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Hello everybody, It´s been like a week since I last posted, a lot of things went wrong in my house and I somehow lost all my computers
anyway, back in business again, Last night I had to install the stock Sprint GB sbf, to my surprise it worked Really, Really good.
I´ve had a Defy+ and a Milestone 2, And I remembered having lots of issues with modding aka. no signal, wifi issues (like the cm7 and 9 ones) data issues, system lags, poor battery life, kernel errors on development, Overclocking settings not being saved, recovery mess-ups, and a lot of depicable stuff, most of all kernel-related.
Anyway, last night I flashed the stock rom over cm7 and noticed a real speed, functionality and battery boost, so I thought of just theming, de-bloating and optimizing the stock Sprint ROM.
Please follow me here:
We will never be able to flash custom kernels (not w/o the help of a reaaaaal good DEV)
CM9 &10, though they are eye-candy, are based actually on Gingerbread kernel, so no new features can be added besides the ones you can get withg new apps.
CM7, though stable, lacks the performance and functionality of the stock rom.
Finally, the stock rom as I said, (and I´ve tested TONS of ROMS in different motorola devices) is the one with the best responsivenness, snappiness and battery life, plus It's almost clean (eg. bloatware is easily removed.)
How will it be done?, you may ask.
Well Our first step, will be deodexing the stock GB SBF.
After deodexing we will be optimizing the build.prop on our phone, to trick apps into installing on our phones, and to make some quick optimizations.
Once we have deodexed our rom, we will be able to run,autorun and theme /system/apps.
Apps like Gnow, the statusbar and other tweaks can be easily (RELLY EASY) ported to deodexed ROMS
So this is the challenge guys, Let´s build our own stockcustom ROM.
So far I´m re-flashing stock sprint GB to continue testing only the essential apps, so we can build from there.
And just for a tease; here is my latest build.prop, with some tweaks and tricks taken from other roms and my personal experience, just make sure you have root access, fire up a file explorer and replace your build.prop
Please Refer to next post for links on how to maybe help me with deodexing the full rom.
And please, developers, dont take this as a shady move towards your development, I just think that the best way to make something is to start from scratch..... there are too many source files, modded files and crap files on cm7,9&10 specially when not officially supported (Because everybody messes with the files and re-distributes them, so a lot of clutter and unneeded files, references and code are injected on some releases....)
So my friends, we have a common goal, By now I have succesfully overclocked/undervolted the phone to 1350/233 mhz (not on recovery!!)
I´ve deodexed system/framework/
and Im stuck trying to deodex system/apps/
Xprt Owners of the world, please come on over here, we can do this...
I´m an architect/artist so I really want this to have a sleek look, but not copying a specific stock look, if you know what I mean....
From now on refer to the "wished features post" for features you´d like
And now my final statement:
Though it IS possible to compile JB or ICS from source to our phones, my experience with this somehow outdated android motorolas, is that you will not get significant performance boosts or super cool functions with new software. The only way to get this functionality is by upgrading the kernel which I again declare IS NOT POSSIBLE on our phone. CM9 and 10 my look like JB and ICS, but run straight off a GB kernel.
Yes you will get a lot of new stuff like menus and graphics, but the functionality will be the same, plus all the eye candy will trade off your new features with lags and possible errors.
Software is built in time with devices, and it doesn´t matter how much you say "but the hardware is capable of more!!", incremental software updates "ignore" some HW features, so they have to be forced or modified to run, which adds more procesess/tasks to the kernel and this will suck your speed and battery.
Let´s build something pretty...............:laugh:
Hello everybody, and welcome to the world of modding.
From today, we will be coordinating an army of people to work towards a common goal: Having the best ROM for our phones, and surviving the day.
The tools you absolutely need:
Brain
Hands
Eyes
Text-comprehension.
Be a self-troubleshooter
Advanced Google skills
Patience
Some Weed
First of all I will just oversee the topic: ODEXED vs DEODEXED
In simple words, Odexed systems have XX.apk and XX.odex, which store certain app properties (like icons, colors, fonts, menus) so that they wont be messed up with, thus making the system more stable, Deodexed systems, have only APK´s with their icons, colors and behaviors packed on, thus making theming, modding and using alternative system apps easier.
If you would LOVE to read about the subject, please refer to this: http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/what-is-odex-and-deodex-in-android-complete-guide/
Well, now that you are totally aware of the odex-deodex situation, you might ask yourself..
-how the phuck do I deodex my system??????
Well, deodexing implies merging the .odex properties onto the apk.
