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Hi there
My t-mobile contract ends within few weeks and I really want the HD2! My early upgrade offers were reallly bad, so I wait what they offer when the contract actually ends.. BUT - if I switch to other network... please let me know:
***Is there any difference in unlimited internet between T-Mobile (its fast on my Web&Walk!), Virgin, Vodafone?
***Customer service... Im really been happy with T-Mob, I had bad exp with Virgin but that was years ago... what you think?
***Any other plusses having HD2 with certain network?
Thanks guys and girls!
It depends on where you live and on the signal of where you are, there isn't a BEST NETWORK for a phone.
Yes- it's no good getting a cheap deal but finding yourself with no signal!
Mobile Internet: They all still advertise 'unlimited' but they all impose a fair usage policy.
Virgin, T-Mobile and Three have 1GB FUP; O2 say theirs is genuinely unlimited but they reserve the right to throttle the accounts of those they consider abusing the service; Vodafone and Orange both have a limit of 500MB.
but vodafone don't charge you when you go over 500mb unlike orange
I would say go with which ever network doesn't have the iphone clogging up the network but they all seem to have them now
fz9999 said:
but vodafone don't charge you when you go over 500mb unlike orange
I would say go with which ever network doesn't have the iphone clogging up the network but they all seem to have them now
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or you can actually use because they have the signal they advertise..
I can't wait to leave vodafone now, because I've found their coverage to be so bad, despite shown as getting 3g and told it was a temporary fault I find coverage at home to be poor to non existent, and 3g spots to be much smaller than stated often losing coverage outside any halfway decent sized town..
VF Customer service (business) are very good in my experience, until a complaint gets passed onto the network team when they start to come up with every excuse known to mankind.
Seriously tempted to just use my spare "3" payg sim when the contract runs out as I get full coverage and it's cheaper, and I get coverage 99% of the places I travel.
O2 work out quite a bit more than the others - you pay £100 for the HD2 on a £35/month contract, with 600 minutes talk and 1000 texts (if you order over the internet - 500 texts if you do the deal in store). This comes with the Unlimited Web bolt on (which normally costs £7.50), but this is limited to 500mb. And it seems you are charged if you go over this.
I've never dealt with O2, so my apologies if the info is wrong, but this is how I'm finding it.
I'm going to give mobilesphonesdirect a ring, to see what they can do the HD2 for as an upgrade on Tmobile. Tmobile want £340 for me to upgrade, or I can cancel and take out a new contract with m.p.d and pay £93 for the phone for £25 a month. That's £13 more for the phone than Virgin, but we're still not sure if Virgin throttle the data speeds more than Tmobile.
Final note - I'm more interested in the Internet on the phone, then texting with actual phone calls far behind. I talk to my misses enough in the house...
Towserspvm2000 said:
Final note - I'm more interested in the Internet on the phone, then texting with actual phone calls far behind. I talk to my misses enough in the house...
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I'm with Vodafone on their £20/month sim-only deal and worryingly I've found signal to be better where I live (which is advertised as variable outdoor coverage on their 3G map) than where I work (which is advertised as strong indoor 3G), so don't rely on their 3G coverage map service as the gospel truth.
I can achieve decent download rates via 3G, typically 150-200kbps which I guess equates to a 5mb broadband link, not too shabby.
Order a load of free pay and go sim cards from the different networks and try them out in the areas you frequent all the time.
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I can achieve decent download rates via 3G, typically 150-200kbps which I guess equates to a 5mb+ broadband link, not too shabby.
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??? 5Mb (megabit) = roughly 5000Kb so your 150-200Kb is way, way under that!
Your speeds are consistent with a fair 3G signal. HSDPA should give about 1200Kbps (= 1.2Mb or thereabouts) in real life though that will depend on proximity to the cell site, cell congestion etc.
NeilM said:
??? 5Mb (megabit) = roughly 5000Kb so your 150-200Kb is way, way under that!
Your speeds are consistent with a fair 3G signal. HSDPA should give about 1200Kbps (= 1.2Mb or thereabouts) in real life though that will depend on proximity to the cell site, cell congestion etc.
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Fair enough, I'm just relating to real-world conditions where 5mb broadband doesn't equal anywhere near 5000kbps My 18mb broadband connection only achieves 1mb/s download speeds for example
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Virgin piggyback off T-mobile?
So does this mean that if t-mob throttle the usage, the throttle is also applicable to Virgin Mob customers?
I used to be with Virgin and the coverage was great, now with Vodafone and was always told about their superior coverage compared to other networks.
I have to say I'm sadly dissapointed, I often find it drops out completely. Even in the city centre where you'd assume coverage would be good, I often get "cold" spots with no signal, yet 25m down the road I have full HSDPA signal..... weird.
bdb25 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Virgin piggyback off T-mobile?
So does this mean that if t-mob throttle the usage, the throttle is also applicable to Virgin Mob customers?
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That's what it seems, although we are trying to see if Tmobile restrict and throttle the Virgin side of things even more...
