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I am in a total dilemma now guys and just looking for a quick bit of advice...
I have mentioned on other threads about my concerns with a couple of features on the phone. (Camera, messages not sending, constant internet connection etc) and although maybe minor complaints they are causing me to seriously think about sending it back tomorrow. If I do I may just plump for the cheaper hero on a shorter contract and play the waiting game.
Do you think it is worth hanging on to this device in the hope that most of these issues will be resolved? When do you think the first fixes will come out?
Don't get me wrong, I think this is a fantastic device but these minor issues are really getting to me now.
I am going for some rest and looking to make my decision with a clear head tomorrow morning but any thoughts advice would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers folks
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I am in a total dilemma now guys and just looking for a quick bit of advice...
I have mentioned on other threads about my concerns with a couple of features on the phone. (Camera, messages not sending, constant internet connection etc) and although maybe minor complaints they are causing me to seriously think about sending it back tomorrow. If I do I may just plump for the cheaper hero on a shorter contract and play the waiting game.
Do you think it is worth hanging on to this device in the hope that most of these issues will be resolved? When do you think the first fixes will come out?
Don't get me wrong, I think this is a fantastic device but these minor issues are really getting to me now.
I am going for some rest and looking to make my decision with a clear head tomorrow morning but any thoughts advice would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers folks
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I don't believe the message problem happens on T-Mobile......at least I've not had a single unsent message, also my internet has been completely glitch free. I haven't had a single connection issue with IM, or through Opera.
The camera problem is a software issue, probably related to the flash. Similar problems have occured in early Nokia firmwares.
I'm still not 100 percent happy with the HD2, but then I'm used to the Apptastic iPhone and its plethora of social networking apps. In time HTC will fix the bugs in the device. My only other concern is that Windows Marketplace picks up from the complete pile of s**t that it is at the moment and starts to properly compete with Android and Apple instead of just ripping people off with a paltry array of ho-hum apps.
Just an FYI, HTC have confirmed that the fault with the camera is hardware related, and not software related and the only way of remedying this is to send the device back for replacement/repair.
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/htc-hd2-camera-problems
I am currently on 2.3. And I was thinking of updating to 2.3.1 but can someone please explain is it safe and stable??? And pls someone explain what are the actual updates in 2.3.1 over the 2.3.0. I have heard that there is improvement in browser (like less lag in scrolling etc.) Is it as smooth as iphone? Can someone confirm it? And should i go for the update?
Cheers...
C'mon guys, can anyone here just answer my question? What are the exact changes from 2.3.0 to 2.3.1, and is it worth upgrading? Coz i will only update if there is no lag in browser after that. Coming from iphone 4 i see a significant lag in the browser otherwise the phone is quite good and lives up to the hype. A quick and thorough reply will be highly appreciated.
Also suggest me some good exclusive android apps, if possible.
really man, cmon its an official update from Google..why wouldnt you update...
All reports say that its just bug fixes and updates Google Maps to version 5.
More specifically Paul @ MoDaCo says about the update, "Super quick Nexus S OTA update (GRH78) analysis -changes to framework.jar, kernel and Maps.apk. That's about it."
That's about as specific as you're going to get short of Google publishing an official changelog.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
Since I have updated to 2.3.1 I have a lot of apps missing from the market. I would read the thread about missing apps before I update. It is 4 days later and they are still missing.
Google has their work cut out for them; there are a slew of bugs/issues/glitches with Gingerbread. Looking forward to 2.3.2.
I am new to the Nexus line (in other words, I never owned a Nexus One); how often do these minor updates get sent out? The 2.3.x ones.
Thanks for the replies at last guys. My main concern with 2.3.1 is the bugs associated with it, like missing apps from market and stuff. And i wanted to know more about such issues before upgrading. I am new to Nexus S and even with Android as an OS. I am quite impressed with it as a platform but i must say it's not as smooth of an experience as iphone, these small glitches and bugs are quite annoying to say the least.
I think as a general rule with a vanilla Android phone, if reliability is your main concern, incremental updates are probably a good thing, but you may want to think twice about going to a new version of the OS. That's the trouble with being on the cutting edge, you're liable to get wounded. I expect it'll be several updates yet before all the kinks in Gingerbread are worked out.
