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Alright people, it is time for me to get on my soapbox here, and say a few words to the community. The Wizard forums are getting really overloaded with ROM updating, bootloader, bricked Wizard threads etc, and it has got to stop.
It seems that every time I turn around, another member has posted something along the lines of:
Title=HALPZ!!!11! [email protected] ARE BRICKZORED!!!
And then in the post=I bricked my Wizard cuz I don no if it iz a G3 or G4 am using Vista PLEASE HELPS ME!
Then 20 minutes later they will post again;
What no one wantz to helps me? PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now, I know that this cannot be fixed, there will always be people that are not going to take the time to read for a few moments, but I ask you other forums members/mods/admins etc who frequent the Wizard boards, PLEASE DO NOT FEED THESE TROLLS! I have started to just provide links to the Wiki, or tell people to search for their answer instead of answering them. And before someone says it, I know that new users are the lifeblood and purpose of XDA-Developers, but this is just ridiculous.
Please take my words as constructive, not destructive people...anyone else feel the same way?
Interesant.....
Very interesant... but
I dont know when this community open his hard disks to the whole world and even if the principal threads are full of pages they started with similar problem that they have and post a new thread with this help lines... hahaha and in CAPS.
When my wizard was bricked (not bricked cause i just need to read a little more on wiki!) i think In that Goda Damn full threads no body's will answer me the fast I need to recover my phone... why? cause I saw that the answers was in 2 days even if I was conected a lot it dont even have a fast answer...
I know now that every stupid thing i did has a purpouse that is answer to the new Threads telling them that do a search... an extensive search and provide all the info that helps everybody to solve the problems.
Ashasaur I dont think erasing the new threads without feeding will imports but I think That mods can consider a number of posts to a reasonal answer... first of all redirect to the right posted and sticky but thats not all the clearly solved trouble cause we are very good... i think real good to send people to the hell!!! no no no to the hell not... mmm to the new threads... but why not personaly do the answer fully... saying go to this link... we will try to unbricks your device! but go to with him or her to that thread and talk about that to feed more the sticky info.
When that happnds and the newbie goes to there to talk to you call to a Mod ( in this case i think Mr Noonski is the one that most stay in wizard forum) to erase or block the thread....
We need to understand that this panic mode makes us, do, stupid things even if we already does it... Even if Im not a wizard User i saw the thread HEY YALL FILL YOUR SIGNATURE WITH YOUR INFO... higly ignored and thats just craps the good meaning of that thread.
The Purpouse of this Great and fully Community is to embrace new members with knowin answers to solve thir problems but making them read a lot and teach them a culture of read and be more organisated.
If I have write some words incorrectly... my appoligies, Im mexican and the english is not my natural language. Thanks for all the effort to the genious in this Forum I learn a lot and Im still learning cause even if I have hundreds of post... doesnt means i have the important to change somethings here. But the all of us effort makes, begans, and ends, when more newbies come with their new devices.
Honestly... + Que PPC
P.D.
Hey Ashasaur hopefully a new culture for this WEB community.
Keep the good work... this will gonna makes us think a little more, read a little more and ask a little more... I mean All Newbies, Members, Seniors, and Mods.
Dear All,
I have seen this in the about xda forum. But it appears that most of the Gene users don't read any other thread apart from the Gene upgarding etc. forum.
You might want to read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=539407.
Its high time you take care of your chefs, trust me if you don't, the only one to lose will be you not the chef(s).
I can tell two instances:
1. krazy had a really bad personal problem (his accomodation), but most did not read it or did not care to worry about it, instead continued their demands.
2. ankit360 has not recieved a single donation till date! can you believe it.
I do not say that donating is mandatory, but c'mon guys, you are getting so many great stuffs from the chefs / geeks in this forum.
To be blunt with you, where is the gratitude????
[And if you say you can't afford, c'mon - you are not using a Nokia 1110i, you are using a 10K mobile]
Sorry if I sound rude.
Dear Addicted, i really feel for you man in my heart. You think so much about us, and this forum and its members in general. I am glad we have you in this forum
ANKIT AND SUMIT deserves it!!
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Dear Addicted, i really feel for you man in my heart. You think so much about us, and this forum and its members in general. I am glad we have you in this forum
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And I am lucky to have you .
Otherwise I would have sold my Gene and gone to some other forum (HTC of course).
@deathgame:
And so does each and every fab members of this forum, always remember:
1. Ramersonw first got us hooked to cooking and created the method for determining old / new Gene.
2. vaibhav created an automatic gene verifier (poor guy, doesn't even get thank you's !!!).
