Do we get 4.2 update? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does anyone thinks that, Nexus 7 will get 4.2 update? As we just received 4.1.2 update few days ago. It will be surprising, if we get update soon...
Whats your thoughts?

Yes, this is a nexus device,
We will likely get it the same day.

Rxpert said:
Yes, this is a nexus device,
We will likely get it the same day.
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This. That's why you go nexus, after all

Rxpert said:
Yes, this is a nexus device,
We will likely get it the same day.
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Does all past nexus devices runs on 4.1.2?

hirenvasani said:
Does all past nexus devices runs on 4.1.2?
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[DEV] [ROM] [N1] Evervolv Jellybean w/ nightly builds
JellyBean on the Nexus One

5.0 isn't even questioned let alone 4.2. Nexus 7 will be getting updates for quite awhile. The only way Google wouldn't update it is if they decide to get all Samsung on us and reskin AOSP in PNGs made at Industrial Light and Magic
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Nexus devices will always have development until the hardware can no longer handle the os. To put things in perspective, the nexus one runs jellybean pretty well, from what I'm reading.

The Nexus One got cut off by Google at Gingerbread because the system storage was only 190MB and ICS and JB would never fit on the partition. Developers got around it by resizing and creating partitions on the MicroSD Card.
Nexus S officially got 4.1.2 by Google and it's only a single core, 1ghz, 512MB shared RAM device.. Only 340MB of RAM is usable on stock kernels and it runs JB decently. Custom kernels allow it to have 407MB of usable RAM by using Big HIGHMEM.
Nexus S has been one of the best supported, best performing (considering its age) phones I've ever owned.. When I finally replace it I'm not selling it as I'm keeping it as imo it's a legendary handset.. I think 4.1.2 is the last official update the phone will see though. While JB runs decent on it, it's obvious it's pushing the limits of the phones hardware..

styckx said:
The Nexus One got cut off by Google at Gingerbread because the system storage was only 190MB and ICS and JB would never fit on the partition. Developers got around it by resizing and creating partitions on the MicroSD Card.
Nexus S officially got 4.1.2 by Google and it's only a single core, 1ghz, 512MB shared RAM device.. Only 340MB of RAM is usable on stock kernels and it runs JB decently. Custom kernels allow it to have 407MB of usable RAM by using Big HIGHMEM.
Nexus S has been one of the best supported, best performing (considering its age) phones I've ever owned.. When I finally replace it I'm not selling it as I'm keeping it as imo it's a legendary handset.. I think 4.1.2 is the last official update the phone will see though. While JB runs decent on it, it's obvious it's pushing the limits of the phones hardware..
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The Nexus 4 could be a future star, I mean I can't see Android actually needing 2 GB RAM & quad-core SoC as a minimum requirement until Arm releases their V8 64-bit chips for smartphones in around 2015.

styckx said:
The Nexus One got cut off by Google at Gingerbread because the system storage was only 190MB and ICS and JB would never fit on the partition. Developers got around it by resizing and creating partitions on the MicroSD Card.
Nexus S officially got 4.1.2 by Google and it's only a single core, 1ghz, 512MB shared RAM device.. Only 340MB of RAM is usable on stock kernels and it runs JB decently. Custom kernels allow it to have 407MB of usable RAM by using Big HIGHMEM.
Nexus S has been one of the best supported, best performing (considering its age) phones I've ever owned.. When I finally replace it I'm not selling it as I'm keeping it as imo it's a legendary handset.. I think 4.1.2 is the last official update the phone will see though. While JB runs decent on it, it's obvious it's pushing the limits of the phones hardware..
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The nexus S is awesome I agree. I can't say I'll ever get rid of mine too.
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[Discussion] Android 4.1/5.0

This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
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Billchen0014 said:
This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
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new os means a new nexus phone, so i doubt a new os is coming .. just a minor update if anything
Performance issues? I doubt it. Features don't necessarily mean slower though, better with ICSs built in data limiter/tracker than a 3rd party app for example. Depends on what they add though, of course.
Small chance we'll get it though. I'm leaning towards a fat no if it's released beyond August or so, before that and we may have a chance. Either way, we'll have rock solid ports within weeks, just like ICS. It amazed me how stable initial ports of ICS were before it was released officially, it was my daily driver (i believe i used eugenes). I have (blind?) faith in the same thing when JB is released.
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Performance issues? I doubt it. Features don't necessarily mean slower though, better with ICSs built in data limiter/tracker than a 3rd party app for example. Depends on what they add though, of course.
Small chance we'll get it though. I'm leaning towards a fat no if it's released beyond August or so, before that and we may have a chance. Either way, we'll have rock solid ports within weeks, just like ICS. It amazed me how stable initial ports of ICS were before it was released officially, it was my daily driver (i believe i used eugenes). I have (blind?) faith in the same thing when JB is released.
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I am 100% confident that there will be minimum visual changes. The dev team spend so much effort into making a guideline for Android app designs, they are most certainly not gonna ditch that. So that leaves us with one other major change Google can bring to the platform: speed improvements. Both app speeds and overall smoothness. If you check Google io app and the schedules in there, one of them is all about app smoothness and maintaining a constant frame rate. I am hoping that third party apps will be as smooth as the iOS counter parts within a few releases. But back to what this thread is about: I think NS is highly likely to get this update, since it runs ICS okay, but not as fast as some desired, (multi-tasking). So this update should be like froyo, not much visual, lots of under the hood changes, if NS can run ics, it can run jb.
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I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.
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I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.
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Think about it: it might be a new interface/design for a tablet, Android really need something solid if they want any chance of fighting iOS and windows RT.
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Billchen0014 said:
I am 100% confident that there will be minimum visual changes. The dev team spend so much effort into making a guideline for Android app designs, they are most certainly not gonna ditch that. So that leaves us with one other major change Google can bring to the platform: speed improvements. Both app speeds and overall smoothness. If you check Google io app and the schedules in there, one of them is all about app smoothness and maintaining a constant frame rate. I am hoping that third party apps will be as smooth as the iOS counter parts within a few releases. But back to what this thread is about: I think NS is highly likely to get this update, since it runs ICS okay, but not as fast as some desired, (multi-tasking). So this update should be like froyo, not much visual, lots of under the hood changes, if NS can run ics, it can run jb.
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Considering that it seems like RAM usage is going relatively well within ICS, i can't see any worry about that there. 1GB would've helped in any situation, not just moving toward JB which likely wouldn't make a difference. That's the main thing that could have held the NS back. I'm with you unless IO implies anything otherwise. I'm thinking alot more will have to do with dual and quad core setups than our NSs single, particularly with the idea of constant framerates in mind. I see how there isn't that much left to do in the same environment and considering how much effort was put into ICS little will change that's not well below what we see happening, and most of that relates directly to performance and basically making the UI smoother, prettier and maybe a touch more colourful.
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This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
oops! accidentally beamed from my awesome NEXUS S!
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I think that if it's more bloated and non-optimized, even less handsets could possibly get it then ICS. So I'm more positive NS will get it
Seeing as ICS was meant to be a unification of tablet/smartphone OS, I don't think they would release another tablet exclusive OS to tear that unity apart again. Also, if we're learning from the past here, the Nexus One got two updates before losing support so Jelly Bean should be the final update for the Nexus S.
Also, since ICS was a major interface revamp, I think Jelly Bean's gonna be focusing on other parts so really, Nexus S does not have any reason not to be able to support it. We'll see though
Have you seen this?
http://phandroid.com/2012/06/20/did-we-just-get-a-sneak-peak-at-jelly-bean-in-google-io-screenshot/#
Seems that the new version will be like froyo / GB transition, more improvement, better visuals. Maybe our devices will get the update.
Yea I'd be happy with a few extra features like magel but the main thing for me is probably just speed and making things look a little nicer ..
I hope they call it 4.1 if it's a smallish update though otherwise will have the same issues iOS six had in that really is like 5.5
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/2...in-play-store-outs-jelly-bean-as-android-4-1/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1724180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0WGO6eQd24&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looks like we won't be getting it.......
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What makes you say that?
sdhanjal15 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0WGO6eQd24&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looks like we won't be getting it.......
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True...
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This video has absolutely nothing to do with the Nexus S, so what makes you say we won't be getting it?! Galaxy Nexus has also been the first to get 4.0, so what?
caliban2 said:
I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.
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"all the way" is stretching it though. We got from 2.3.6 to 4.0.4. Much better than the Nexus One in that respect.
Nothing has been set in stone. We won't know until Google says something. I posted those 2 links to show that JB looks to be a minor upgrade from 4.0.4>4.1. I think if this is the case, there's a chance we'd get it. Remember the N1 went from 2.1>2.2>2.3. 4.0 was a major change, which was the need for the first number in the version to change. Just my .02
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Nothing has been set in stone. We won't know until Google says something. I posted those 2 links to show that JB looks to be a minor upgrade from 4.0.4>4.1. I think if this is the case, there's a chance we'd get it. Remember the N1 went from 2.1>2.2>2.3. 4.0 was a major change, which was the need for the first number in the version to change. Just my .02
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Agree with you here. Minor updates are usually pushed, major ones aren't necessarily. I think the only reason the Nexus S got ICS is that there would have been an outcry if we didn't. Seriously, a Google phone with absolutely no upgrade? That would have been ridiculous.

Android 4.1 Jelly Bean

So Jelly Bean is coming. It has some really cool features. Looking forward to see it on our beloved G2. Is it even possible?
http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html
It will also be launched for the Nexus S so the G2 should be capable of running it smothly!
It doesn't seem like that big of a jump compared to the leap from Gingerbread to 4.0. I think the devs will sort it out quickly :good:
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It doesn't seem like that big of a jump compared to the leap from Gingerbread to 4.0. I think the devs will sort it out quickly :good:
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I was thinking the same thing. I mean, that in no way is meant to imply it will be even slightly easy, but I think it will be easier than gingerbread to ICS Hopefully! I will be buying the Nexus 7 anyways so no big worries for a rush there, but I would still love to have it on my phone!
Project Butter improves Android 4.1's speed to a silky-smooth 60FPS
As part of its unveiling of Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, Google has unveiled Project Butter, a major effort to squash Android's frequent problems with device lag, as well as Systrace to help diagnose performance. Project Butter lets the CPU and graphics run in parallel, rather than crash into each other, and has a big impact on both real and perceived speed: the entire interface runs at 60 frames per second on sufficiently fast hardware. Graphics are now triple-buffered to keep scrolling and transitions humming along, and the processor will swing into full gear the moment you touch the screen to keep input lag to a minimum. Systrace, in the meantime, will help developers stamp out what performance hiccups remain. The tracing tool will be a part of the Jelly Bean SDK, so every coder can get an app running in tip-top shape.
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If the G2 is not officially getting ICS it wont get this. We still dont even have the official drivers needed for ICS, probably won't (we're waiting for the ones from the Desire HD to be released).
If there is one thing I learned from this experience is to get a Nexus device.
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I'm really hoping that our talented G2 devs can at least get Jelly Bean on our devices. I'm not going to expect anything beyond that however, given the age of our phones. All that talk about Jelly Bean's "Project Butter" has me worried, though. The only major bugs left in our ICS roms are mostly graphics related (garbled text, random visual glitches), this may be a large roadblock for us.
For an "incremental" 0.1 update, they've packed quite a bit of improvements.
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I'm really hoping that our talented G2 devs can at least get Jelly Bean on our devices. I'm not going to expect anything beyond that however, given the age of our phones. All that talk about Jelly Bean's "Project Butter" has me worried, though. The only major bugs left in our ICS roms are mostly graphics related (garbled text, random visual glitches), this may be a large roadblock for us.
For an "incremental" 0.1 update, they've packed quite a bit of improvements.
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Wouldn't those updates be related to CPU scheduling stuff and other „interesting” parts like that ? I mean, if we get the graphics stack done for 4.0 (HTC, where is that goddamn Desire HD update ?!) it wouldn't be that much of a bother to add some optimizations here and there.
Alas, I am not a dev and no one has seen the source code yet. Better wait for the source to come out and someone to look at it before making assumptions
If the devs can get 4.0 working, 4.1 shouldn't be that big of a deal. We just REALLY need that Desire HD update to come out.
As someone else said, you would need the G2/Vision to get ICS officially before you can have much hope at all of it getting JellyBean. Though we got a lot of ICS roms for the G2 (With the exception of the camera working as well as GB) so who knows.
The Galaxy Nexus has already received an OTA for it :O
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xT4Z1N4TRx said:
The Galaxy Nexus has already received an OTA for it :O
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Well, it was said that it is the first device to receive Jelly Bean.
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Well, it was said that it is the first device to receive Jelly Bean.
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I thought it would take a month or two though
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The Galaxy Nexus has already received an OTA for it :O
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What about the source code? When do they release that, i only see things about galaxy nexus will get half july and stuff.
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The Galaxy Nexus has already received an OTA for it :O
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Well it is a Nexus...
Afaik only google i/o galaxy nexus got the ota. I think that when every galaxy nexus gets the update the source code will be released
Don't you think it's a little bit too early? Cyanogen 10 when we don't have cyanogen 9 but for a few devices?
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Afaik only google i/o galaxy nexus got the ota. I think that when every galaxy nexus gets the update the source code will be released
Don't you think it's a little bit too early? Cyanogen 10 when we don't have cyanogen 9 but for a few devices?
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I think they will cal it cm9.1.
But since they named android 2.2 CM6 and 2.3 CM7 you maybe right.
To anwser your question: No it is not too early because devices with CM9 wont run any slower just because there is an beter and newer CM. So it will only speed up development. The only negative play here could be jealousy towards galaxy nexus users.
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I think they will cal it cm9.1.
But since they named android 2.2 CM6 and 2.3 CM7 you maybe right.
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The CM team has officially stated that their numbering scheme is tied to the code name. That's why they skipped CM8. It corresponded to Honeycomb, which they never ported.
I was wondering if the devs would consider polishing our 4.0 roms? I heard linaro Rom is very good.
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Afaik only google i/o galaxy nexus got the ota. I think that when every galaxy nexus gets the update the source code will be released
Don't you think it's a little bit too early? Cyanogen 10 when we don't have cyanogen 9 but for a few devices?
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Yes I think you're right, but then i think they system dumped and then got a custom rom for all the others ?
Afaik only google i/o galaxy nexus got the ota. I think that when every galaxy nexus gets the update the source code will be released
Don't you think it's a little bit too early? Cyanogen 10 when we don't have cyanogen 9 but for a few devices?
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Not necessarily. Android updates tends to be updated every 6 months or so if I recall. ICS was late last year, so it kind of makes sense. My guess is that development has seemed slow for several reason.
1) Drastic changes, especially in the camera, from 2.3 to 4.0
2) Honeycomb never was truly "released", thus a gap that allowed Gingerbread to be polished.
3) CM servers were down for a while, possibly cutting into early nightlies for CM9.
I had a fourth point and now I can't remember it. Maybe something about manufacturers being slow this time around. I remember reading that it typically took manufacturers 60 days on average to update their devices after a release. Seems longer now (again, possibly with changes).
Maybe I'm completely off. I didn't join the Android team until 2.2 so I never knew the older versions. :laugh:
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Jelly Bean Android 4.1

