Is it possible to do this?
Why? we have pogo pins
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Why? we have pogo pins
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In that case, what product utilizes those?
(So excited just got it today)
Currently there are no docks that makes use of the pogo pins (at least, none that I have heard of, and I have been waiting for one as well). It really is disappointing when manufacturers release great devices, and then either fail or take forever to release accessories for them.
There were some leaked photos of an official dock with pogo pins ages ago, but it hasn't surfaced. Sigh.... Check it out here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/31/nexus-7-dock-and-covers-leak/
No HDMI on it either unfortunately, though that was to be expected.
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Currently there are no docks that makes use of the pogo pins (at least, none that I have heard of, and I have been waiting for one as well). It really is disappointing when manufacturers release great devices, and then either fail or take forever to release accessories for them.
There were some leaked photos of an official dock with pogo pins ages ago, but it hasn't surfaced. Sigh.... Check it out here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/31/nexus-7-dock-and-covers-leak/
No HDMI on it either unfortunately, though that was to be expected.
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Damn thats stunning. want.
Will something like this ever be possible, like connecting something to the pogo pings?
I think the issue is finding an induction coil capable of pushing the juice needed. Then you could theoretically do a mod with leads going to the 2 pogo pins. I've been following some of the pogo pin threads & apparently when you push the electricity into the charging pins It thinks it is in a dock & tries to route the sound out the other 2 pogo pins, leaving you no sound.
Since the USB charger can barely keep up with battery drain while running, the induction charging will probably only slow down the discharging. It would work if the N7 was turned off. People have had it slowly charge when powered off via the pogo pins.
Yes it can be done. I can't remember where I saw it but someone took two coils from the palm pre and installed into the Nexus 7. It took two coils to maintain 5v to charge the N7. Possibly on Google+ somewhere.
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Found it...... http://goo.gl/2gxd5
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I searched and can't seem to find any threads on this topic. Odd thing is I don't get any SOD or RR on ICS but can't use my damn tablet if its charging lol. Anyone have any input on this?
just for giggles. switch the orientation of the wall charger plug and try it.
I've seen this when charging on a plane. I assume it has something to do with the voltage being supplied.
Are you using some kind of third party charger? These have been known to cause problems on any sort of technology.
I have seen this on my wifes tf once before, never on mine or my spare...
But with 50% of my micro USB cables it will happen on my infuse... Most frequently while charging in the car. The issue seemed to be a combination of crappy cables and crappy chargers and heat... If my phone was hot it was far more likely to occur than if it was cold. I haven't charged my phone via a plug on months though, I have 4 batteries I rotate, keeping 3 charged at all times
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Black Box said:
I searched and can't seem to find any threads on this topic. Odd thing is I don't get any SOD or RR on ICS but can't use my damn tablet if its charging lol. Anyone have any input on this?
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I think it's a voltage thing. Im a long distance courier and i have an ac adapter in my van. When charging through a regular wall socket everything is fine. Yet when plugged into my inverter the screen is not responsive, as soon as i unplug it is fine. I typically use my tablet for netflix while im on the road. So i usually end up pressing play then plug it in. My inverter is rather weak, i was thinking of buying a higher output to see if it corrected things.
This post doesn't really help you, just letting you know you're not alone. If you can't charge while plugged into a wall socket, perhaps your charger is defective and is not sending out the proper current?
Good luck, i hope you find a solution.
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Hmm. Most likely its my third party power adapter. It's odd that the transformer won't allow variations in voltage. I've never had an issue with any device in the past 10 years using third party power adapters. Guess I'll have to spring for a 30 dollar asus charger . Thanks for the input guys.
Enercell AC adapter cat no. 273-358 with the USB connector piece. from radio shack
Been using this adapter for several months with out a hitch. Plus it has a 6 foot cord... Score!
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Same thing happened with my SGS.
So, it's not a TF only problem.
Happens on Nook Color too.
Sometimes it's not just unresponsive, it's erratic and causes touch events to register all over the screen for no reason. These happen only when plugged in so I assume there's some voltage issue.
Getting ready to do this to my gnex and thinking with all the pucks I have laying around it would be fun and beneficial to attempt this with the N7.
Anyone else have similar thoughts?
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I've thought about it -
But, the charger may not have enough juice. The Touchpad uses a different Touchstone charger for that reason, as I understand it. Maybe the smaller N7 would work.
I'll watch any homebrew projects to build a touchstone interface - but I'll probably wait for a charging dock that uses the pogo pins. That would be as convenient as the inductive charger, for me.
I understand what you're saying. Maybe we can rig up two coils for the backplate/battery and use a combo of two pucks lol.
http://board.homeseer.com/showthread.php?p=1017653
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But, the charger may not have enough juice. The Touchpad uses a different Touchstone charger for that reason, as I understand it. Maybe the smaller N7 would work.
I'll watch any homebrew projects to build a touchstone interface - but I'll probably wait for a charging dock that uses the pogo pins. That would be as convenient as the inductive charger, for me.
