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What exactly does a ported rom mean?

Hey guys, I'm new here but I have some (nooby) questions. I'm currently using an iphone to tether my laptop using web2go from t-mobile. I got a g1 from someone and of course rooted and started tinkering with it so that I could get web2go to work on the g1.
My question mainly is if I port over say another android based os, like the droid eris os that is available, does that change the way the phone interacts with t mobile? Or would t-mobile still recognize the internal imei and not care about the os and settings? I'm mainly asking if I can port over another os onto the g1 so I can tether like I currently do.
I know there will be the people who say just buy the more expensive plans, but if I could I would. I'm tethering with these phones because I can't afford real internet!
Any help would be appreciated, thank you.

Tmobile will recognize the IMEI although I have used the wireless and wifi tether's both and not had a problem on Tmo.

wait you use the 9.99 web2go? What settings do you use? Because whenever I try it has trouble "finding internet connection" or whatever. although technically the internet should still be coming through right? It's just being subverted by the g1's software that requires the higher tier services?

If its rooted, just use the wireless tether app. You can find the link here and put it on your SD card. Download Linda file manager from the market and use it to install the tether apk. From there, you will change your phones 3G or Edge signal into a wifi one that your laptop can use. You can use that on any rom, and it doesn't matter wether its droid eris or stock. The only thing that tmobile can see is your imei and your radio version, not the rom.

ok I will try this tomorrow and get back to you. Thanks for all the help

well I tried it real quick right now and I guess I forgot to make clear whats going on. When using the G1 as opposed to the iphone, the web2go subscription gets subverted. So while web2go works with a proxy on the iphone, on the G1 it does nothing.
I have the tools to tether except the G1 / T-mobile subvert the internet. I wanted to know if this was based on imei or on a software lock. Because I have heard of people using their G1's with web2go I'm assuming it's a software lock. So if I use a rom of an os that can run web2go, will I be able to use it? or will the imei lock it out?

howardho said:
well I tried it real quick right now and I guess I forgot to make clear whats going on. When using the G1 as opposed to the iphone, the web2go subscription gets subverted. So while web2go works with a proxy on the iphone, on the G1 it does nothing.
I have the tools to tether except the G1 / T-mobile subvert the internet. I wanted to know if this was based on imei or on a software lock. Because I have heard of people using their G1's with web2go I'm assuming it's a software lock. So if I use a rom of an os that can run web2go, will I be able to use it? or will the imei lock it out?
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there's only really two different os versions. well, more, but two popular ones. 1.6 (donut) and 2.1 (eclair). does the g1 have a data plan? does it even have 3g? you say you just got it, so if you don't have 3g, there's nothing to tether. as for it not working - if you're rooted it will work. there's also a app on the market (for now) called easy tether. just use the free version.
edit: read top post more clearly - no. you can't tether if you don't have 3g. if you can, it's new to me.
one more edit: you can do what my friend did - take an old satellite dish, hardwire it to a router, and just connect a lot of wire clothes hangers to the satellite's receptor or.. er... thingy and steal wifi for like miles. ha ha.

The thing is web2go is a data plan that can access unlimited 3g through a proxy. T mobile wants users to use their strict g1 data plan, so any other data plans get shut off. I'm wondering if it's imei or software. If its a software lock then I can just install a different rom I'm guessing.
When I tether with the same data plan on my iphone i get edge speeds, the main reason i want to get the g1 working is so i can get the 3g speeds

Ok, then try this. Go to the tmobile.com website, sign in using your number and password (or create an account). When you get to the screen that shows you a picture of your phone, select the option right under the picture that says not my phone, then select any other 3G capable, non android device. That should put you in the clear for a few hours/days/weeks/months, or whenever they decide to check your account.

Ok I tried it but it still didn't work. I'm starting to think it might be the g1 software which is helping shut off the Internet. I'm going to install a new rom and hopefully I'll be able to set the settings for t mobile. Will keep u guys posted

New HD 2 user and XDA Member

Hi everyone,
Just joined this forum and got a HD 2 today. Everything seems to be in working order but I had a few questions:
1.) Will T-Mobile tack on the data package to my plan if I am using the HTC HD 2? I bought this phone off of someone from craigslist so I wanted to know about that. Also, will I get charged any kind of data usage if I am without a data plan? I ask this because I heard a story about a Android phone user who got charged a large amount of money because he was roaming without a data plan (somewhere along those lines).
2.) How do I get a picture to not tile when I apply it to my lock screen? I searched a couple of answers, but is there a way to prevent tiling without having to edit the photo outside of the phone itself?
Thanks in advance.

First of all this may depend on if your HD2 is T Mobile or the unlocked version. I asked a Tmobile rep in the US if I used my unlocked HD2 with their service if I would have a data plan added. He told me they wouldn't automatically add a data plan. You will have the ability to rack up pay-per-use data charges. So either pay for a data plan or disable your data connections carefully and use wifi.
I would recommend flashing a custom rom. Head over to the Rom section and try something out. The custom roms like Energy's are huge improvements over stock.
Enjoy your HD2 and Welcome.