Hey!!!! but how???
you need brains, patience, Java SDK7, Android sdk, and music.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1852322 this instructions are for deodexing.. good luck....
To save your time, you need Android SDK and JSDK properly installed, you need xUltimate (Try and find the version that works on you), and you need the patience and willingness of Sidharta.
Ive tried already 5 versions of xUltimate to find out errors on different files!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2065270This will tell you some other basics on the xultimate deal.
There are other ways to deodex, help me google that.
We will be based on the stock 1FF-p3_kronos_cdma_kronos-user-2.3.5-4.5.1-110-KNS-46-49-test-keys-signed-Sprint-US SBF....
I would love to develop something good to both sprint and boost, but I have a Sprint handset, so I cannot assure our development will work on boost handsets, so please just sprint handset owners only for now.
For xultimate errors and troubleshooting, please refer to Google.com!
Ive been up all last night deodexing my system apps, and found out that most google related apps cannot be deodexed...
maybe that's why you need to install gapps in cm7 or other custom roms...
anyway people, let's get fully deodexed.
Make sure you have both Android SDK and Java SDK 7 PROPERLY installed oin your pc before trying this.
Cheers, luck and please reply
One last thing, I dont know if it is related somehow, but try to flash your stock rom without a SIM card inserted
Quick update: I Think I´ve got it figured out....
You need full Android SDK, and Java development kit, Android sdk tools alone wont do it, and java alone wont do it, you need developer runtimes and libraries for some programs like xultimate to run right.....
And you need not to activate, use or anything your phone before trying to deodex, I guess just starting up and entering simple things as the time, or having a sim card installed, or your google account can write data on the phone and mess up with the deodexing process.....
xultimate has already deodexed full framework and has passed from the yesterday´s troublesome google quick search box...(first thing to fail last night) so let´s hope it goes well.. it is indeed a loong process...
and just another error, but now I think I have it figured out, you need smali-baksmali assembler/disassembler for some specific .jar packed files... I´ve just installed it, and hopefully will post a fully deodexed stock rom today or tomorrow, for you to test and for us to start theming.
remember if you want to try... you need jdk not just java, you need full android sdk bundle, and you need smali/baksmali on your jdk installation for it to work properly...
%#%"!!!
This completely sucks, I´ve been trying to troubleshoot the errors xultimate is throwing at me on specific files, that lead me to download A LOT of java JRE and JDK versions, and both in x64 and x32 flavors, which apparently caused a major mixup on my PC´s guts....
Now I´m freaking trying to clean up my dev enviroment, trying to re-set the appropiate paths and classes, but hell with it...
Anyone succeeded??? please let me know if you´ve tried and if you get into any error can you please upload a screenshot???
thanx
Sounds like hell. I haven't tried, because I just don't have enough time in the day to do something like this. Plus, the xprt is my only phone, so I can't afford to experiment on it much.
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tzuba12 said:
Sounds like hell. I haven't tried, because I just don't have enough time in the day to do something like this. Plus, the xprt is my only phone, so I can't afford to experiment on it much.
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Same.
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are you trying to deodex the stock rom?
rongsang said:
are you trying to deodex the stock rom?
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yes sir, but in the mean time I managed to patch it with the battery mod, power menu and ICS style notifications
If I can deodex it I think I can improve it a little bit more in terms of performance and looks and functionality , but my powerful pc is a zombie right now, this is no task an old notebook can handle
I have deodexed it a long time back but sadly I can't upload it now. You can run kitchen from cygwin and it will deodexed your rom completely.
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Ive used the kitchen and xUltimate with no good results mate!...
I always get smali errors or heap size errors despite I was using even a 4gb heap size, and tried using different versions of smali baksmali....
I am beggining to think I´ve been cursed by the digital gods.
BTW, if you´re able to upload it, I´ll be very thankful dude! I think Im going nowhere right now
Hello everyone,
I am new to the Nexus 4 community however not new to XDA. I have survived an HD2 and also a T989 GSII. I have had so much success with XDA and I am looking forward to working with community of folks over here. I got a Nexus 4 (being delivered Monday) to enjoy the Android experience. However the more I look over it the more I feel it lacks some of the features that I enjoyed with previous custom roms like Toggles on the notification panel for example. I know there are many apps that will accomplish the same thing but why use all these 3rd party apps when you can flash a decent rom and get a better experience with often better battery life. I am coming from an All Star Developer ROM that is a compilation ROM ( CM10, AOKP & PA )
I apologize for the rambling. I need to know:
1: What is the difference between Original Android Dev and Android Development forums? GSII did not have two forums so I was a little confused.