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https://plus.google.com/101739011161245720271/posts/fAse7vGmc3q
From the guy who was in charge of Palm Internals.
webeougher said:
https://plus.google.com/101739011161245720271/posts/fAse7vGmc3q
From the guy who was in charge of Palm Internals.
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Facepalm... This thread has been dead for a year now... Why did you have to bring it back?
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I was wondering what kind of accessories can make use of the POGO pins in the nexus 10?
Other than Charging docks, can we expect in the future keyboard covers, like the one introduced in the Microsoft Surface?
Short answer: Currently unknown.
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Short answer: Currently unknown.
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Longer answer: There is supposed to be a pogo pin fast charger coming out sometime in the *near* future.
What other devices have POGO pins and accessories? If they fit wouldn't they work? I can connect a mouse with a USB adapter. Wouldn't POGO work similarly?
Would like to see a small slim flash drive magnetically attach to pogo pins. Wouldn't want to knock it off during read write though.
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Something like this, which doesn't exist:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-10-tablet-forum/225484-pogo-charger.html
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Something like this, which doesn't exist:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-10-tablet-forum/225484-pogo-charger.html
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That is a pretty kick-azz photoshop job. It's got to be somewhere and someone is going to hake money with it. Guaranteed! But surely the Nexus 10 is not the only device with POGO pins and surely there must be other peripherals that connect with POGO pins, don't you think?
I want to know if is it "technically possible" to have keyboard cases or docks which make use of that POGO pins or not?
In short, could we slap a Qi-compliant coil in our Nexus 10, wire it to the battery, and win?
The coil itself is pretty thin from what I've seen, and there is a bit of room in-between the battery and back plastic (the people with creaky and buckling cases should know about this).
I don't know if there's an actual control board that is needed, but perhaps the coil could be hooked either directly to the battery, or even through USB (that way you can be notified of charging). If a control board is needed, then this might be a bit harder than expected, unless the board itself is pretty thin too.
It looks like someone's managed to do something similar to a Nexus 7 already and had good results (even enters docking mode): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2070851
Edit: Instead of routing the coil to the USB or battery directly, we could even hook it to the Pogo pin area, like the person did for the N7 coil mod above.
I'm willing to give this a try, but may have to wait a few weeks till I can get the funds for a coil and for it to ship to me.
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In short, could we slap a Qi-compliant coil in our Nexus 10, wire it to the battery, and win?
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According to a-post-at-techchrunch-i-cant-link-to-cause-im-a-noob, the Nexus 10 has Qi already... is it wrong? I haven't opened my Nexus 10 to check
I have openned up my Nexus 10 and dont remember anything for wireless charging being there.
I saw someone mod the Galaxy nexus to enable this sort of thing and from what I remember you should be right Espionage, just as simply as you think. And yes there is room to do it.
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According to a-post-at-techchrunch-i-cant-link-to-cause-im-a-noob, the Nexus 10 has Qi already... is it wrong? I haven't opened my Nexus 10 to check
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I can find no reference to the device on the offical Qi website. This makes me highly skeptical that Qi is already present on the N10, perhaps they confused it with the N4?
Search for yourself if you'd like: http://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/products
As slow as the Nexus 10 already charges with it's stock USB cable... do you really WANT to charge it with Qi? :laugh:
You might have to charge it for a week from 0% to get to 100%
Any further developments?
Hey Guys!
Is there any further developments on this possibility? :fingers-crossed:
Why not just use a pogo cable.... you would have to plug in a charging pad anyway.
Nexus 10 Wireless Charging Solution
I know it's been some time but I'm kind of surprized nobody posted a solution yet. I just had a Nexus 10 open and noticed not for the 1st time the pogo pins at the bottom that Google never even put to use. I can't even find an aftermarket docking station for it. We aren't talking about Apple here. Anyways the closest I've seen is a magnetic pogo pin charging adapter cable probably sold mostly to people who broke their USB ports. It seems nobody picked up on sewermike's comment. They DO have pogo pins and with a wireless coil (2-4 chained together) you could wire them to the + and - of the pogo pin cable easily. Also if you have access to old Nexus 2nd gen back covers you can get them there or on eBay cheap. It might be slow like TheAltruistic says but if you have a wireless device charging coffee table which I'm seeing more and more you can just set it on that. If I have time I'll do video or at least post my results.
ive got the pogo cable, if you can buy it do so - its well worth it, i think i paid £15 and i totally stand by it.
as for wireless charging, you can get wireless charging receiver cards that plug into the micro usb port, with this you can either plug it in and bend the cable around the tablet and hide it inside the case or plug it in and have it hang outside, you just rest the card on the charger.
please remember that is isnt a perfect solution as the card will get hot and overheat and stop charging or you'll spend all day charging the tablet.
i use to wirelessly charge the nexus 10 but id rather stick the pogo in
I just got a new OnePlus One over the holidays. I've noticed that periodically it was getting very hot when I was charging it, both when using a car and wall charger and multiple different cables. On Saturday night I left it on the charger overnight and in the morning the phone was melted around the charger cable! Check out the pics below.
Only thing worse is that OnePlus says that it's likely because I was using a 3rd party charging cable (from my Samsung Galaxy S3) so they won't provide a refund or replace it. But they will let me pay $350 for a new mother board. So I'm out $400 and a brand new phone.
