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Has anyone had any experience here writing code to take advantage of the internal speaker on our phone devices?
I know the external speaker is a standard peice of WM hardware, but there must be a way to call the internal speaker as well... this would be very useful for coding VOIP apps, as you can imagine.
Any thoughts?
Apparently the elusive Cicero networks product "Cicerophone" handled VOiP calls using the internal speaker!
This is something that other developing apps, such as Skype for WM, have failed to figure out so far.
Unfortunately, Cicero is very secretive, and as of yet no one else seems to know how to achieve this.
Anyone here know anything?
Which one is the internal speaker?
I think I wrote some audio routing code for this once...
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By "internal" I mean the handset speaker usually reserved only for phone calls.
Windows Mobile devices have always had an audio speaker which is easily accessible to developers as a standard audio device. However, phone devices have a SECOND speaker, one that is smaller and not as amplified, which is used to listen to phone conversations when the device is held up to your head. This smaller speaker is what I've seen called the "internal", although I admit that it may not be the correct term for it.
I'm asking because I would actually like to route audio to that speaker for certain applications, especially VoIP, which until now has been going to loudspeaker (which causes audio feedback and privacy issues).
Do you have experience with this sort of thing?
Devices from Eten, e.g. X500, M700 have a skype service programe that redirect vioces from speaker to earphone. I don't know how it works but i just made a test to trick the service and direct the sound to earphone when making VOIP calls.
Dishe said:
Apparently the elusive Cicero networks product "Cicerophone" handled VOiP calls using the internal speaker!
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Hi! Where can i buy/download cicerophone ?
Partially Solved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I apologize for cross posting, but if you use the provided wired headset, everything is OK and voip (i.e.: Fring, etc) runs great, no echo e no voice feedback.
TRY IT!!!!!!!
I thought we all knew that already...
I've been using a BT headset and the BTAudio app to reroute all sound input/output to the headset. Problem is, you have to initialize it every time you want to make/receive a VOIP call, otherwise it will eat your battery very quickly since it keeps a constant audio channel live to your headset, even when there is no sound currently being played.
The problem is, when I leave voip on and slip the phone in my pocket, I'm not always using my wired headset and/or BT headset when the phone rings, and its silly that I can't use hardware that's sitting on my device in my hands.
Hi ,
I searched and couldn't find cicerophone anywehere .
do u know by any chance where we can download or buy it ?
tnx
no, its not for sale.
It was developed to sell to a telecom, and they are still trying to sell the technology. There never was a consumer edition of the software, only beta and evaluation versions that some people were fortunate enough to get their hands on for review purposes. They have done a very good job of keeping a VERY tight lid on this- its not available ANYWHERE, and they don't have any plan of making it available to the general public.
This tree has been barked up many times, its a lost cause.
Maybe some guy can have a look at the SkypeSettings.exe and SkypeSettings.dll files from Eten.
From what I saw, it only deals with the WAV1: device. No more devices are listed. Probably it captures the audio from it and than sends it to front speaker.
It does not run on my PDA. The settings tab also appears grayed out, so the app know it is not an Eten.
Unfortunately I could not debug the file on my device, given that IDA does not work on WM6, but probably both files have a check for Eten device, and if it is of a different brand the apps terminate.
Anyone Fring users out there able to get caller/mic audio through the headset?
My setup is Blueant Q1 (8.21 firmware) with N1. Google listen and other audio apps play to the headset though the new A2DP support (sweet!). Calls though vodafone also works fine.
Could not find help googling around. Great forum. Thanks for any pointers!
No cigar for you or any other Fring user, including myself.
It is one of the outstanding feature reqs with Fring, along with
removing the uber annoying buzz messaging notification.
They seems to move reaaaaally slow, so it is going to be a while,
I am afraid.
Thanks for this. I can't see this as being a complicated thing to add. People with bluetooth car sets must have the same problem right?
I'd use the N1 supplied headset/mic, but it broke after the second week.
Fring if you are listening.. give me an option to get rid of the stupid test call on my friends list and like everyone else I want to be in control of my audio notifications. For the rest,,, great work.
A new Fring software update and still no bluetooth/headset or speakerphone support..... anyone care to venture a guess as to why this is such a difficult feature to add in?
Well,
an app that outputs audio, should not be concerned with just how that audio ends up getting delivered - over built-in jack or BT. All an app should do for that to work is to declare it wants to use BT when it is available.
Unfortunately, the Android doesn't work like that. Enabling app for BT seems to be a fairly involved affair, way too complicated.
As for speaker, same thinking should apply, except we lack a HW speaker button, so app needs to provide a toggle via its own UI.
And like I mentioned, Fring is a very weird app in how its been maintained, with updates barely trickling through, one every few months - which is way too slow.