Guys in live you can see the Google I/O conference,
http://www.youtube.com/user/googledevelopers?feature=results_main
Say what do you think about that !!
Good luck for Texasice, DK-Zero-Cool to bring to us the best experience for Our beloved Nexus even after 2 years of good and loyal service
Like we are ever going to get jelly bean... We don't even have a functional bug free ics after almost a year.
We have 90% ICS. Only Camera video recording is outstanding. Same on many other ROMS for other handsets I presume.
BTW, will ICS ever be 100% on Nexus One? What do you think? ICS camera dev seems to be dead
Perhaps if we get 3 years out of owning the N1 we can hold our heads high and be proud enough to move on!
Here's to 5 new Nexus on Nov 5th, and then cheaper Nexus in 6 months after that - so roll on May 2013 I say!
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Perhaps if we get 3 years out of owning the N1 we can hold our heads high and be proud enough to move on!
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^^ This..
I am waiting for the next Nexus device. Im hopping it will have a 5 Inch screen..
same here waiting for the next nexus device and praying it will not be made by samsung since i never had good times with there products
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^^ This..
I am waiting for the next Nexus device. Im hopping it will have a 5 Inch screen..
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ah i was watching Jelly Bean running on GN and it is just so fluid! i was beginning to feel so dare i say jealous, but you guys have totally given me new hope!
If we can hold out a couple of months for the next Nexus we can be proud YES1 :highfive:
Nexus One is our hero. long standing, trustworthy little guy. :victory:
race55 said:
Like we are ever going to get jelly bean... We don't even have a functional bug free ics after almost a year.
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Try this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557606
I have been using for couple of months, I find it functional and stable.
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^^ This..
I am waiting for the next Nexus device. Im hopping it will have a 5 Inch screen..
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Hope there will be a 3.7" top notch as well!
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4.3'' is perfect or 4.5
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5.3" please. Bigger IS better
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Buy a tablet
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But that won't fit in my pocket. What I'm planning on is a 5.x phablet and a 10" tablet, both Nexus devices.
Ah well, we can all dream
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As for now, almost half a year, we don't have an ICS stable release and neither we will have it soon, I don't think, in a near future, we will have a JB stable one, although this is just a minor release.
I wish the devs did not agree with me
How do you mean not stable? It's perfectly stable and fast. Only the camcorder does not work very well.
I am going to stay with CM7.2 on my nexus one. It's very stable and efficient. Then when the next device comes out I am going use this as my music player
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How do you mean not stable? It's perfectly stable and fast. Only the camcorder does not work very well.
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For me it is very stable but CM9 & AOKP ROMs didn't reached stable requirements yet because they have bugs that are important to fix and crucial for the rom's workflow. They are considered experimental for now (CM team released this week CM9 RC1).
Jelly Bean looks bad ass, especially with project butter and the new voice command.
It is also the reason I have finally decided to move on from my N1 after 2 and a half years of loyal service. The failing battery, the half-functioning trackball, and constantly battling internal storage woes have forced me to move on.
The good news is there is a Galaxy Nexus with my name on it, heading my way right now.
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Jelly Bean looks bad ass, especially with project butter and the new voice command.
It is also the reason I have finally decided to move on from my N1 after 2 and a half years of loyal service. The failing battery, the half-functioning trackball, and constantly battling internal storage woes have forced me to move on.
The good news is there is a Galaxy Nexus with my name on it, heading my way right now.
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Even Google drops the price of galaxy nexus to $300, I will stick with the N1.
I'm really hoping the devs can integrate some of the new things in Jelly Bean to their current ROMs without much extra work. I think it should be possible due to very incremental nature of the update.
That said, I've pretty much accepted that if it is possible, it's highly unlikely they'll be able to integrate the Project Butter stuff from what Google has said about it! Seems it will use massive amounts of system storage and RAM, so that's almost definitely out of our N1's capabilities.
I would be amazed if they managed to get that in there. I still hope they can manage to get Google Now and all the other little tweaks in to a potential JB ROM for the N1.
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I'm really hoping the devs can integrate some of the new things in Jelly Bean to their current ROMs without much extra work. I think it should be possible due to very incremental nature of the update.
That said, I've pretty much accepted that if it is possible, it's highly unlikely they'll be able to integrate the Project Butter stuff from what Google has said about it! Seems it will use massive amounts of system storage and RAM, so that's almost definitely out of our N1's capabilities.
I would be amazed if they managed to get that in there. I still hope they can manage to get Google Now and all the other little tweaks in to a potential JB ROM for the N1.
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Especially the New status bar
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Jellybean on our devices

Recently Google has announced Android 4.1 (code named Jelly Bean) at their I/O conference.
I don't think Samsung will update our devices with 4.1.
So what are your thoughts on this?
If they do, it will be in 2 years when nobody cares about it anymore.
:/
Why wait for Samsung when we have nearly fully functioning CM9, meaning we can have fully functioning AOSP as well. What would be better than an AOSP JB build?
mussieonlinux said:
Recently Google has announced Android 4.1 (code named Jelly Bean) at their I/O conference.
I don't think Samsung will update our devices with 4.1.
So what are your thoughts on this?
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Why would we not get it? It's a "Small" update that basically just builds off of ICS (Which our devices came with). I seriously doubt it will take longer than 6 months to get it, or if we our lucky we will get a dev port long before then.
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Why wait for Samsung when we have nearly fully functioning CM9, meaning we can have fully functioning AOSP as well. What would be better than an AOSP JB build?
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This is what I was hoping would happen, I read that you were trying to build us a straight from AOSP build which would basically give us the ability to go straight to JB when it is released. The GNexus was rather easy to port over without even having code so hopefully other devices should have a rather easy time as long as they have AOSP for ICS working.
Also, I think as long as we get fully functioning JB I would much rather have this tablet over the Nexus7 so my hands (And wallet) is in your hands devs! =P
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Also, I think as long as we get fully functioning JB I would much rather have this tablet over the Nexus7 so my hands (And wallet) is in your hands devs! =P
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The GTab2 is very similar to the Galaxy Nexus from a hardware perspective, and given that AOSP is almost fully functional minus a few trivial bugs, it should be quite easy to get stock Jelly Bean going once the source is out.
The lack of the MicroSD slot on the tablet is a huge deal breaker for me for the Nexus 7 tablet as I have already found some stuff that complains about a lack of space. Given that it is being marketed as a media/gaming device, it won't take long before the internal storage is filled with content for offline use, even if you have the 16GB version. It's a slight PITA to put stuff on the SD card on our tablets, but at least storage is easily expandable.
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The GTab2 is very similar to the Galaxy Nexus from a hardware perspective, and given that AOSP is almost fully functional minus a few trivial bugs, it should be quite easy to get stock Jelly Bean going once the source is out.
The lack of the MicroSD slot on the tablet is a huge deal breaker for me for the Nexus 7 tablet as I have already found some stuff that complains about a lack of space. Given that it is being marketed as a media/gaming device, it won't take long before the internal storage is filled with content for offline use, even if you have the 16GB version. It's a slight PITA to put stuff on the SD card on our tablets, but at least storage is easily expandable.
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That's exactly how I feel, when I setup my tablet I installed Max Payne, GTAIII, and Shadowgun and just some other various apps (None bigger than 50mb). After doing all that I tried to copy my music straight to the device (~3.5 GB) and it wouldn't fit, luckily I had a 32GB microSD card but if I didn't what would I have to live without? That's a decision I don't want to have to make.
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The GTab2 is very similar to the Galaxy Nexus from a hardware perspective, and given that AOSP is almost fully functional minus a few trivial bugs, it should be quite easy to get stock Jelly Bean going once the source is out.