3. BesFen: Made cooking a walk in the park.
4. Zelalat: He was the one who ported a M2D ROM for new Gene (If I am not wrong). Lomlom was the cooker of the original.
[WOW MY HISTORY IS GOOD ]
And of course guys like you, karan and all the cooks, who has kept this forum one of the most happening device forum around.
Hope users start appreciating your efforts rather than demanding .
We should definitely take care of our chefs and one more thing we should also take care of olipro & orefkov bcs its because of them all the fun we are having nowadays.....Sumit, Ankit, Ramersonv, Basha, Lomlom, A2X, Nirvana, Bepe....(Sorry if i forgot someone) they all have done a remarkable job in GENE section....
BTW 1 day while chatting with Sumit I offered him technical support for his Pc/ Lappy as i m a hardware eng.
I m gonna donate Sumit N Ankit and wish to donate to olipro too but unfortunately i don hv a credit card
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We should definitely take care of our chefs and one more thing we should also take care of olipro & orefkov bcs its because of them all the fun we are having nowadays.....Sumit, Ankit, Ramersonv, Basha, Lomlom, A2X, Nirvana, Bepe....(Sorry if i forgot someone) they all have done a remarkable job in GENE section....
BTW 1 day while chatting with Sumit I offered him technical support for his Pc/ Lappy as i m a hardware eng.
I m gonna donate Sumit N Ankit and wish to donate to olipro too but unfortunately i don hv a credit card
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Thtat's really great (but I honestly don't think that I should be mentioned with the pple you have named).
I also wanted to donate to ramersonw and to be frank, before every one to xda, but I also don't have a credit card.
I would request all pple who care about this forum to bump up this thread once in a while. As you can see, I do not have my TD yet (and hence visiting this forum regularly), but once I got it, my visits will ultimately be next to nil.
Thank you,
You folks are really fabulous, and that include YOU!
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To be blunt, do you notice how many pple feel like us (even in the original thread).
BTW @everyone, you do not need to donate to show your appreciation. A praise, being less demanding is good enough (perhaps). Understand that these guys have a personal and professional life and they honestly don't OWE US ANYTHING. They are sharing their knowledge and creations with us because they are generous enough to do so. So appreciate it and ACKNOWLEDGE it.
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i m realy thanks Ramersonv who create first kitchen for new gene BTW where is Ramersonv nowadays ? I really wish to donate money to some ppl but don't have much money. if anybody reference any job for system administration in mumbai let me know its help me a lot rather then donating money .
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ankit360 said:
vaibhav_batra_the_techguy said:
i m realy thanks Ramersonv who create first kitchen for new gene BTW where is Ramersonv nowadays ? I really wish to donate money to some ppl but don't have much money. if anybody reference any job for system administration in mumbai let me know its help me a lot rather then donating money .
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Hey buddy, please please please send your cv to haree. He is right now running a placement agency. And since he was in Gene once, I KNOW he appreciates your contribution.
. Do let me know whether you contacted him or not.
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I'm still here (with a less contribution, I know.). Almost every day I see the forum and sometimes post something(all PMs that I receive I respond soon or later). Since the beginning of the year I have made many trips (to work) and have little time at home (my wife hates it.) to cook and try new things. Yet I'm still here in the forum.
BTW there should be THANK YOU button
@All the chefs
Folks, have you checked this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=557152
I don't know if I'm supposed to to post this thread here , but just don't know where to . It is more dedicated to developers forum , but I'm not allowed to post there ( and not sure should be - I'm not e dev and it is stupid to post smth like : "U r so great , keep on .....)
I'll be glad to see a little collaboration of our developers . BlaY0 is great dev , so is Ogo2 and Ali Ba , not to forget whitetigerdk , TGF and few others . But if u help each other , it'll be better .
Ogo2 is trying to do something very nice and interesting , but he is alone in this . At the very beginning he asked for help . But all he gets is : " It's not that difficult but you have to know what you are doing." - a statement which is sounds more like : " You cannot do it buddy , forget it ". AFAIK Ogo2 did a lot . And such a words could be posted only from a developer who can REALLY fix the WI-FI issue , and who REALLY do something about it .
I hold BlaY0 in high esteem ( in fact I'm using his B.0.8 ROM ) , but he sounds like he become jealous of not being the first to develop Sense 2.1 . I don't want to offend him , but first he had a lot of work with B.0.8 , well it's done ; latter there were a holidays - they past . Now what should it be ???
Bonesy is absolutely right - he isn't obligated to do it .This isn't collaboration for me
I'm not offended and I already explained why I'm not really interested in that particular project at the moment. Besides that I also have a job and a family which I tend to spend most of my time with.
And you are wrong if you think there's no collaboration among us... I am always available for technical questions via PM and I always respond to them. I also got response from other devs (for instance Ali Ba) whenever needed.