See this thread here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=615643
O2's data limit is actually 1GB per month, they just don't like to tell people.
If you negotiate a bit with T-Mobile you may be able to get onto their 3GB/month tariff at not much (if any) extra cost. (When I was buying I had a choice between 900 minutes, unlimited texts and 1GB/month or 1000 minutes, 500 texts and 3GB/month at the same price).
T-Mobile handset deals generally work out cheaper than other networks, but there are hidden extras: you have to pay for Voicemail calls (they don't come out of your minutes) and you don't get any free MMS messages at all (while O2, say, counts an MMS message as four SMS messages from your allowance).
One thing that irritates me about T-Mobile is that they don't support EDGE, which means if there's no 3G signal you drop straight to basic GPRS speeds. Back when I was with O2, if there was no 3G signal there was still a chance you could get EDGE, which is substantially quicker than plain GPRS.
I'd advise any buyer to be wary of mobilephonesdirect - their after-sales service is simply shocking, so if your phone develops a fault you may not get a replacement unless you're willing to take legal action.
Just to add to the previous post,
Vodafone and Virgin Mobile also charge you for MMS messages
Virgin mobile seem to cap data speed at about 384kbps.
Most of them cap the speed.
In fact I tried m.speedtest.com in a vodafone store and the phone refused to load the site.
My vodafone account got defrauded and they charged me for calls which were obviously fraudulent - masked number to US/canada at over £1 a minute that appeared as 121 on my bill....on the 29th of the month every month since November.
So I'm not happy with their idiocy but it forced me to try T-mobile.
I've found that in most places T-mobile works better than vodafone - I seem to have a 3G signal in more places and more consistently. however, that means that my E65 only lasts barely a day....With vodafone's 3G constantly dropping most of the time I was on 2G...haha, funny that!!
I think the 2/2.5G signal of vodafone is better. The 3G T-mobile signal is better. At least where i go. T-mobile reaches deep into the basement of my law school, whereas vodafone could only reach 2feet into the area.
Vodafone pluses:
includes voicemail to mins
Much cheaper fixed rate roaming not per minute
Robust 2G network
competitive plans.
T-mobile plusses:
1GB data
Much better 3G network.
-ves:
Charge for voicemail
Expensive roaming.
Less good 2G network.
Quite expensive tariffs and phones.
Virgin pluses:
Cheapest deal with mins+phone for free without going ot reseller.
T-mobile network
-ves:
unknown newbie - reseller.
Data capped at 384.
I was on a T-Mobile Combi 30 + W'n'W for £35 a month (18 month contract, 600mins/unlimited txts) plan, when it came time to upgrade a fortnight ago they wanted £70 for the phone, which I would happily have paid. Fortunately they didn't have any in stock at the time. I say fortunately as another rep called me back about a week later and proposed I go on the Flext 35 for 18 months, which has a £180 per month allowance (plus internet) but the phone is free, since I never use anywhere near my minutes, or send millions of txts it's a good plan for me, plus free HD2!
The phone comes without any T-Mobile graffiti on it thankfully, and since HardSPL was released, the stock branded T-Mobile ROM lasted all of an hour.
Also really depends in which country you reside.
Vodafone NL never warned me for over-usage, while I had months exceeding 500MB PER SESSION.. Never heard from them.
Speed is about 1mbit/s here at home. Signal is good in most cases. On the highway I usually get 2mbit/s.
May be slightly off topic but anyone else using this phone with Virgin and having issues with connection?
Mine says 3g sometimes but then reverts to H or even G. Also having issues at work where coverage is supposed to be good but there are times I'm not getting any signal at all. Did try the sim in anoether phone and the signal was strong so wondering if its the phone.
Thanks in advance!
Towserspvm2000 said:
O2 work out quite a bit more than the others - you pay £100 for the HD2 on a £35/month contract, with 600 minutes talk and 1000 texts (if you order over the internet - 500 texts if you do the deal in store). This comes with the Unlimited Web bolt on (which normally costs £7.50), but this is limited to 500mb. And it seems you are charged if you go over this.
I've never dealt with O2, so my apologies if the info is wrong, but this is how I'm finding it.
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Hi im new here, thought i would register as i have my new leo coming 2morrow, cant wait. I ordered a hd2 from o2 today, unlimited txts, unlimited web, 600 xnet mins free phone 18 month contract for £35pm. had to ring up and say i was going to leave if they couldent match the deal they were very friendly. t-mobile and voda do the same sort of deals on dialafone n places like that.
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Hi im new here, thought i would register as i have my new leo coming 2morrow, cant wait. I ordered a hd2 from o2 today, unlimited txts, unlimited web, 600 xnet mins free phone 18 month contract for £35pm. had to ring up and say i was going to leave if they couldent match the deal they were very friendly. t-mobile and voda do the same sort of deals on dialafone n places like that.
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Welcome to the group!! Hope the phone is what you want. You will be in for a steep learning curve, but this is the best forum group to ask questions in.
