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[Q] Odin vs. One Click Recovery

To return to stock I was wondering if it was better to use odin or the One Click Recovery.
Do they both do the same thing?
Is one better than the other?
Thanks

Odin is only true way to go back to stock

rjmjr69 said:
Odin is only true way to go back to stock
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I know odin completely wipes everything... if i just wanted to flash a new rom and kernel would that still be the way to go?

Maadj said:
I know odin completely wipes everything... if i just wanted to flash a new rom and kernel would that still be the way to go?
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You need Recovery to change your Roms. Odin won't do that. If you looking to flash Roms, One Click by noobnl. If you wanna go back to Factory. Odin.

so then in all the threads when they say wipe everything they mean the clockwork recovery stuff. not a system wipe

Simple explination: When they say wipe, they mean inside of clockwork recovery you choose the option to wipe the cache, it would be like formatting a hard drive before you install a new windows os, u want to make sure all the old files and disk errors are gone. Same thing here, the cache is where the data/settings are stored.
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awesome guys.. thanks for all your help

Not to be mean but no cache does not wipe your data. It's the equivalent to clearing cache on your browser. When a rom thread calls for a wipe they mean wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, and go to advanced wipe dalvik cache.
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I don't know about the whole format thing... guess you look at it that way. It only clears a part, and there's a few of those. But when you wipe your clearing all your data and setting. Each rom is built different. So in some cases you'll need to wipe to make sure nothing from the previous messes you up. The OP (thread starter) of the rom will say when to wipe. Should always wipe between roms. Cool thing is, you can advance restore your stuff back. ; ) or Titanium Backup. But something will alway catch you off guard or you'll forget. So have multi ways of backup. In clockwork you will see back up (Nand Backup as they call it), this backs everything up, if you mess up you can always go back like it was with restore. Have fun and don't let it piss you off.
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With respect a454nova it should be clearer than that. If a rom says to wipe, the clockwork recovery probably should not be used to restore data because the ROM poster is probably putting something in data along with changing the system files. Titanium can be used judiciously to restore data files but only with full knowledge of what the OP has put in the data directory. Best practice is to use listables and download everything new then restore only items that could not be downloaded from the market

How to i change to other ROM?

Currently using HTC HD 2 Andriod rom running on nand,
Assuming Ive installed andriod with clockwork recovery and etc, and I would like change my ROM to other versions, how can I do it?
Do I need to delete the current Andriod Rom? and how do i do it? thanks!

Go to Clockwork Recovery.
If your coming from another rom (Miui -> CM7, Sense -> Stock, or any of that matter), wipe cache recommended 3 times, advanced -> Dalvik Cache. When your coming from another rom, it's highly recommended to wipe data too.
If your coming from the same rom (CM7 -> CM7) and want to KEEP your data, then simply wiping cache and Dalvik cache is enough.
To flash a new rom, choose "apply zip from sd card" -> "choose zip from sd card" and simply select the .zip file.
You don't need to delete or anything, Clockwork should overwrite it and your cache should be cleared.

I always do a Nandroid backup using backup and restore in CWM and then do a full wipe of all the partitions data, system, boot, cache, and sd-ext. Then I go to advanced in CWM and woe my Delvik cache, then flash my ROM using install zip from sdcard. When my ROM is done I go to backup and restore and select advanced restore and restore my data and my cache from my Nandroid backup then boot my HD2. I never once have had a issue with any new ROM or my information and settings not being there. You do not want to restore boot or system cause boot is the kernel of your ROM and system is the ROM itself. So if you restored them you still havecthe same ROM.

check ROM thread / instructions, there are a lot of information.
sometimes you need to follow exactly as it says.
cheers

I am switching over from wp7 to an android. do I need to install a wp 6.5 first or can I install go ahead and switch over straigh from wp7?

yahya.haqiqi said:
I am switching over from wp7 to an android. do I need to install a wp 6.5 first or can I install go ahead and switch over straigh from wp7?
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I recommend running a Task 29cand then reflashing MAGLDR and then flash CWM using USB Flasher in MAGLDR then flash your ROM using CWM. Make sure to reformat your SD card before booting up your Android. Easiest way of doing this is to stick your SD card in a adaptor and then into a digital camera then format it with the camera as this will take the funky format that WP7 does to it off. Then use a USB card reader to format it using Fat 32.