My main issues with Gingerbread are the random ringtone changes, difficulty in moving app icons on the home screen, sometimes disappearing icons after attempting to move them, some scrolling lag/issues, weird gallery issues like missing photos or photos in odd orders, etc.
These are recurring issues that primarily only happen with Gingerbread - for example, I can move app icons perfectly fine with AWD.
Gingerbread needs far more bug fixed than what 2.3.1. brought.
I just got my Nexus S today and also have the missing media bug in the gallery! Twice it's happened where there'd be nothing displayed in my gallery apart from the last picture taken with the camera! Only hard restarts have solved this so far...
I've updated and not seen any problems so far.
Hello everyone, I'm creating this thread in hopes of successfully porting Touchwiz UX from the Galaxy Tab 10.1 to the Asus Transformer. It has been done before but to the Acer Iconia Tab A500. Anybody that is interested in helping me please shoot me a PM. I would prefer to assemble a team, but I will try it on my own none the less.
I'll update this frequently with my progress.
Update 8-11-11
I have decided that I will try to integrate Touchwiz UX into an existing build of honeycomb made specifically for the transformer, this way I won't have to worry about kernels. Actual work will begin on Monday as I am away. Would still like to assemble a team though.
Hey have you considered talking to these guys? I think they are trying to do the same thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1164880&highlight=touchwiz
Disregard this if you have already seen the other thread
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Hey have you considered talking to these guys? I think they are trying to do the same thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1164880&highlight=touchwiz
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I actually hadnt seen that, but regardless this really shouldn't be too hard, very similar HW, same screen res + size, I would really prefer to start fresh with maybe some influence from the Iconia port. Thanks though, Ill see if I cant find some of those devs who worked on that.
I'm subscribing to this one. This would be very impressive. Hopefully the guys from the other port chime in with how they did it.
I with we could just have the mini apps, and extra widgets(in addition to not overlayed) the menus and all look better on original honeycomb to me, grown up looking
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Good luck and thanks!
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Im no dev in any manner but i'll be willing to beta test.
TouchWiz UX on the Eee Pad Transformer sounds great. I will gladly beta tester.
Ported going to interface with applications such keyboard?
I do not like asus keyboard
Subscribes this thread
Im no dev in any manner but i'll be willing to beta test.
I'd like to help you to port it Do you have a gtalk account? Send me your contact..
i really hope something comes of this, there's almost $200 in bounty for a port in the other thread...
i have more hope now since gnufabio is looking at it.
Go Fabio! we know you can do it.
wanna be a beta tester ^^
I am willing to Beta test and help with the port where I can.
I want try this Please send me beta test
I will help beta test also.
I'm no coder, but I am willing to be a beta monkey!
I have Japanese TF101.
Im no dev in any manner but i'll be willing to beta test.
Great, we have a thread full of testers, and no devs, haha. This puts us in the exact same spot we were in before. =\ I guess I'll give it a go then.
Please refrain from asking to beta test until the developer offers up a beta. I thought there was some serious progress and its just pages of potential testers.
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Anyone familiar with how to get past signature issues? Here is what I've done so far:
-Started with a Prime 1.6 base
-Diffed Prime vs. Samsung ROM, copied important missing things to Prime ROM
--This got me booted, but FC city
-Decompiled framework for Prime and Samsung, compared the two and merged any completely missing classes into Prime
--Then I looked for any errors being caused by missing classes that require more detailed merging of classes
--android.policy.jar, framework-res.apk, framework.jar all had merges needed
Now I'm at this state:
-Launcher2 does not FC, have some samsung widgets working
-The Samsung SystemUI.apk FC's, so you have no status bar showing at bottom
--It seems like all the mini apps are still failing for various reasons, including some failing signature/certificate verification checks so android does not even try to run them
--Added a new font to the fonts folder for one of the FC's, but still complains it is not available. Anything extra I need to do to get the extra font recognized?
I'll post a logcat in a bit after it charges some.
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Anyone familiar with how to get past signature issues? Here is what I've done so far:
-Started with a Prime 1.6 base
-Diffed Prime vs. Samsung ROM, copied important missing things to Prime ROM
--This got me booted, but FC city
-Decompiled framework for Prime and Samsung, compared the two and merged any completely missing classes into Prime
--Then I looked for any errors being caused by missing classes that require more detailed merging of classes
--android.policy.jar, framework-res.apk, framework.jar all had merges needed
Now I'm at this state:
-Launcher2 does not FC, have some samsung widgets working
-The Samsung SystemUI.apk FC's, so you have no status bar showing at bottom
--It seems like all the mini apps are still failing for various reasons, including some failing signature/certificate verification checks so android does not even try to run them
--Added a new font to the fonts folder for one of the FC's, but still complains it is not available. Anything extra I need to do to get the extra font recognized?
