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So iam Thinking of selling my note 2 and buy an s4, but after seeing the vast bad consumer reviews on both the german and uk amazon about the failure rates of the display and overheating issues its starting to worrying me.
Did you guys have any issues with your s4?
Should I wait for a less defective batch?
The version available to me is the l9505
People are going to have different opinions. Some will say fw will fix problems. When the Note 3 and/or the S5 come out, I know what I'm doing. I'm going to wait a little bit, not too long though and get a feel of what consumers have to say about the device before purchasing. To each their own.
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So iam Thinking of selling my note 2 and buy an s4, but after seeing the vast bad consumer reviews on both the german and uk amazon about the failure rates of the display and overheating issues its starting to worrying me.
Did you guys have any issues with your s4?
Should I wait for a less defective batch?
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Problems you read about on the Internet can happen, however, in the case of S4 some of the problems have been solved by Samsung with firmware updates.
Overheating seem to happen more often on i9500 than on i9505. I personally never had a problem with overheating.
I personally wouldn't wait.
Therr are 2 versions of s4.
1. I9500 - has heating problem due to the octa core processor.
2. I9505 - comparitively, gets lets heated up.
About the screen issue, most of it is caused due to not handling s4 properly or by heating issue.
Anyway, note 2 is an awesome device. I own one too. Apart from note 2, I own s4. I must say that s4 is way better than note 2. You can see significant performance with s4 along with the amazing software support from samsung.
The choice it yours. You should look at some reviews on youtube becuase there is nothing called as 'less defective batch of s4' unlike the defects found in htc one.
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alundra212 said:
So iam Thinking of selling my note 2 and buy an s4, but after seeing the vast bad consumer reviews on both the german and uk amazon about the failure rates of the display and overheating issues its starting to worrying me.
Did you guys have any issues with your s4?
Should I wait for a less defective batch?
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If you are using note 2 then at least you should wait more one or two months...i dont think s4 is so big update over note 2
Yes..if you are using other devices like note 1 , s2 (or s3 may be) etc then you can buy s4 now and now you can get much price cut on s4
After all its your choice
if you come from the note 2 then my advice is to wait for the note 3
its the best choice for you and the note 2 is still a very capable device that runs anything currently out well
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This thread is going towards comparison b/w S4 and Note 2. isn't it.?
BTW, I do have both devices S4 octa V & Note 2.
Both have different parameters. Better to use this thread for comparison -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2334012
I have SGSIII E210K and SGS4 I9500. Both have heat issue. And i wouldn't say I9500 have exceptional heating. Nope. It's comparable to E210K, but may be a little more hot. But, hey, I9500 has more powerful CPU as well.
Thus heating level is normal if compare to other powerful devices. If u don't play 3D games and don't use live 3d wallpaper then I9500 won't heat much.
Note 2 (and Note 3 will as well) has bigger size and thus more efficient in heat dissipation. So, it's obviously will work better even with the same CPU. And has room for bigger battery as well.
If you are user of Note 2 then upgrade to Note 3 will be more pleasant than to S4 where u will have some trade-offs.
As a i9500 user I haven't experienced any reset due to camera or heating. Heating is moderate even when I am running benchmarks. Everything seems fine to me and performance is extraordinary! Only thing I wonder is we might not get google edition rom but there is a possibility that samsung will release a fw for i9500 that will run all 8 cores which is exciting!
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As a i9500 user I haven't experienced any reset due to camera or heating. Heating is moderate even when I am running benchmarks. Everything seems fine to me and performance is extraordinary! Only thing I wonder is we might not get google edition rom but there is a possibility that samsung will release a fw for i9500 that will run all 8 cores which is exciting!
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??? all at the same time? samsung must be evil
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As a i9500 user I haven't experienced any reset due to camera or heating. Heating is moderate even when I am running benchmarks. Everything seems fine to me and performance is extraordinary! Only thing I wonder is we might not get google edition rom but there is a possibility that samsung will release a fw for i9500 that will run all 8 cores which is exciting!
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8 cores at the same time would equal very low battery time.
