OK, I just downloaded and installed the 3.1 update, running stock OS.
CONFIG
I have a 32GB A500 which I assume is main memory / SSD. I also added a 32GB micro SDHC chip in it, and for testing, an 8GB thumb drive in the large USB port. They all show up in system Settings,
When I have had the A500 connected via the mini-USB port, the memory / SSD shows up, but not the sdhc card, and not a thumb drive if i plug that in (when I look at it as an extended drive)
Some applications can see memory / SSD, and the micro SDHC chip. For example, ES File Explorer has a tab which cycles between the memory / SSD file system, and that on the SHDC chip. It doesn't include USB storage.
QUESTION
First, I'd like to confirm that something (anything) can read the USB file system.
Next, I am looking for a utility that would allow me to see all three file systems: main/SSD, SDHC, and USB, and move things back and forth between them, and to/from my PC as well. Recommendations?
As far as I know there is nothing that will allow you to read the 'external' drives from PC. This was supposed to be fixed in 3.1 (just another thing borked..), so go figure when or IF it'll ever be available.
Incidentally, my 2.2 Archos 101 did all that perfectly, but the new android versions won't, funny eh?
Assuming he has the proper drivers installed, what if he went micro usb connected to pc and thumb drive in tablet. He could read/transfer files from thumb to tablet and have the pc read/transfer to/from the tablet. If that makes sense or helps.
Get a file explorer and go to the mnt directory. the internal, external and usb storage are all there.
I guess I'd be happy with an answer to the first question below, happier with an answer to the second:
1. Is there any app, running on the tablet, which will allow me to see the file system on a USB thumbdrive? Which one. It's odd to me that I can see the drive, apparently properly formed, in the tablet "system settings" app, but (so far) haven't seen how to get at it myself, and haven't found an app which access it either.
2. Is there an application, running on the PC, or an app running on the tablet, which let's me see the file systems on tablet, tablet's sdhc chip, thumb drive and PC storage in a unified way, so I can move things around without unplugging stuff? That is harder, but one of those networked file access utilities might do it.
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I guess I'd be happy with an answer to the first question below, happier with an answer to the second:
1. Is there any app, running on the tablet, which will allow me to see the file system on a USB thumbdrive? Which one. It's odd to me that I can see the drive, apparently properly formed, in the tablet "system settings" app, but (so far) haven't seen how to get at it myself, and haven't found an app which access it either.
2. Is there an application, running on the PC, or an app running on the tablet, which let's me see the file systems on tablet, tablet's sdhc chip, thumb drive and PC storage in a unified way, so I can move things around without unplugging stuff? That is harder, but one of those networked file access utilities might do it.
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1) I use Root Explorer and I can see the USB Storage in the MNT directory in the root of the device.
2) from the PC, adb i assume, but i've never done this. For network, try Samba server - https://market.android.com/details?id=com.funkyfresh.samba&feature=search_result.
GCurry said:
I guess I'd be happy with an answer to the first question below, happier with an answer to the second:
1. Is there any app, running on the tablet, which will allow me to see the file system on a USB thumbdrive? Which one. It's odd to me that I can see the drive, apparently properly formed, in the tablet "system settings" app, but (so far) haven't seen how to get at it myself, and haven't found an app which access it either.
2. Is there an application, running on the PC, or an app running on the tablet, which let's me see the file systems on tablet, tablet's sdhc chip, thumb drive and PC storage in a unified way, so I can move things around without unplugging stuff? That is harder, but one of those networked file access utilities might do it.
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To answer the first one, no, there is no application to read the external data drives.
As for the second, to transfer files between these, you need to get a file explorer like Root Explorer. The multimedia apps have the ability to access the external data drives so if you want to store music and/or movies on them, you do not have to use up your internal memory.
Hope that answered your question.
Does 3.1 add ntfs support??....if not can I make it support without rooting my tab??
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Root explorer works great, so does File Manager HD
GCurry said:
OK, I just downloaded and installed the 3.1 update, running stock OS.
QUESTION
First, I'd like to confirm that something (anything) can read the USB file system.
Next, I am looking for a utility that would allow me to see all three file systems: main/SSD, SDHC, and USB, and move things back and forth between them, and to/from my PC as well. Recommendations?
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I use Astro, in Astro I see them all. Home, Up and you'll see all the storage areas.
Astro will allow you to move things back and forth between SD, USB and Internal storage.
