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The reason I am writing this thread is because of this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883222
The OP raised his concern regarding Cyanogenmod not being the biggest concerns for the Dev's. But I honestly think that during the times of CM6 the Dev's could have played a bigger role of bringing it to our Vibrant. I know Eugene tried to do something with it, but i think the release of Gingerbread 2.3 made his work not worthwhile because it was based on 2.2.I am aware that CM7 is in"heavy development cycle" due to Gingerbread 2.3, and most likely will be coming to our Vibrant. With that being said, I feel it is necessary because since we were not able to get CM6 to our phones then why not go for MIUI.
Honestly it is one of the greatest ROMS out there and sometimes i feel that our Vibrant should be getting some more love.Keep in mind that I am in no way bashing TW/Eugene or any other Dev's. Their work is nothing short of quality since I have been a very heavy user of both the Nero and Macnut Series. But I am sure that most people wouldn't mind having MIUI on their phones since its the best of both worlds. (Iphone/Android) Also, I wouldn't know the full process porting such a ROM because it is not an easy task and I am in no way a developer. Maybe it is being worked on with a 2.3 Base? Idk? I am just seeking for answers as I am sure most of other people are as well. I really hope that MIUI really comes to our phone and it becomes one of those projects where many Dev's were in the process to port the SenseUI (back in the day). Just trying to make our community better.
For Those who are unaware of MIUI ROM, here's a demo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0U8ISI8YXM
Flame me, Hate me, w.e.. I just think its a debatable subject.
Ty.
What is this? A new trend?
hopefullu for the good.
Here is why, in my opinion.
If 25% of the masses want cm or miui, 25% want 2.2.1, and the rest want 2.3 - 2.3 it will be.
I like miui, I even had a barely working version of it for a little while. But, the guys who use my releases know what they want, those who use TW want their roms bionic, etc for master, eugene et al.
Nowdays, with leaks once a week, I think it will be tough to get a dev to drop everything else and start a port like miui.
But, if I could do it, I would, I think.
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Here is why, in my opinion.
If 25% of the masses want cm or miui, 25% want 2.2.1, and the rest want 2.3 - 2.3 it will be.
I like miui, I even had a barely working version of it for a little while. But, the guys who use my releases know what they want, those who use TW want their roms bionic, etc for master, eugene et al.
Nowdays, with leaks once a week, I think it will be tough to get a dev to drop everything else and start a port like miui.
But, if I could do it, I would, I think.
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Wow, that was the exact answer I was looking for. Like I mentioned before I am no Dev and you being here longer than me and more experienced I will take yourword for it. Your also right about these leaks coming very fast. Hopefully after a full port of 2.3 is done maybe just maybe we can get MIUI.
Thx Alot.
Yeah I Was Gonna Start Working On MIUI But I Need A Cyanogen Source, There Isn't One So I Kinda Hit A Wall
Maybe If Jellette Can Send Me What He Started I Can Just Port MIUI
Erickomen27 said:
Yeah I Was Gonna Start Working On MIUI But I Need A Cyanogen Source, There Isn't One So I Kinda Hit A Wall
Maybe If Jellette Can Send Me What He Started I Can Just Port MIUI
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There are some serious problems with it but I think it is still on my computer, I'll let you know
Later.
Its Cool If Theres Some Problems, All I Need Is A Starting Point And I'd Be Able To Go From There
Does any other dev have a working cyanogen source??
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What's MIUI?
Couldn't figure out what MIUI is from this post or the one linked in the OP.
Its A Chineese Rom
Its Basically The Best Rom Ever
I Have It On My Droid Incredible Its Super Quick And Looks Like Iphone Kinda
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Couldn't figure out what MIUI is from this post or the one linked in the OP.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0U8ISI8YXM
Demo of the ROM.
Hey, I'm having some trouble finding a full AOSP 2.3 Gingerbread ROM with zero modifications to styling. I obviously want one that has all the necessary drivers for the hardware, but I don't want "extras". I've seemingly tried them all, and the closest to full AOSP I could find was bcnice's ROM, which he hasn't updated in months. The most up to date, closest to AOSP I've found is the Evervolv 1.0.1b4, but I'm getting tired of flashing the stock font pack every time I try a new update, and I don't like that is has its "own launcher".
Are there any fully functional 2.3 ROMs available that are 100% AOSP, or does everyone add their recommended programs and styling? It feels like I'm getting a carrier update lol.