I'll post a logcat in a bit after it charges some.
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Good work, my guess is that most of those errors, such as the status bar missing is to do with the TWframework.apk thats were the public class and png is for the modified status bar. Just my Thoughts.
Dan
I was waiting for this tablet to go below £300 as I thought it would be better than the xoom and other tablets. I then came to this website to learn about the ICS problems and sort of regretting purchasing it now for two main reasons.
I purchased one tablet for my dad who wanted to watch sport (on a website I know of when the whether is bad it affects the sky connection on the tv).
After reading about the problems with the ICS tablet, I'm thinking I should return his tablet. It has not been used but I suppose he won't know what to do if it does any of the ICS problems as he doesn't use laptops or computers but I thought a tablet would be good for him as it is touch screen.
I also bought one for myself for when I go visit my parents instead of taking my laptop with me, but if it is going to keep on being buggy it will be of no use.
Should I return both? Or should I keep mine and return my dad's, or keep both? What are the most frustrating things after the ICS update? Was it all working smoothly before that?
Zero problems with the update, ran it for quite a while until I switched roms, only for features. I'm not sure how or why so many people have problems, but I'm sure you're gonna be able to hear more about one's who did have problems than ones that didn't, since if it was fine, you wouldn't post anything about it.
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There are only people complaining here because they have the problem. People that don't have any problems, including me, don't come here and try to tell that to the others they just use their tablets like intended. Trust me, the people that DON'T have problems are the majority. ICS is much much MUCH better than Honeycomb/Gingerbread, it's smooth and intuitive.
At least try it out on the tablet and if you don't see spontaneous reboots every 10 minutes (like some people that didn't wipe their tablets properly here) you should return it. ICS is heaven for me, it made my tablet the way it was intended to be.
EDIT: As mentioned, WIPE before you update! It will decrease the chance of problems by 99%!
Inb4 knoxploration or jtrosky replies to this thread and says ICS is terrible and everybody has problems with it.(this is not inflammatory since they both have me on ignore)
Look, pretty much every tegra2 tablet has people experiencing these problems with ICS. It isn't just exclusive to Asus transformer. However, the majority don't experience any issues.
If you are really that worried, just get ipads. But there are people who have problems with ipads too.
That is such a relief to hear! I hope our two tablets don't have any problems.
How do I wipe before updating? Sorry I am new to these terms.
I don't really want an ipad, no flash and that's what we use when browsing websites.
Thank you anyway for the relief. I thought it was in most tablets, but knowing many people also don't have these problems is good I hope.
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That is such a relief to hear! I hope our two tablets don't have any problems.
How do I wipe before updating? Sorry I am new to these terms.
I don't really want an ipad, no flash and that's what we use when browsing websites.
Thank you anyway for the relief. I thought it was in most tablets, but knowing many people also don't have these problems is good I hope.
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As soon as you take the tablet out of the box, update to ics before you do anything with it.
I could be wrong because I have never taken an OTA update but it might be safer to just download the full ICS update file from Asus website instead of letting your tablet download it on wireless.
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I could be wrong because I have never taken an OTA update but it might be safer to just download the full ICS update file from Asus website instead of letting your tablet download it on wireless.
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I'll wait for more opinions on this before I update so I can decide.
Thanks for your reply.
What ICS problems? List them, I have no idea what they are since I haven't run into any.
ICS has been fine for me, not a single crash, no problems. Only thing I get is the flickering screen with the screen cut into two primitives once in a while. No big deal, flickering stops after two seconds. Happens mostly when I go into the YouTube app for the first time.
Go update the tablet to ICS as soon as you start using it, then go into the settings and do a factory erase. You probably won't need to do a factory erase if you haven't used it but if you have any issues later someone will tell you to do one anyway. Might as well just do a factory erase after updating to eliminate the possibility that any problems caused later are the result of not doing a factory erase at which point you'll have to do a factory erase and download all of your apps and set up your settings again anyway.
