchen alot!
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great news :good: