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Trouble connecting using AT&T sim

When I purchased this I was told that the device would work with a voice and data sim. Just that you wanted to be careful with how much data you might use. I have a AT&T sim with a corporate voice plan and unlimited data for a pda phone. I am not currently in a 3G market, but it is coming online soon, and can't seem to get connected with that sim. I have put in a data only sim from AT&T that we have but it is our emergency backup sim/card for our pos computers in our stores. I don't really want to have to purchase another $60 a month account to have a seperate sim as well as my $40 a month data plan on my pda phone, which I am not willing to give that up either. I would bump up my pda plan to $60 a month with voice if it would work that way but I just don't want to pay a $100 a month to have two seperate devices.
Basically when I am in town I can use the sim out of our back up cellular router but when I go out of town or on vacation I have to leave it behind and would like the option of putting my sim in the Shift and using that as needed.
Any ideas.
One last note. The weather will update with my sim but that is it. No email and no vista connectivity. It does say that it is connected but when I fire up explorer it beeps a bunch of times and then the red X goes infront of the network connection and it fails to load anything.

x5-rwk said:
When I purchased this I was told that the device would work with a voice and data sim. Just that you wanted to be careful with how much data you might use. I have a AT&T sim with a corporate voice plan and unlimited data for a pda phone. I am not currently in a 3G market, but it is coming online soon, and can't seem to get connected with that sim. I have put in a data only sim from AT&T that we have but it is our emergency backup sim/card for our pos computers in our stores. I don't really want to have to purchase another $60 a month account to have a seperate sim as well as my $40 a month data plan on my pda phone, which I am not willing to give that up either. I would bump up my pda plan to $60 a month with voice if it would work that way but I just don't want to pay a $100 a month to have two seperate devices.
Basically when I am in town I can use the sim out of our back up cellular router but when I go out of town or on vacation I have to leave it behind and would like the option of putting my sim in the Shift and using that as needed.
Any ideas.
One last note. The weather will update with my sim but that is it. No email and no vista connectivity. It does say that it is connected but when I fire up explorer it beeps a bunch of times and then the red X goes infront of the network connection and it fails to load anything.
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Can you try to setup a proxy on the WM site?
Maybe that will help you

set up new connection
i had the same problem. htc support solved it. you need to set up a new connection in snapvue. vista only recognizes a MEdia Net connection. go to settings in snapvue, open connections, add new modem connection, select media net with default settings, save
when you open vista the sim will be working for a connection

mine is working fine in winmo and vista with isp.cingular.com not media net, ill be using no proxies over here

Everyone thank you for all your suggestions. I should be able to do it with these ideas. I should have thought of some of these myself. Thanks again
Update: It worked, thanks a lot. I have not had to do this since I bought my imate K-Jam at over two years ago. Thanks again one more time!!!!

Disabling mobile data (EDGE, 3G) when switching ROMs?

Here's the deal: I have no data plan, and every time I flash a new ROM data is automatically enabled. I always skip google registration so I can do it later of over wifi, but still the 3G icon shows in and outgoing traffic. This means I get shafted out of a couple of quid every time I flash a ROM. I always delete the APNs before flash a new ROM, but they always fudging come back >.< Anyone know a way to stop this from happening?

Can't you just take out your sim card?

The phone won't boot without a SIM card AFAIK.

I haven't got around to rooting and ROMing yet, but mine boots fine without a sim card, can still use over wifi etc.
Even if it didn't you can send off for free ones.

Ah, last time I tried to boot without a SIM was on 1.1, not 1.5/cupcake. Maybe they removed the restriction..thanks

Yea that is basically the only way to stop it from connecting. I imagine when you wipe and flash a new rom all the settings change back to default. Only other thing I can think of is get a prepaid sim to use for setup but that is a costly hassle.

crpercodani said:
Yea that is basically the only way to stop it from connecting. I imagine when you wipe and flash a new rom all the settings change back to default. Only other thing I can think of is get a prepaid sim to use for setup but that is a costly hassle.
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I just don't see how it's acquiring after a wipe. I didn't have my APN settings until I went to Turkey and the phone was in roaming mode. Before that I entered them myself and they went away after a wipe. Oh well, the phone does boot without a sim, I'll just do that. Thanks for your help everyone.

crpercodani said:
Only other thing I can think of is get a prepaid sim to use for setup but that is a costly hassle.
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How is it costly if you don't need credit.
O2: Free
Vodafone: Free
T-mobile: Free
Orange: £0.97
Virgin: Free (these were 97p when I ordered one a couple of weeks ago )
Tesco: Free
Three: free
Edit: Added Three, since I'd listed the others, the 3 offer is weird, they send you 2 sim cards which get free calls and texts between them!