Just go to "About Tablet" and check for updates. Install the update and after that wipe the tablet so it goes back to completely stock ICS.
It's just that when you're on Honeycomb and go to ICS you might have some bits and pieces that are left over.
I don't think the ICS from Asus could be that bad.. I mean, when people first got the 3.2 update (or was it 3.1), that was when I first got my TF. I updated ASAP and never had any problems (I also didn't know about XDA so I didn't know that people had problems). Don't worry... the negativity from other people will make you feel like it has problems lol.
I too am NOT having those problems others are having on ICS. There are also workarounds found that have been working for some who do have problems.
If you have one of the more coveted serial numbers (NVFlashable), probably better to sell it to someone else than return it back to the shop, if you end up going that route.
horndroid said:
Inb4 knoxploration or jtrosky replies to this thread and says ICS is terrible and everybody has problems with it.(this is not inflammatory since they both have me on ignore)
Look, pretty much every tegra2 tablet has people experiencing these problems with ICS. It isn't just exclusive to Asus transformer. However, the majority don't experience any issues.
If you are really that worried, just get ipads. But there are people who have problems with ipads too.
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I've never posted before that i have a problem with ICS (this is my first post stating that i have problem after the second ICS update). It is not safe to assume that only people experiencing problems post/whine here. In my family we have three TF101's and all of them have sleep of death and random reboots. So, what does that (three from three) say to us? We would think twice about next purchase from ASUS. We have contacted them and they are circling us around (another negative point).
But that is not the point; the point is how to extrapolate what is the current rate of failure of ICS in regard to SOD and RR. For that i would need a huge pool of votes ...
I do not want to generalize either, based on our current experience with ASUS (three out of three = 100% failure rate) and say that overall TF101 ICS update is a complete failure.
All i can say is that you need to learn how to protect your investment (higher upfront cost sometime equates to better customer satisfaction). XDA forums are very good with isolating problems and fixing things. But for getting answer on statistics ...
Yes, I think trying to argue about which side is in the majority is a pointless discussion. As a wise man once said: never argue qualitatively what can be answered quantitatively. If someone wants a true answer, he or she would need to do the legwork. Forums like these are going to have higher incidence numbers because people end up on these forums when they are googling for solutions, which people without problems don't do. A proper sample would have to be from a more neutral population, like from Amazon perhaps.
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I'll have to get the tablet and see how it goes. I really hope it doesn't fail. The iPad is not a option for me since it is so limited.
bormasina said:
I've never posted before that i have a problem with ICS (this is my first post stating that i have problem after the second ICS update). It is not safe to assume that only people experiencing problems post/whine here. In my family we have three TF101's and all of them have sleep of death and random reboots. So, what does that (three from three) say to us? We would think twice about next purchase from ASUS. We have contacted them and they are circling us around (another negative point).
But that is not the point; the point is how to extrapolate what is the current rate of failure of ICS in regard to SOD and RR. For that i would need a huge pool of votes ...
I do not want to generalize either, based on our current experience with ASUS (three out of three = 100% failure rate) and say that overall TF101 ICS update is a complete failure.
All i can say is that you need to learn how to protect your investment (higher upfront cost sometime equates to better customer service). XDA forums are very good with isolating problems and fixing things. But for getting answer on statistics ...
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Were these tablets all updated from honeycomb or brand new?
SilverViking said:
Were these tablets all updated from honeycomb or brand new?
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All three bought about same time (may 2011) and updated from Honeycomb 3.1 --> 3.2 --> Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.
Mine did not experience any problem with the first ICS update. The second ICS update messed it up. The other two had SOD and RR problems right after the first ICS update ...
Take care,
Bormasina
Were these tablets all updated from honeycomb or brand new?
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Probably not going to matter. I think you're trying to get at whether the tablet came with ICS or whether it came with Honeycomb. If yours came with HC, you updated to ICS and then you factory wipe it, I don't see how it should be any different than if it only had ICS on it ever.
The problems with sleep of death, random reboots and battery draining probably have more to do with third party apps and roms than Asus IMO. I want to know if anyone experiences those problems running:
1. On stock.
2. Without third party apps.
Running stock is not so much to ask but running without third party apps is, since that's a huge part of the experience of having a device like a tablet or smartphone. But if you don't experience the issues without third party apps then the blame lies with either the third party app not being coded correctly or less likely the third party code is conflicting with the software or hardware Asus used in the tablet. If it's a third party app that's poorly coded that's causing problems there's nothing Asus can really do about that.