Is this true? 5 gig limit on data plan starting on the 16 of this month?
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The 5 GB limit has been around for a while. But they don't deactivate your service or charge extra if you go over, they just throttle your speed do you can't use data as fast.
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The 5 GB limit has been around for a while. But they don't deactivate your service or charge extra if you go over, they just throttle your speed do you can't use data as fast.
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The cap was 10 GB, actually. They didn't publish it anywhere but it was there, throttling users back.
There is no ban per say. It's a Cap, and there has been one for a long time.
Does it tell us how much of a decrease we'll see in speeds?
In Turkey, I used VodaFoneTR and after a 100MB limit they hit me with 15KB/s. And I was getting about 5MBPS before the cap. It wasn't too bad at all. Monthly data unlimited was 8TL which is about $5 usd. Very fair for the price.
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Hah, yeah it's real alright. Just a week after upgrading from my G1 I got a text from t-mobile saying I've reached the data limit for my rate plan. Which I think is bull**** since my contract should have been renewed right there and then, and there's NO WAY I used up 10GB in under a week.
I'll have a talk with customer service in a bit. Edge speeds down from hspa+ is a total kick to the balls.
they will be throttling down after 5 gig and also you will have to pay for tethering now as an extra feature which will cost 15 bucks a month, i work for tmobile and spoke to the vice president just yesterday when he came for a visit
Bbe1367 said:
they will be throttling down after 5 gig and also you will have to pay for tethering now as an extra feature which will cost 15 bucks a month, i work for tmobile and spoke to the vice president just yesterday when he came for a visit
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did you need to post twice?
Once it's rooted it will be a non-issue (paid tether anyway).
Is there anyway we can monitor our data usage? The myaccount apps from tmobiles doesn't give me the info.
sheek360 said:
Is there anyway we can monitor our data usage? The myaccount apps from tmobiles doesn't give me the info.
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You have to log into your account at T-Mobile as far as I know.
I have had internet since 2006, does it grandfather in the old unlimited rule? Or has this rule been around for quite some time?
Mog said:
I have had internet since 2006, does it grandfather in the old unlimited rule? Or has this rule been around for quite some time?
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Data is still unlimited, no changes there. The only change is that once you go over 5 GB of data transfer in a billing period, your maximum data speed is decreased to "EDGE speeds" (1 Mbit max, 400 Kbit typical) until the start of your next billing period. You should still connect with HSPA+ (if available), just without the HSPA+ speeds.
Per the T-Mobile contract, they are allowed to make speed changes "in order to improve service" and whether it's 10 GB (old value) or 5 GB (the new value) can be changed without it being a contract modification since they are still providing "unlimited" data service.
Post your plan if you think u have a good deal with Rogers. I'd like to compare to see what's possible. Please post in a format similar to mine. I'll start:
500 Daytime
Evenings and Weekends @ 6
Caller ID
Voicemail
Unlimited texting (SMS & MMS)
6 gb data
Unlimited internal company calling
Total = $50 tax and saf in
Not bad, but my turn,
AT&T:
450 anytime with rollover
Unlimited AT&T to AT&T
5000 nights and weekends
20c per text
UNLIMITED DATA
Total: 54.99+tax
Verizon wireless:
450 anytime
Unlimited Verizon to verizon
Unlimited nights and weekends
20c per text
UNLIMITED 4G LTE DATA (Better than home internet, when it works.)
Total= 56+tax
2X unlimited data is good incase of home internet fail.
Nice, but check thread title lol. I KNOW American plans are better, Canadians get overcharged for everything, because we only have a big 2, Rogers and Bell. More competition = better prices states side
Honestly, Rogers is a big time ripper. The amount they charge for some of this stuff is just absurd.
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I will never go back with Rogers with their incredibly high prices and their customer serivce beyond sucks. I'd recommend Telus if I had to choose between the top 3.
Rogers Line 1:
Unlimited Voice - Canada Wide (no Canada Roaming, no zones)
Unlimited Text and MMS - Intern/US/Canada Wide
Unlimited Long distance - US/Canada
LTE 10GB Data - Canada Wide (no Canada Roaming on data)
Visual Voice Mail
Call Display with Caller ID
Ring backs
Total: 89.24+tax
Rogers Line 2:
Unlimited Voice - Canada Wide (no Canada Roaming, no zones)
Unlimited Long distance - US/Canada
Unlimited Text and MMS - Intern/US/Canada Wide
Call Display with Caller ID
Total: 48.30 + Tax
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I will never go back with Rogers with their incredibly high prices and their customer serivce beyond sucks. I'd recommend Telus if I had to choose between the top 3.
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Had Telus, no reason to get it if you are using the phone in Canada only, plans are more expensive than Rogers, network is worst, phones are not good, customer service is not even close to Rogers. Rogers has it's problems but much better value.