2: For a genuine NEXUS device, are there still bugs in ROMS? RR, SOD, GPS not working, etc? This is not a huge issue with most GSII roms I just wondered if you guys experience this at all with this phone being stock Android already. I wouldn't think this would be the case.
3: I have done my research and I am ready to move on with rooting and probably Romming. Is there anything else maybe that would be noteworthy that is specific to the Nexus line of devices. This is a vague question so don't worry with it too much. I am just curious.
Thanks everyone! I can't wait till Monday!
jcnbama said:
Hello everyone,
I am new to the Nexus 4 community however not new to XDA. I have survived an HD2 and also a T989 GSII. I have had so much success with XDA and I am looking forward to working with community of folks over here. I got a Nexus 4 (being delivered Monday) to enjoy the Android experience. However the more I look over it the more I feel it lacks some of the features that I enjoyed with previous custom roms like Toggles on the notification panel for example. I know there are many apps that will accomplish the same thing but why use all these 3rd party apps when you can flash a decent rom and get a better experience with often better battery life. I am coming from an All Star Developer ROM that is a compilation ROM ( CM10, AOKP & PA )
I apologize for the rambling. I need to know:
1: What is the difference between Original Android Dev and Android Development forums? GSII did not have two forums so I was a little confused.
2: For a genuine NEXUS device, are there still bugs in ROMS? RR, SOD, GPS not working, etc? This is not a huge issue with most GSII roms I just wondered if you guys experience this at all with this phone being stock Android already. I wouldn't think this would be the case.
3: I have done my research and I am ready to move on with rooting and probably Romming. Is there anything else maybe that would be noteworthy that is specific to the Nexus line of devices. This is a vague question so don't worry with it too much. I am just curious.
Thanks everyone! I can't wait till Monday!
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1. "Development is classified as original work and/or documented edits and changes made to others work (with their permission) that makes it your own.
Stock ROM dumps that are modified (deodexed, etc.) from the manufacturer's original intent and then repackaged together classifies as development.
Kernel's and Recovery obviously classify as development as they are modified and compiled from source""
2. Minor bugs here & there, nothing like the ones you're used of. Read the OP & last 20 posts in the thread.
3. follow the link in my signature, do not use toolkits!!
Good luck, it's an amazing phone!
Vangelis13 said:
1. "Development is classified as original work and/or documented edits and changes made to others work (with their permission) that makes it your own.
Stock ROM dumps that are modified (deodexed, etc.) from the manufacturer's original intent and then repackaged together classifies as development.
Kernel's and Recovery obviously classify as development as they are modified and compiled from source""
2. Minor bugs here & there, nothing like the ones you're used of. Read the OP & last 20 posts in the thread.
3. follow the link in my signature, do not use toolkits!!
Good luck, it's an amazing phone!
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Thanks for the info! I guess more specifically I need to know the difference between the "Original" Development thread and just the "Development" thread. Should I refer to one more than another?
Also, in reference to toolkits. I am just curious where the issue lies with that? Because honestly that is exactly what I was going to do. I am not lazy, just efficient lol. I figure why do alot of manual driver installs and command prompts if someone created a program that would do it for you? (I reference links below) Is it faulty software? Badly written programs etc? I would think there would be more room for human error when doing it yourself vs. something automated. What are your thoughts on this? Has anyone else had luck using the toolkits in the links? or any other rooting toolkits? Thanks again!
http://lifehacker.com/5979763/how-to-root-the-lg-nexus-4#13634416619583&{"type":"iframeUpdated","height":640}
http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
jcnbama said:
Thanks for the info! I guess more specifically I need to know the difference between the "Original" Development thread and just the "Development" thread. Should I refer to one more than another?
Also, in reference to toolkits. I am just curious where the issue lies with that? Because honestly that is exactly what I was going to do. I am not lazy, just efficient lol. I figure why do alot of manual driver installs and command prompts if someone created a program that would do it for you? (I reference links below) Is it faulty software? Badly written programs etc? I would think there would be more room for human error when doing it yourself vs. something automated. What are your thoughts on this? Has anyone else had luck using the toolkits in the links? or any other rooting toolkits? Thanks again!
http://lifehacker.com/5979763/how-to-root-the-lg-nexus-4#13634416619583&{"type":"iframeUpdated","height":640}
http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
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Because, you learn something very important while rooting & unlocking your phone. Human error is covered for by the step by step guide. Human error while using the toolkit, you're stuck trying to understand what the fck happened. Learn fastboot mate. Learn to control your device to a 100%, learn to fix it if it's stuck. Understand what happens with "fastboot OEM unlock". Do you know what that means btw..?