The lack of the MicroSD slot on the tablet is a huge deal breaker for me for the Nexus 7 tablet as I have already found some stuff that complains about a lack of space. Given that it is being marketed as a media/gaming device, it won't take long before the internal storage is filled with content for offline use, even if you have the 16GB version. It's a slight PITA to put stuff on the SD card on our tablets, but at least storage is easily expandable.
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Any chance of trying to port over the Galaxy Nexus port? I know the GTab 2 and Galaxy Nexus have similar hardware.... Just a thought =P
miketoasty said:
Any chance of trying to port over the Galaxy Nexus port? I know the GTab 2 and Galaxy Nexus have similar hardware.... Just a thought =P
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I'm trying to get a Nexus 7 dump to look at. I don't think the Galaxy Nexus stuff will work because it is xhdpi and we are hdpi. Hoping that the Nexus 7 is hdpi, or it could cause some issues trying to port one of the JB dumps.
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I'm trying to get a Nexus 7 dump to look at. I don't think the Galaxy Nexus stuff will work because it is xhdpi and we are hdpi. Hoping that the Nexus 7 is hdpi, or it could cause some issues trying to port one of the JB dumps.
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Makes sense, from what I heard the Nexus 7 uses 260 DPI, so it would be HDPI. Good luck!
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I'm trying to get a Nexus 7 dump to look at. I don't think the Galaxy Nexus stuff will work because it is xhdpi and we are hdpi. Hoping that the Nexus 7 is hdpi, or it could cause some issues trying to port one of the JB dumps.
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Couldn't we just scale it differently? Nexus 7 stuff shouldn't work because uts completly different except for dpi ...
I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung didn't come out with a new tab in the next few months. I just wish they would offer a touch wiz rom or a google experience rom choice to make updates really fast if you choose to use the google rom. I would buy all Samsung devices if that were the case.
I think we could get Jelly Bean because it isnt a huge update like 2.3 to 4.0.
But even if samsung doenst provide 4.1, the Cyanogenmod Dudes will do it.
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If they do, it will be in 2 years when nobody cares about it anymore.
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Are you serious? Has this been the case with every release of Android? Why? If true, when does the S3 get JB update?
hashibahoohaa said:
Are you serious? Has this been the case with every release of Android? Why? If true, when does the S3 get JB update?
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He is soo serious . Look at the galaxy s .... and this doesn't happen with them all but samsung yep. I'm honestly afraid this and the gs2 are just simply going to be left in the dust .
The tab3 will ship with jb and we'll still be rockin ics
good day.
I think we actually may get it... not sure of the date on this article, but it was one that I stumbled across listing all the devices that are supposed to get Jelly Bean:
http://tips4droid.com/tablets-that-will-get-android-jelly-bean-update/
Currently running CM10 alpha, I wont switch back to stock. But this looks interesting to see Samsung giving a damn about their devices.
mussieonlinux said:
Currently running CM10 alpha, I wont switch back to stock. But this looks interesting to see Samsung giving a damn about their devices.
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Samsung doesn't have an issue with updating their non-carrier locked devices. Their phones and tablets tend to be some of the first updated to the next OS. However, their carrier locked devices take forever to get updated, if they get updated.
I hope Samsung sees the light and gets this update done...
CM10 is awesome although it is still experimental.