If you don;t like any of big three, just buy the phone and use ChatR or Kodo if you need lots of data
P.S.ChatR/Fido=Rogers, Koodo=Telus, Virgin is Bell now
The rest independent once are not even close to the network standards you get from big Three.
I had no complaints with Telus when I had them, customer service was awesome compared to Rogers, I know everyone has different experiences with their companies but I loved Telus...haven't kept up with the plans the big three are offering though.
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I had no complaints with Telus when I had them, customer service was awesome compared to Rogers, I know everyone has different experiences with their companies but I loved Telus...haven't kept up with the plans the big three are offering though.
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in the past two years, Rogers and Bell are way ahead.
I never had problems with Telus, the only problem is the plan i had for North America was 250 min = $120, and they would not give me even 10% off after 10 years of service, i switched to AT&T 450=$69 + roll over.
the other problem Telus has no unlimited plans and they would not honer it since others started having it. Where as Rogers did.
What plan do you have with Telus?
I don't have a plan with Telus right now as I'm in Atlanta till August and when I usually when I go back to Toronto I just get their prepaid sim since I only stay for a month. The plan I had before with Telus was a student plan but I can't remember the specifics...I'll check out what everyone is offering when I get back since some other new plan will be out.
Haha Robbers.. Finally out of a contract, so I'm going prepaid. So long as there's wifi everything is stellar
Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere, but I've noticed a lot of people being caught by surprise when they hear how little I pay for my data plan. I'd like to make a list of all prepaid plans, how much you pay, what you get, and what the coverage is for smartphones. Let's go!
Virgin Mobile ($35/month = 300 mins, unlimited txt+data)
Pros: Cheap, simple plans, good customer service
Cons: Not many high-end phones, have to buy VM branded phone (can't bring your own), Sprint coverage, expensive if you talk a LOT
T-Mobile's 4g plan ($30/month = 100 mins, unlimited txt+3g data, 5gb 4g data)
Pros: Perfect for people who talk very little, tons of fast data without throttling, can bring your own phone or buy through 3rd party (ebay, craigslist, amazon, etc)
Cons: Low minutes, if you go over your minutes, you are automatically upgraded to the next teir plan which only includes 300mb data and cannot switch back unless you buy a new sim card (aka, confusing plan), T-Mobile coverage
Straight Talk's BYOD Sim Card ($45/month = unlimited voice+data, ~2gb HSPA+ data)
Pros: AT&T coverage, unlimited minutes, can bring virtually any gsm device (offer both t-mobile and at&t sim cards)
Cons: Customer service is horrible, plans and coverage confusing*
*Straight Talk has deals with all major carriers, which is why they have several different coverage maps. For the prepaid android phones you buy from them, you get Sprint coverage. If you choose the BYOD sim plan, you get either T-Mobile or AT&T coverage (depending on which sim card you choose). Some of their prepaid dumbphones use Verizon's towers, so you'll see that coverage map, too. Basically, get an AT&T sim and you get AT&T coverage. Not too bad.
Also, it's worth noting that T-Mobile and Virgin are both very clear about data limits and what happens when. Straight Talk is a lot less clear, basically saying if you don't tether or stream, you have unlimited data, but if they catch you using a TON of data they do have the right to kick you off their plan. If you want to stream pandora 16 hours a day, this isn't the plan for you.
Please feel free to add to this list or make corrections if you see them. I wrote this in response to an article on Cnet today, and am basically just copying and pasting. I know there are more carriers, but there are the three I personally have experience with. If you have experience and know a carrier inside and out, send a reply! I'd like to eventually get all prepaid carriers in the US.
I just ordered an att sim for my pre2
If I don't like it I'll put it on my razr n give it to my mom
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There are other options but none are really much better than what you posted. However, there is a pretty huge thread in the Galaxy Nexus forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014
There's also RedPocket. They run on AT&T's network. They have payAsYouGo by the minute and PayMonthly. I'm use Their Unlimited Talk, Text and 2GB Data plan for $59.99. I would suggest them if Straight Talk's nebulous data limits don't work for you and you prefer AT&T's network. I use RedPocket in my HTC One X....
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Babydoll25 said:
There's also RedPocket. They run on AT&T's network. They have payAsYouGo by the minute and PayMonthly. I'm use Their Unlimited Talk, Text and 2GB Data plan for $59.99. I would suggest them if Straight Talk's nebulous data limits don't work for you and you prefer AT&T's network. I use RedPocket in my HTC One X....
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Good stuff, but there is a little bit of misinformation here. Straight Talk has two different BYOD sim cards: one runs off of T-Mobile's network and one off of AT&T's.
With that in mind, is there any compelling reason to spend an extra $15/month? (Not trying to be a ****, just wondering if customer service is better, if they subsidize phones, or some other benefit over straight talk.)