The difference between Original Development & Development is in the quote I posted above. Paranoid Android = Original.
TWRP Recovery = Original
"XYZ" Rom based on cm 10.1 + abcd theme = Development.
Vangelis13 said:
Because, you learn something very important while rooting & unlocking your phone. Human error is covered for by the step by step guide. Human error while using the toolkit, you're stuck trying to understand what the fck happened. Learn fastboot mate. Learn to control your device to a 100%, learn to fix it if it's stuck. Understand what happens with "fastboot OEM unlock". Do you know what that means btw..?
The difference between Original Development & Development is in the quote I posted above. Paranoid Android = Original.
TWRP Recovery = Original
"XYZ" Rom based on cm 10.1 + abcd theme = Development.
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Hey thanks again. I appreciate the input. I have more to learn in the NEXUS forum. I am used to ODIN and other forms of Samsung software so I will certainly read over the tutorial and absorb information. It will also help me to share my knowledge with others.
jcnbama said:
Hey thanks again. I appreciate the input. I have more to learn in the NEXUS forum. I am used to ODIN and other forms of Samsung software so I will certainly read over the tutorial and absorb information. It will also help me to share my knowledge with others.
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If nothing else, you owe it to yourself as a proud n4 owner!!
How would ROM deving work for this type of phone where people choose their own specs?
now that i think of it, how would there be updates either? its like a one and done process. so if you buy the phone, you'll stay on the Android version that comes preloaded
I am thinking towards windows kind of update model but free this time.
Only thing is can we modify Linux kernel for enough flexibility.
NaveenKumarXDA said:
I am thinking towards windows kind of update model but free this time.
Only thing is can we modify Linux kernel for enough flexibility.
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Might be able to work if the MDK enforces a unified modular structure. And extra parts of ROM's would target some v heavy/popular modules.
I think you ubuntu may be the way to go.
Since my knowledge is really limited, if Google and manufacturers cooperate for open-hardware and open-source environment, it will be like installing drivers on a new OS. So everyone can use latest version of Android. Am I right or really really wrong?
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I could imagine an official update method in which the used modules are recognized and the update fits perfect to that phone or the modules have anyhow universal usable drivers stored on themselves while you can change them without re-flashing the entire rom.. what do you think?
Surely if all the componets are made by the same manufacter the roms would be universal but with some roms being heavier for the powerfuller phones and lighter for cheaper phones
It will be harder. There will be bloated kernels that account for unused modules. Likely to be devs that tune to a specific hardware set [their's], etc. But w/ a diy modular phone, they'll probably be no shortage of developers.
A cooler way would be to enable more run as module on kernel and have each module self-load its drivers [like plug-n-play]. This could avoid the kernel bloat I aluded to earlier.
Rob
insink71 said:
A cooler way would be to enable more run as module on kernel and have each module self-load its drivers [like plug-n-play]. This could avoid the kernel bloat I aluded to earlier.
Rob
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I agree with this, or maybe if the system can build the driver files on startup or installation. but then you will be looking at stall's and system freeze if it's interrupted. (just mentioned something similar in another post lol!):fingers-crossed:
If the bootloader can report the serial/models of the components, the kernel can turn on and off what's needed or not. From there yes, there will be a ****ton of modules to compile even if half aren't used. We can also expect to see hybrid kernel drivers doing different things based on some data returned by the actual component (e.g. 16GB vs 32GB storage) -- assuming those components work the same.
Maybe they'll make a new OS for this, kinda like Windows OS. It's supposed to be universal, no matter what kind of parts are installed.
The rom devs can list the minimum specs for the rom so the user has at least the minimum for the rom
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Nope, it is said that you can change modules on the fly. Maybe there are just drivers in the plug in that are loaded first...
Maybe the compatibility to drivers coves with android 5.0?
Regards
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as people have said this wont be common outside the custom pc type market and if it don't support android in some from whether that be via a custom rom and recovery like cwm/twrp it will be a massive flop
i cant see why it cant come with a option that has cwm installed with a rom,them its attractive to coders
I really hope that they have the option for sales of just the outer shell. Then, people like me can custom select whatever they want without having to waste the stock modules which would then be rendered useless.
i hope they make a rolling system similar to how its done by Arch Linux where you start with just a base and let the owner select his own modules or let the user make their own module. that would be fantastic! i mean perfect!
pandasa123 said:
How would ROM deving work for this type of phone where people choose their own specs?
now that i think of it, how would there be updates either? its like a one and done process. so if you buy the phone, you'll stay on the Android version that comes preloaded
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I think there will only be ROMs for certain phone combinations
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The modularity will be programmed into the OS. Wether that part goes open source or not is another question.