So nexus S to get android 4.3/5.0?

Many rumors are suggesting that google is making the next version of android work very well on low end devices.
"Our sources left us with some more info regarding the OS. Android 5.0 will be an optimized OS and will run well even on devices with 512 MB of RAM."
Read more: http://vr-zone.com/articles/exclusi...ll-be-well-optimized/36950.html#ixzz2WYEGklYs
So if that is the case then wouldnt google update the nexus S? I mean if google cant make their own device with 512MB ram run it well then it doesnt inspire much confidence that they really optimized the OS well does it?
I know nexus S has fewer and fewer users everyday but I think google should do it to set a benchmark for low end devices.
Google said they won't be releasing anything new for Nexus S and that their support for it ended with Android 4.1
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Google said they won't be releasing anything new for Nexus S and that their support for it ended with Android 4.1
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But if google is releasing an android update optimized for low end devices then it kinda doesnt make sense.
Android 4.2 uses alot of ram and it made perfect sense that the nexus S didnt get it.
That's why you can choose to install a custom ROM... like CM
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That's why you can choose to install a custom ROM... like CM
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Ofcourse ofcourse I'll be quite interested in it if this really is true about the next version of android. Right now I am on CM10 and am not going to update to 4.2 again as it was a horrible experience.
I really don't think anyone would turn back to a 3 year old phone to update on it. It's counter-productive.
Hope next version of android is indeed lighter on memory but I don't put much faith in it.
Companies need to sell hardware' you know.
They fullfilled their promissed 18 month software support, so i think no, Nexus S probably won't get another official update from Google.
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Well, maybe they officially don't make an update for our phone, but if they're building an OS for 512 MB phone users there is a possibility for the NS to live for over 2 years more, using that ROM. In case they won't release that in official ways, we can always install android 5 (if this is the name) and continue using it, more than 4.2.2 that is too espensive for the Ram
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"Our sources left us with some more info regarding the OS. Android 5.0 will be an optimized OS and will run well even on devices with 512 MB of RAM."
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I thought our Nexus S only have 384 MB of RAM?
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I thought our Nexus S only have 384 MB of RAM?
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I think the remaining ram to 512 is reserved for GPU or something like that.
Guys
As great as the Nexus S is\was getting 4.3/5.0 will be a bonus. It is probably time to move on.
This phone has problems with Android 4.2.2 so No!!!! Won't happen Android 4.1.2 is best for our device & I think it's the best Jellybean version out of all the others!
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a CM support would be fine
Killasmoke said:
This phone has problems with Android 4.2.2 so No!!!! Won't happen Android 4.1.2 is best for our device & I think it's the best Jellybean version out of all the others!
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Rasbeanjelly 4.2.2 is better from 4.1.2 on my nexus
Killasmoke said:
This phone has problems with Android 4.2.2 so No!!!! Won't happen Android 4.1.2 is best for our device & I think it's the best Jellybean version out of all the others!
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Try temple run 2 on stock android 4.1.2. On my device it's so laggy it's not playable anymore. Before your first turn you're dead.
ej8989 said:
Try temple run 2 on stock android 4.1.2. On my device it's so laggy it's not playable anymore. Before your first turn you're dead.
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I dont have problems with playing Temple Run 2 on either versions.
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Temple run 2 is unplayable without a bigmem kernel. Its completely playable on stock 4.1.2 ROM but not with stock kernel.
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Temple run 2 is unplayable without a bigmem kernel. Its completely playable on stock 4.1.2 ROM but not with stock kernel.
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Maybe you have a lot of applications running on background. You should use greenify for that. TR2 needs about 100MB of free ram to run.
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I dont have problems with playing Temple Run 2 on either versions.
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I'm talking pure android stock. No root/custom whatsoever.

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