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I like the idea of having a security pattern lock on my phone, but what I hate about the X10 (or it's an android thing) is if I do the security pattern I still have to slide the slider over to unlock the screen. Is there a way to configure this so I just use the unlock/security pattern as my unlock screen.
You guys understand what I mean?!
Jamolah said:
I like the idea of having a security pattern lock on my phone, but what I hate about the X10 (or it's an android thing) is if I do the security pattern I still have to slide the slider over to unlock the screen. Is there a way to configure this so I just use the unlock/security pattern as my unlock screen.
You guys understand what I mean?!
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alot of custom ROMS, you don't have to slide anything if you have pattern/password/PIN lock on. when you wake the screen you are greeted with whichever security feature you chose and you enter your pattern/password/PIN and you're in
So after a bit of digging around and research, I managed to find and enable Smart Lock. For those of you who didn't know, it's hidden under Security > Trust Agents. After you've enabled, a new 'Smart Lock' menu appears at the bottom of the Security settings menu where you can manage your Smartlock features. Interestingly, it also features the new 'on-body detection'.
So I set it up about 3 days ago but it doesn't always work for me and I'm questioning if it works at all. My lock screen is set to re-enable after 10 minutes of inactivity so it may just be that I logged in during this time and thought that it may be working. I have 3 differen't ways of using smart lock, all of which are enabled: 1= Bluetooth devices including my Moto 360 which is always connected 2=Location, my home address and 3=On-body detection.
But yeah, as I say, it doesn't seem to be working as 90% of the time, I still have to enter my pin to access my phone. Anyone else tried this or willing to test it out? I'm running the first N910FXXU1BOC3 release from Netherlands/Samsung Experience stock.
bumpy - Anyone!?
Went out of the country and decided to try it out, was working great, but here and there I noticed that the phone gets unlocked in the pocket on second day of using this feature, my pictures and music folder has been deleted, I suspect that it happened accidentally in the pocket... Don't have any other explanation. I would avoid this feature while traveling or if you have to pull out phone quite often.
I'm also having the same issue, mine doesn't work when using Smart lock with my Moto 360, it keeps asking for my finger print to unlock...
I have used On-Body Detection and I can say that it worked great from my point of view. One thing to mention, i don't keep my phone in the pocket of my pants, always pocket of my jacket so did not have any issues with unlocking by itself and performing random operations.
But on BOC3 i did notice that the phone was constantly awake and one of the things i tried was disabling on-body detection i can see now that the wakelock issue was resolved and i'm getting a estimated 3 Days left on 80% battery. From my point of view this is more important that unlocking the phone easier
And regarding the trusted devices part and pairing with a smartwatch, i don't see the security benefit of that as the Bluetooth range is quite big. From a security point of view, trusted devices based on a Bluetooth link is not a good idea.
Its not working at all for me with 'Trusted Devices' - I use my Motorola 360 as a trusted device and it all confirms its set up. The only change it actually makes though is that when I wake up my phone, I have to swipe up to access my pin entry screen. Whereas if I disable smart lock, I get straight to the pin entry screen! This was a completely clean flash of BOC5 (Lux) all data, system, cache, etc was wiped and formatted before install through ODIN.
maverick1103 said:
I'm also having the same issue, mine doesn't work when using Smart lock with my Moto 360, it keeps asking for my finger print to unlock...
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Iggy82 said:
Its not working at all for me with 'Trusted Devices' - I use my Motorola 360 as a trusted device and it all confirms its set up. The only change it actually makes though is that when I wake up my phone, I have to swipe up to access my pin entry screen. Whereas if I disable smart lock, I get straight to the pin entry screen! This was a completely clean flash of BOC5 (Lux) all data, system, cache, etc was wiped and formatted before install through ODIN.
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Are you guys sure that you're using the feature correctly?
Swiping from the little lock icon on the bottom of the screen, brings back your specified secure lockscreen. It is a way to secure your phone again, even if a trusted device or other set conditions for Smart Lock are met.
Swiping from anywhere else on the screen should unlock the phone without any security checks.
Works 100% of the times for me.
Check out this video I made to explain it better:
Smart Lock works awesome on my phone. I have my truck's bluetooth as a trusted device and I set up my home as a trusted location. Both work flawlessly but one thing I had to do was add an additional location for my home along with the preset "Home" location I had set up in Maps a long time ago. It wouldn't work until I manually added the 2nd home location.
It's a great feature.
iridaki said:
Check out this video I made to explain it better:
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Thanks!
It's just not intuitive. I didn't think to swipe outside the lock ring.
Is it possible ty by-pass unlock screen completely, when in "trusted zone"? Without root.
I'm currently using KNOX and have lockscreen disabled.
