Has anyone made a haptic touch plugin for wm6 devices?
Would love the phone to slightly vibrate when I use the touch keyboard.
I'm on a htc diamond btw.
I think it would be cool too, but I think one of the biggest problems is the time delay between hitting the key and feeling the vibration. I also wonder about the effect on battery life... anyways I would still like to try it!
You might want to do a search because I remember reading about something like this but think it was for the dialer.
I will post here if I find the thread.
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Yea I am pretty certain one of the Iphone dialers is haptic or something...perhaps it's a dailer you have to pay for.
I have a couple kinda sorta solutions..
I'm at work so I don't have them here.. But I have one .cab that will vibrate when you press the number buttons on your dial screen, and it work's perfectly. And then I have an .exe that make's every screen tap vibrate, and it kinda sorta work's. I've looked for feedback programs for months, and have found nothing. The best thing i've determined which took me forever, is enabling screen tap sounds, and going into the registry and changing the default sound to vibrate instead.. I can also look up how to do this for you when I get home.. But really there's no good solution out there. On another note this would be almost considered tactile feedback.. Haptic feedback is crazy technology that deals with detecting the electrical current from your touch. That's why current PPC's are awful with this stuff, cause it doesn't have that technology, and most phones that say they do, don't, they just mimic it.
- Walter
Raven1467 said:
I'm at work so I don't have them here.. But I have one .cab that will vibrate when you press the number buttons on your dial screen, and it work's perfectly. And then I have an .exe that make's every screen tap vibrate, and it kinda sorta work's. I've looked for feedback programs for months, and have found nothing. The best thing i've determined which took me forever, is enabling screen tap sounds, and going into the registry and changing the default sound to vibrate instead.. I can also look up how to do this for you when I get home.. But really there's no good solution out there. On another note this would be almost considered tactile feedback.. Haptic feedback is crazy technology that deals with detecting the electrical current from your touch. That's why current PPC's are awful with this stuff, cause it doesn't have that technology, and most phones that say they do, don't, they just mimic it.
- Walter
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Tnx a lot walter, and thanks for explaining the difference between haptic and tactile
Posting a guide on changing the registry or giving me a link to the two programs mentioned over would be great.
Raven1467 said:
On another note this would be almost considered tactile feedback.. Haptic feedback is crazy technology that deals with detecting the electrical current from your touch. That's why current PPC's are awful with this stuff, cause it doesn't have that technology, and most phones that say they do, don't, they just mimic it.
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uh, not quite sure what "haptic" technology you're talking about, but any feedback of mechanical vibration would definitely be considered "haptic feedback". From wikipeida: "Haptic technology refers to technology which interfaces the user via the sense of touch by applying forces, vibrations and/or motions to the user."
Also, to address concerns a little further up the thread: If implemented correctly, there is no perceptible delay between screen contact and vibration feedback. Me and a couple friends whipped up a little test application based on the WM6 SDK's application template, wherein if you tap anywhere in the application window, the vibration motor is toggled for ~50ms (this can be adjusted based on preference, but 50ms was a nice barely perceptible 'thud' with each tap). The feedback is, for all intents and purposes, instantaneous. Also, since the vibrator is only active for 50ms, you'd need to tap 20 times before you've drained the same battery as a 1 second text message alert, or 40 times for 2 seconds, and so on... really, I think the battery drain would be negligible. Anyway, proof of principle for using the vibration motor for haptic feedback is there, and the affect is quite nice, but we never got much further because of a lack of time and programming knowledge. By the way, if anyone has any information on how to hook into touch.dll (which would be the proper way of implementing a system-wide haptic response), I'd be very interested in hearing about it.
This sounds a very interesting idea! Not every program visually responds to touch when operated with finger, so sometimes I was just left wondering did I make the touch? Did the touch go through? Then one or two seconds later (yes my phone is that slow) something happens. This should help if not eliminate that problem.
Here is the cab for the haptic-esque dialpad if anyone was interested
i've noticed that when haptics is on, it tends to vibrate only every other press
such intensive vibration is probably bad for your phone
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Also, to address concerns a little further up the thread: If implemented correctly, there is no perceptible delay between screen contact and vibration feedback. Me and a couple friends whipped up a little test application based on the WM6 SDK's application template, wherein if you tap anywhere in the application window, the vibration motor is toggled for ~50ms (this can be adjusted based on preference, but 50ms was a nice barely perceptible 'thud' with each tap). The feedback is, for all intents and purposes, instantaneous. Also, since the vibrator is only active for 50ms, you'd need to tap 20 times before you've drained the same battery as a 1 second text message alert, or 40 times for 2 seconds, and so on... really, I think the battery drain would be negligible. Anyway, proof of principle for using the vibration motor for haptic feedback is there, and the affect is quite nice, but we never got much further because of a lack of time and programming knowledge. By the way, if anyone has any information on how to hook into touch.dll (which would be the proper way of implementing a system-wide haptic response), I'd be very interested in hearing about it.
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That sounds pretty perfect. Would be nice if someone finished your project.