Well that might be the reason behind late developing process.
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soralalp said:
As a i9500 user I haven't experienced any reset due to camera or heating. Heating is moderate even when I am running benchmarks. Everything seems fine to me and performance is extraordinary! Only thing I wonder is we might not get google edition rom but there is a possibility that samsung will release a fw for i9500 that will run all 8 cores which is exciting!
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+1 on that
if you read forums you will notice there are more heating problem on i9505. my 9500 never heatting over 50 degrees.
I see everyone talking about the overheating but what about the display failure rates?
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I see everyone talking about the overheating but what about the display failure rates?
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Never had one. Can you briefly explain what do you want to know exactly.
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alundra212 said:
So iam Thinking of selling my note 2 and buy an s4, but after seeing the vast bad consumer reviews on both the german and uk amazon about the failure rates of the display and overheating issues its starting to worrying me.
Did you guys have any issues with your s4?
Should I wait for a less defective batch?
The version available to me is the l9505
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I had i9500 and now I have i9505g.
I bought first a week after an official release and I got the second delivered last monday.
I have never ever had a single issues with either of phones.
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criszz said:
+1 on that
if you read forums you will notice there are more heating problem on i9505. my 9500 never heatting over 50 degrees.
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Same here for 9500, no heating at all. I'll try to OC soon to see if it's going to overheat a lot
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No issues here since i bought my 9500 last May 7.
Idk but on my i9500 i have major heating issues am w8ing for a firmware update but there arent any coming so if u wud buy buy an i9505
damn it where is that update
This is my Second I9505 my first was fried because of my misuse, neither of mine have had any overheating issues i have always had mine either in low usage simply for facebook or high usage and benchmarks never have had any overheating issues since Day 1
Hello everyone, i'm planning to sell my Xperia Z due to overheating problems and buy a The new SGS4 but I'M VERRY CONFUSED which model is the best I know that the best for performance is the I9500 although I saw some people say that it overheat so please i9500 owners do u have any problems with your phones?
Thank you
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Walid Rouabhi said:
Hello everyone, i'm planning to sell my Xperia Z due to overheating problems and buy a The new SGS4 but I'M VERRY CONFUSED which model is the best I know that the best for performance is the I9500 although I saw some people say that it overheat so please i9500 owners do u have any problems with your phones?
Thank you
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I dont know about overheating but I know I looked everywhere for 19500 which it looks like you can only find online. From what ive read the proc itself is better .. not so much right now but has room to be used way more effectivly.. If there is no overheating issues i would get the 9500 just in case down the road these fine people are able to unlock the xtra power. As for me I couldnt wait for an order and just bought the 9505 and Im super happy with it.. Good luck either way im sure youll be happy.
I am happy with my i9505 and the development seems better also.
Walid Rouabhi said:
Hello everyone, i'm planning to sell my Xperia Z due to overheating problems and buy a The new SGS4 but I'M VERRY CONFUSED which model is the best I know that the best for performance is the I9500 although I saw some people say that it overheat so please i9500 owners do u have any problems with your phones?
Thank you
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If you plan to install roms such as CM or AOKP then the i9505 is your choice, if not then it really doesn't matter, just buy the cheapest of the two.
Get the one which is being officially sold in your country. If you can have either one, I would recommend i9505.
Thank you all but does your i9505s heat up?
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Thank you all but does your i9505s heat up?
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Mine doesn't have a heating problem. Is normal to be hot when playing demanding games, but it is not extremely hot.
Snapdragon version (i9505) should be a little bit cooler (not too much though).
For better custom ROM support I suggest the I9505. But i doubt the Galaxy S4 will be much coolee than the Xperia Z.
Stay away from the i9500 , I thought I was getting a good phone and here are a few things that made me decide to stay away from samsung from now :
- It overheats like crazy (no matter what you are doing on it , even idle charging)
- It's less powerful than the i9505 (don't kid yourself , A15 @ 1.6GHz is weaker than the 1.9 GHz Snapdragon)
- Freezes and reboots itself several times a week (due to application/stock rom issues)
Horrible , horrible experience.