Sorry, forgot to add that my HD is the T-Mobile version.
I tried disabling my data connection by holding the end call button then selecting the terminate data connection button, but I was wondering if that was ok to do?
Is there a way to block data completely?

I simply turn off all auto updates like weather stocks etc in their settings and use comm manager to turn of data when i do use it

There is a way to disable GPRS through the settings if you look hard enough. My custom energy rom comes with a data disable application built in.

Best way to disable 3G/data connection on Vibrant?

Hey guys! Just got my vibrant today, it is a beautiful phone. Going to root it and remove all the bloatware in a second here
Quick question for you guys-my current plan with T-Mobile does not include data. In the few hours I've owned the Vibrant, it has already sucked down several MBs of data...what is the best way to disable the data connection altogether? I only want to use data over wifi, nothing else.
Some googling revealed the app 'APNdroid'-is this still the best way to disable data, or is there a more current solution for the Vibrant?
Thanks!

That's odd. What plan are you on that allows you to access data without having a data plan?
To access data, I assume you'd need T-Zones at the very least (unless there's something even older that I'm forgetting). In which case, you will be nagged to upgrade to the 'Android Data Plan' after about 6-12 hours.
So confused.

I have a grandfathered myfaves plan. I definitely don't have data, was pretty confused when my phone started using data on the drive home. It completed a Google search for me and the 3g icon popped up in the notification bar. Hmmm....

Well if it helps any, I know for Bell Canada at least, even if you don't have a plan with a data addition, you can still access data (except at a really ludicrous rate).
(Or actually, this might be the case only because bell always put's it's browsers and junk on phones, even its feature phones)

Call T-Mobile and ask for a data block.

Fall From VOIP Heaven

I fulfilled my quest to get a data only plan on the Atrix by buying an AT&T mifi and just putting the SIM card in my atrix. This required creating a new APN for isp.cingular, and for about 4 months this worked great with a pure voip setup.
A few days ago something happened. My Atrix seems to be stuck on EDGE. It will no longer connect to HSPA in the same locations that it used to be H+ 24 hours a day.
The basics have been covered: power cycling, airplane mode cycling. No use. The SIM itself seems okay since I tried putting it back in the mifi unit, and it got 3G like normal. That also rules out a tower problem.
Anyone have any ideas? I feel like an ass now since I bought the mifi on contract.

You can call At&t and switch it to a voice plan with an hspa data plan so you can use your atrix.
Kind of admitting defeat though.
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Perhaps try flashing a different radio on the atrix. It could be an Incompatibility issue ? Worth a shot I would say
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So, I tried flashing different radios. No luck. After that I thought maybe some fresh ROMs might do it some good. No luck on Alien, and then I installed CM7 and noticed something interesting. The "Use only 2g networks" setting is stuck on. I turn it off, go back, and soon as I look again it's on. Is there something special you have to do to save it, or could this be pointing to an underlying problem?

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So, I tried flashing different radios. No luck. After that I thought maybe some fresh ROMs might do it some good. No luck on Alien, and then I installed CM7 and noticed something interesting. The "Use only 2g networks" setting is stuck on. I turn it off, go back, and soon as I look again it's on. Is there something special you have to do to save it, or could this be pointing to an underlying problem?
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Nothing special is needed to save it. It could be throttling by AT&T do to your imei being that of an Atrix vs a mifi.
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try another at&t sim on your Atrix

cesierra said:
try another at&t sim on your Atrix
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I suspect att has caught you with imei check and you should try with other sim card.
but i suspect it may not work.
why not use it with MiFi only?

drpratik said:
I suspect att has caught you with imei check and you should try with other sim card.
but i suspect it may not work.
why not use it with MiFi only?
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The problem with the mifi is its terrible battery life. It only gets 4 hours in hotspot mode. If it could last as long as my phone, I wouldn't even mind carrying around two devices, but it doesn't.
Anyway, great news. After listening to everyone's suggestions I took the SIM out of my phone and noticed that I was then able to properly disable "Use only 2G networks". So, I ordered a new AT&T SIM online, called and had it activated, and now 3G and H are working properly again. And along the way I fell in love with CyanogenMod.
I expect I'll probably have to repeat this process every few months if they continue to slap down my SIM cards, but I consider it worth it for not having to pay for a voice/text plan. I am still on contract, but to anyone who is considering doing something like me, T-mobile recently started offering a $30 a month plan that gets you 5 GB of data, 100 minutes, and unlimited text, and it's for phones! The only hitch is that it's a month by month thing (no contract) and it's promotional, so who knows when they'll decide to cut it. But personally, I'm hoping it's a sign that carriers are finally moving in the right direction.