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all parts will be class compliant iirc, meaning each new OS/rom only needs have generic drivers, anything that isn't class compliant needs to carry its own drivers, i could be wrong but im sure thats what he said in the interview with the first working spiral 1
I may be a bit crazy in thinking this.
But I'd LOVE project ARA and Cyanogenmod to partner and have their CM OS on the ARA modular phones. Imagine we could have theme chooser on the device. And customise it exactly to our liking.
inside and out in this case.
But alas it's only a pipe dream.
Hi,
I'm currently on cm-11-20131207-NIGHTLY-mako.zip and wanted to dirty-flash omni-4.4.1-20131208-mako-NIGHTLY.zip.
But when booting Android I get lots of messages like "android.database.sqlite.SQLiteException: Can't downgrade database from version 589832 to 524296" - among others for dialer, mms, settings storage - and Android reboots.
I understand why these messages appear and why Android won't start properly. I also know that the only real issue here is the DB versions, not some compatibility problem.
My actual question/request is: Are there any plans to bump the db versions to be compatible with CM11 to enable easy transition from CM to Omni? If not, maybe that could be put on the wishlist?
Regards
XlAfbk said:
Hi,
I'm currently on cm-11-20131207-NIGHTLY-mako.zip and wanted to dirty-flash omni-4.4.1-20131208-mako-NIGHTLY.zip.
But when booting Android I get lots of messages like "android.database.sqlite.SQLiteException: Can't downgrade database from version 589832 to 524296" - among others for dialer, mms, settings storage - and Android reboots.
I understand why these messages appear and why Android won't start properly. I also know that the only real issue here is the DB versions, not some compatibility problem.
My actual question/request is: Are there any plans to bump the db versions to be compatible with CM11 to enable easy transition from CM to Omni? If not, maybe that could be put on the wishlist?
Regards
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No. Dirty cross-flashing between firmwares is NEVER supported. Only upgrades from the same project. (In theory, you should be able to safely transition from 4.3 Omni to 4.4 Omni unless we screwed up. I know I successfully took my Tablet Z from 4.3 to 4.4 without issues other than some Google Calendar derps)
XlAfbk said:
Hi,
I'm currently on cm-11-20131207-NIGHTLY-mako.zip and wanted to dirty-flash omni-4.4.1-20131208-mako-NIGHTLY.zip.
But when booting Android I get lots of messages like "android.database.sqlite.SQLiteException: Can't downgrade database from version 589832 to 524296" - among others for dialer, mms, settings storage - and Android reboots.
I understand why these messages appear and why Android won't start properly. I also know that the only real issue here is the DB versions, not some compatibility problem.
My actual question/request is: Are there any plans to bump the db versions to be compatible with CM11 to enable easy transition from CM to Omni? If not, maybe that could be put on the wishlist?
Regards
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Actually, it is a compatibility problem. The version of the database is really the version of the schema, not the version of the database program. The schema basically describes the tables in the DB and the columns in those tables. Different ROMs may have different tables due to different settings and features, and they're not compatible. In some cases where one ROM is literally a fork of the other it may work but generally this is not the case.
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Actually, it is a compatibility problem. The version of the database is really the version of the schema, not the version of the database program.
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I understand that, should maybe have phrased my question differently: Any plans to update the db schemas to be in line with CMs?
As stated I'm well aware of possible compatibility problems and am willing to fix/clear data for individual apps, but for testing a new ROM i'm not really willing to do a factory reset just because ~5 dbs may be incompatible and their apps may FC.
Entropy512 said:
No. Dirty cross-flashing between firmwares is NEVER supported. Only upgrades from the same project. (In theory, you should be able to safely transition from 4.3 Omni to 4.4 Omni unless we screwed up. I know I successfully took my Tablet Z from 4.3 to 4.4 without issues other than some Google Calendar derps)
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This does work in practice, as I did that w/ my "Tempest" flavor of Omni. 4.3-4.4-4.4.1 without any factory resets.
But I agree with Entropy. Never dirty flash. I keep an up-to-date Titanium Backup with all the user apps backed up, personally, and Accounts info/WiFi Networks/BT Pairings. Then, when I flash a new ROM, I have TiBa in a flashable zip and GApps, and I'm ready to go in just a few minutes after a factory reset.