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Stay away from the i9500 , I thought I was getting a good phone and here are a few things that made me decide to stay away from samsung from now :
- It overheats like crazy (no matter what you are doing on it , even idle charging)
- It's less powerful than the i9505 (don't kid yourself , A15 @ 1.6GHz is weaker than the 1.9 GHz Snapdragon)
- Freezes and reboots itself several times a week (due to application/stock rom issues)
Horrible , horrible experience.
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Dude, something's terribly wrong with your phone. Sounds like problems that the phone had with its original first firmware. Update, wipe and than come back in.
I have I9500 and I'm on Omega v11 with stock kernel, have no issues with overheating in idle or simple tasks. Demanding tasks or games makes phone hot, but tolerable. Battery life is great, especially now on MG5!
And since I bought it, I have never had even one random reboot or freeze.
And to notice. A15 with its GPU is more potent than Snapdragon 600 with its Adreno.
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Dude, something's terribly wrong with your phone. Sounds like problems that the phone had with its original first firmware. Update, wipe and than come back in.
I have I9500 and I'm on Omega v11 with stock kernel, have no issues with overheating in idle or simple tasks. Demanding tasks or games makes phone hot, but tolerable. Battery life is great, especially now on MG5!
And since I bought it, I have never had even one random reboot or freeze.
And to notice. A15 with its GPU is more potent than Snapdragon 600 with its Adreno.
Regards
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I have tried almost every single firmware out there (Stock only) , I refuse to root it and/or apply modded roms since it will null my warranty (and yes , most of the bugs I came across are from firmwares but still a phone someone should stay away from)
He's right. The octa processor isn't really ready for prime time yet. It doesn't really work the way an octa core should and doesn't give any advantage over the quad at this stage. It seems it was mostly a marketing gimmick - some people will buy it because they assume more cores makes it better.
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He's right. The octa processor isn't really ready for prime time yet. It doesn't really work the way an octa core should and doesn't give any advantage over the quad at this stage. It seems it was mostly a marketing gimmick - some people will buy it because they assume more cores makes it better.
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"some people will buy it because they assume more cores makes it better. "
Sorry but I had no choice when buying it at AMAZON site. Only choice was the color ' black or white".
For me it was only one S4 and not many different model as today (more than 6 versions!!!) That's a funny way Samsung is playing with prodduct names.
Anyway I am happy with what I get, no LTE available in my country and it will take long time to open, so when ready I'll be buying S8!!! may be....
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Stay away from the i9500 , I thought I was getting a good phone and here are a few things that made me decide to stay away from samsung from now :
- It overheats like crazy (no matter what you are doing on it , even idle charging)
- It's less powerful than the i9505 (don't kid yourself , A15 @ 1.6GHz is weaker than the 1.9 GHz Snapdragon)
- Freezes and reboots itself several times a week (due to application/stock rom issues)
Horrible , horrible experience.
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Dude your phone is a faulty unit. I have a 9500 ( stock, rooted ) and haven't had any of the problems you are saying.
I recommend the 9505 because it has a better battery life than the 9500
last week, my glaxy S3 I9300 exploded during the phone call, and my mild chin got hurt, I don't know If I should continue to believe Samsung Galaxy S models again, Will you switch to Galaxy 4 if you were me?
I only support companies that have products blow up in my face.
Two thumbs up from me. :good: :good:
I seriously dont beleive that it "blew up". Were you using a non oem battery?
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kingyang01 said:
last week, my glaxy S3 I9300 exploded during the phone call, and my mild chin got hurt, I don't know If I should continue to believe Samsung Galaxy S models again, Will you switch to Galaxy 4 if you were me?
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This is the internet, so "Pictures or it didnt happen". I can tell you right now that if this happened to me I would take pictures of my phone and my chin. So where are yours?
Proof that your phone actually blew up?
Odd... considering only a very small fraction of those that have "blown up" have ever been recorded and those that did made it to major electronics sites.