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Straight Talk's BYOD Sim Card ($45/month = unlimited voice+data, ~2gb HSPA+ data)
Pros: AT&T coverage, unlimited minutes, can bring virtually any gsm device (offer both t-mobile and at&t sim cards)
Cons: Customer service is horrible, plans and coverage confusing*
*Straight Talk has deals with all major carriers, which is why they have several different coverage maps. For the prepaid android phones you buy from them, you get Sprint coverage. If you choose the BYOD sim plan, you get either T-Mobile or AT&T coverage (depending on which sim card you choose). Some of their prepaid dumbphones use Verizon's towers, so you'll see that coverage map, too. Basically, get an AT&T sim and you get AT&T coverage. Not too bad.
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corrections:
old ST android phones run on Sprint for ST actually only 2 of them does,
the LG Optimus Q and Samsung Galaxy Precedent
we use verizon and TMO for newer android phones (though i was not able to catch up since i transfered to AT&T, last time i was there the LG Optimus Black runs on TMO networks)
Verizon Tower Phones-
all CDMA dumbphones
AT&T & TMO Tower phones-
sim card dependent
Sprint Tower Phones-
Only LG Optimus Q and Samsung Galaxy Precedent
CS is well trained if they are tier 2-3 (that is the supervisors and managers desk)
if you call CS ask immediately to be transfered to a supervisor if you are not contented to a supervisor ask for a manager
tier 1 reps or beginners are the main reason why people say the CS is horrible
they are actually the front-liners and will recieve every given call
30% of tier 1 reps are actually on training (new hires on the job with no experience)
50% of them are less than 6 months tenure
So you think if I switch to ST and do just that I would get good CS?
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Haha, I've gotten a manager who insisted that the byod att sim card wouldn't work with my Galaxy Nexus. They might be "well trained", but if they don't understand English, then they aren't helpful. And to be fair, I have had a few good managers, but you really take your chances.
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MrObvious said:
So you think if I switch to ST and do just that I would get good CS?
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i dont know,
i hate thier management, thats why i left
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Haha, I've gotten a manager who insisted that the byod att sim card wouldn't work with my Galaxy Nexus. They might be "well trained", but if they don't understand English, then they aren't helpful. And to be fair, I have had a few good managers, but you really take your chances.
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did you happen to ask where was he from?
Yeah. I like T-Mobile but my phone doesn't get 3g. Im hoping the 1900 refarm will fix that. The only other downside is I have 100 minutes, no nights and weekends. I can use Sipdroid but I hate having two numbers and don't use my GV number because it doesn't do MMS or things like how you can text your Facebook status to 32665. Idk. Sorry I just was ranting.
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i dont know,
i hate thier management, thats why i left
did you happen to ask where was he from?
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She was quite obviously from India lol.
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She was quite obviously from India lol.
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we don't have a center from india
you must have misinterpreted her voice
it was from south america maybe guatemala or bogota
Really? I thought for sure her accent was Indian. Do people from those other countries have Indian-sounding accents? I definitely could be wrong about that.
Regardless of where she was from, I have had quite a few atrocious experiences with their customer service.
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Really? I thought for sure her accent was Indian. Do people from those other countries have Indian-sounding accents? I definitely could be wrong about that.
Regardless of where she was from, I have had quite a few atrocious experiences with their customer service.
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yea,
tracfone does not contract a center in india cuz they prefer south america for the reason that the head office of our center is in mexico and tracfone is a mexican company
yea, south american agents who are our contact partners does sound indian-like, they are mostly in port related, fraud and android support group,
xxBrun0xx said:
Good stuff, but there is a little bit of misinformation here. Straight Talk has two different BYOD sim cards: one runs off of T-Mobile's network and one off of AT&T's.
With that in mind, is there any compelling reason to spend an extra $15/month? (Not trying to be a ****, just wondering if customer service is better, if they subsidize phones, or some other benefit over straight talk.)
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Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my first post.
I know they do, however they don't seem to be quite as strict with data use on T-Mobile's network. Also, most people I know prefer Simple Mobile as the MVNO of choice for T-Mobile.
I think the extra 15$ is worth it to have a defined data allotment. On HoFo there are complaints of ST harassing them over as little 1.3GB of usage in a month. I don't like nebulous ToS.....
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So I can put my T-Mobile sim card in a tracfone and it will operate?Do they run on the same frequencies as T-Mobile?how much for just a data plan with tracfone that I can use in my T-Mobile phone.
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I use Platinumtel with my Nexus S 4G.
It's:
Sprint's Network
BYOD
$0.05 per minute
$ 0.02 per text
$.10 per Mb data
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I use Platinumtel with my Nexus S 4G.
It's:
Sprint's Network
BYOD
$0.05 per minute
$ 0.02 per text
$.10 per Mb data
deathnotice01 said:
yea,
tracfone does not contract a center in india cuz they prefer south america for the reason that the head office of our center is in mexico and tracfone is a mexican company
yea, south american agents who are our contact partners does sound indian-like, they are mostly in port related, fraud and android support group,
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I had no idea Tracphone was a base out of Mexico. Cool
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I use Platinumtel with my Nexus S 4G.
