[Q] Anyone try NFC Payments? - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was trying it out at a McDonalds, and it didn't work. I tried my Nexus 7 down at the same McDonalds a while back and recalled it working fine.
When I put my Nexus 10 to the Pay Pass, Google Wallet seems to recognize that there's a pay pass nearby, but doesn't actually do anything (asks me to re-tap, but it doesn't do anything still). I'm on stock (full stock; locked bootloader, no root, 4.2.1)
I'm thinking the Nexus 10 is outputting a weak NFC signal? Was wondering if anyone else gave it a shot or not with a Nexus 10.

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I haven't tried NFC payments but the device definitely has a particular spot where NFC works.
I found that the NFC chip/area is somewhere near the camera.
It was quite difficult trying out Android beam with my friend's S3, and it did work unreliably.

Lol you tried to pay with your Nexus 10? I couldn't imagine doing that.
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That's probably more practical to do with a phone, man.
At any rate, the N10's effective area is pretty small, along the side with the buttons. It's easy to move in and out of it.

Nexus 10 works with Google Wallet purchases
The Nexus 10 allowed me to purchase ice cream at a Rite Aide. I was tethered to my phone, but it's supposed to work without an Internet connection. I touched the back sensor by the camera to the reader and it worked quickly.
- Rick

So, just tried it again at the McDonalds in my town and it still didn't work :/ Not entirely sure what might be up (maybe McDonald's PayPass system is messed up; I don't have or know anyone with another NFC device to verify though).
A nearby Rite-Aid has a PayPass though, and my N10 worked fine with it.

Is your N7 the gsm version? Maybe your nexus needs a working network connection?
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Google Wallet, doesn't appear to work on my 7 o.o

I've tried at 3 different places to get Google wallet to work, but I get nothing. I put the tablet on the paypass station and I've tried it in every way possible and still get nothing. I've asked the cashiers and they're all useless and like wth is paypass and wallet. So, is there supposed to be something that indicates it takes it or what? All the places I've been have the wallet icon on it, but nothing.
I think I got my Google Wallet after I made a purchase at the PlayStore. Spend the $25 credit or use your own CC or whatever, and then after the purchase, the google wallet will appear.
I meant actually using it to pay in a store. I have the credit.
Did you activate NFC and is it working properly?
To check: hold your Mastercard or something else that has NFC chip behind your Nexus 7, if you hear a sound that means your NFC is active and working.
If not, your NFC chip might be broken.
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I think my NFC is not working too. I put a NFC smart card behind my N7. I run an app that supposed to read the card's information. Nothing happens. Pretty sad
Worked fine for me when I made a purchase at McDonalds the same day I got my tablet. I don't think I even had to tap the paypass thing before it registered it
I just touched it, it beeped or whatever sound it makes and just hangs at authorizing transaction. The cashier was like oh you need to swipe it so I'm thinking it was something on their end because how am I supposed to swipe a tablet.
And I don't have a mastercard or any NFC to test it with.
sevron said:
I just touched it, it beeped or whatever sound it makes and just hangs at authorizing transaction. The cashier was like oh you need to swipe it so I'm thinking it was something on their end because how am I supposed to swipe a tablet.
And I don't have a mastercard or any NFC to test it with.
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Sometimes you have to ask the cashier to select credit.
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new AT&T sim card blocking google wallet!