There's no guarantee your experience will be like mine or someone who has had nothing but trouble with it. But as you described you bought it for your father for sports. If all he's going to do with it is watch YouTube or watch sports on the browser and look up stats and plays, the probability of him running into problems on just a stock device is nil IMO. Just keep it.
By the way have you checked which revision or batch it is? Look for a long string of characters that starts with BXO where X is a number. You can find this on the unit itself as a sticker, on the warranty card or if you haven't opened it up: a sticker on the back of the box.
I had quite a lot of issues with the OTA ICS update. Lots of random reboots and SODs (almost daily).
I installed a custom rom (EOS build 12 at that time) which actually reduced the frequency of the crashes a lot. The tablet never died before it had been turned on at least 60h.
I updated later to EOS build 19, and quite quickly had a complete system freeze when I was using it. But, after that one freeze, its been rock solid and currently ticking at 175h uptime.
Theres no denying ICS has its fair share of issues, and SOD/RR is one of them and probably the biggest. It affects everyone differently.
Some have it very very often, some less frequent, some very rarely, and even some who never has it.
But as far as my experience go - the asus ota ICS is garbage, the custom roms are far far better in both functionality and stability.
I definitely dont think you should return the device just because of the asus ICS update. But in the end - its up to you to decide whether its such a big issue for you or not.
I'm running the stock 4.0.3 ICS and have not experienced a single problem. I am not running rooted at present, mainly because other android devices I have not runinto anything I wanted to accomplish that I cannot. That could change of course, but for now, I am delighted.
Don't forget that VPN L2tp Share Key is no longer working on ICS.
So if you 're going to use vpn then maybe tf101 is not an option.
Hi to everyone, got my phone yesterday, rooted unlocked and started off.
I come from some experience in the field (my first phone was an xperia)
and my stats show that I put effort and time into this community and am looking forward to start working on some projects.
(i am merely a builder not a developer)
Would anyone be so kind and nice to give me a picture of current development status?
Are there major bugs being worked on from cm incompatibility?
How come there is only one cm based kernel?
What are the most common problems that have been mostly encountered?
Thanks for your replies, happy to be here, take care
Rudjgaard said:
Hi to everyone, got my phone yesterday, rooted unlocked and started off.
I come from some experience in the field (my first phone was an xperia)
and my stats show that I put effort and time into this community and am looking forward to start working on some projects.
(i am merely a builder not a developer)
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Welcome to this forum and I hope you'll enjoy working with the community here
Would anyone be so kind and nice to give me a picture of current development status?
Are there major bugs being worked on from cm incompatibility?
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AFAIK, there aren't any CM bug now, there was a camera lag at start up weeks ago, but now it's solved,
the only thing left is that camera quality on AOSP-Based ROM is not as good as it is on stock Sony FW,
The great thing going on now is that we're gonna have official AOSP support from Sony soon (all thanks to @jerpelea)
check these:
Unified kernel for msm8974 devices
Xperia AOSP Project
these are still new and their early stages, and hopefully we'll start using them soon:good:
How come there is only one cm based kernel?
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To be honest, there aren't many devs how own or work for this device, even the cm-based kernel we have is ported from Z1 !
also I'm working on a brand new one with the latest features, but I think it'll take some time
What are the most common problems that have been mostly encountered?
Thanks for your replies, happy to be here, take care
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Well as I mentioned, we don't have any major problems, as this device can get whatever Z1 can get, and Z1 is popular
except for one thing! the double tap to wake feature can't be ported from Z1 to our device as the two devices don't share the same touchscreen!
That's all I can remember right now
if you need any help, I'm always available,
and I'm looking forward to seeing your work
Best Regards,
Omar.
Thank you very much for your long and exhaustive answer.
I did see a camera workaround in the cm system.
Has anyone tried porting stock camera to cm? (Is it the actual camera hal responsible for qualiy or Sony proprietary rendering sw on album(are pics better/worse in fact when viewed on PC or from the phone's album? We did that on the lg with great results..
What about device blobs for the kernel are they closed source or do we have support from Sony?
Thanks again for all the info
Cheers