just flash android using instructions from your ROM thread.
cheers

yahya.haqiqi said:
I am switching over from wp7 to an android. do I need to install a wp 6.5 first or can I install go ahead and switch over straigh from wp7?
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Ha I figured I had given you way over kill instructions lol. Go to the link below and try the steps in this guide I just found in the HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A General section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039655

T-Macgnolia said:
Ha I figured I had given you way over kill instructions lol. Go to the link below and try the steps in this guide I just found in the HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A General section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039655
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Thanks man that was super helpful

[Q] Newbie questions (don't kill me Im new!)

Hy there I love xda and im a new user to xda nexus forum
With excelent guides I learnt how to root unlock and install custom rom (quite easy let it down into your internal storage and install from zip)
but I have few questions..
When I tried to wipe data and cache I accidentally did factory reset which ended up in no installed rom, internal storage empty and I was in custom recovery and I couldn't connect to computer, so I had to start from 0... last times I've been selecting wipe data and cache.. but I seen that in my nexus 7 some old files are still there (under a folder called 0) What should I do to make a clean install? which option of the new recovery should I choose? thankyou

mariosanoguera said:
Hy there I love xda and im a new user to xda nexus forum
With excelent guides I learnt how to root unlock and install custom rom (quite easy let it down into your internal storage and install from zip)
but I have few questions..
When I tried to wipe data and cache I accidentally did factory reset which ended up in no installed rom, internal storage empty and I was in custom recovery and I couldn't connect to computer, so I had to start from 0... last times I've been selecting wipe data and cache.. but I seen that in my nexus 7 some old files are still there (under a folder called 0) What should I do to make a clean install? which option of the new recovery should I choose? thankyou
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Use TWRP for recovery and to do a clean install wipe all data from TWRP.
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mariosanoguera said:
Hy there I love xda and im a new user to xda nexus forum
With excelent guides I learnt how to root unlock and install custom rom (quite easy let it down into your internal storage and install from zip)
but I have few questions..
When I tried to wipe data and cache I accidentally did factory reset which ended up in no installed rom, internal storage empty and I was in custom recovery and I couldn't connect to computer, so I had to start from 0... last times I've been selecting wipe data and cache.. but I seen that in my nexus 7 some old files are still there (under a folder called 0) What should I do to make a clean install? which option of the new recovery should I choose? thankyou
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I'd flash a stock recovery image onto your device available here which would restore your device completely back to stock (with your bootloader unlocked) From there I'd just re root and do what you want. However I'd personally use CWM Touch Recovery myself, but I just like that recovery more (have used it and the non-touch version for ages and on many devices)

smt8544 said:
I'd flash a stock recovery image onto your device available here which would restore your device completely back to stock (with your bootloader unlocked) From there I'd just re root and do what you want. However I'd personally use CWM Touch Recovery myself, but I just like that recovery more (have used it and the non-touch version for ages and on many devices)
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I actually have Team Win Recovery Project..
under wipe I can find
Cache
Dalvik
Factory Reset (This is the one I use.. but It leaves in my internal storage with a folder called 0 and my old data from previous roms is stored there)
System
External Storage
Int. Storage ?
Format Data (I did this and I lost everything except TWRM which I could boot at it (but I had no option to install from zip neither couldnt transferr a file through usb mount sd card didn't work))
Which one of all of this should I run before doing the install zip from sd card?

mariosanoguera said:
I actually have Team Win Recovery Project..
under wipe I can find
Cache
Dalvik
Factory Reset (This is the one I use.. but It leaves in my internal storage with a folder called 0 and my old data from previous roms is stored there)
System
External Storage
Int. Storage ?
Format Data (I did this and I lost everything except TWRM which I could boot at it (but I had no option to install from zip neither couldnt transferr a file through usb mount sd card didn't work))
Which one of all of this should I run before doing the install zip from sd card?
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I think it would be easier and cleaner if you restored back to stock before trying to re root, flash recovery, etc. If you have no important data on your device I'd go for it. If you do have important data, then try and pull it to your computer and then flash a stock image and re root etc.
I always find that in times when my device is screwing around, or I have file dregs around the place, I find it simply easier to backup important things and flash a stock image.