I was at the AT&T store to pick up a new micro simcard for my new N4. The rep was about to give me the simcard when he suddenly asked if I had NFC. I said yes and he went and got a different card muttering something about extra security for Isis.
Later, I tried to set up Wallet but it just hung during initialization. When I took the simcard out, Wallet initialized fine. Put it back in, kaput.
Is AT&T actively disabling Wallet since they are promoting Isis or is it an inadvertant incompatibility. I plan to go back and demand a non-Isis card.
flintdragon said:
I was at the AT&T store to pick up a new micro simcard for my new N4. The rep was about to give me the simcard when he suddenly asked if I had NFC. I said yes and he went and got a different card muttering something about extra security for Isis.
Later, I tried to set up Wallet but it just hung during initialization. When I took the simcard out, Wallet initialized fine. Put it back in, kaput.
Is AT&T actively disabling Wallet since they are promoting Isis or is it an inadvertant incompatibility. I plan to go back and demand a non-Isis card.
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Whoa, that would be completely ridiculous. I took the micro SIM from my HTC One X, put it in my Nexus 4 and Wallet authorized fine (haven't used it yet). All it says is that I'm using an unsupported device because of root, but that doesn't change the functionality.
I had to go to at&t for a sim card as well however wallet works great for me. I use it every time I go grocery shopping.
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ErikWithNoC said:
Whoa, that would be completely ridiculous. I took the micro SIM from my HTC One X, put it in my Nexus 4 and Wallet authorized fine (haven't used it yet). All it says is that I'm using an unsupported device because of root, but that doesn't change the functionality.
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I did same here and also could use wallet
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I was really surprised that there really are two different sims now. I forgot to mention that I'm in Austin, one of two cities testing out Isis and there is a major push in the AT&T store for it.
I'll report back when I get my hands on the regular sim.
Before I start my rant, why don't you just cut the old one to size?
Funny how AT&T is shooting itself in the foot, again and again.
For dumbphones:
The dumbphone crowd have little loyalty towards att (mostly CDMA or MVNO). other than that, they usually have cheaper plans.
For iphones (neither smart nor dumb) :
The iphone crowd are leaving left and right (mostly to MVNOs), and now with the unlocking, and the new compatible towers, people are heading to T-Mobile.
For android phones:
Their slow updates and bloatware, causes people to dislike buying from them. The fact that they just quit updating, causes people to leave completely.
Now they are messing with the nexus? A phone that just needs service, not support, from them?
Good thing I threw my number at Google. I change providers any time I feel like it. Right now I'm thinking about trying net 10 <att>
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I was in the area and thought I might as well get a new one. It's free and only took a few minutes. In hindsight, I should have just cut it and have a working Wallet.
what is the word on this? it is hard to find information. wallet was working fine on my gnex. i cut down the sim and slapped it in my nexus 4 and wallet doesn't work now. if at&t is disabling software on my phone that isn't harming them in any way, we should be writing letters to attorney generals and calling for arbitration.
After many months of no Wallet access, I decided to fire up the app again and this time everything is working well! I don't know when but Google must have either found a way around the ISIS sim card or fixed a bug. Hard to say at this point if AT&T was actively breaking the N4 NFC. Whatever it was, it's now working beautifully!
flintdragon said:
After many months of no Wallet access, I decided to fire up the app again and this time everything is working well! I don't know when but Google must have either found a way around the ISIS sim card or fixed a bug. Hard to say at this point if AT&T was actively breaking the N4 NFC. Whatever it was, it's now working beautifully!
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I've never had a problem with Google wallet on AT&T. But I do believe when the phone first came out an update to the app was needed to get it to work on any network. The update came out around the time of your first post. Here is an interesting article on Google Wallet and Verizon as Verizon does actively block it on their network.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...why-the-carrier-is-still-allowed-to-block-it/

UK Tap-To-Pay?

So, aside from the hacked version of Google Wallet that we can't easily top-up, has anyone managed to get any NFC payment systems working on their Nexus 4 in the UK? There seems to be a few around but it's all a bit.... confusing to say the least.
Anybody got anything?
The only one I have working is orange quick tap which is actually a barclaycard app on my galaxy S3 allows NFC payments been using it for a while now , tried to install the apk onto my N4 but its not supported yet .
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NFC payments UK
So is there anyway I can take advantage of the NFC in my lovely N4 to pay for stuff in the UK? It'd be a real shame if not.
hp1 said:
So is there anyway I can take advantage of the NFC in my lovely N4 to pay for stuff in the UK? It'd be a real shame if not.
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Still nothing?
It's been ages and there's still no visa paywave app.