Using Skype, Gtalk, etc with A500.
I tried to make a call with Skype (Skype testing service) - the sound quality was poor.
Tried to make a call to another Skype user - I could hear him well, but my voice was muffled.
Solution:
Just plug in a headphone/earpiece (that has NO microphone) into the headset. You can then use the internal mic on the A500 to make your calls over Skype. The sound quality is very good in both skype and gtalk.
I did try my Iphone's earpiece, which has a mic, but the sound was muffled.
Hope this helps.
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Using Skype, Gtalk, etc with A500.
I tried to make a call with Skype (Skype testing service) - the sound quality was poor.
Tried to make a call to another Skype user - I could hear him well, but my voice was muffled.
Solution:
Just plug in a headphone/earpiece (that has NO microphone) into the headset. You can then use the internal mic on the A500 to make your calls over Skype. The sound quality is very good in both skype and gtalk.
I did try my Iphone's earpiece, which has a mic, but the sound was muffled.
Hope this helps.
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I have to do this too, do any others not have to do this?
I spoke with my wife a few minutes ago and asked her how I sounded the other day. I used Gtalk and she did too... she was able to hear me and I was very clear.
Not only that, but I was using 3G with only a single bar. Had poor video quality obviously, but sound was flawless.
Called with video on gTalk, being on WIFI - good quality audio, average video...
Skype working with no problem, too
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Called with video on gTalk, being on WIFI - good quality audio, average video...
Skype working with no problem, too
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where did you guys find the gtalk and Skype with video
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where did you guys find the gtalk and Skype with video
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Uhh gtalk has video with gmail gtalk or other supporting android device.
Skype I think has video only with select Verizon handsets or something like that
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where did you guys find the gtalk and Skype with video
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Only GTalk had video calling feature for me. It just was here originally. Called from my Desktop with web-cam to my Acer.
Skype - audio only. No video. (yet? )
ok got you. thanks guys
how did you guys managed to use gtalk with video in canada? Isn't it only available in states ?
Nope It is available everywhere in the world.
If the person you are trying to reach has a video version of gtalk you should see a green camera on the side.
PS for those that do not have a video version of gtalk on their android phone you can use a free app called vtok which allows videoconferencing with gtalk client
That is what i have been using on my HTC DHD and it works great.
Sent from my A500 using XDA Premium App
Where is the microphone located ? I'm never sure which areas to aim my voice towards when speaking.
Holding the A500 in portrait mode, with the volume control button on the right, look for a small hole on the right side, between the glass and the bezel.
It is about 5 inches from where the power switch is located.
________<----- on/off
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If you have the Acer case, the mic is cover by the velcro tab (go figure).
Is there a mic for the front camera?
I can't seem to find one.
Thank you. Took me a minute but I found it. Voice to text has been very difficult thus far in comparison to my nexus 1.
is there a software fix to the mic issue?
banksia said:
Using Skype, Gtalk, etc with A500.
I tried to make a call with Skype (Skype testing service) - the sound quality was poor.
Tried to make a call to another Skype user - I could hear him well, but my voice was muffled.
Solution:
Just plug in a headphone/earpiece (that has NO microphone) into the headset. You can then use the internal mic on the A500 to make your calls over Skype. The sound quality is very good in both skype and gtalk.
I did try my Iphone's earpiece, which has a mic, but the sound was muffled.
Hope this helps.
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thanks so just download the skype and you are in business. Is this easy to use sir?
found a fix, you can use an external mic the one built in is good but the software is making it retard. If you plug in a headphone with a mic in it or just a plain old mic it will work great, i have tested it for a good 3 hours, it works. Much much better sound.
google voice search doesn't work for $$$$ no matter how good your mic is. 3.1 was a huge ****up by acer HUGE
Can someone do some modification so that we can use video as people in galaxy s did?
my mcs are worthless can't do anything with them no voice commands work neither will the search or Skype or GT. Absolute bs
My mic works flawlessy for google voice search i have no idea how?
I think the issue is that some folks aren't used to a true noise cancelling mic. It's using a dual analog noise cancelling mic. so it's filtering noise while capturing your voice or capturing your voice 'twice' if you're using it properly/close by.
If you're trying to use the Mic in a noisy area, it may cancel some of your voice as noise unless you speak up or put it somewhat close to your face or speak directly facing it. In other words, picture yourself on a video call. When you set yourself up to be seen by the camera properly, that is ultimately when the Mic will be at it's best.
I imagine people are using it with with a phone's mic in mind but they are unfortunately not the same. A phone's mic is located as close to the mouth as possible without allowing users to blow into it. The mic on the A500 is located away/out of finger reach, primarily and directly facing your mouth.