AdamPI said:
How is it costly if you don't need credit.
O2: Free
Vodafone: Free
T-mobile: Free
Orange: £0.97
Virgin: Free (these were 97p when I ordered one a couple of weeks ago )
Tesco: Free
Three: free
Edit: Added Three, since I'd listed the others, the 3 offer is weird, they send you 2 sim cards which get free calls and texts between them!
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Well I was speaking from what I know about us carriers, they all charge $ here for prepaid sim's here. But I wish it was like that here.

there is a method to disable the lock screen from "no sim card" with adb. You should try that, its very handy

how to activate Mytouch 3G without a data plan, even a sim card

I am about to purchase a Mytouch but according to what I have heard, you can't go pass the welcome screen without a data plan. Is that correct ? If it isn't, can anyone tell me how to activate it via Wifi using ADB like the process for G1 ?
Thanks a lot

I had the same problem when i first got my phone because i bought it on craigslist (no contract). If you know anyone that has Tmobile with a data plan u can use their sim card to activate your phone. As long as you get past signing in with google you should be good. Please Root your phone in future to avoid having this problem again.

young3g said:
I had the same problem when i first got my phone because i bought it on craigslist (no contract). If you know anyone that has Tmobile with a data plan u can use their sim card to activate your phone. As long as you get past signing in with google you should be good. Please Root your phone in future to avoid having this problem again.
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Thanks for the reply, I thought nobody would answer this ! I knew this, but what I am asking is: How to activate it via adb or something that can be done on G1.
Thanks in advance

te_quiero_forever_girl said:
Thanks for the reply, I thought nobody would answer this ! I knew this, but what I am asking is: How to activate it via adb or something that can be done on G1.
Thanks in advance
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Have you tried following the steps outlined here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452316
What I gathered from that tutorial is that the 'unlocking' is simply a record added to a database in the phone, which you can get around if you root the phone and manually add it yourself. Haven't tried this though.

te_quiero_forever_girl said:
Thanks for the reply, I thought nobody would answer this ! I knew this, but what I am asking is: How to activate it via adb or something that can be done on G1.
Thanks in advance
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Check out this thread if your'e still having trouble. There is a software for rooting your phone. (Relentless rooter plus).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556200

Thanks guys, I really appreciate your replies ! The methods u guys offered are pretty much how to root a magic, means that I must have my phone activated first,lol
Thanks again

First, I do not know how to active the G2 with a SIM, or via Wifi rather than via APN. (I'm trying to do the same thing myself at this time, and still seeking the solution).
BUT... I have found a baby step. I see that when you turn on the phone, it comes up to a starter screen which shows you the green Android, and the two selections, Emergency Dial, and, Change Language. I find that if I click on the "MENU" button, it pops up a tab at the bottom of the screen that says APN. This allows me to change the APN settings. Worthless without SOME data plan, but, it might be helpful to someone trying to use an alternate provider's APN settings (along with a SIM sled / flexible PCB (sold on several sites) behind the SIM to 'unlock' use with an alternative carrier, such as AT&T - easier to borrow an iPhone SIM with a Data plan, as there are more of them). Just a thought.
Just a note, I have already changed my phone from "Donut" to "CupCake", and my goal is to go to "Root". My current HBoot is 1.33.0006 (my phone has the 32B motherboard).

i got past the welcome screen without a data plan. We have 3 mt3g in my house and we all got past the welcome screen.

I just got past the activation screen, but without any magic. The version of firmware I have on my phone (HBOOT-1.33.0006) is likely newer than the one which allowed you to skip authentication without a data plan... I suspect this maneuver / inconvenience was added to the later versions of the firmware for exactly what it tried to require of me - to verify that I am a supposedly new customer, or an existing customer with a 3G data plan.
I was able to activate the phone the first try using my TMobile SIM which has a 5.99 TMobile Web (aka T-Zones) plan on it. That SIM worked for about 1 hour with data access, then MAGICally, the data stopped working, though the phone still worked as a phone.
I read up, and discovered this likely had something to do with the Donut / Cupcake installed on the phone by TMobile. I feel that during the one hour working time, the phone somehow auto-updated something to recognize the level of my SIM / data plan was too low.
Regardless.... I borrowed a co-worker's TMobile SIM - he had NO DATA PLAN... It allowed me to authenticate the G2 via Edge / GPRS / HSDPA. I glean from this that upon receiving an UNKNOWN, but active TMobile SIM card, the phone somehow allows that SIM access to data long enough to activate the phone. But for a SIM the phone has seen before and disabled, the disabled SIM remains disabled for data.
Next step... Root the phone, and swap out the ROM to something that doesn't lock me into requiring another activation via Gmail account (I hear that Hero may be a good ROM...). Crossing my fingers...