It's:
Sprint's Network
BYOD
$0.05 per minute
$ 0.02 per text
$.10 per Mb data
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I use Platinumtel with my Nexus S 4G.
It's:
Sprint's Network
BYOD
$0.05 per minute
$ 0.02 per text
$.10 per Mb data
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This seems to be a pretty terrible deal, and here's my logic (correct me if I'm wrong):
Let's compare to Virgin Mobile, since they also use Sprint's Network. So with VM, you pay for data and voice, and basically get charged $0 per text. Let's do some math!
Assuming you're going with VM's $35/month plan, you're getting 100 minutes and 2.5gb of data (until they throttle you, after which is unlimited. But let's pretend throttled data doesn't exist and they hard capped you instead). Let's look at how much it would cost to use 100 minutes and 2.5gb data on Platinumtel:
100 mins x $0.05/minute = $5
2.5gb data x $0.10/mb x (1000mb/gb) = $250
Total: $5 + $250 = $255/month
Keep in mind this doesn't include texts, which are "free" through VM. Now, let's say you're big on talking. Let's jump up to Virgin's next plan, 1200 minutes for $45.
1200 mins x $0.05/minute = $60
Total: $60 + $255 = $315/month
And the it's really downhill from there (VM has a final plan, which is $55/month with unlimited minutes, but you get the idea).
This plan also fares very poorly against every other prepaid plan, unless you don't do much of anything other than use wifi with your phone and simply need something for emergencies.
But still, if you use 0 minutes, 0 texts, and only 450 mb per month, you're paying as much as you would for Straight Talk, or Virgin's 2nd plan, or a host of other more competitive plans. While pay as you go smartphone plans are cool, this is just way too expensive for what you get.
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I had no idea Tracphone was a base out of Mexico. Cool
This seems to be a pretty terrible deal, and here's my logic (correct me if I'm wrong):
Let's compare to Virgin Mobile, since they also use Sprint's Network. So with VM, you pay for data and voice, and basically get charged $0 per text. Let's do some math!
Assuming you're going with VM's $35/month plan, you're getting 100 minutes and 2.5gb of data (until they throttle you, after which is unlimited. But let's pretend throttled data doesn't exist and they hard capped you instead). Let's look at how much it would cost to use 100 minutes and 2.5gb data on Platinumtel:
100 mins x $0.05/minute = $5
2.5gb data x $0.10/mb x (1000mb/gb) = $250
Total: $5 + $250 = $255/month
Keep in mind this doesn't include texts, which are "free" through VM. Now, let's say you're big on talking. Let's jump up to Virgin's next plan, 1200 minutes for $45.
1200 mins x $0.05/minute = $60
Total: $60 + $255 = $315/month
And the it's really downhill from there (VM has a final plan, which is $55/month with unlimited minutes, but you get the idea).
This plan also fares very poorly against every other prepaid plan, unless you don't do much of anything other than use wifi with your phone and simply need something for emergencies.
But still, if you use 0 minutes, 0 texts, and only 450 mb per month, you're paying as much as you would for Straight Talk, or Virgin's 2nd plan, or a host of other more competitive plans. While pay as you go smartphone plans are cool, this is just way too expensive for what you get.
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This is true. PAYGO is only good for people who either don't use their phone alot or are next to WIFI enough to satisfy their needs.
I personally like to only pay for what I use and nothing more.
I don't need much data, because I'm either at work or near WIFI.
BTW, PTel has monthly plans also.
If I had WIFI at work, I could probably spend less that $2 a month.
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T-Mobile's 4g plan ($30/month = 100 mins, unlimited txt+3g data, 5gb 4g data)
Pros: Perfect for people who talk very little, tons of fast data without throttling, can bring your own phone or buy through 3rd party (ebay, craigslist, amazon, etc)
Cons: Low minutes, if you go over your minutes, you are automatically upgraded to the next teir plan which only includes 300mb data and cannot switch back unless you buy a new sim card (aka, confusing plan), T-Mobile coverage
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That's a bit incorrect. If you run out of minutes they charge you $.05 a minute. They won't change your plan.
There are quite a few more prepaid providers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014
I am currently on net10 and noticed that during peak hours my data is almost non existant. I learned that att mvno dont have priority on the network so I think that might explain why despite having full bars my data speeds are horrible during peak hours of the day. I heard that Tmobile doesnt deprioritize mvno so I was thinking of trying Solavei. I already have the sim card and free service for a month. I am just worried about coverage on tmobile's network. So my first question is how are people fairing with tmobile or solavei? I know tmobile is working on their network has anyone seen improvements in coverage? Also I was wondering if people are having the same issue with straight talk on the Att side during peak hours in large populated areas? I live in the bay area but i noticed the same speed issues over the holidays when I was in Memphis, Tn with net10.
IM loving it! i work in the bay area and get great speeds here! and at home also which is in fresno! coverage has gotten allot better and its only getting better! if i were you i would join before the 31st cause you get the free month of service and free sim card... if you want to join hit me up [email protected]...