[Q] Google Wallet Tap to pay

Does anyone know if any LG devices are or ever going to be able to support the tap to pay function on google wallet? According to google support it is only supported on devices with a secured nfc chip, which the lg g2 has,
When I contacted LG, they pretty much dodged the question and acted like no one should ever use google wallet in the first place, then told me it is totally up to the Carrier, in this case Sprint, then they said they do not provide support for Sprint subscribers...
Then I contacted Sprint and they said it was up to google which phones would have google wallet, i then explained a little deeper and they told me it would definitely be up to the manufacturer.
I played their little game and called the manufacturer back, played the call recordings for them and he said he would submit a ticket. I asked if maybe it was going to be included in the kitkat update and he said I would have to check my phone....
Needless to say, I got no where.
So I am just curious, DOES ANYONE HAVE TAP TO PAY ABILITIES WITH AN LG PHONE?
On the AT&T and T-Mobile variants tap to pay has been removed. Sprint is a Google wallet partner so I imagine it will be available with kitkat.
Works just fine on 4.4.2 roms. Problem is that Isis doesn't work.
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Thanks for the quick answers...I wish I would have known before I got this phone. I sold my s4 and got the lg g2 for $150. On my way home I needed gas but I didn't have any cash on me and knew I had some money on my google wallet account, but I could not get tap to pay to work. While waiting for someone to bring me gas money I made all those calls hoping for a good answer, to no avail. I ended up having to close out my wallet account to get my money, but that only took four days.
So when you say it works on 4.4.2, is that aosp, aokp? or which one? I was trying to find one that was closest to stock, but they're all named pac-man, etc. I wish there was one that was straight aosp, any suggestions?
I am using CM 11 right now. Paranoid Android is very nice as well. They are mostly AOSP. To stay mostly stock seems to mean no wallet, at least for now. Once an official VZW KK comes out I would think both Isis and wallet will work. Fingers crossed.
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You can get wallet on there no problem even with a mostly stock Android.( Yes ATT and some others block tap to pay with it. However, look around, it works and you can get it working fairly easy. I have it running now and used it a Home Depot in Atlanta earlier today ). PA and CM11 as well as some others will work with it just fine as well. Wallet does NOT require a secure element on any phone since KK. It's now done via card emulation at the server side by google.
I use Power User Edition ROM and it works just fine on it. Based on an international rom I belive where it IS available.
ISIS works fine on the ATT phone. You just need to get a newer SIM from them if you haven't already.
Hosehead said:
I am using CM 11 right now. Paranoid Android is very nice as well. They are mostly AOSP. To stay mostly stock seems to mean no wallet, at least for now. Once an official VZW KK comes out I would think both Isis and wallet will work. Fingers crossed.
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I am not familiar with Isis, I have Sprint and we dont even get PC Suite to back up our phones, we have to root our phones and use a custom recovery to backup and restore, we don't have a choice. Paranoid Android is one that I was looking for, the problem is I don't think its available for the Sprint variant yet. With the galaxy S4, I was reading that the roms were interchangeable because of the GSM capabilities on Sprint variants now, but I tried installing a vzw rom to get PC Suite working to no avail, I guess I'll keep trying the Sprint thread, now that we have our own, I appreciate all the info
rkennison said:
You can get wallet on there no problem even with a mostly stock Android.( Yes ATT and some others block tap to pay with it. However, look around, it works and you can get it working fairly easy. I have it running now and used it a Home Depot in Atlanta earlier today ). PA and CM11 as well as some others will work with it just fine as well. Wallet does NOT require a secure element on any phone since KK. It's now done via card emulation at the server side by google.
I use Power User Edition ROM and it works just fine on it. Based on an international rom I belive where it IS available.
ISIS works fine on the ATT phone. You just need to get a newer SIM from them if you haven't already.
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I feel so lsot not knowing what Isis is, I'm new to the LG G2, there isn't much for software on the Sprint variant, I just checked out the Power User Edition thread, it looks awesome like exactly what I'm looking for, I'll have to keep checking the Sprint Original Thread looking for it, thanks for the info
Isis is just like Google wallet although it s a little bit more restrictive to what types of Cards you can use. For example I think it's only American Express and Wells fargo cards that you are able to add to the program in order to pay. I'd choose Google wallet over that any time
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Extended controls app for free wifi hotspot on Nexus 6P on Verizon ?