If I enable lockscreen (to check its features etc), to disable it again I would have to delete my KNOX container.
keekooceeaou said:
Thanks!
It's just not intuitive. I didn't think to swipe outside the lock ring.
Is it possible ty by-pass unlock screen completely, when in "trusted zone"? Without root.
I'm currently using KNOX and have lockscreen disabled.
If I enable lockscreen (to check its features etc), to disable it again I would have to delete my KNOX container.
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I suppose it's a matter of personal preference, I like the idea of being able to quickly secure my screen without, for example, disconnecting my BT earphones. Plus, it's more difficult to aim for the little lock icon than to actually swipe in the middle of the screen.
I am not sure about your question as I don't use the KNOX container, sorry! It sounds though as a security measure that is not possible to bypass. But I could be wrong.
iridaki said:
Are you guys sure that you're using the feature correctly?
Swiping from the little lock icon on the bottom of the screen, brings back your specified secure lockscreen. It is a way to secure your phone again, even if a trusted device or other set conditions for Smart Lock are met.
Swiping from anywhere else on the screen should unlock the phone without any security checks.
Works 100% of the times for me.
Check out this video I made to explain it better:
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Thanks for sharing, I figured it out in the end and forgot to post back with the answer, I couldn't believe I didn't realise it straight away ?
maverick1103 said:
Thanks for sharing, I figured it out in the end and forgot to post back with the answer, I couldn't believe I didn't realise it straight away ?
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Took me a few attempts too, can be confusing at first!
iridaki said:
Took me a few attempts too, can be confusing at first!
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Still it's the one main feature I have been waiting for with lollipop which I'm glad I have now!
iridaki said:
Are you guys sure that you're using the feature correctly?
Swiping from the little lock icon on the bottom of the screen, brings back your specified secure lockscreen. It is a way to secure your phone again, even if a trusted device or other set conditions for Smart Lock are met.
Swiping from anywhere else on the screen should unlock the phone without any security checks.
Works 100% of the times for me.
Check out this video I made to explain it better:
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Brilliant, it does work! It was purely me swiping up from the lock icon like you say! Doesn't seem very intuitive but I'm just glad it's working! I owe you a beer!
Two questions about the lock screen and security for those in the know.
1) Any easy to use free app that will change the lock screen security automatically either based on time or location? When I get to work, I change my lock screen to pattern security and when I leave work I turn it off. It's a pain to do this each day manually.
2) With the above, even if I had to do it manually, is there a way to keep the settings somehow so I don't have to do the pattern twice and then a pin number for backup twice, each and every time I set it to pattern lock?
Thanks for any help. I know there are a few different programs like Tasker, but they seem fairly complicated and I can't find a way to set security like this.
As you said, tasker is very useful to do things like that. Try it. It's easy and you won't regret.
I never could figure out Tasker. Maybe I just need more time with it.
Trying smart lock right now. I wish there was a way to say "don't trust this location" but trust every other location. I just want my phone locked at work.
Are you on lollipop? If so enable Google smart lock in security-trusted agents then check out security-smart lock
Sent from my SM-N910F
xrayA4T said:
Are you on lollipop? If so enable Google smart lock in security-trusted agents then check out security-smart lock
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Ha ha....guess you missed the second line of my post above yours?
First my fingerprint scanner works perfectly 10 out of 10 times it recognizes my finger,
but sometimes the lock screen take me straight to pattern lock and the message "device administrator locked device" appears on the screen.
why it is happening and what is the meaning of that?
Do you use an exchange account on it? if so, it is possible that adminstrator policies from that are nor considering the Fingerprint a viable security for the phone. Or it may force the pattern after a certain amount of time
pickupman66 said:
Do you use an exchange account on it? if so, it is possible that adminstrator policies from that are nor considering the Fingerprint a viable security for the phone. Or it may force the pattern after a certain amount of time
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No.. I don't use an exchange account, thanks.
Are you using the FingerPrint Quick Action app? What are your current Device Administrators, knowing what devices are permitted to lock your screen as an Administrator will help you identify the culprit.
Donjuanal said:
Are you using the FingerPrint Quick Action app? What are your current Device Administrators, knowing what devices are permitted to lock your screen as an Administrator will help you identify the culprit.
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I don't use FingerPrint Quick Action app..
I attached a screenshot of my Device Administrators..
I have disabled them for now to see if it was the cause of the problem.
Avshalom210 said:
I don't use FingerPrint Quick Action app..
I attached a screenshot of my Device Administrators..
I have disabled them for now to see if it was the cause of the problem.
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screen off and lock is the culprit, any device administrator that locks your screen will require a pin to unlock regardless of fingerprints or smartlock configuration.