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I am currently on net10 and noticed that during peak hours my data is almost non existant. I learned that att mvno dont have priority on the network so I think that might explain why despite having full bars my data speeds are horrible during peak hours of the day. I heard that Tmobile doesnt deprioritize mvno so I was thinking of trying Solavei. I already have the sim card and free service for a month. I am just worried about coverage on tmobile's network. So my first question is how are people fairing with tmobile or solavei? I know tmobile is working on their network has anyone seen improvements in coverage? Also I was wondering if people are having the same issue with straight talk on the Att side during peak hours in large populated areas? I live in the bay area but i noticed the same speed issues over the holidays when I was in Memphis, Tn with net10.
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tmo/solavei coverage ain't bad if you live in a big city or populated area. once you leave the city it usually craps down to edge or you lose signal altogether. but when your getting good signal the data is pretty fast, and no they don't prioritize, you'll get the same speeds on any tmo mvno as actual tmo. only thing I hate about T-Mobile is the indoor signal strength sux. but seeing as how I just got throttled down to .23 mb/s by st at&t halfway thru my billing cycle, I'll be switching back to tmo (solavei actually) next month
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tmo/solavei coverage ain't bad if you live in a big city or populated area. once you leave the city it usually craps down to edge or you lose signal altogether. but when your getting good signal the data is pretty fast, and no they don't prioritize, you'll get the same speeds on any tmo mvno as actual tmo. only thing I hate about T-Mobile is the indoor signal strength sux. but seeing as how I just got throttled down to .23 mb/s by st at&t halfway thru my billing cycle, I'll be switching back to tmo (solavei actually) next month
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were you having data issues during peaks hours where you couldnt use data or it was really slow? Also how long ago did you have tmobile im waiting on my sim from solavei but i have been trying to gauge how much of an improvement tmobile has made on their network as far as coverage. Seems like its not much based on research no one has out right said they are experiencing better coverage
Use T-Mobile's coverage map on their website.
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were you having data issues during peaks hours where you couldnt use data or it was really slow? Also how long ago did you have tmobile im waiting on my sim from solavei but i have been trying to gauge how much of an improvement tmobile has made on their network as far as coverage. Seems like its not much based on research no one has out right said they are experiencing better coverage
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no my data was fine during peak hours on tmobile. I was on tmo up until the 9th of this month then I switched to st at&t
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Use T-Mobile's coverage map on their website.
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I have used the coverage map but user experience is better than looking at a map. Those maps arent always accurate and i feel sometimes the carriers embellish a little bit about their actual coverage. I guess ill just have to wait and see when the sim comes
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I have used the coverage map but user experience is better than looking at a map. Those maps arent always accurate and i feel sometimes the carriers embellish a little bit about their actual coverage. I guess ill just have to wait and see when the sim comes
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I use att.mvno with H2O Wireless and don't get no peak slowdowns AFAIK. I don't stream videos and in general i view mobile sites rather than full sites as well so maybe that's part of why i don't notice much of a difference. Then again certain parts of AT&T's network are slammed, doesn't matter if it's prepaid of full post paid contract plans.
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I have used the coverage map but user experience is better than looking at a map. Those maps arent always accurate and i feel sometimes the carriers embellish a little bit about their actual coverage. I guess ill just have to wait and see when the sim comes
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This may sound weird, but I've found T-Mobile's coverage map to be superbly accurate. It's inside buildings where it gets hazy.
To the OP, Straight Talk and Net10 use the same service ..just Net10 charges $5 more for it.
You go with these for the unlimited talk or data? Which is more important? If you can live with 100anytime mins try T-Mobile prepaid they have a 100 anytime min, unlimited text and 5GB of 4G speed then throttled but still unlimited, for $30/month.
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I have been with Tmo for 9 years and 3 months ago cancelled and started a Solavei plan on the Tmo network. I went from a $180/month to $110/month month (2 phones). 4gb (per month) 3G/4G before throttle to 2G was the selling point for me. Tmobile is great if you don't travel out of cities/off the interstate. I've never had problems even when I traveled for my job 100% across America, but I was in cities and rarely went to rural/redneck areas.
The only downside (if its a downside) is that the Solavei website is fairly stripped of information about your phone plan. You really just log in and pay your bill (or setup auto-pay). There is no statistics (minutes/data/call log/etc...) like Tmobile had so you will have to use apps to track that stuff. I re-Rom a lot so it is tough for me to track statistics smoothly but this is really trivial and not a big deal.
The data being used on Straight Talk with TMob is a hairy one..on HowardForums some say they get capped at 4gb then some say at 7-10gb, but supposedly tmob is cracking down on the mnvos for data usage..
Atat on the other hand will straight up kick your ass off data completely on mvnos. But tmobiles own prepaid offerings aren't bad and you know what they say is what you'll get. And the T-Mobile my account info app on the play store works for their prepaid.
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To the OP, Straight Talk and Net10 use the same service ..just Net10 charges $5 more for it.