Sent from my HTC Legend
BlaY0 said:
I'm not offended and I already explained why I'm not really interested in that particular project at the moment. Besides that I also have a job and a family which I tend to spend most of my time with.
And you are wrong if you think there's no collaboration among us... I am always available for technical questions via PM and I always respond to them. I also got response from other devs (for instance Ali Ba) whenever needed.
Sent from my HTC Legend
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I'm glad hearing this and I read your replay . But I support @alexhtclegend for that you could give some advices to someone who could play with his Legend .
By the way you owe nothing to any of us .
And since you explained him what to be done , let's hope it will help
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Well , thanks . Today I see u really like to help . Let's hope someone can manage it ( 'cause I don't have a clue what were you talking about )
Sorry if this is completely irrelevant in every way shape and form, but I'm from a community of people who own Samsung Wave smart phones who would really like to own an Android port due to the horrendous support for Bada by Samsung and complete and total lack of applications.
We have a working Froyo 2.2 port on the device which many have copied to their phones with success. A few developers have worked on it, Olek_k from XDA was working on it, passed it over to Rebellos. However, we currently have no working modem, camera or battery sensor and they are having trouble with Kernel development. Rebellos says that he thinks he's collected enough info to write a modem driver, but he is having problems with the kernel and the project has stalled. We've seen the amazing progress that has been made with this project, being passed down from person to person and there is a huge community of people who would like to experience android on their Bada handsets. I am no developer myself and a lot of us aren't, but the project has stalled and it'd be a real shame for so much progress to be lost. Do you know of anyone or are you yourself a developer of HD2 Android? All of us at badaforums.net and those in the Bada section at XDA are eager to see progress on the project. We do have developers, but they need aid in an area that they do not know well.
Please don't take this as a demanding request, I'm simply asking if you know of anyone who could help compile an android kernel (I'm not sure of the detail you'd have to ask the developers themselves) with the help of the current devs. We'd be hugely greatful if you could co-operate and help us out, because I know many who would absolutely adore android on their crippled Wave smartphones.
I sent a message similar to this to the admin of the Android ROMs site (http://android.hd2roms.com/) to see if they had any ideas about someone who could help. If you didn't know already, the wave is only available outside of the US, I don't know if anyone in the US can help with the development without the phone, you'd have to ask Rebellos or one of the other devs from the topic.
Below are some links where the discussions are;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118436&page=260
http://www.badaforums.net/forums/android-porting/porting-android-s8500-wave-t5464.html
I am a noob at XDA and I haven't tried the port myself as of yet, but I love my Wave and no one has made the jump to reach to the awesome HD2 porting community yet, so I thought I'd try.
Please contact me in this topic, via PM, or contact Rebellos or any of the other developers in the topic if you, or someone you know can help out.
Thanks very much, again, sorry if this is in the wrong place.
- Ross
+1 as a HD2 and Wave user. Help us please!
Damn, no one else has noticed the post :/
Oh well, I'll be patient and just hope that people aren't ignoring the post lol.
Pins, do you know of someone who was at the head of the project? I'm pretty clueless, I'll do some digging.
They will, just give them time.
You might want to consider getting the XDA admin's incharge of the news, to publish this, since this is really going to go un-noticed by the majority of developers. Some good might come out of it. All the best. I remembered waiting (and I am sure many other HD2 users too) for the Android port and then WP7 port for HD2... it seemed like a long wait, but eventually it is done
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They will, just give them time.
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Yeah man, thanks. I was just being impatient. Really don't want to come off as an arsehole because a lot of people in the bada-android forum got pissed due to trolls, when there are, infact a lot of people who are nice and genuine who are eager to see the port.
And I will have a look to see if I can do that erlern, but do you think they will really listen to someone with like, under 10 posts? xD I mean, they might, but however funny that noob video was, they don't seem to be particularly keen on them. We'll see.
erlern is right maybe its better to write the admins at news
Hi rayze! Erlern is right come to think of it, the admins handling the news section can post about this on the front page.
Also on the title of the post amend it to this "Help needed to build drivers into kernel" then maybe the developers of this thread may pay more attention too.
Also post this on the android development thread of HD2 since this is the Q&A section which has more to do with everyday use of the hd2.
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Hi rayze! Erlern is right come to think of it, the admins handling the news section can post about this on the front page.
Also on the title of the post amend it to this "Help needed to build drivers into kernel" then maybe the developers of this thread may pay more attention too.
Also post this on the android development thread of HD2 since this is the Q&A section which has more to do with everyday use of the hd2.
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Advice taken my friend, will do all of that.
Have sent a request for the appeal to be posted in the news.
the ball seems to be rolling again :-D
sikodemon said:
the ball seems to be rolling again :-D
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Well someone needed to try to get people's attention
No one else seemed to bother doing it, so I thought, why not. Don't think I've posted in HD2 main yet, but might have. Struggling to remember really.