[Q] will my data be deleted if update my rom

hey im using paranoid android 3.56 and i want to update it to 3.60 will i loose my data if i do so and also im using nexus 4

yes u will loose
but u can take backup also

rasroh said:
yes u will loose
but u can take backup also
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how to i backup my entire phone data to my pc

sum93 said:
hey im using paranoid android 3.56 and i want to update it to 3.60 will i loose my data if i do so and also im using nexus 4
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No. You will not lose your data if you dirty flash the new rom. That means, if you just clear cache andd dalvik cache before flashing the new rom, your data wont be deleted. As you are upgrading from one version of the same rom to another, this will function as well as a clean flash.
A clean flash implies you will have to clear data too in the recovery along with cache and dalvik cache. As I said before, this isnt needed when upgrading from one version of a rom to another of the same. However, if you are shifting from one rom to a different one, clean flash is recommended.
So in conclusion, these are the steps you will have to follow to upgrade to the new rom -
1. Download the new upgraded version of the rom and gapps(if not included in the rom). Also take backups (titanium or/and nandroid as required)
2. Boot into recovery.
3. Clean cache.
4. Clean dalvik cache.
5. Flash new rom.
6. Flash gapps.(if not included in the rom)
7. Clean cache and dalvik again.
8. Reboot to system.
Thus, no data wipe required. Your data and applications will be safe.
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rasroh said:
yes u will loose
but u can take backup also
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Please do research some on the topic before giving any advice
Most roms do not ask for a clean flash when upgrading the rom, so he won't lose his data. Unless oyherwise recommended by the developer, he doesnt have to clear his data when going from one version of a rom to a new one.
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Those who help noobs go to heaven. True story.

use a backup app like titanium, helium etc

sum93 said:
hey im using paranoid android 3.56 and i want to update it to 3.60 will i loose my data if i do so and also im using nexus 4
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If you're just updating a rom you wont lose any data. All you have to do is flash the new rom on top of the old one and that's it. No need to wipe anything.

If you are upgrading from one version of a rom to a higher version of the same rom, you can usually dirty flash (flash on top without wiping) without losing any data.
Also even if you did "wipe date", it won't touch your /data/media which is basically where your /sdcard stuff lives (it will just wipe your apps, settings, etc data, so a backup via recovery is usually advised anyways).

On a related note: what does it take to wipe all of your data off your phone? Basically, to get the Nexus 4 back to brand-new, out-of-the-box fresh? Is there an easy way to do it or do you have to manually wipe different locations and if the latter, what locations must you wipe?

Johmama said:
On a related note: what does it take to wipe all of your data off your phone? Basically, to get the Nexus 4 back to brand-new, out-of-the-box fresh? Is there an easy way to do it or do you have to manually wipe different locations and if the latter, what locations must you wipe?
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If you are on a stock rom, a simple "format data" from recovery would do the trick as it would wipe /data and /data/media. As the stock rom on /system never changes unless you rooted and added stuff to it. (fastboot can do this too from the bootloader with fastboot erase userdata).
Alternatively, you can just unpack the factory firmware and flash the *.img to their respective partitions (boot[kernel], system, userdata, etc) from this list https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#occamjdq39 (PS: I wouldn't bother touching the bootloader as most people never changed it other than to maybe unlock it).
Nutshell version: All your user-specific stuff lies under /data (settings, downloaded apps, media, etc)

Back to Stock Kernel, only Nexus start screen

Hi,
I had the Faux Kernel 16 mako and wanted to get back to Stock Kernel because I wanted to update to 4.3. So I downloaded a Stock Kernel and flashed it. I didn't work it's stuck at the nexus start screen. So then I wanted to get back to 16 mako faux kernel and it's still the same.. It keeps loading. Can someone help how to fix this? Please?
Thank you so much in advance...
Does maybe the Recovery Kernel Faux help? The link is dead

easygoingx said:
Hi,
I had the Faux Kernel 16 mako and wanted to get back to Stock Kernel. So I downloaded a Stock Kernel and flashed it. I didn't work.. it's stuck at the nexus start screen .. now I wanted to get back to 16 mako faux kernel and it's still the same.. can someone help pls?
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What android version, what ROM, what did you wipe (if anything)?
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szucsgf said:
What android version, what ROM, what did you wipe (if anything)?
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I have 4.2.2 and I wiped dalvik cache..

