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[Q] Candian Nexus S on AT&T ?

Is it possible that I can use the Canadian Nexus S Rogers/Fido on AT&T with the cheap "dumbphone" $15 data plan? The reason I'm asking this is because it's the only unlimited data plan ATT still has and I have been using a Motorola Milestone on AT&T with the cheaper dataplan for about a year now. Anyone who's running it on AT&T please reply with some insight. Thank You!

MeNaCe2s0cieTy said:
Is it possible that I can use the Canadian Nexus S Rogers/Fido on AT&T with the cheap "dumbphone" $15 data plan? The reason I'm asking this is because it's the only unlimited data plan ATT still has and I have been using a Motorola Milestone on AT&T with the cheaper dataplan for about a year now. Anyone who's running it on AT&T please reply with some insight. Thank You!
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I don't see why it wouldn't work...just pop in the sim card from your milestone into your nexus s. Not sure how it works in the US though.
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MeNaCe2s0cieTy said:
Is it possible that I can use the Canadian Nexus S Rogers/Fido on AT&T with the cheap "dumbphone" $15 data plan? The reason I'm asking this is because it's the only unlimited data plan ATT still has and I have been using a Motorola Milestone on AT&T with the cheaper dataplan for about a year now. Anyone who's running it on AT&T please reply with some insight. Thank You!
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It will work, but with the nexus one some people were getting auto upgraded due to smartphone use. I don't know if the same as seen on the Nexus s .
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Make sure the Canadian Nexus S supports AT&T's 3G. I have a Nexus S on AT&T network and I am stuck with only 2G...

hmm.. it seems that the Canadian Nexus S will work fine on AT&T but I'm mostly worried about being upgraded to the smartphone plan like krohnjw said. If anyone else can elaborate that would be great because I'm looking to buy one within an hour. Again thank you all for your input!

MeNaCe2s0cieTy said:
hmm.. it seems that the Canadian Nexus S will work fine on AT&T but I'm mostly worried about being upgraded to the smartphone plan like krohnjw said. If anyone else can elaborate that would be great because I'm looking to buy one within an hour. Again thank you all for your input!
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Make sure the canadian nexus s isn't the wind/mobilicity version. Rogers/Fido will perfect on att. If don't inform att on the phone you're currently using there shouldn't be any reason for them to suspect that you're using a smartphone. If you happen to be racking up some crazy data per month, only then would they suspect you to have some sort of smartphone. Hope it works out for you.
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djnoicatse said:
Make sure the canadian nexus s isn't the wind/mobilicity version. Rogers/Fido will perfect on att. If don't inform att on the phone you're currently using there shouldn't be any reason for them to suspect that you're using a smartphone. If you happen to be racking up some crazy data per month, only then would they suspect you to have some sort of smartphone. Hope it works out for you.
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Sure they can - they know your IMEI when you register on the network. Quite a few Nexus One owners got the dreaded SMS message indicating they were being switched to a Smart phone plan and losing their old data plans due to usage alone.

Medianet or Smartphone Data Plan on At&t?

So will At&t recognize this phone as Smartphone and will require $20 or $30 data plan or medianet plan will work? Any feedback?

Smartphone, obviously.

Drumist doesn't know what he's talking about. The Galaxy Nexus got about a year of medianet service, I think we can expect the Nexus 4 to do the same since AT&T won't have the IMEI's for these phones.
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What do you mean 1 year of service?
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The gnex was marked as not medianet about a week ago along with many other Samsung phones. The Nexus 4 is likely to last longer since LG does not have a history of sharing IMEI's with carriers.
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The nexus 4 should work fine on medianet just like every other unlocked unbranded att compatible device. With the exception of samsung and htc nexus devices.
My international galaxy note has been working fine on medianet for almost a year now. Unless LG gave att their IMEI's the nexus 4 should fly under the radar with medianet.

So would we just use the imei number of the nexus 4 and select the unlimited data for feature phones? Even with that route it comes to about 70 but 61 with a corporate discount. Might do this if possible.
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inurb said:
The nexus 4 should work fine on medianet just like every other unlocked unbranded att compatible device. With the exception of samsung and htc nexus devices.
My international galaxy note has been working fine on medianet for almost a year now. Unless LG gave att their IMEI's the nexus 4 should fly under the radar with medianet.
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Are there any updates on this? Has anyone tried?

For those using medianet plan did att throttle your speeds? were you able to get hspa+ on medianet vs the regular data plan($30/3GB)?

how do we choose medianet plan?