XlAfbk said:
I understand that, should maybe have phrased my question differently: Any plans to update the db schemas to be in line with CMs?
As stated I'm well aware of possible compatibility problems and am willing to fix/clear data for individual apps, but for testing a new ROM i'm not really willing to do a factory reset just because ~5 dbs may be incompatible and their apps may FC.
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No, the only way to achieve this is to be an exact clone of CM - which we are not.
XlAfbk said:
I understand that, should maybe have phrased my question differently: Any plans to update the db schemas to be in line with CMs?
As stated I'm well aware of possible compatibility problems and am willing to fix/clear data for individual apps, but for testing a new ROM i'm not really willing to do a factory reset just because ~5 dbs may be incompatible and their apps may FC.
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Describing what you are asking in a simpler to understand analogy:
"I'm moving from New York to California, can I have the exact same interior layout and just drag and drop everything into the same location in my new home?"
You already know the answer, but in technical sense you are asking the omni team to plan and architect their interior design to the same as CM. Architects in New York and California will have completely different visions, based on the goals of the community they support.
It should not be standardized IMO.
Re install the stock filmware
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I have broken my htc one I got from my brother so I am back to using the sgs4 I have, never planed to use the htc one for so long it just happens that way because of the speakers I used it to play music at work anyways I am going to use the sgs4 and root/rom it
I have rooted/romed in the past with my sgs1 using cm9 and used odin so I understand most thigns
not sure what info is useless here since I have been out of this for a while now, I actually posted about this same topic a while ago but then I got a htc one and with my ADD I forgot about this
Code:
Android 4.3
Software L720VPUEMK2
Hardware: L720.08
Baseband L720VPUEMK2
Kernel 3.4.0-1927016 [email protected]#1 Sat Nov 16 11:05:09 KST 2013
Build JSS15J.L720VPUEMK2
SELinux Status: Enforcing SEPF_SPH-L720_4.3_0012
I assume I have to root first and then go from there - or can I just odin and have everything I need? I hate using odin so I want to use that as little as I can
do I have to odin since I have everything updated stock?
basically I am asking what do I have to do now, I have been reading for a few hours now and I have been out of this scene for a while now and its hard to get the answers by reading everything since there is lots of stuff not related to what I want and people have been doing this for a while and the phone has been out for a while now so its hard not being in this from the beginning
thanks for your help
leftkidney said:
I have broken my htc one I got from my brother so I am back to using the sgs4 I have, never planed to use the htc one for so long it just happens that way because of the speakers I used it to play music at work anyways I am going to use the sgs4 and root/rom it
I have rooted/romed in the past with my sgs1 using cm9 and used odin so I understand most thigns
not sure what info is useless here since I have been out of this for a while now, I actually posted about this same topic a while ago but then I got a htc one and with my ADD I forgot about this
Code:
Android 4.3
Software L720VPUEMK2
Hardware: L720.08
Baseband L720VPUEMK2
Kernel 3.4.0-1927016 [email protected]#1 Sat Nov 16 11:05:09 KST 2013
Build JSS15J.L720VPUEMK2
SELinux Status: Enforcing SEPF_SPH-L720_4.3_0012
I assume I have to root first and then go from there - or can I just odin and have everything I need? I hate using odin so I want to use that as little as I can
do I have to odin since I have everything updated stock?
basically I am asking what do I have to do now, I have been reading for a few hours now and I have been out of this scene for a while now and its hard to get the answers by reading everything since there is lots of stuff not related to what I want and people have been doing this for a while and the phone has been out for a while now so its hard not being in this from the beginning
thanks for your help
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Start here.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291827
Safe Root works great for our phone. Here is the link: http://www.droidviews.com/root-verizon-galaxy-s4-sch-i545-on-android-4-3-vruemk2/ . I know, it takes you off of xda, but you can root your phone with out using odin. It is quick and easy. You can then install a twrp through goo manager. No need to use odin for that. Good luck.
I used CF Auto root. Its awesome.
Then I used ROM manager from the market to flash in CWM.
In my reading I saw most.the recoveries being used were Philz and TWRP.
So after I let ROM manager flash CWM I DL.the latest Philz zip and flashed it from recovery.
Made many a nandroid and jump from TW to AOSP every day. *****The one thing you need to know is....have SE Linux checked under misc nandroid settings****otherwise it's no fun.
If you say "Please" be sure to "Hit Thanks!!!"
btoddweber said:
I used CF Auto root. Its awesome.