Ok I have been reading around but I have what I think is a moot question but i have not heard it answered specifically before.
I currently have a Galaxy Nexus (completely stock) phone with grandfathered unlimited on Verizon. I use an app called Extended Controls from the Google play store and by turning on the widget app for wifi hotspot I have been getting free use of my unlimited for when I am working out of range of any decent wifi.
Since my device was not updated past 4.2.2 I am now wanting to buy the new Nexus 6P for Christmas ( I have had the same Galaxy Nexus for 4 years! - no case either).
From what I have been reading once I get Verizon to give me the new sim and add me to the account to maintain my unlimited (after I pay full price ) I will no longer be able to use this app to gain access to my free wifi hotspot.
It seems that other people's methods (foxfi etc - I never used any other besides Extended Controls) no longer work but I have not seen anyone here mention having used Extended Controls.
So my questions are :
1) when I get the Nexus 6P - will I have to use root in order to obtain the free wifi hotspot as some others have mentioned?
2 ) is there a safe rooting for dummies yet for the Nexus 6P which is just about foolproof?
3) What is it that Verizon did that now blocks those apps - which we used before - from working now?
So I currently use about 28 - 35 GB per month so moving off unlimited is out of the question at this point. I stream music at my job - in a building where there is no wifi allowed - and I do it in my car as part of my cummute (45min - 1hr ) getting to work. I cannot imagine buying a $650 phone as nice as the Nexus 6P and not having the ability to use my unlimited the way I still do now.
I have done a few searches in the 6P thread but I didn't see anyone mention the Extended Controls app not working and they don't say it does work on the Google Store.
thank you in advance for anyone to steer me in the right direction. At this point I will be lucky to get a 6P by Christmas and hopefully by then have a few days vacation to figure out how to get the phone working like I need it to work.
Hmmmmm, if memory serves me correctly (had the same phone, same plan from vz - but over 2 yrs ago), I never had to use an app for hot spot - but - I unlock/root as soon as I get a device and run custom roms/kernels.
So, again, if I remember, part of vz tweaking the os is hiding the Android native hot spot feature. So, by getting stock Android, you'll have that feature, and shouldn't need any special apps - you can even add a tile to the quick settings drop down to switch hot spot on/off.
If I also remember, there was an entry added by some carriers in a database on the phone that would check if hot spot was allowed by the carrier - when carriers would charge separately for hot spot data. Most if not all custom roms at the time were kind enough to fix that for ya - yet another good reason to unlock and root.
What you could try is - cutting down your present SIM - and just using it in the new device. My understanding is if you already have an activated SIM, you can just use it in a new device, no need to get vz involved - which is always a good thing imho.
I'd Google - cut down SIM - you'll get tons of info and how tos on the subject. I'm planning on doing this when my 6p comes in.
Lol - this is what I said to Verizon when I got my n5 2 years ago;
"I've been waiting about 15 years to say this - cancel my forking account"
Verizon never had coverage where I lived, not even calls, so I was paying $125/month for 2 lines - pay for each text, sharing like 700 minutes talk between 2 lines - and never really able to use any of it!
Unlimited talk/text and 5 gigs a month fit $45 on straight talk now - and I can make calls and text from home now. Would never go back to Verizon!
Phazmos,
Thanks for the reply but I am probably still a little confused.
If I remember correctly when the Nexus 6 came out many did what you suggest - cut their sim to fit - but the phone didn't always register as an official verizon device. Unfortunately my company provides me with a 17% discount on my monthly bill but only if you can prove that your phone is officially on the network. Verizon actually calls me every year to reverify it.
I am not sure how Extended controls works on the 4.2.2 version Galaxy Nexus I have now but I am pretty sure that it turns on the wifi hotspot without Verizon knowing about it. If I go straight to the "portable wifi hotspot" part of my settings then it comes up with the same error as everyone else on Verizon without wifi hotspot enabled. But "this .99 app- Extended Controls - just turns it on ... on the sly.
If the new version of the 6P has that feature and I just turn it on then Verizon will charged me. - I am already going to have to eat the extra $20 per month.
I am planning on buying the phone through Google but I will have to talk to a couple of the main Verizon stores here to guarantee that they will turn on my new sim (I am scared of cutting my current sim- what if I **** it up then I have no phone not even the Nexus!)