I recently received a text message stating that I needed a data plan in order to use my current phone.
(Pantech Link with 10/month unlimited data is my current plan)
I have switched out my at&t sim into these phones
1. Galaxy s blaze 4g
2. t989 (tmobile galaxy s ii)
I received this messages after 4 months of continuous usage on the blaze.
I didnt realize at&t had tmobile IMEIs
I called up att and they stated that "I was using a samsung and their system doesnt glitch"
how can I avoid this text message switching me onto a smartphone data plan.
So what phones can I use with the media-net plan and be completely protected?

This is my experience. I've had the international sgs2 and galaxy note. I was able to use the non-smartphone plan with both of those. Last week I received my nexus 4 and called at&t to change from a smartphone plan to a non-smartphone plan. I told them that I had an old phone and I wanted to remove the lte plan and add the $15 media net. Everything went well until she tried to add the media net to my plan. She said that she couldn't find my phone's imei in their data base. I told her that its not an at&t phone, its an old gsm phone that I purchased from eBay. She fiddled around for probably 10 minutes trying to find out exactly what kind of phone I had. I could here her typing and talking to somebody and then she read from her computer screen, "Google Nexus 4". She said that she used Google to find out what kind of phone I had. This is the first time this has happened to me. She said that now they can not add any data to a phone if they don't know exactly what the phone is.
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lyall29 said:
This is my experience. I've had the international sgs2 and galaxy note. I was able to use the non-smartphone plan with both of those. Last week I received my nexus 4 and called at&t to change from a smartphone plan to a non-smartphone plan. I told them that I had an old phone and I wanted to remove the lte plan and add the $15 media net. Everything went well until she tried to add the media net to my plan. She said that she couldn't find my phone's imei in their data base. I told her that its not an at&t phone, its an old gsm phone that I purchased from eBay. She fiddled around for probably 10 minutes trying to find out exactly what kind of phone I had. I could here her typing and talking to somebody and then she read from her computer screen, "Google Nexus 4". She said that she used Google to find out what kind of phone I had. This is the first time this has happened to me. She said that now they can not add any data to a phone if they don't know exactly what the phone is.
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Question is;
Why did you give her IMEI from your N4?
Is your sgs2 still working? What IMEI do they have for sgs2?

Anyone Running Their Nexus 4 On AT&T MediaNet?

I've been running phones on medianet unlimited for over 7 years now. In the past I saw threads where the original Nexus and Nexus S were detected by AT&T and were forced to use smartphone plans. Before purchasing this phone I wanted to check if this version of the Nexus was also detected as a smartphone. I've been using an international galaxy Note for a year on the $10 medianet plan and was hoping the Nexus 4 could also work on medianet.
Thanks

No, sorry
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There are some that are using medianet with their smartphones.. You need to change the apn settings to whatever they are for medianet.. If I run by the forums with the information I will post it here for you.
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N!ghtgold said:
There are some that are using medianet with their smartphones.. You need to change the apn settings to whatever they are for medianet.. If I run by the forums with the information I will post it here for you.
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I think the question is not in th APN used, but if AT&T recognizes IMEI number as smartphone - if it does, it will force data plan on you.
I've been usin Nokia phones for several years across the family and haven't paid more than $10/month for unlimited internet...
Wonder if the same trick will work with Nexus 4...
Anyone n the know - could you please post?

when I get my N4, I plan on switching to medianet $15/month unlimited data. Hopefully they wont recognize the IMEI

Medianet plan does not work with nexus 4..just came from att store..and rep put medianet plan for me..but when i got home..i recived text from att that i have smartphone.

Been running MediaNet all day on my N4, got a smartphone prompt on my GNex a few times...a quick call into customer service fixes it right away.

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Been running MediaNet all day on my N4, got a smartphone prompt on my GNex a few times...a quick call into customer service fixes it right away.
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That's great! I was wondering if you could report here occasionally for a few weeks to keep us updated on whether you still have medianet or if you got switched. Would be much appreciated!
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foehammer92 said:
That's great! I was wondering if you could report here occasionally for a few weeks to keep us updated on whether you still have medianet or if you got switched. Would be much appreciated!
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Will do, I am sure that even if they change it I will be able to get customer service to change it again. Never had a problem with them questioning me.

i call att and got medianet back...does anyone if it runs on HSPA+? any APN setting for it?

pbpatel1981 said:
i call att and got medianet back...does anyone if it runs on HSPA+? any APN setting for it?
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I'm getting it using wap.cingular
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I'm getting it using wap.cingular
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you mean default apn? well that work fine for me too but i am not sure if its HSPA+ or not..
i watch transformer with out any problem.

pbpatel1981 said:
you mean default apn? well that work fine for me too but i am not sure if its HSPA+ or not..
i watch transformer with out any problem.
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It is, you can find it by going to settings>about phone>status and look under mobile network type.
If your connection is idle it will say HSPA:10 but fire up Pandora or any music service and check, it will say HSPA:15

Just ordered the gn4 for the gf, hopefully the dumb phone data plan will still work for it

Yeah definitely hoping this will not get flagged and continue working. The phone has amazing specs and is dirt cheap. Definitely much cheaper than the HTC One X and has pretty much the same specs but for half the price.