NEED HELP - i was reading above hoping that someone would ahve the same issue as me or well to be specific my gf.
She just got a mytouch a few days ago and got it to activate fine and all without having a data plan at all. I tried using her phone and all too and it worked perfectly although today whenever she tries to make a phone call it routes her to tmobile and she can only receive texts and not send them.

gKNOWS said:
NEED HELP - i was reading above hoping that someone would ahve the same issue as me or well to be specific my gf.
She just got a mytouch a few days ago and got it to activate fine and all without having a data plan at all. I tried using her phone and all too and it worked perfectly although today whenever she tries to make a phone call it routes her to tmobile and she can only receive texts and not send them.
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Did she pay her cell phone bill?

hello to everyone. I live in Brazil and I am having the same problem. My friend bought a htc mytouch 3g in the United States. Now when I turn it on it is asking activation system. How can I do now? I am in Brazil. Look how that is the mytouch trying to turn it on.
http://www.youtube.com/maicoalvim#p/a/u/0/sp_x74-ptRA
Thanks!
Maico

There is in fact no way to activate your plan without a plan. What I did was spend $60 for a single month of the plan, activate the phone, and then cancel it, and it worked fine.
However, if you can find some way to get Cyanogen on your phone, (you can't use the 1-click root application and install the cyanogen recovery image, though without having access to the phone), the newest Cyanogen has a little button to bypass the stupid activation mode, so you'll never need a plan again.
Trust me, it took me 3 months of trying to get it working without a plan.
Edit: Oh, actually if you have a friend with a plan that has a t-mobile phone with internet access (only certain ones work, though, not the sidewinder) you can steal their sim card for a few second and activate it that way.

google registration

I picked up a g2(craigslist) bc I'm getting tired of my kaiser(unlocked). I have Tmo data plan and all. I put my sim card in and get to the google registration. I have a gmail email. The phone just says unable to connect to servers. I have tried the "touch the 4 corners" with no success. I have called Tmo customer service and asked if there was anything that I needed to add to my plan to use the g2. He said I'm good to go and all I have to do is put my sim in. So what gives? Do I need to take it to a store?
Update. I have used a friend's sim card and now have registered my google email. We have reinstalled my sim card and are in the process of rooting and installing a rom. Hopefully everything works.
Laramie

Data Plans on T-Mobile...
There are two different data plans on T-Mobile, though there's no difference in cost. One is for smartphones (Windows Mobile, iPhone, etc.) and the other is for Android phones. I learned this when I switched to the MT3G... data worked for a bit, then stopped and I got a message saying that my plan must be upgraded to use this feature on my device.
If you get no data connectivity, call tech support at T-Mobile and tell them you have an Android phone... my data was back in business within 15 minutes.
Good luck

Imagio Without Data Plan on VZW

Hey All:
Looking to upgrade from xv6900 (Touch) to Imagio; and wanted to know if there is anyway to connect an unlocked Imagio without paying for the data plan on VZW. I love VZW service and signal and donmt want to get rid of them. Any insight is helpful thanks.

devildog0729 said:
Hey All:
Looking to upgrade from xv6900 (Touch) to Imagio; and wanted to know if there is anyway to connect an unlocked Imagio without paying for the data plan on VZW. I love VZW service and signal and donmt want to get rid of them. Any insight is helpful thanks.
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You might try going to Verizon's website and manually switching your phone through your account settings. If you don't have an account there, you'll have to register and link it to your Verizon billing account. To switch the phone manually on the website, you just need to enter the new phone's MEID, which is found beneath the battery. I can't guarantee that will work if the two phones' features are a lot different, but it's worth a shot. Worst thing that happens is it doesn't work.

robin24k
I've looked into this issue a lot, and there is no way to legally get around the mandatory data plan. What I ended up doing is upgrading to an Imagio through Verizon and bought a new Motorola W755 on Ebay. When I got the Imagio, I activated it for a minute to accept the terms of the contract, then had the rep credit back the prorated data charges.
Now, I'm using the W755 as a phone and the Imagio as a PDA. I'm still carrying two devices, but it's much lighter than the Treo 755p and Treo Pro combo I had been doing before.