In the end, I think the best advice for using the mic is telling you to use it like you're on a speakerphone call. Clear, precise vocalization. You can also run the best test with the Voice Recorder to kind of hear how well your voice is picked up from various angles. I found, as I mentioned before...that I am most clear in either portrait or landscape mode with the tablet roughly a foot to 18 inches from my face, similar to how I'd hold it for a web cam. I found that if I spoke as if I were using a speakerphone, I got the best results....even while the TV is on or music is playing. I lost ground however, when I lay the tablet flat on a surface or docked out of line of sight, that is, beside me or elsewhere. I also have no issues with using Google Voice Search.
Hi, all-
I'm trying to use my Motorola H720 mono bluetooth earpiece with my new Nexus 7. Specifically, I want to use it to handle all "phone-like" communications, such as G+ hangouts, Skype calls and GTalk.
The H720 pairs with the Nexus 7, which reports it's connected to "Phone Audio"... though the N7 doesn't actually have a phone function. As a result, all my audio for hangouts and Skype calls still gets routed to/from the N7's built-in mic and speaker.
Is there a way to make the H720 available system-wide on the N7, or at least use it in the apps I mentioned?
Thanks in advance for any light you can shed!
-Mark
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Hi, all-
I'm trying to use my Motorola H720 mono bluetooth earpiece with my new Nexus 7. Specifically, I want to use it to handle all "phone-like" communications, such as G+ hangouts, Skype calls and GTalk.
The H720 pairs with the Nexus 7, which reports it's connected to "Phone Audio"... though the N7 doesn't actually have a phone function. As a result, all my audio for hangouts and Skype calls still gets routed to/from the N7's built-in mic and speaker.
Is there a way to make the H720 available system-wide on the N7, or at least use it in the apps I mentioned?
Thanks in advance for any light you can shed!
-Mark
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I have a similar need to use bluetooth mic with Skype. I can hear the audio through my Jabra BT8040 but Skype still uses the built in mic on the Nexus 7 and doesn't seem to offer an option to select a different mic.
So you're having only slightly more luck than I am. With Skype, when I switch it to bluetooth (vs. internal mic/speaker), it switches back, as if to say there's no usable bluetooth device available, even though mine is paired and connected to "phone audio".
So maybe our earpieces are only designed to work on "phone audio", and not other media... and on my phone (a Motorola Droid 2), the Skype app is able to use such a device, but on the Nexus 7 it can't. I've seen apps in the Play store that supposedly let you use mono Bluetooth earpieces like ours for any kind of audio media, which should fix this problem, if they work... which is a big "if".
In any case, I'm off to search for a bluetooth device that *will* work in this capacity on a Nexus 7. I didn't think it would be such a rare use case... bluetooth earpiece for Skype and other audio/video chats. Who knew?
If anybody can relay any experience with a particular earpiece that works for this, I'd be very grateful!
Thanks,
-Mark
fangthorn said:
I have a similar need to use bluetooth mic with Skype. I can hear the audio through my Jabra BT8040 but Skype still uses the built in mic on the Nexus 7 and doesn't seem to offer an option to select a different mic.
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Further research...
I just found a post in Google's "google-plus-discuss" forum, which this forum is preventing me from linking to until I hit post #10... it seems G+ isn't working with bluetooth devices at all (or at least it wasn't at the time of the above forum discussion). Apparently, bluetooth earpieces are working with GTalk, but I haven't been able to try that yet.
On a Nexus 7, having no bluetooth ability in G+ hangouts is a problem, because the built-in speaker is too quiet for me to hear the voices of people I connect with. Such is the nature of chat, with heads moving in and out of the pickup range of the mics. If the Nexus 7's built-in speaker were maybe 6dB louder, I'd stand a chance of hearing people, and wouldn't need a bluetooth earpiece to work... but as it is, it's too quiet.
I prefer using cabled earphones on phone calls but it's very annoying on this device as I can hear my own voice through the headphones when I speak. This is a feature called "sidetone" or "microphone monitoring" and for example on windows it can be disabled.
It's surely not related to the headset because it's only when making calls through the phone app but not on whatsapp, skype, etc calls.
My phone is rooted and I am running crdroid on a11. I never ran it on stock so I don't even know if this related to crdroid or not.
Is there anyway to disable this feature or maybe install another phone app which doesn't have this?
Google is not showing much when searching for this, except for some Pixel users having this problem after updating to a13:
Pixel 4a(android 13) call issues when using a wired earphones with mic - Google Pixel Community
Edit: Just installed another dialer which didn't help, so it's something which has to be changed in the system.
Edit2: My girlfriend solved it. When using the Apple USBC to 3.5mm adapter (instead of the one I was using before) the issue is not there.