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Will do, I am sure that even if they change it I will be able to get customer service to change it again. Never had a problem with them questioning me.
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Thanks for the info about calling customer service! What do you usually tell them? I just got flagged on my gnex and will getting my nexus 4 soon. Should I say something along the lines of "I don't have a smart phone."

azncber said:
Yeah definitely hoping this will not get flagged and continue working. The phone has amazing specs and is dirt cheap. Definitely much cheaper than the HTC One X and has pretty much the same specs but for half the price.
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AT&T doesn't seem to know this phone's a smartphone. When I switched my SIM from my Nexus One to the Nexus 4, my 2GB DataPro plan was removed and changed to whatever their dumbphone unlimtied plan was.
It was a pain in ass to get them to switch it back to a 2GB DataPro w/ LTE plan. Without the LTE plan, you don't have access to the HSPA+ APN, so you'll be limited to 1mbit downstream max. People have been getting ~3-5mbit (or higher I think) on the HSPA+ APN.

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Without the LTE plan, you don't have access to the HSPA+ APN, so you'll be limited to 1mbit downstream max. People have been getting ~3-5mbit (or higher I think) on the HSPA+ APN.
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Where'd you hear that the MediaNET cap is 1Mbps? AFAIK, it's 7Mbps. That's what the GSIII forums say. I can't even run Speedtest.net (says I'm getting 0.8KB/s...) so I can't verify, but I'm pretty sure I'm getting over 1Mbps. In fact, the Galaxy S came from still gets 400KB/s (~3.2Mbps) so I'm pretty sure that MediaNET goes above 1Mbps.

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Where'd you hear that the MediaNET cap is 1Mbps? AFAIK, it's 7Mbps. That's what the GSIII forums say. I can't even run Speedtest.net (says I'm getting 0.8KB/s...) so I can't verify, but I'm pretty sure I'm getting over 1Mbps. In fact, the Galaxy S came from still gets 400KB/s (~3.2Mbps) so I'm pretty sure that MediaNET goes above 1Mbps.
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I didn't hear that MEdiaNet was throttled, but I did experience something similar to your situation. While on "wap.cingular", Speedtest.net would act strange(9kbps downstream, ~1mbit up). I went to the store and got a new MicroSIM I couldn't get anything faster than 1Mbit. I called in, told them the Nexus 4 was an LTE phone so I could get provisioned for the HSPA+ APN's. They told me to power cycle (I just switched APN's from "wap.cingular" to "pta"), and I immediately saw 3Mbit.
So given this, I can only deduce that whatever plan I was provisioned for when I was taken off my 2GB DataPro was capped at 1Mbit. Given your findings, I'm concluding that anyone that had 3G service(MEdiaNet) before they rolled out HSPA+/LTEhad an unthrottled 3G service and anyone that gets it today gets throttled("Featurephone Data").
Also, the fact your Speedtest.net app is acting funny is usually a sign you're on the gimped plan that I got auto-switched to("Featurephone Data").
I can only guess and share my experiences -- since it seems the AT&T monster and their inner workings are far more complex then I gave them credit for. The same wap.cingular APN I was on, doesn't seem to be the same one those GS III guys are on.

Tbh, I don't really care for this thread. I can see that I'm getting HSPA+:15 when I use cellular data, and my transfer speeds are as good as they were with my old phone. I'm only paying $10 for almost 3G (US 3G is the worst 3G...), and ~400KB/s is fast enough for my usage. I can even streaming HD Netflix; I don't, but it's a good benchmark.
Also, the MediaNET plans are not monitored for consumption at all, so I have a true unlimited plan. When I first moved into a new apartment last October, Comcast was being stupid and couldn't get me internet for 3 weeks. I tethered for myself, my roommate, and all of our many daily guests. >10GB down during that time, at least 2GB up, and not a word from AT&T. Until AT&T gets a Nexus 4 variant, I'm not worried about my IMEI being recognized as a smartphone and automatically jacked up to an overpriced 2GB plan with faster speeds but marginal real-world benefit.
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I can only guess and share my experiences -- since it seems the AT&T monster and their inner workings are far more complex then I gave them credit for. The same wap.cingular APN I was on, doesn't seem to be the same one those GS III guys are on.
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There's something we can wholeheartedly agree on. AT&T, y u so evil?

$10 family unlimited plan on AT&T? With Nexus 4?