Nothing that I know of, will allow you to directly view your USB or MicroSD using your PC, by directly I mean through the microusb connection.
There's an app called Wifi File Explorer Pro which may allow you to see them on the PC however I'm not certain as I never used it extensively and may be more trouble than it's worth as you'll have to open a port in your router for it to work properly.
Hope this helps.
Any file manager can access /mnt/external_sd and /mnt/usb_storage.
Drive mount or USB mount all can mount ntfs drives. Must be rooted.
Can only access internal memory front PC. End of story until google/Acer fixes it.
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Euclid's Brother said:
Any file manager can access /mnt/external_sd and /mnt/usb_storage.
Drive mount or USB mount all can mount ntfs drives. Must be rooted.
Can only access internal memory front PC. End of story until google/Acer fixes it.
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I am on 3.1 ota and I wanted to root it for ntfs support.....but don't want to void my warranty.....(weather here is too humid so generally all electronic devices don't work or something or the other happens to them)...so I will unroot later to claim my warranty.....what else can I do with root.....(no custom roms..).......
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1. Is there any app, running on the tablet, which will allow me to see the file system on a USB thumbdrive? Which one. It's odd to me that I can see the drive, apparently properly formed, in the tablet "system settings" app, but (so far) haven't seen how to get at it myself, and haven't found an app which access it either.
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Any file system application (ASTRO, Root Explorer) can access all storage devices in your system. The location for the storage devices is /mnt.
Note that the /mnt/sdcard directory is actually a FUSE mount of /data/local
The directories related to storage are:
/mnt/sdcard - a FUSE image of /data/local. This is internal storage.
/mnt/external_sd - The microSD card. Must be FAT32.
/mnt/usb_drive - A USB drive of some sorts...can be a thumb drive or a hard drive. Not sure about 3.1, but 3.0.1 needed this drive to be FAT32.
2. Is there an application, running on the PC, or an app running on the tablet, which let's me see the file systems on tablet, tablet's sdhc chip, thumb drive and PC storage in a unified way, so I can move things around without unplugging stuff? That is harder, but one of those networked file access utilities might do it.
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Answer...other than ADB, no (until Acer fixes that). When you mount your tablet to your PC, you are connecting to a FUSE partition, which is an image of /data/local. You can transfer files between /data/local (via FUSE partition) and your PC. Unfortunately, because you are accessing a FUSE partition, you are restricted to only /data/local (so you can't get to /mnt). ADB is a known exception (as it uses USB Debugging to access the tablet), but that isn't graphical at all (all command line, which means it is a lot of typing).
op mentioned ES file explorer
Use it myself - as I really like the interface and the LAN access works great for me.
You can see all your storage devices from es explorer
/mnt/sdcard = internal memory
/mnt/external_sd = microsd card
/mnt/USB_drive = USB based storage device
If you want to mount ntfs you need to root.
Hi perhaps some of you with a Nexus 7 can help me.
I've recently got a 16GB version but I seem to have strange problem with copying data to the device. For example, if I have a folder of photos I copy over, either over wireless or using USB MTP all the copied files on the device have had their modification dates altered to the exact time of the copy procedure - each file has a second difference between them with all the same date. The files on my computer have there correct modification dates on them.
This happens with all types of file; video, pictures, zips etc and also under Windows and OS X. This doesn't happen on my SGSII with a custom ICS ROM running 4.0.4 but I connect that via USB Mass Storage and not USB MTP.
Any ideas? Why would USB MTP alter the files in this way? It's making organisation and sorting a nightmare.
My Nexus 7 is rooted, unlocked etc using the Toolkit.
From what I understand, this is a file system issue. Fat32, which is what's used by your phone with UMS, will preserve the original timestamp, but I believe that ext (still not sure if it's ext3 or ext4), which is used by the Nexus 7, will use the file creation time as the timestamp.
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From what I understand, this is a file system issue. Fat32, which is what's used by your phone with UMS, will preserve the original timestamp, but I believe that ext (still not sure if it's ext3 or ext4), which is used by the Nexus 7, will use the file creation time as the timestamp.
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Seriously? That's crazy! Is there no way to change that? Surely this is a major flaw. I have photos etc which must retain there original timestamps.
It's a problem inherent to the file system used. I believe that there might be a way to do the copying on the Nexus 7's end and use some type of command line argument to preserve the original timestamp, but this would require you to mount a storage device to the Nexus 7 via USB OTG to copy the files from. It would also require someone with Linux experience to tell you how to do it because I have almost none.