nalorite said:
The problem with the mifi is its terrible battery life. It only gets 4 hours in hotspot mode. If it could last as long as my phone, I wouldn't even mind carrying around two devices, but it doesn't.
Anyway, great news. After listening to everyone's suggestions I took the SIM out of my phone and noticed that I was then able to properly disable "Use only 2G networks". So, I ordered a new AT&T SIM online, called and had it activated, and now 3G and H are working properly again. And along the way I fell in love with CyanogenMod.
I expect I'll probably have to repeat this process every few months if they continue to slap down my SIM cards, but I consider it worth it for not having to pay for a voice/text plan. I am still on contract, but to anyone who is considering doing something like me, T-mobile recently started offering a $30 a month plan that gets you 5 GB of data, 100 minutes, and unlimited text, and it's for phones! The only hitch is that it's a month by month thing (no contract) and it's promotional, so who knows when they'll decide to cut it. But personally, I'm hoping it's a sign that carriers are finally moving in the right direction.
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what do you use for voip?

xxgmon3yxx said:
what do you use for voip?
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I setup a google voice enabled PBX with pbxes.org, back when they let you make them for free. I know for a while they stopped doing that; not sure what the current policy is.
Basically the pbx pretends to be a google talk client, so when someone calls my google voice number it goes to the pbx. Then I have an extension on the pbx that I register on my phone with the native android SIP client, which on CM7 works like a dream. Seriously far smoother and more reliable than sipdroid or csipsimple.
Oh and this does work for outgoing too, but if you're using a solution that doesn't (like google voice -> sipgate/ipkall -> pbxes.org), you can get around it with an app called Google Voice Callback. And it's still all free.

nalorite said:
I setup a google voice enabled PBX with pbxes.org, back when they let you make them for free. I know for a while they stopped doing that; not sure what the current policy is.
Basically the pbx pretends to be a google talk client, so when someone calls my google voice number it goes to the pbx. Then I have an extension on the pbx that I register on my phone with the native android SIP client, which on CM7 works like a dream. Seriously far smoother and more reliable than sipdroid or csipsimple.
Oh and this does work for outgoing too, but if you're using a solution that doesn't (like google voice -> sipgate/ipkall -> pbxes.org), you can get around it with an app called Google Voice Callback. And it's still all free.
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What is the native android SIP client? May I know the app?
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anupash said:
What is the native android SIP client? May I know the app?
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In 2.3 they added SIP calling to the android OS. It's not an app. Of course, in stock android it only works on wifi. Cyanogen unlocks its true potential by letting you use it on cellular too.

In my experience, on stock ROM SIP is an epic fail, both native and via apps (tried acrobits, sipdroid, csipsimple, sipagent). There is something funny about moto's audio routing stack, its not a network or settings issue.
Same settings and SIP providers - yes I tried two lol - , same apps, same network i.e. home Wifi, 100% perfect with nexus one. So I'm sure its Atrix specific. This happened on both stock 2.2 and 2.3 AT&T.
Custom ROM fixes this, CM7 native SIP works perfectly.
Can't remember for other ROMs, but they seemed to get apps working if not native SIP.
YMMV

Kindle 2 3G sim+cardock= awesome car enhancement?

I have a very odd set of questions to accomplish a very specific thing.
The atrix 4G was the best smartphone to use when driving, The simple mount with the unified power/audio cable, the interface, so I want to make it a permanent carphone for navigation and music.
so my roommate that I drive around with went with this idea and threw in his kindle 2 sim card to use, but there are 2 problems, but only one of them needs to be solved.
A. no data, I get signal, it recognizes the signal strength and carrier, but it can transfer any data, I believe it is a problem with the APN but after hours of researching and tweaking, I got no progress.
B. offline navigation. The sim will give me a GPS location, which is awesome, but while I can download maps of the area in google maps I cannot use navigation without a web connection. I would prefer to use the native app but that's just me being reluctant to trying new apps, so if I have to use a 3rd party app I can.
I don't really expect the kindle 2 sim to work for obvious reasons, even if I did get it to do data I would use it very lightly.
Another option is some kinda way to switch between 2 AT&T sims on my "unlimited" data account, as physically switching them will be a pain.
3rd option is a some kinda cheapo AT&T/T-Mobile quarter gig $10/mo plan.
At this point I am just tossing around ideas, and need some help steering and executing this project.

I'd be shocked if whatever network that Amazon uses for their kindles doesnt check the IMEI number of the phone to ensure its actually a kindle for this very reason. You're going to have to look at some other carrier for your needs. I'd avoid T-Mobile since the Atrix does not support their 3G bands at this time (they may in the future to support unlocked iphones, but I wouldnt count on it).

Amazon is probably using it's own proxy server for mobile data, and even if you managed to configure your phone to use it most likely Amazon will ban your sim card very soon.
I think the best solution is to set up your regular phone with unlimited data as wi-fi hotspot and use this wi-fi connection from Atrix mounted in car.

I agree with tananaev. I have read about countless people getting their kindle banned because they tried to tether it. Setting up a hotspot in your car from primary phone would be best. Just remember someone might try to break your window to steal your phone. I personally use line in with PowerAmp. Turns off when unplugged, turns on when plugged. Simple.
Data is not important for a 'car stereo'. With the atrix, you have roughly 10gb of space for music/videos and microSD are really cheap if you need more. Also, consider trying Navfree from the market. It uses openstreetmaps.org and is completely free and offline.
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