You go with these for the unlimited talk or data? Which is more important? If you can live with 100anytime mins try T-Mobile prepaid they have a 100 anytime min, unlimited text and 5GB of 4G speed then throttled but still unlimited, for $30/month.
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FYI - Straight Talk operates on both AT&T and T-Mobile and even Verizon in some places. You can get SIMs for either service depending on your phone (excepting Nexus and other unlocked devices where you can use both - even swap around if you want to).
ztmike said:
To the OP, Straight Talk and Net10 use the same service ..just Net10 charges $5 more for it.
You go with these for the unlimited talk or data? Which is more important? If you can live with 100anytime mins try T-Mobile prepaid they have a 100 anytime min, unlimited text and 5GB of 4G speed then throttled but still unlimited, for $30/month.
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I wanted to try Solavei because I heard it has data roaming while T-mobile prepaid doesnt. I figured that would help a little with coverage for data also 100 mins is too little for me I can run through that easily in a day( I work remotely from home 2 days out of the week so meetings can run over)
Thanks for the reply patiently waiting on the sim card hopefully I get good results on tmobile i just think Net10 and I guess Straightalk are pointless if i cant use data well during certain times of the day despite having full bars. It happened to me on too many occasions this past month in two different cities.
I've been using Straight Talk (with ATT Sim) for about a month and haven't run into any issues with using data throughout the day. I haven't reached the throttle point yet though.. Speeds with ATT are consistently 3mbit (yes, a lot slower then TMobile, but better coverage).
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I've been using Straight Talk (with ATT Sim) for about a month and haven't run into any issues with using data throughout the day. I haven't reached the throttle point yet though.. Speeds with ATT are consistently 3mbit (yes, a lot slower then TMobile, but better coverage).
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Do you live in the bay area or similar place with a lot of people?
Don't do Solavei. I had it for a few days and data is very jumpy. I'm right outside of Dallas and my speeds were worse than Metro PCS. I think at one point it got down to 100-200 kbps. Way worse. And when I tried to set up my APN settings to get MMS and Solavei Web to work when only one or the other was working I went through two customer service reps and they didn't know what the hell they were doing. I got a refund and just went with a tmobile contract plan where I'm getting unlimited everything with no caps for $64 a month. I hate caps. Just stay away from Solavei.
Had AT&T ST, now T-Mobile prepaid, switching to Solavei soon.
For me on AT&T my phone gets decent reception in buildings, but T-mobile's HSPA+ is very fast outside big corporate buildings, which I prefer actually for streaming media. T-Mobile prepaid doesn't offer conditional call forwarding, so that's the main reason I'm switching to Solavei since I can't use Google Voice as my voicemail without that feature. AFAIK they are the only T-Mobile MVNO that offers it.
Did a bunch of reading.
I use/need:
1. ~800 minutes
2. ~1.5GB of data (was using 500MB on sprint, assume I'll use more on faster network)
3. Mostly urban, rarely rural. Willing to forego data when out in the wilderness
4. Google Voicemail
5. Would like to be less than $50/mo and/or 'contract free' (don't want to pay phone subsidy when I own my phone)
T-mobile $30 prepaid plan: Ruled out by 1.
Straight Talk - T-Mobile SIM: Ruled out by 4.
T-mobile $60 prepaid plan: Ruled out by 5. ($10/mo+ * 24 = a new nexus phone)
AT&T $65 plan: Ruled out by 2, 5.
Looks like my options are:
A: Solavei - T-Mobile Network
Pros:
1. Faster when data works
2. Same priority as T-mobile customers
3. 4GB on 4G data before throttle
4. Voice+Data roaming
5. Possible to save $20/mo if I refer 3 subscribers and they're sure to use my referral code (I already have 2 possible)
6. Seems to be better in congested areas (from visually reviewing data on rootmetrics)
Cons:
1. $ more than ST
2. Smaller overall network
3. Weaker building penetration
4. Expects me to become a network marketer to save, new users most likely won't properly attribute my referral
5. If you do sign up 3 referrals, you're basically on-contract and won't want to leave because of the savings, even if quality starts to suffers
B: Straight Talk - AT&T Network
Pros:
1. $5-8 less than Solavei
2. Bigger overall network = better voice+data coverage
3. Better building penetration
4. Easy to switch
Cons:
1. Slower data
2. Random throttling. Is it 70MB/day? Is it 2GB/mo? What is it? You'll end up asking: "WHY DID YOU THROTTLE ME?" They'll end up saying: "Dunno, see if it's faster next month. Everything is fine on our end."
3. Lower priority voice+data in congested areas/times. Network is getting beat up by iPhones+iPads.
4. No data or voice roaming
I looked at:
http://www.airportal.de/
http://www.rootmetrics.com/
I've read several reports of poor T-mobile service in Buffalo, NY, but the fresh maps (-90 days) on these sites say otherwise. Willing to try magenta first, then fall back to random throttling and low priority on ST-ATT.