I have heard of people convincing the store manager to activate their new micro sim in a store model and then put it in the phone.
I am so leary of spending $650 and then having them refuse to activate it correctly.
Also I have always been afraid of rooting because I figured that right out of the box I could have a brand new $650 brick on my hands.
What I do know is that I cannot continue with this dinasour that I have now! It is way past it's prime days.
I really would like to switch over to something like T-mobile but even here in Northern VA - their coverage lacks in too many areas that I travel to.
mhughes1966 said:
Phazmos,
Thanks for the reply but I am probably still a little confused.
If I remember correctly when the Nexus 6 came out many did what you suggest - cut their sim to fit - but the phone didn't always register as an official verizon device. Unfortunately my company provides me with a 17% discount on my monthly bill but only if you can prove that your phone is officially on the network. Verizon actually calls me every year to reverify it.
I am not sure how Extended controls works on the 4.2.2 version Galaxy Nexus I have now but I am pretty sure that it turns on the wifi hotspot without Verizon knowing about it. If I go straight to the "portable wifi hotspot" part of my settings then it comes up with the same error as everyone else on Verizon without wifi hotspot enabled. But "this .99 app- Extended Controls - just turns it on ... on the sly.
If the new version of the 6P has that feature and I just turn it on then Verizon will charged me. - I am already going to have to eat the extra $20 per month.
I am planning on buying the phone through Google but I will have to talk to a couple of the main Verizon stores here to guarantee that they will turn on my new sim (I am scared of cutting my current sim- what if I **** it up then I have no phone not even the Nexus!)
I have heard of people convincing the store manager to activate their new micro sim in a store model and then put it in the phone.
I am so leary of spending $650 and then having them refuse to activate it correctly.
Also I have always been afraid of rooting because I figured that right out of the box I could have a brand new $650 brick on my hands.
What I do know is that I cannot continue with this dinasour that I have now! It is way past it's prime days.
I really would like to switch over to something like T-mobile but even here in Northern VA - their coverage lacks in too many areas that I travel to.
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Registering as official may be a problem - a problem with most any unlocked device. Carriers, vz in particular, can be real touchy about devices not supplied by them.
Oh, took a look at that app on play store - guess what - I also bought that app! Had to be like 3 or 4 years ago! Was surprised to see "purchased" when I found it. But, I didn't have to use it for hot spot, not after unlocking/rooting and loading custom roms.
I never used hot spot much, mostly when our network would go down - I'd for up the hot spot to get a few co-workers internet access till it came back up, and I'd just use native Android hot spot. That tells me you have the database thing going on. If I remember, that would send the native hot spot through a certain gateway (I think) and if you didn't have access, browsers would be redirected to the "sign up for hot spot" page from the carrier.
I also thought most carriers, vz included, didn't care about hot spot usage any more. There was a BIG stink about that a few years back - as in you're paying for data - how you use it is up to you, not the carrier. As I recall, there were a few law suites from users.
Anyway - since the new device isn't carrier supplied - or approved as they like to call it, you'll have other issues when going the new SIM/imei not in their database route.
A note on SIM trimming - it's super easy - and if you do screw it up - tell them you lost service and tried pooping the SIM out, then you dropped it and the dog ate it and get another! They want your $$$ - believe me - they'll give you another. I'd even "mention" to them you're gonna get this device - which works on any carrier, and mention att, tmobile and any other carrier - and you'd be more than happy going to a carrier that does support the device. Again, they want your $$$, they'll accommodate - and try to get ya to a new limited data plan - beware!
And a note on unlocking/rooting - real easy and real reliable on that device - same for any nexus device, especially if gotten from Google. The nexus line is actually for developing the os and apps. You could say it's made to load custom Android versions - when you want to test, you do it on a nexus.
PS - I resurrected my gnex a few months ago - loaded lollipop on it and gave it to my sister as her droid x2 finally died. It ran it pretty good for an old timer! Just like I run pretty good - for an old timer!