Donjuanal said:
screen off and lock is the culprit, any device administrator that locks your screen will require a pin to unlock regardless of fingerprints or smartlock configuration.
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Yes you are right!! but how can I turn off my screen with an app and not dealing with this sh*t?
Avshalom210 said:
Yes you are right!! but how can I turn off my screen with an app and not dealing with this sh*t?
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The app in question needs to turn the screen off via root. The fingerprint quick action app does just this.
why do you need an app to turn off screen? is your power button dead?
pickupman66 said:
why do you need an app to turn off screen? is your power button dead?
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I just want to replace the home button long press from google now (or now on tap) to turn the screen off..
I did it with the "Screen off and lock" app but it caused the pattern lock "issue".
Nova Launcher will allow you to do a double tap to lock the screen. It will either lock it without use of fingerprint or it will set up a black screen and time out to use your device security or it has a root abilities to lock your device and use device security.
sent from my pixelated Nexus 6p
pickupman66 said:
Do you use an exchange account on it? if so, it is possible that adminstrator policies from that are nor considering the Fingerprint a viable security for the phone. Or it may force the pattern after a certain amount of time
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get shortcut lockscreen in firmware (I using Huawei P9 emui 5.0 Android 7.0)
Power goggle is great and the only problem is the same screenlock problem as you described.
Avshalom210 said:
First my fingerprint scanner works perfectly 10 out of 10 times it recognizes my finger,
but sometimes the lock screen take me straight to pattern lock and the message "device administrator locked device" appears on the screen.
why it is happening and what is the meaning of that?
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Strange
This is intended behavior on android 7+. Tested on Galaxy S5 with 7.1 Linage, Huawai Mediapad M3 and Galaxy S8+
However there is an app for samsung edge ( not sure if all edgy phones, tested on s8+ ) that can lock the screen without using device administrator. The app in question is Softkey Edge for Edge Panel, installed from galaxy app store. It allows the phone to be unlocked from fingerprint, without pin or pattern as nova prime screen lock gesture for example. And without root.
So there is a way to lock screens without device administrator, we just need to find it.
It's strange. I did not have this problem ever. I had to reload my phone because Oreo update blew up some programs I use a lot. So I downgraded, and now I have this problem.
I don't see anything in my Device Administrators that would cause this. And I haven't added any new programs for quite a while.
i have the same problem .after i unistalled screen off and lock application ,after working fine.
santhosh215 said:
i have the same problem .after i unistalled screen off and lock application ,after working fine.
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I presume that is a third party app. I don't have that to uninstall.
I found that the app "Files", a Huawei system app, giving this problem when marked as a device administrator. Disabling it's device administrator privileges solved the problem for me. Who would have thought Huawei's own app gave this problem.
I now lock my screen using Greenify's Sleep & Hibernate action, set up to be activated with a double-tap under Nova Launcher's gestures settings. No problem waking up and using fingerprint. Of course, Greenify must not be a device administrator as well. There are other ways to shut down the screen if not using Greenify.
hyborian said:
I found that the app "Files", a Huawei system app, giving this problem when marked as a device administrator. Disabling it's device administrator privileges solved the problem for me. Who would have thought Huawei's own app gave this problem.
I now lock my screen using Greenify's Sleep & Hibernate action, set up to be activated with a double-tap under Nova Launcher's gestures settings. No problem waking up and using fingerprint. Of course, Greenify must not be a device administrator as well. There are other ways to shut down the screen if not using Greenify.
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Can you help with how it is made?
I have a Fire tablet I am going to use as a home automation control centre. I have it configured to wake when close to it(using camera as motion sensor) and everything else the way I want. The only thing I can't figure out is how to remove the lock screen. Even though I don't have a PIN on it, when I wake up the tablet it always goes to a lock screen in which I have to swipe up to get to the home screen. Is there anyway to remove the lock screen so it wakes directly to the home screen?
Thank you.
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killarneygetaway said:
I have a Fire tablet I am going to use as a home automation control centre. I have it configured to wake when close to it(using camera as motion sensor) and everything else the way I want. The only thing I can't figure out is how to remove the lock screen. Even though I don't have a PIN on it, when I wake up the tablet it always goes to a lock screen in which I have to swipe up to get to the home screen. Is there anyway to remove the lock screen so it wakes directly to the home screen?
Thank you.
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Unfortunately without root access you cannot access the settings option that will allow you to remove the lock screen. as of the moment there is no way to launch that setting without root access.
DragonFire1024 said:
Unfortunately without root access you cannot access the settings option that will allow you to remove the lock screen. as of the moment there is no way to launch that setting without root access.
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That's what I was afraid of. Thanks for confirming.