What you are looking for just doesn't exist yet. Closest thing available are the Roms you already tried or this one below, but many things don't work yet like front cam, gps, etc....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877653
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Hey, I'm having some trouble finding a full AOSP 2.3 Gingerbread ROM with zero modifications to styling. I obviously want one that has all the necessary drivers for the hardware, but I don't want "extras". I've seemingly tried them all, and the closest to full AOSP I could find was bcnice's ROM, which he hasn't updated in months. The most up to date, closest to AOSP I've found is the Evervolv 1.0.1b4, but I'm getting tired of flashing the stock font pack every time I try a new update, and I don't like that is has its "own launcher".
Are there any fully functional 2.3 ROMs available that are 100% AOSP, or does everyone add their recommended programs and styling? It feels like I'm getting a carrier update lol.
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evervolv is no where near stock.... lol.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881557
closest thing to stock
aimbdd said:
evervolv is no where near stock.... lol.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881557
closest thing to stock
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Cool, thanks. Looks like that one's been updated to fix the issues I remember with it before. I'll give it a shot!
Just out of curiosity, why isn't there a 100% AOSP rom? Is it because there is little dev interest? Would it be very difficult to do a straight port? It seems like maybe CM would release a straight port before they started adding their stuff... but I'm a newb and unsure of how the process works really.
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Just out of curiosity, why isn't there a 100% AOSP rom? Is it because there is little dev interest? Would it be very difficult to do a straight port? It seems like maybe CM would release a straight port before they started adding their stuff... but I'm a newb and unsure of how the process works really.
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I'm using the SalvageMod one mentioned earlier now, and it's VERY stock. The only things that are different that I can see are some custom wallpapers (doesn't really count as not-AOSP) and the semi-transparent notification drop down.
kommydroid is completely stock 2.3 with the only mod being the boot animation.
KommyDroid Looks pretty good... when I get my new Evo from Sprint, I'll try flashing it.
I really like CM7, but I would like a good Rom that has SenseUI. anyone know of one? i'd like it to be stable and most stuff working.
Orange Sense. HTC Sense, very fast and stable. Available in the development forum.
I have a question...pardon my ignorance on the matter...
What exactly are "earmarks" of a senseUI? I used my stock glacier rom until only last week, and now am using CM7/RC4, and I fail to see the UI differences. This surprised me because I see people have some pretty strong feelings for or against senseUI compared to Android stock UI.
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they are two different rom types, the sense framework takes up more space, but it is really fancy with the clock that's the only reason i want it.
You want the old fashioned 1980s flip clock that you see in most of the Mytouch 4G print ads? I didn't even realize that was now not an option...
I cannot imagine you can't use it though. Just review all the different home launchers... There had got to be one that will let you use this clock.
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I have a question...pardon my ignorance on the matter...
What exactly are "earmarks" of a senseUI? I used my stock glacier rom until only last week, and now am using CM7/RC4, and I fail to see the UI differences. This surprised me because I see people have some pretty strong feelings for or against senseUI compared to Android stock UI.
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You don't see the difference between Sense and the standard Android UI?
Also, the stock MT4G ROM is not real Sense. It's a T-Mobile customized version that isn't near as attractive. "Real" Sense is much more attractive.
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You don't see the difference between Sense and the standard Android UI?
Also, the stock MT4G ROM is not real Sense. It's a T-Mobile customized version that isn't near as attractive. "Real" Sense is much more attractive.
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Not really, and I am usually big on bells and whistles too. I think I may go back to sense (a modded 2.3 rom). Are there any you (or anyone with an opinion) suggest I try out first?
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the modded 2.3 ones aren't stable i don't think, that's why im asking is there one lol. most have issues running somethings like bluetooth or camera.
Evil's 4G-HD Desire HD rom. Pair it with the latest Faux Sense kernel and it will fly! Everything works!
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Not really, and I am usually big on bells and whistles too. I think I may go back to sense (a modded 2.3 rom). Are there any you (or anyone with an opinion) suggest I try out first?
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The two posts above this one pretty much sums it up.
Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 ROMs aren't fully functional or stable yet.
If you want Sense, try eViL's Desire HD port. Link is in my sig.
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The two posts above this one pretty much sums it up.
Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 ROMs aren't fully functional or stable yet.
If you want Sense, try eViL's Desire HD port. Link is in my sig.
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Great.. will try it out. The only things I have noticed that are different are small niceties, which may have nothing to do with sense and cm7. For example, in the glacier's stock rom, I loved that you could be on the phone and simply set it on a table rear side up, and haptics would turn on the speakerphone. It doesn't sound like much but small things like this add up and overall gave me a better experience.
Can I ask why faux and others at cyanogen are able to create 4 release candidates for their 2.3 rom, yet a stable 2.3 sense rom is still weeks away? Is this because of the morons over at HTC, who don't understand what open source means and won't release their code?