Good luck!
Wow you rooted your old Galaxy Nexus and got Lollipop running? Interesting.
Maybe after I get the newer phone I will experiment on the old nexus. The screen actually still looks pretty good. it is just the way it operates on the older software that makes me want to throw it in the Potomac.
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Wow you rooted your old Galaxy Nexus and got Lollipop running? Interesting.
Maybe after I get the newer phone I will experiment on the old nexus. The screen actually still looks pretty good. it is just the way it operates on the older software that makes me want to throw it in the Potomac.
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I did, actually unlocked/rooted a week after I got it. As soon as some development started happening, I started loading roms. Nexus devices get the most love from devs, there was a lollipop version available, so away we went. Once you're unlocked and rooted and have a custom recovery, loading roms is basically a matter of downloading it and installing it. Pretty painless.
Don't know if you've seen lollipop, but it finally made Android a beautiful looking os - Android lost the acne and grew up, so to speak. And since newer Android is made to work on many different devices with lots of different hardware, it's made to run on minimal, or marginal, hardware. The gnex certainly fits into the minimal hardware category now days.
I forgot to mention yesterday, there is another thread here - what to expect from Verizon - I think it is, where questions like this are being actively discussed.
You may get more info there - you're not the only 1 wondering about Verizon. Googling - 6p on Verizon - also gets an article or 2 on the subject. That's where I got some of my info (I've been in technology close to 20 years now, so I'm the go to tech guy for a lot of people, including more than a few Verizon users).
And always remember, there's a work around for everything, ya just gotta find it!
Oh, surprised to hear the screen was still good. The gnex had a horrible screen. Amoled displays have come a looooong way since the gnex. Mine w had a horrid blue cast to it, especially when turned down, and was starting to burn in. Never noticed the blue till I got my next phone, the nexus 5. On that the whites were actually white - I almost fell over - it was that much of a difference!
To prepare for new 6P and nano sim you can buy a Sadapter Sim to Nano Sim adapter. Buy this quality brand only.
Visit a Verizon company store mention you'll be getting a new phone, one with nano sim like iphone or moto-x, and would they activate a new nano sim for you so you are prepared to plug and play when you get new phone. In meantime insert nano sim and adapter into your Gnex. For above you might get better cooperation going to Bestbuy vs Verizon.
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For activating Hotspot while bypassing Verizon check, it is to be determined if any current apps like Foxfi will work. You will probably need to do the build prop edit for "tether provisioning" mentioned elsewhere. You can prep for this also by downloading tools (adb & fastboot) and Drivers to your PC.
There are some Guides on XDA to walk you through steps to get to and through the "tether provisioning" bit.
Thought I might add a little to the conversation based on my experiences... I recently updated from my Nexus 5 (which I loved) to the Nexus 5x. on my unrooted Nexus 5 Wifi worked wonderfully with ATT as my carrier. On my updated Nexus 5x I can turn on the Wifi hotspot and bluetooth network sharing - HOWEVER it is buggy and the throughput is not good. A few of the bugs are I cannot turn on the wifi hotspot via the quick tile, only from the settings menu, the first time I select the hotspot a toast message pops up stating it is checking with carrier then flashes off and I have to turn it on again at which point it does come on. I actually get better speed from the Bluetooth network sharing...
so from what I have read the Nexus 6p is the same in this area as the Nexus 5x so you may want to look at getting a Nexus 5 which would be a great update from your phone and can run Android Marshmallow - I am strongly considering going back...
I have a nexus 6p, and cannot use my hotspot (I'm on an AT&T based MVNO). The phone will say "please contact AT&T to enable hotspot". There are workarounds (at least as of android 6.0.1) for non-rooted phones, such as ejecting the sim card, reinserting it, and quickly activating hotspot before the phone has a chance to provision (confirmed working if your timing is right), but this gets annoying really fast. There is no other way to override this check at this time on the stock ROM, which is really disappointing. I don't know if other MVNOs will be the same, but I'm really disappointed Google chose to take this path

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