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It's a problem inherent to the file system used. I believe that there might be a way to do the copying on the Nexus 7's end and use some type of command line argument to preserve the original timestamp, but this would require you to mount a storage device to the Nexus 7 via USB OTG to copy the files from. It would also require someone with Linux experience to tell you how to do it because I have almost none.
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All that just to copy some photos over? No wonder people buy iPads. Guess this tab is going back to Google. No way to format it as FAT32? Also, if it's using EXT, why is the individual file size still limited to 4GB?
Nope, you can't format it to FAT32. Someone with more Linux knowledge than I have will need to answer your 4gb question (I've been wondering about it myself). Maybe someone else has another easy solution to your timestamp problem that I'm not familiar with.
ok guys i've got a minor inconvenience with my nexus 7.
first of all my device:
i'm running paranoidandroid 2.23 with clemsyn's power saving kernel. which i can recommend because it works like a charm and uses very little battery.
but now to my problem:
i'm using a 60gb external HDD with an OTG cable connected to my nexus 7. the problem now is, that the hdd is formatted in ntfs, which i won't change. everytime i connect my hdd to the nexus 7 the android system automatically mounts the partition READONLY as /storage/usbdisk.
i'm using "Paragon NTFS & HFS+" to mount ntfs partitions as R/W, which does of course not work since the partition is altready mounted by the android system. so now i always have to manually unmount the partition in android settings and then remount it with Paragon NTFS & HFS+.
my question now is: is there any way to disable the android system's automount of external usb mass storage device?
i know it's just a small inconvenience but it really gets to me, there must be some way around this hassle.
thx in advance
uuzi
Sorry for not having an answer, just wanted to +1 this. I could really use this solution as well.
Seriously need an answer. I tried deleting the last line of vold.fstab, which worked, but then my music players couldn't see anything, even if the drive was mounted with Paragon or OTG Helper
SkyBehind said:
Seriously need an answer. I tried deleting the last line of vold.fstab, which worked, but then my music players couldn't see anything, even if the drive was mounted with Paragon or OTG Helper
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Still having the same problem right now..
Anyone knows something about?
I've same problem. Anyone can help ? Plz
You guys are patient lol.
I'd really like to know as well
Hello all,
I just rooted and patched to 4.4 on my nexus 10. I have been trying for 3 days to get it to let me use usb external storage and to no avail. I have tried stickmount and i can get it to mount the usb but when I use file manager it shows up but the folder is empty, and wont let me copy anything to it either. So then I tried nexus media importer it looks for the device then fails. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong I can get stickmount to work with 128mg stick, 4g stick, and 1g stick but when i try a larger one it loads it but the folder is empty, any help would be appreciated, thank you.
Have you tried attempting to activate the new file picker implemented in KitKat? I was wondering if this would support OTG functionality.
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Yeah I tried the new file picker but didn't do much for me.
So i have a Nexus Player with Marshmallow 6.0 intalled (rooted). I have 2 usb sticks (16Gb & 32Gb) both are SanDisk USB 3.0 Sticks. Both are formatted using the Nexus Player "Storage & Reset" option.
With the latest ES File Manager and SuperSU i try to create certain folder within the USB sticks, but every time it says: "Please choose the root directory XXXXXX of ext-SDCard to grant ES permission to operate". I have StickMount installed and gave it grant permissions with SuperSU. Did not do any good..
From research on the internet i understand that marshmallow no longer allows external sd card nor USB sticks as external storage?
Is there a way to fix (bypass) this?
Did a search on this, but unfortunately without any success..
Both USB's are recognized when i start up ES File Manager, but as soon I want to create/copy a folder to one of the USB stick, is says sorry action failed.
ALso tried to start Root explorer from within ES File Manager but again it says: "Sorry, test failed. This feature cannot run on your device".
Anybody?
I would like to know this as well. I currently use two 1TB hard drives on my NP on 5.1.1. It would be really nice to be able to update to 6.0, but the last time I tried that I could not get my drives to work.
Not sure if this is a solution you are looking for, but I am my Nexus Player on Marshmallow 6.0. I have a 5 TB usb drive attached to my Netgear R7000 router. I have successfully network mounted (over wifi) my drive and all apps see it natively. No need to use the Nexus Player USB port. I wrote these instructions a little over a year ago and they still work for Android 6.0