I know att sells the LG Optimus G.
But is anyone using the Nexus 4 on the $10/family unlimited data plan for feature phones since att doesn't carry the nexus 4? Heard people got away with $10 data plan on Galaxy Nexus. But ATT audited Nexus One owners a couple of years ago and switched them.
So LG Optimus G is similar to Nexus 4 so maybe ATT may audit Nexus 4 also?
I am getting my Nexus 4 today. I have iPhone 5 as my main line. But would like to add data to my Nexus 4 with secondary line. Not going to use much data anyways but don't want to pay $30 for data I don't need and 300mb $20 plan is a rip off.

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I know att sells the LG Optimus G.
But is anyone using the Nexus 4 on the $10/family unlimited data plan for feature phones since att doesn't carry the nexus 4? Heard people got away with $10 data plan on Galaxy Nexus. But ATT audited Nexus One owners a couple of years ago and switched them.
So LG Optimus G is similar to Nexus 4 so maybe ATT may audit Nexus 4 also?
I am getting my Nexus 4 today. I have iPhone 5 as my main line. But would like to add data to my Nexus 4 with secondary line. Not going to use much data anyways but don't want to pay $30 for data I don't need and 300mb $20 plan is a rip off.
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The IMEI number of this phone is not in AT&T's system, its completely different than the optimus. You'll have to call them to make sure of the IMEI number and they should be able to put you on that plan. It will be considered a simple phone. Its $10 data with $10 unlimited text or $15 data only.

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The IMEI number of this phone is not in AT&T's system, its completely different than the optimus. You'll have to call them to make sure of the IMEI number and they should be able to put you on that plan. It will be considered a simple phone. Its $10 data with $10 unlimited text or $15 data only.
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Great. Thanks.
ATT system of detecting phones is screwy. I had blackberry bold international unlocked and it didn't recognize it. But ATT recognized my unlocked T-mobile branded blackberry curve as a Blackberry Pearl.
So it seems hit or miss.

My contract is set to expire in january coming from an iphone 4, Can I just drop the iphone data and add the dumbphone data and text and make my plan cheaper?

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My contract is set to expire in january coming from an iphone 4, Can I just drop the iphone data and add the dumbphone data and text and make my plan cheaper?
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Yeah. Seems like it. That's why I asked the question.
Sometimes ATT's systems recognized non ATT smartphones (like the original Nexus One) and ATT put people who were on the $10/15 feature phone data plan and switched them automatically onto the $30 smartphone data plan.
But I think people who had international Galaxy S3 and other non ATT phones can get away with the $10/15 feature phone data plans.

Does the gn4 on play store work on sprint?

Does the Google Nexus 4 on play store work on sprint?
Sprint has the Nexus on their site but not the Nexus 4.
My contract is up and kinda wanting a Nexus this time around.
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_4_8GB?id=nexus_4_8gb

trsix said:
Does the Google Nexus 4 on play store work on sprint?
Sprint has the Nexus on their site but not the Nexus 4.
My contract is up and kinda wanting a Nexus this time around.
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_4_8GB?id=nexus_4_8gb
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The Nexus 4 won't work on Sprint. You'll need to use a carrier that uses a SIM card. I switched from Sprint to Straight Talk and my data is about 10x faster in NYC (its usually faster than Wi-Max in my usage), the coverage is better too.

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The Nexus 4 won't work on Sprint. You'll need to use a carrier that uses a SIM card. I switched from Sprint to Straight Talk and my data is about 10x faster in NYC (its usually faster than Wi-Max in my usage), the coverage is better too.
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Thanks for the reply
Or maybe i'll wait n see if this happens (below link). I get 19% off my sprint plan cause of work. so it;s only $60 something a month for unlimited everything.
http://www.sprintnewphones.org/the-google-nexus-4-sprint-new-phones-2013/#respond

tatical said:
The Nexus 4 won't work on Sprint. You'll need to use a carrier that uses a SIM card. I switched from Sprint to Straight Talk and my data is about 10x faster in NYC (its usually faster than Wi-Max in my usage), the coverage is better too.
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Can you tell me your APN settings for straight talk and what Sim card your using. T-Mobile or AT&T? I too live in NYC and switched from Sprint after 16 years. I went to AT&T with an LTE plan. I have the GS3 and a Nexus 4. I understand that the nexus is not an LTE device but the data speeds on HSPA APN that I added is not going pass 5mb down and 1 up.
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trsix said:
Thanks for the reply
Or maybe i'll wait n see if this happens (below link). I get 19% off my sprint plan cause of work. so it;s only $60 something a month for unlimited everything.
http://www.sprintnewphones.org/the-google-nexus-4-sprint-new-phones-2013/#respond
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You probably get a T-Mobile discount as well. My company gives a corporate discount for every carrier.
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