The most that has happened to an s4 has been the charge port frying and catching fire. Even then 95% of people are thinking in regards to voltage with the charger.
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Haha I like how this guy makes a thread to only say that. Then doesn't respond 3 days after. This is nonsense. And I think he is just being a troll using then story that came out of China in believe last week that some guy claims his galaxy blew up or caught on fire.
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This thread will now self destruct and blow up your computer.
Im thinking the OP is an HTC troll trying to stir the pot
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Going from 3 to 4, no. Going from 2 to 4, meh. Going from 1 to 4, yes.
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Going from 3 to 4, no. Going from 2 to 4, meh. Going from 1 to 4, yes.
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Going from the GS2 to the GS4 gets a "meh" from you? Really? The screen alone is a massive upgrade in every way. Different strokes I guess, but jeez.
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The screen is just about the only thing that is noticeably better between the two, IMO. Well I suppose if you already have LTE rolled out in your area, that would also be a welcomed improvement. I did have an iPhone 4s for a short time. For me, the jump from the g2 to the g4 would be like going from a 4s to a 5. Higher resolution and slightly larger screen and LTE vs 3g. Other than that, the differences are only slightly incremental and aren't a night and day difference that can be noticed immediately or even after a week of usage.
The stock battery on the s4 does seem to last longer than the stock s2.
I own lots of web blogs and forum but i recently start a new forum named SamsungGalaxyTalk, And now i want a boost start with a giveaway so please tell me about your views of this, And also suggest me another device(budget no matter) if you think their is better device for a boost start giveaway.
First of all always post on proper section I.e questions section.
If you think you must have latest device.
Then for now only nexus 5 or lg g2,
Note 3 if u like big phone.
If you want to know Is s4 is better way to go?
Answer will be. Yes. S4 is still a awesome, a killer with awesome features. Awesome amoled. Awesome vibration feedback feels like real keyboard. S4 have many features which is impossible to get in other device. Only the bad thing is Lil bit low cpu then today's smart phone. S4 have 2 version snapdragon 600 And octa exynos.
Both are almost similar. But not fast as snapdragon 800.
I know you will question that. How much slow s4 is. I would say, not much just 4 5 fps lower than snapdragon 800. And In processing not much difference. I don't care of benchmark I say what I feel.
Anyways.
S4 is better if u want to go. No disadvantages. Some mentioned upper part.
And if u will buy nexus 5. Beware of dead/stuck pixel. It's really annoying to me.
Good luck.
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Surely its a samsung galaxy of some sort if thats what your forum is about.
It would be a bit stupid giving away an iphone5s.....
Note 3
what you suggest ( note 3 or s4 or cash prize.)
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what you suggest ( note 3 or s4 or cash prize.)
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Note 3.
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Hello everyone
Long story short, I decided to upgrade and went with an M9 (or three), and each one had a different problem. All of them suffered from light leaks, the last one stuck pixel too. The camera is poor, so I am weighing my options. Coming from a G3, my obvious choice would be a G4 but...BUT !
I have managed to find the Exynos variant of the Note 4 for about 378 pounds, brand new and sealed. My question is (for current users) - would you consider it future proof? Is it still snappy, good, and a good investement for another year or so? Would you recommend it over the G4?
Many thanks
Well, I was in the same boat as you: Wanted to upgrade from my G3 because I had the 2GB variant, it was a lagfest with launcher redraws and apps closing all the time. AOSP had good performance but also had bugs and the camera sucked.
So I found the Exynos Note 4 for a good prince in my area and decided to take the plunge even though I never owned a samsung phone before, and bought it based on the interest I had on the Note II back then and some superficial reviews I've had read about it.
I have absolutely no regrets whatsoever, the Note 4 definitely feels like an upgrade from the G3. It's faster, the screen has better colors and contrast, better visibility in the sun, and touchwiz came a long way from the old days where it was regarded as one of the worst manufacturer skins to android. The note 4 has many features that amazed me, including the best one-hand mode implementation so far.
I say go with it, you won't be disappointed.