Oh yeah, no I didn't because I need more posts xD I only have 7 lol.
Unfortunately us Wave modders are probably one of the smallest communities in this entire forum, we might get noticed, but it's getting people to help that will be the highest hurdle. It's a shame really, you'd expect many more people to buy this phone when you can pick it up now at cpw for £99.
I really respect how those developers devote so much time on making better software for our phones, and in most cases they just want a thank you at the end.
I am so happy to see this at the front page of XDA!
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/help-get-android-fully-working-on-samsungs-bada-devices/
Really hope to see Android on Waves! Glad to have contributed in a small way Keep the faith guys!
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I am so happy to see this at the front page of XDA!
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/help-get-android-fully-working-on-samsungs-bada-devices/
Really hope to see Android on Waves! Glad to have contributed in a small way Keep the faith guys!
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Thanks for telling me man!
Spreading the news at Badaforums!
I will also now make a post in the main HD2 development section.
Let me start the thread by a warm greetings. Happy New Year Everyone.
Its been a very great year for X8 owners. Here are some review last 2011
WHAT WE HAD
Fully Working Froyo
Fully Working Gingerbread
Unlocked Bootloader
Real Dual Touch
Overclocked
Undervolt
Custom Kernels
etc..
Not to mention also there's a lot of new potential developers came and go.
WHAT WE LOST
Racth
TeamXperia
Doixanh
Indonesian Devs
etc..
WHAT IS LEFT
TROLLS
Some promising DEV's
WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF X8
Maybe we can already foresee what will happened here if we dont start changing our bad attitude that discourages devs.
Its quite sad that we had a reverse progress rather than we go up and be stronger, we fall down because of our selfishness.
What will be your resolution for this year? Hope not to troll more.
Good luck and Have fun to those who are new and old in the Community.
I totally agree. This community became already a FLAMMING ZONE.
70% are just flamming post only 30% are just useful. At the end of the year people mess this community up.
What happened with dx? been a while since his last update on gdx, i kinda miss him
The best thing we can do is to report troll comments on the forums so that the mods and adms can delete the replys and make this place a more peaceful one, and with some luck, the devs will encourage to continue developing X8!
Goodbye
PD: Sorry for my bad english.
Hes out of the scene due to stupid and demanding peoples here.
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Hes out of the scene due to stupid and demanding peoples here.
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dont start a war mike.
Lol I just answered the above question. Why do you have a better answers and explanation why DX quit?
theres also our great nAa who is still in development of our X8
FXP never leave us,,look at they github,they still update they project for x8.
maybe our "true" devs just silent,and we know 'why' they keep silent.
and look at development thread,to much rom with no dev there,just theming and change launcher people make new thread ^_^ . i'm not say DONT,but we must think; what we have done to post in "DEVELOPMENT"?
hope this year our comunnity will be better and better.
sorry for my poor english.
+1 deedii
I hope everybody is back n developing again specially CM9 for mdpi x8.
hoping in a week there's a good news about it.
but life goes on..maybe they don't have x8 anymore.. but I hope for the best.
goodluck for the new dev here.. user too.
I'm feeling so lucky being around here on early stage of development till last year.
now something weird is going on in dev sec..:? idk
and last, maybe its kinda too late..
happy new year to you all.
(sorry for my English)
Yes,
I love my X8, it is my best partner,
Even my gf envy's it,
Now when see what all is happening on the forum, really hurts,
Let encourage devs to do their best.
Forget to say ROMS threads whit no Links!
And for 2012 promisses list:
-ICS on X8!
-Trolls!
-New Devs shutting up the trolls!
-More Trolls!
-And unfortunatelly for me,a new Phone...I will miss X8 and this great comunity,although the Spammers,people here are incredible!
The X8 community isn't what it used to be anymore. Our forums are slowly decaying. At the time I signed up, there was a flame of so much interest and willingness to help others. Truthfully, I can't see that flame anymore. This place has been filled up with trolls and many useless post. I myself, was eager to learn and help others when I was able to but I'm not that active anymore. I have grown tired of this
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The X8 community isn't what it used to be anymore. Our forums are slowly decaying. At the time I signed up, there was a flame of so much interest and willingness to help others. Truthfully, I can't see that flame anymore. This place has been filled up with trolls and many useless post. I myself, was eager to learn and help others when I was able to but I'm not that active anymore. I have grown tired of this
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true,am afraid soon thd community will run out of devs too,if this kinda negative atmosophere goes on,
ur rite that earlier there was willingness to help,maybe even learn and teach,but now from wat i see is only flame throwing at each other