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Can I ask why faux and others at cyanogen are able to create 4 release candidates for their 2.3 rom, yet a stable 2.3 sense rom is still weeks away? Is this because of the morons over at HTC, who don't understand what open source means and won't release their code?
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Pretty much. We'll of course never have the source code to Sense, but a good dump from a similar phone can be ported. The problem is, the only Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 dump we have is from the Incredible S, and despite the similarities in hardware, the kernel isn't directly compatible. It sounds like until we get a better starting point, those ROMs will be buggy and missing features.
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Pretty much. We'll of course never have the source code to Sense, but a good dump from a similar phone can be ported. The problem is, the only Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 dump we have is from the Incredible S, and despite the similarities in hardware, the kernel isn't directly compatible. It sounds like until we get a better starting point, those ROMs will be buggy and missing features.
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By dump do you mean the actual code? And so is motorola (or whoever is behind the incredible...cannot recall at the moment) releasing their code? Because if you are just doing a memory dump and doing some RE to get the actual code, I would ask why that can't be done with the glacier.
And as long you have something a little better than binary, I would think you could get some reasonable starting point from the glacier stock. I am not really skilled in the art as of yet so consider me mostly speaking out of my ass. But I am quite interested. Maybe I will try to get the sense code for you . I mean there has to be a few draft versions in some server not locked up tight.
Oh..and lastly, so evil's rom is a quasi 2.3 (not in substance) with the kernel being 2.2 just tricked out?
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
At this point, I don't think I know much more about this than you. I know a dump is much like the ROMs that we flash to our phones...it's the phones entire OS and software package which can then be ported to other phones (assume their of the same manufacturer and are somewhat similar). As you know, the Desire HD is nearly identical to the Glacier (minus the screen) so a dump from it can be easily ported to our phones, and after some "devving", will run perfectly on the MT4G. As far as binaries and code, that's all way beyond me. An actual dev could give you a lot more detailed info.
I asked this earlier and I think it just got lost... but in regard to a sense rom, is evil's rom like a "quasi" 2.3 (has the look but not the substance of gingerbread) with a 2.2.1 kernel that's just tricked out, updated, etc.?
I am not familiar with kernels being separate from the rom. Why is this done? I am sure the install is not too difficult (considering what I have been through with CM7), but is there a guide here,our should I just comb the threads for an installation overview for the sense roms/kernels?
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Edit: I started reading the thread for evil's rom.. and for now, I think I might go back to stock, and upgrade the kernel. (unless there are really no problems worth the Z port, like ffc or wifi issues). So with that said, which kernel is best for the HD sense stock rom (or which stock rom out there has been enhanced the best with everything still functional)? I know there aren't that many different upgraded stock roms/kernels, but of the ones I found, they seem the same.
Sorry to makes this long but I ask this because I see people with just the stock plus an upgraded kernel, but then also, there is the Orange Glacier which is an enhanced stock rom.... Wouldn't those two packages be virtually identical?
Or am I just letting this kernel factor confuse me?
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Forget it.... I just spent 3 hours in the dev threads.... The nomenclature mess was making my eyes bleed... Orange Glacier, Iced Glacier, Royal Ginger, Royal Mint, Royal Jelly, KY Jelly... %^$#^
So... I retract my earlier decision and I am going to stay on the bleeding edge with CM7... F*ck it if I can't do progressive scan video or get reply notifications to MMS messages sent to CDMA networks!!*
*I just made those two things up... It means to say that the bugs that do exist in CM7 are very arcane and minor... But I am an easy sell so tomorrow I will probably want to go back to sense.
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Good Morining,
I'm new to the HTC world in general, just made the switch from the Epic 4G and looking forward to hit the ground runnning here.
I already have loaded the last update on my phone and got GB, root and all my apps up and running via stock UI.
Now I want to venture to the world of roms and I got much to read (I know) but just wanted a quick down to earth suggestion of what is the common used ROM here, like CM7? or any other good ones.
I don't care much of Sense or if its AOSP, I choose performance over that kind of stuff because there will always be a way to change the view. So any good well tested kernels or roms suggestions would be good.
Thank you to all in advance!
Actually, if you don't care about Sense, CM7 is a great ROM to run.
The main downside to the AOSP ROMs is that you can't use EPST (the dialer codes/update profile/PRL).
A lot of other people are running MikG (Sense), Synergy (Sense), MIUI (AOSP) or Deck's (AOSP).
I usually switch between CM7 nightlies, MikG and Salvage Mod myself.
Good Sense kernels for Gingerbread are Freedom and ChopSuey. Good AOSP kernels include Tiamat and Savaged-Zen.