Then I used ROM manager from the market to flash in CWM.
In my reading I saw most.the recoveries being used were Philz and TWRP.
So after I let ROM manager flash CWM I DL.the latest Philz zip and flashed it from recovery.
Made many a nandroid and jump from TW to AOSP every day. *****The one thing you need to know is....have SE Linux checked under misc nandroid settings****otherwise it's no fun.
If you say "Please" be sure to "Hit Thanks!!!"
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so I have used cf auto root and installed cwm the rommanager that worked pretty well
I will assume that installing roms is the same as before after this
I am glad to see that things have been simplified here I will post back if I have problems again
I am wondering what is the best rom for me, I dont really care much if I have the touchwiz I used midnightrom and CM9 on my sgs1 epic before and loved it the lack of touchwiz wasnt a problem for me - I dont like any of the samsung apps at all and never want to use the sprint apps, I would not like it if the widgets go away I use those for my btc prices and my mining rig hashrate
I could use a stock rom for this phone if all the crappy sprint apps have been removed
like I said I have been out of this game for a while and at the time CM9 was just about the best rom out so I used that, all the others were good just didnt have as many features
leftkidney said:
I am wondering what is the best rom for me
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Everyone has their own preferences, so you just need to look at what's available. The great thing about Android is that there are so many options, but that creates a fair amount of work too. With root you can delete whatever app you want, so bloatware isn't much of an issue. To see what apps are safe to remove, most ROM developers post what they remove. You can also freeze the apps using things like Titanium Backup, so that you can easily restore them if you decide you want something back.
nobody291 said:
Everyone has their own preferences, so you just need to look at what's available. The great thing about Android is that there are so many options, but that creates a fair amount of work too. With root you can delete whatever app you want, so bloatware isn't much of an issue. To see what apps are safe to remove, most ROM developers post what they remove. You can also freeze the apps using things like Titanium Backup, so that you can easily restore them if you decide you want something back.
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yea I know there are lots of roms, what are some of the most stable roms out - I can see that the cyanogenmod is only nightly builds nothing stable is that a problem, I havent seen CM in this forums on the first few pages so is it not one of the better ones anymore?
what are a few of the most stable roms that have most of the features that would be needed - nothing that has strange glitches like in the past there were problems with GPS working and a few other things
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yea I know there are lots of roms, what are some of the most stable roms out - I can see that the cyanogenmod is only nightly builds nothing stable is that a problem, I havent seen CM in this forums on the first few pages so is it not one of the better ones anymore?
what are a few of the most stable roms that have most of the features that would be needed - nothing that has strange glitches like in the past there were problems with GPS working and a few other things
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What you are asking for is HERE in these forums. PLEASE do your own searching and research for these answers This particular question "..Best ROM" is one of the biggest no no's across all XDA.
Search, READ, experiment and you will find what suites you.
Good luck.
I am going to skirt the "best rom" issue and just drop a list of what has been good for me... If you try all of these you'll certainly find one that works for you. I have intentionally mixed up the order here to avoid hurting anyone's feelings.. LOL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521870
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588745
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512983
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312063
Take a weekend and try them all. Make backups of each as you go through them and your all set!
leaderbuilder said:
What you are asking for is HERE in these forums. PLEASE do your own searching and research for these answers This particular question "..Best ROM" is one of the biggest no no's across all XDA.
Search, READ, experiment and you will find what suites you.
Good luck.
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you are absolutely right I dont know why I even asked that "best rom" it was stupid I admit it I feel stupid about that one I dont want to say I mistyped but I wasnt thinking I totally understand the reason why its a bad question to ask and why there isnt a real answer so I am sorry and I do know its one of those things you dont ask I have read that in the past but I forgot or something
what I ment to say was mainly what roms are the most complete in the sense that they have all the things working that should be like gps/wifi/4g/lte things like that, in the past a few roms were missing things like that
are there any that certain apps wont work for? I use and rely on "no led" app I just love the way it shows the colored icons on screen
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what I ment to say was mainly what roms are the most complete in the sense that they have all the things working
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The big split in ROMs is between touchwiz and AOSP. Touchwiz is Samsung's layer on top of the core Android Google produces. Some features like multi-window, the standard Samsung keyboard, air gesture, etc. rely on touchwiz to work. I'm sure you can find a complete list of what relies on touchwiz to see if any of it is important to you. I think most ROMs will have all radios working, but like others have said, just make sure to have backups of your current setup to go back to and experiment, and since you already have the MK2 modem, make sure whatever ROM you choose is compatible with MK2. It doesn't take all that long to flash different ROMs and see what you think.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but custom ROMs just take existing modules and combine them to save you work. But, you can start with the stock rooted ROM and build your own experience from there too. Check out the hotspot mod, custom kernels, Xposed modules, various themes, and build something that works for you.