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Well, I was in the same boat as you: Wanted to upgrade from my G3 because I had the 2GB variant, it was a lagfest with launcher redraws and apps closing all the time. AOSP had good performance but also had bugs and the camera sucked.
So I found the Exynos Note 4 for a good prince in my area and decided to take the plunge even though I never owned a samsung phone before, and bought it based on the interest I had on the Note II back then and some superficial reviews I've had read about it.
I have absolutely no regrets whatsoever, the Note 4 definitely feels like an upgrade from the G3. It's faster, the screen has better colors and contrast, better visibility in the sun, and touchwiz came a long way from the old days where it was regarded as one of the worst manufacturer skins to android. The note 4 has many features that amazed me, including the best one-hand mode implementation so far.
I say go with it, you won't be disappointed.
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If you have a choice NEVER go for exynos ESPECIALLY if you want to root/flash roms later on. If you are fine with stock rom then it doesn't matter which you go for. Just know that stock is a little laggy no matter which variant you go for.
I hated the lag and finally installed CM and am not looking back, you can get SPEN functionality on AOSP roms now too so not really an issue. CM FLIES on note 4, so fast!!!!
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If you have a choice NEVER go for exynos ESPECIALLY if you want to root/flash roms later on. If you are fine with stock rom then it doesn't matter which you go for. Just know that stock is a little laggy no matter which variant you go for.
I hated the lag and finally installed CM and am not looking back, you can get SPEN functionality on AOSP roms now too so not really an issue. CM FLIES on note 4, so fast!!!!
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Maybe I should've worded my post differently. The snapdragon isn't available in my area, so there was no option of choosing variants. Exynos has no aosp, but SimplRom is pretty fast and yet has all the built in spen functionality.
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Maybe I should've worded my post differently. The snapdragon isn't available in my area, so there was no option of choosing variants. Exynos has no aosp, but SimplRom is pretty fast and yet has all the built in spen functionality.
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Welcome to the family my brothers
I have the Exynos version & it's great
I recently got a Note 4 N910C, which is the Exynos model for the EU and I can honestly say that I love it.
I seek a kind advice, I currently have a 2GB G3 and i am looking to upgrade (as i wont have an opportunity to do that in future) Been deciding between an iphone 6plus and note 4, or basically any other big phone. So should i go for a note 4 or a different device? My main concern is if the note will be a solid choise for about 2 years or so.
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Oneplus two,Note 5,iphone 7 plus or 6s plus are coming in a month or so.If you can wait
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Oneplus two,Note 5,iphone 7 plus or 6s plus are coming in a month or so.If you can wait
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I know that, what i also know is that when they are released they will cost a ton in my country so im afraid that i wont be able to aford them. But i guess ill have to just wait and see
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Get the exynos, the CPU will be cooler therefore you will have no underclock due to high temps like 4 core snapdragon. Also a dev here (sorry i dont remember his name) is working on CM for our phone with exynos chip. But i really don't feel like i need to change the stock samsung rom so bad, some guys here are drowning on a teaspoon of water. Note 4 is one of the best phones atm, go for it.
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I know that, what i also know is that when they are released they will cost a ton in my country so im afraid that i wont be able to aford them. But i guess ill have to just wait and see
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Well,oneplus two will be a lot cheaper than Note 4 exynos
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By the way it's rumored oneplus two will have the snapdragon 810. This chip has overheating issues.
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Well,oneplus two will be a lot cheaper than Note 4 exynos
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Well oneplus one costs about as much as exynos note 4 here, it is cheaper but the difference is not that big so i think that oneplus two will be about the same price as a note
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By the way it's rumored oneplus two will have the snapdragon 810. This chip has overheating issues.
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Oh yeah, the controversial snapdragon 810 lol.. I almost forgot that oneplus two will have it
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By the way it's rumored oneplus two will have the snapdragon 810. This chip has overheating issues.
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Oneplus two has revised v2.1for them.They have solved the heating issues
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Oneplus two has revised v2.1for them.They have solved the heating issues
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sony Z3+ HAS 2.1v
an so what ?
it is burning !!
snapdargon 810 i crap !