Hope this helps!
megabiteg said:
Good Morining,
I'm new to the HTC world in general, just made the switch from the Epic 4G and looking forward to hit the ground runnning here.
I already have loaded the last update on my phone and got GB, root and all my apps up and running via stock UI.
Now I want to venture to the world of roms and I got much to read (I know) but just wanted a quick down to earth suggestion of what is the common used ROM here, like CM7? or any other good ones.
I don't care much of Sense or if its AOSP, I choose performance over that kind of stuff because there will always be a way to change the view. So any good well tested kernels or roms suggestions would be good.
Thank you to all in advance!
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nivron said:
Actually, if you don't care about Sense, CM7 is a great ROM to run.
The main downside to the AOSP ROMs is that you can't use EPST (the dialer codes/update profile/PRL).
A lot of other people are running MikG (Sense), Synergy (Sense), MIUI (AOSP) or Deck's (AOSP).
I usually switch between CM7 nightlies, MikG and Salvage Mod myself.
Good Sense kernels for Gingerbread are Freedom and ChopSuey. Good AOSP kernels include Tiamat and Savaged-Zen.
Hope this helps!
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Thanks for the sugestions, I may opt for trying out the kernels first before the Rom, getting lazy with the wipe / reinstall apps right now, but I will check out the Rom threads and keep myself updated for when I'm ready to jump ship
Thanks once again!
I just got my phone couple of days ago, and today had the time to root it. Which is the most popular ROM for this device ?Is it worth to flash a custom ROM ?I mean for someone who needs a stable build ?Can you recommend something ?
Regards!
Cm10.1
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i might be wrong, but is there a stable version of cm10.1 ?
rootkited said:
i might be wrong, but is there a stable version of cm10.1 ?
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As of now, no there is not.
CM 10 is generally the most popular ROM. But when you're here, paranoidandroid is the most popular ROM.
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scream4cheese said:
As of now, no there is not.
CM 10 is generally the most popular ROM. But while you're here, paranoidandroid is the most popular ROM.
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CyanogenMod is always going to be the most stable custom ROM as long as you use the stable releases, simply because it's the most actively attended to and tested one. MIUI, Paranoid Android and Slim Bean come next and have their own perks, but they're just not on the same level.
Glaux said:
CyanogenMod is always going to be the most stable custom ROM as long as you use the stable releases, simply because it's the most actively attended to and tested one. MIUI, Paranoid Android and Slim Bean come next and have their own perks, but they're just not on the same level.
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ok, since there is no stable version of CM10, and I am not so into paranoidandroid, I guess the stock ROM is my only choice...Any custom kernel which works better with the stock ROM ?Without overclocking...I have 1800+ benchmark points in Antutu...Do you recommend smthing else ?
rootkited said:
ok, since there is no stable version of CM10, and I am not so into paranoidandroid, I guess the stock ROM is my only choice...Any custom kernel which works better with the stock ROM ?Without overclocking...I have 1800+ benchmark points in Antutu...Do you recommend smthing else ?
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come on my friend...don't hesitate... you got yourself a nexus 4..! it is made for fhashing such things as roms,kernels etc...! try the latest nightly of cm10.1 and i promise you that you will hardly find any bug..! and remember its android..you are absolutely free...!
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come on my friend...don't hesitate... you got yourself a nexus 4..! it is made for fhashing such things as roms,kernels etc...! try the latest nightly of cm10.1 and i promise you that you will hardly find any bug..! and remember its android..you are absolutely free...!
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well, ok, i will flash it right now the flashing season is starting again ))
rootkited said:
well, ok, i will flash it right now the flashing season is starting again ))
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there you go...! here is my suggestion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2098655
try this rom...
Mr_Comple said:
there you go...! here is my suggestion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2098655
try this rom...
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thanks, downloading and flashing !Feedback asap
Glaux said:
CyanogenMod is always going to be the most stable custom ROM as long as you use the stable releases, simply because it's the most actively attended to and tested one. MIUI, Paranoid Android and Slim Bean come next and have their own perks, but they're just not on the same level.