Normally using a different cable and charger wouldn't have such an effect. I know many friends who use aftermarket cables and chargers built for different phones and their phones are fine so I take that cause with a grain of salt.
Having said that, did you do any modifications to the phone, whether it be software or hardware? When it was getting hot, did you do anything about it?
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Normally using a different cable and charger wouldn't have such an effect. I know many friends who use aftermarket cables and chargers built for different phones and their phones are fine so I take that cause with a grain of salt.
Having said that, did you do any modifications to the phone, whether it be software or hardware? When it was getting hot, did you do anything about it?
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No, I just got it. Didn't root or anything. When it got hot I rebooted the phone .. what is strange is that it didn't seem to always overheat. But it happened more than once on different chargers and cables.
I've been using a Samsung charger and cable that came from a galaxy s4 on so many different phones and nothing ever happened to them. Even have charged my one plus one with it. It was charging very slowly so I just used the one it came with and it charges at full speed.
Try talking with a different person and not mention using a different cable and charger. Its definitely not because of that. You deserve a new one.
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How??
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How??
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Probably due to using a cable that isn't rated to carry the current that the charger outputs and that the phone draws.
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Probably due to using a cable that isn't rated to carry the current that the charger outputs and that the phone draws.
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kinda like using a skill saw on one of those two dollar 12' household extension cords. everything gets hot.
It's really odd. The One itself uses a pretty powerful 2A charger :/
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Hmm... did you charge your phone directly when it was still hot?
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Probably due to using a cable that isn't rated to carry the current that the charger outputs and that the phone draws.
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Thing is if a charger comes rated at a high output amp, they usually ship an appropriate gauge cable for it. I'm pretty sure Samsung would've shipped a 28/24AWG Micro-USB cable with a 1/1.5/2A (maybe not 1A) charger to prevent the wire from melting out. My guess is OP probably mixed cables with chargers. It's common to have multiple Micro-USB to USB cables these days given most electronics support. Most of the time these cables are 28/28 gauge. I am guessing OP used a 28/28 with a high amp charger (although the standard S3 charger seems to be rated at 1A from my search results). Seems like OP used the OnePlus One charger rated at 2A with a cable which was probably rated for 0.7-1A (that seems to be the standard S3 charger's output).
Can we get more info on what charger and what gauge cable was used OP?
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Thing is if a charger comes rated at a high output amp, they usually ship an appropriate gauge cable for it. I'm pretty sure Samsung would've shipped a 28/24AWG Micro-USB cable with a 1/1.5/2A (maybe not 1A) charger to prevent the wire from melting out. My guess is OP probably mixed cables with chargers. It's common to have multiple Micro-USB to USB cables these days given most electronics support. Most of the time these cables are 28/28 gauge. I am guessing OP used a 28/28 with a high amp charger (although the standard S3 charger seems to be rated at 1A from my search results).
Can we get more info on what charger and what gauge cable was used OP?
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Yeah, that's exactly what I said.
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Yeah, that's exactly what I said.
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I was just trying to bring the odds of this happening to my phone closer to nil with a possible scenario so I could sleep better tonight after leaving it on charge :silly:
Everybody got a phone charger and cable with their phone right? Why would you use some other cable or charger then? Especially now that it seems that its possible to have your phone melt with using 3rd party equipment, why would you still not use the charger/cable that came with the phone? To me thats like buying a truck, putting different wheels on it and getting pissed when something happens.
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Everybody got a phone charger and cable with their phone right? Why would you use some other cable or charger then? Especially now that it seems that its possible to have your phone melt with using 3rd party equipment, why would you still not use the charger/cable that came with the phone? To me thats like buying a truck, putting different wheels on it and getting pissed when something happens.
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Convenience of not carrying that same cable everywhere? OP seemed to be using chargers at home and in his car, so it's easier to have a cable for each of those chargers.
Maybe the phone is defective. I hate it when OEM'S being cheap.
C'mon One Plus. Don't be like the ****ty samsung. Make the difference
Hey, you can easily and realitively cheaply change the plastic back cover on the OPO. Just purchase an original back cover replacement from OPO. It comes in various colors and even in bamboo. If the metal plug is still ok and only the plastic melted, you should be ok and still have a 100% original phone.
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Hey, you can easily and realitively cheaply change the plastic back cover on the OPO. Just purchase an original back cover replacement from OPO. It comes in various colors and even in bamboo. If the metal plug is still ok and only the plastic melted, you should be ok and still have a 100% original phone.
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He needs to change the fried motherboard
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I was just trying to bring the odds of this happening to my phone closer to nil with a possible scenario so I could sleep better tonight after leaving it on charge :silly:
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Leaving it on charge overnight isn't good for the battery anyway, the more time a lithium battery spends at peak voltage (4.2v) the faster it degrades.
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WHen you don't have the official charger/cable with you, I ALWAYS tell people to charge it via a computer USB port (0.5 A) instead to be on the safe side (with whatever cable you plan to use).
And never mix/match your USB cable/charger ports.