easygoingx said:
I have 4.2.2 and I wiped dalvik cache..
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Try wipe cache, dalvik, and system (assuming you're using twrp) (you won't lose any apps or data), then reflash your ROM and gapps without flashing a kernel.
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szucsgf said:
Try wipe cache, dalvik, and system (assuming you're using twrp) (you won't lose any apps or data), then reflash your ROM and gapps without flashing a kernel.
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Yes I'm using TWRP. Do you mean in the menue 'WIPE' which says FACTORY RESET Wipes Data, Cache and Dalvik (not includiung internal storage)?
I don't lose any apps and data right?
Ok I did. But now it says I have no OS when trying to reboot. I always have used Stock Rom... where can I reflash it?

easygoingx said:
Yes I'm using TWRP. Do you mean in the menue 'WIPE' which says FACTORY RESET Wipes Data, Cache and Dalvik (not includiung internal storage)?
I don't lose any apps and data right?
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No don't do that, you will lose data.
Click on "Advanced wipe", then select only cache, dalvik cache, and system. Make sure you have a ROM zip file available in your phone's storage. Wipe those 3 things, then flash your ROM and gapps. You will not lose any apps or data. It will remove any leftover files from past kernels and you'll be back on your ROM's default kernel. I often do this when switching kernels. Not needed most of the time but I hope it helps you now.
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szucsgf said:
No don't do that, you will lose data.
Click on "Advanced wipe", then select only cache, dalvik cache, and system. Make sure you have a ROM zip file available in your phone's storage. Wipe those 3 things, then flash your ROM and gapps. You will not lose any apps or data. It will remove any leftover files from past kernels and you'll be back on your ROM's default kernel. I often do this when switching kernels. Not needed most of the time but I hope it helps you now.
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Puh, I did the Advanced Wipe without DATA. The problem is that I don't have a ROM Zip on my phones storage. Can I somehow access to the storage to put the Stock Kernel on the phone and then install it? So confusing! I am so thankful for your help.

easygoingx said:
Puh, I did the Advanced Wipe without DATA. The problem is that I don't have a ROM Zip on my phones storage. Can I somehow access to the storage to put the Stock Kernel on the phone and then install it? So confusing! I am so thankful for your help.
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Wiping System essentially wipes the Android OS off your phone (but keeps your user apps and data), so once you wipe system you need to flash a ROM to be able to boot your phone. That's why I told you to have a ROM zip available.
You can use TWRP's built in file manager (Advanced -> File manager) to see if you have one on your phone. If you don't have any, you can use a root toolkit (like mskip's) to push a ROM zip from your PC to your phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995688 or use an adb push command.

How can I make it connected with adb? I always type in adb devices but my device is not listed. I have it connected via USB to my computer but it won't find it. How can I make it visible? Should I turn it off or have it on in the bootloader or recovery? Sorry
It didn't work... it said something with insecure boot blah? Jesus.. I'm getting crazy. I just want to put the stock rom on my phone..

easygoingx said:
How can I make it connected with adb? I always type in adb devices but my device is not listed. I have it connected via USB to my computer but it won't find it. How can I make it visible? Should I turn it off or have it on in the bootloader or recovery? Sorry
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I'm sorry, I'm not skilled at ADB. I believe USB debugging needs to be enabled, which is something you enable in Android. You may need to do some Googling to figure out how to push a ROM to your phone. The command is "adb push" so try searching that.
In general I always recommend keeping a copy of a working ROM zip on your phone just in case.
The toolkit I linked you earlier has the functionality to flash the Google stock ROM. That's something you can try as well. However that may cause you to lose your apps and data.

I am very desperate. I tried so much to just push a file on my phone with toolkit or adb.. now nothing really works. Does anyone know what I can do? When I use adb and try to push it always says read-only file.. do i have to do something before? It won't push.. I just want to add the stock rom on my phone. Is there any other way?
Ok, I somehow managed to push.. but I can't find it when I want to Select Zip Install the Stock Rom.. the file was TGZ. Is there the Stock rom as ZIP too? Or why is it not there where I pushed it?