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not really,
other roms base on the most stable rom in existance, google android, aosp. cm must take this base and make it possible for old, incompatible devices to get their share. thats only possible by extending the living heck out of it. some of it is overlaid, some is not. errors come in naturally, that just happens when you leave the safe path of aosp, hundreds of commits going through gerrit stemming from all kinds of sources. dont get me wrong, cm is an amazing project. but it cant provide the same stability that aosp based roms provide, the same speed and level of customization.
as a developer i can tell you that the software i get from google is flawless, they support me with functioning drivers and blobs, documentation and guidelines. i can literally forget about everything else and go wild, extend and create new stuff that wasnt there before. i will never run into the myriads of problems the cm team is uncovering in their crusade of introducing android to legacy devices - and that in my opinion is their true power.
pps- i see you included MIUI as well. think again. guess which is the worlds biggest rom with millions and millions of users. miui. guess whos the only rom that has on ounce of design credibility. miui. they have done things in their freetime that rival professional products and you can be sure a matias duarte will not go to xda when he's out of ideas, he's taking note when miui drops a release instead. i think you are greatly underestimating them.
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not really,
other roms use aosp, that means they base on the most stable rom in existance, google android. cm must take this base and make it possible for old devices to get their share. thats only possible by extending the living heck out of it. some of it is overlaid, some is not. as long as i was basing on cm there were errors, day after day after day. at some point i became so upset with it that i abandoned the base. if you take a look in their thread you see what i mean. last week it was gps, todays week you cant use the camera, tomorrow its something else. its not their fault, that just happens when hundreds of commits go through their gerrit - you cant possibly evaluate it, thats why release candidates usually arrive when the android version is already outdated.
dont get me wrong, cm is an amazing project. but the reason it traditionally takes a backseat on nexus plattforms is that it cant provide the same stability that aosp based roms provide. it cant provide the same speed and it cant provide the same level of customization. on all other plattforms cm is the unrivaled king, that is true.
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so, which in your opinion is the one to replace stock rom ?
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so, which in your opinion is the one to replace stock rom ?
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Hi,
PARANOIDANDROID
Just kidding... , that said this is a great rom and very very very popular (as your thread title suggests)...
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so, which in your opinion is the one to replace stock rom ?
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thats up to you. try rasbeanjelly, aokp, carbon, liquid, xylon, minco, whatever you want. try cm. they all are unique in one way or another. im not commenting on what you should flash, you'll see what suits you best. i am commenting on the assumption that cm is stable and everything else is less stable which is complete and utter bullsh1t. :laugh:
viking37 said:
Hi,
PARANOIDANDROID
Just kidding... , that said this is a great rom and very very very popular (as your thread title suggests)...
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lol, took me a while to see it
rootkited said:
so, which in your opinion is the one to replace stock rom ?
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paranoid android, just put all the apps back in phone mode and its basically a stock rom with added speed and a few more customizations. plus i like the kernel colors and the custom app colors, very well done
xylon is also great but not personally my favorite, has many customizations and is much like aokp with its own feel
Codefire-X is also one of the most stable and speedy roms out, it and PA are probably my favorite roms right now, and i feel bad its often overlooked, its like aokp with a more stockish feel but faster and stabler at this point
theres also Carbon rom which is made by a few the awesome liquid rom developers, havent tried yet but looks good
Saber Mod looks cool too with its linaro optimizations but as with carbon i havent had time to try it out
there are also some interesting roms like PAC and Rootbox, but those dont really sound like they would appeal to you as much
also keep in mind i mostly prefer the roms in original android development because of the general cleaner feel, but many of the roms in normal android development are also good if you want a bit of a different feel or special tweaks
but whatever you choose, just dont stay on stock you wont regret going with any of these roms over stock
I'm using MMuzzy rom now for some days and is realy good. Is aosp with some optional features i miss in stock rom. I combine it with Trinity four kernel and for now no problems with that combination.
Never like CM or aokp...to much features and never work without problems.
On the road with my Nexus S...
Pa
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mbucks911 said:
paranoid android, just put all the apps back in phone mode and its basically a stock rom with added speed and a few more customizations. plus i like the kernel colors and the custom app colors, very well done
xylon is also great but not personally my favorite, has many customizations and is much like aokp with its own feel
Codefire-X is also one of the most stable and speedy roms out, it and PA are probably my favorite roms right now, and i feel bad its often overlooked, its like aokp with a more stockish feel but faster and stabler at this point
theres also Carbon rom which is made by a few the awesome liquid rom developers, havent tried yet but looks good
Saber Mod looks cool too with its linaro optimizations but as with carbon i havent had time to try it out
there are also some interesting roms like PAC and Rootbox, but those dont really sound like they would appeal to you as much
also keep in mind i mostly prefer the roms in original android development because of the general cleaner feel, but many of the roms in normal android development are also good if you want a bit of a different feel or special tweaks
but whatever you choose, just dont stay on stock you wont regret going with any of these roms over stock
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thanks a lot for the review...i've tried the PA ROM and it just ain't my thang....I will try some other releases
rasbean jelly, fast and stable.