nobody291 said:
The big split in ROMs is between touchwiz and AOSP. Touchwiz is Samsung's layer on top of the core Android Google produces. Some features like multi-window, the standard Samsung keyboard, air gesture, etc. rely on touchwiz to work. I'm sure you can find a complete list of what relies on touchwiz to see if any of it is important to you. I think most ROMs will have all radios working, but like others have said, just make sure to have backups of your current setup to go back to and experiment, and since you already have the MK2 modem, make sure whatever ROM you choose is compatible with MK2. It doesn't take all that long to flash different ROMs and see what you think.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but custom ROMs just take existing modules and combine them to save you work. But, you can start with the stock rooted ROM and build your own experience from there too. Check out the hotspot mod, custom kernels, Xposed modules, various themes, and build something that works for you.
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so yea I dont really like the touchwiz interface I liked using the stock android theme my last phone had using CM9 so touchwiz isnt really needed
I do need to be able to use widgets though like the ones for apps that show me the prices of gold/silver my bitcoins/litecoins and the mining speed from my miners using the api I have - dont some of the widgets need touchwiz to work, not the touchwiz widgets but the ones that apps create
I have installed roms before so I know its not hard but once you get into this things can get out of control and after a while you find your self having to use odin and then things get scary cuz lets face it who really likes using odin unless something has changed from last year odin is just about the only thing that could really brick your phone if something goes wrong
thanks for your help I will give it a go and hope nothing bad happens
If you don't like touchwiz, but want the full functionality of you phone features. Why not use a different launcher? There are a lot to choose from.
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dont some of the widgets need touchwiz to work
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In my experience, there are Samsung widgets that not only require touchwiz, but also require Samsung's launcher. I use several widgets designed for multiple Android devices, and I don't think they care about touchwiz.
cruise350 said:
If you don't like touchwiz, but want the full functionality of you phone features. Why not use a different launcher? There are a lot to choose from.
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you mean just install a different launcher?
I dont want any of the sprint crap on the phone either no need for sprint news and all that crap
wouldnt just installing a different launcher just be a skin you cant remove touchwiz from what I remember so I need a rom that doesent have touchwiz in it
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you mean just install a different launcher?
I dont want any of the sprint crap on the phone either no need for sprint news and all that crap
wouldnt just installing a different launcher just be a skin you cant remove touchwiz from what I remember so I need a rom that doesent have touchwiz in it
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Yes, you had stressed earlier that you wanted all things working. If you want any of the S features to work on your phone than you need to keep touchwiz as your base rom. Installing a different launcher can give you that. If you like the look of AOSP, there is a new google now launcher that can provide more of an AOSP look. You can remove a lot of the bloat and sprint stuff fairly easily with TiBu or a root file explorer. Just be cautious, removing some of the Sprint stuff will screw up your phone and cause the ability to update PRL or Profile to fail.
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Yes, you had stressed earlier that you wanted all things working. If you want any of the S features to work on your phone than you need to keep touchwiz as your base rom. Installing a different launcher can give you that. If you like the look of AOSP, there is a new google now launcher that can provide more of an AOSP look. You can remove a lot of the bloat and sprint stuff fairly easily with TiBu or a root file explorer. Just be cautious, removing some of the Sprint stuff will screw up your phone and cause the ability to update PRL or Profile to fail.
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yea wanted all things working but I guess after looking at it I dont use much of the "S" features if at all so I will just have to try some out and see whats up
one thing I was wondering about is the "gapps" in the past I had to make sure it was the exact right one for the exact rom I was using but now I dont see much about saying a specific version of gapps for the roms rather just to install gapps and get the latest one - so the gapps that would be for the sprint phone should work for the roms?
I do however like the feature where you wave your hand over the screen when its off and it lights up to show you the time and info, it would suck if that went away but I can deal with it
I would like to know if there are any problems with using the samsung tec tiles, those NFC sticker tags with other roms that wouldnt have any touchwiz stuff
I assume that they are just NFC so they should work but I want to be sure
I havent installed a rom yet been busy - but I did get root
I noticed I have an OTA update waiting, I assume its 4.4 so if I update will I have problems rooting or remove root and make installing roms hard?