DiemetriX said:
That sounds pretty perfect. Would be nice if someone finished your project.
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I've installed this but can't find it anywhere. Looked in programs, personal and settings. I've even looked in the windows folder. I have an HTC Raphael.
Any pointers please...?
So I have this phone a week or more now and I have been having no issues whatsoever except for the battery timing being very low which I have came learn how to use more efficiently reading guides however I've come across a new problem..a problem that seriously driving me crazy
First of my phone hasn't been accidentally dropped or suffered any shock
So I've been texting and typing a lot with the phone and I loved the feeling of its haptic feedback which was very strong I think the intensity was maxed out but since last night I've been feeling it weird to type messages on it and I realized the phone hasn't been vibration back strong enough on its feedback and now vibrations is so weak It is really killing the joy, at first I felt that may be I'm being paranoid and nothing is wrong with it but after a good night sleep I am still feeling its Not intense enough for me,
I tried the screen test and the phone vibrates like a beast! but when ever it comes to using the keyboard the vibration is so low, on the intensity options the phone vibrates strongly but on keyboard its very low! I can't figure out what the problem is the vibrating is fine with other things but not with haptic feed back.. anybody know what I should do? is it a software or hardware problem? Its my first smart phone and touch screen experience and its really got ruined...
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Okay just found out something new when I used the Swype keyboard the haptic feedback got stronger so that means this isn't a hardware problem? but if its a software problem I have no Idea whats wrong with it cause I haven't done any updates on it, have reset the phone plenty of times but no avail..
Same here, except that I have used CyanogenMod ROM ( worked fine ) then restored a stock, KI3 backup. After restore I have the same behavior as you. I'll try to switch back to CM to see if helps
D: God the feedback is making it feel..so cheapish like it had a very strong vibration now it feels as if the vibrator inside is broken or something very light is vibrating..
in the start I was feeling the vibrations very weird like as if the vibrator isn't fit in the phone right but after I put the phone through vibration test the vibrations didn't have this jerkish feeling to them but now they are soo low and on swype God it feels so good but I hate using that keyboard .
CyanogenMod works fine, switching back to stock no. At least seems to be software issue
The haptic feedback on my device is very weak. I know how to increase the duration of the vibration on the keyboard, but is there a way to adjust or calibrate the haptic feedback for the capacitive touch buttons (home, back, launcher ect..)? I'm a little frustrated because my haptic feedback is barely noticeable when compared to my friend's Nexus 4.
UPDATE:
I just got off the phone with google. They stated that there's no calibration for the vibration intensity on file. I was issued an RMA. She seemed skeptical, however I own two Nexus 4 devices and explained how drastically different this device feels and how I can hardly feel the vibration of an incoming call. :-/ maybe these things do have build quality issues.
do you know if you can get haptic feedback when using the phone's dialer?
Have you tried a factory reset?
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
I did perform a software reset before calling google. I've been using android for a little under one year and I've noticed that seems to sort out most bugs. In this situation, the CSR felt that the vibration module is faulty (after I asserted my position). It's drastically different compared to the other Nexus 4 device. It's not the end of the world, but I kept missing calls from people and I would exit out of apps because i couldn't feel what was going on. It's amazing how reliant I've become to haptic feedback. I used to despise it.
This is probably the only biggest annoyance of Lollipop for me. Whenever I am on a call the proximity is so late to respond that when I take the phone in front of me from my ear/face the screen turns on after a good 2 seconds or something, on paper it might not sound like a big deal but in practical usage it's killing me. I am used to disconnect the phone as soon as I am done with the other person but for this there is a slight delay in that.
I am sure I am not the only one facing this issue, so what's the solution, if there is any? I am quite sure its software, cause on KitKat it was almost perfect.
Thanks in advance.
Hello all!
Anyone else notice that the keypress vibration is insane when typing? I tried SwiftKey and lowered the vibration to its lowest setting and it stays the same. Also tried G Board and it's still the same. I switched the vibration under setting for touch to light but same issue..
Same for me. After rooting and installing a custom kernel...it's possible to adjust vibration via a kernel manager.
Same here. I just put in for an RMA thinking my vibrator is defective because the vibrator is way too strong to be good haptic feedback for the keyboard. Every other OP has very fine tunability for key pressing. The OP5 is over the top! Not sure now if I should proceed with the RMA or not....
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Same here. I just put in for an RMA thinking my vibrator is defective because the vibrator is way too strong to be good haptic feedback for the keyboard. Every other OP has very fine tunability for key pressing. The OP5 is over the top! Not sure now if I should proceed with the RMA or not....
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Bro that is such a software fix, don't trip, mine vibration is strong on swiftkey too.
Rebel7022 said:
Bro that is such a software fix, don't trip, mine vibration is strong on swiftkey too.
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Does your vibrator also have a "long decay" whenever its activated? Like when I get a call or press a key, the vibrator almost feels like a spring and it doesn't stop as quickly as it starts.
This is why I felt the my unit may be defective. But it could just be the nature of this new more powerful vibrator. I was just surprised that nobody else (and our reviews) mentioned it until this lone thread.