MHL: Lag between phone screen and HDMI TV? - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General

I had the note connected to TV last night and attempted to play Wind Up Knight with a Phonejoy - there is already lag using phonejoy on this game (obvious because the on screen soft buttons light up when pressed) but the connection to TV introduced a very noticable lag that made the game unplayable.
The weird thing is I hadn't noticed this whilst playing Medievil on FPSE.
Can't sayI'm overly impressed with the phonejoy as the analog sticks seem to work more like "zoned" digital controls rather than true analog.
Is this down to the MHL adaptor I've got?
It's one of the small box jobs with short micro usb lead and hdmi socket as opposed to the all in one leads that have the HDMI cable already built in.

Would a non stock ROM (i.e. Cyanogen) have any effect on HDMI lag?

I too get a good amount of lag when playing SuperGnes on my tv. Hopefully someone knows how to fix this.

smashmash said:
I had the note connected to TV last night and attempted to play Wind Up Knight with a Phonejoy - there is already lag using phonejoy on this game (obvious because the on screen soft buttons light up when pressed) but the connection to TV introduced a very noticable lag that made the game unplayable.
The weird thing is I hadn't noticed this whilst playing Medievil on FPSE.
Can't sayI'm overly impressed with the phonejoy as the analog sticks seem to work more like "zoned" digital controls rather than true analog.
Is this down to the MHL adaptor I've got?
It's one of the small box jobs with short micro usb lead and hdmi socket as opposed to the all in one leads that have the HDMI cable already built in.
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Are you running GB or ICS? I've found that the HDMI lag has largely disappeared on ICS, presumably due to ICS's better support of hardware emulation on its dual-core chipset. Also, I used to use Phonejoy before I rooted my phone. Afterwards, I switched to SixAxis and I've found that the response rate is much faster than it was when Phonejoy was connected via Bluez-IME.

I'm running Samsung stock ICS 4.0.3 at the moment.
Samsung 4.0.3 seems very glitchy overall and appears to have introduced a new feature to my phone called "daydreaming"
Honestly sometimes it takes an age to snap out of it...

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HDMI out

Got HDMI out from Korea, works beautifull. (Ebay). Needs charge plugged in!
Information. More need.
ivan552 said:
Got HDMI out from Korea, works beautifull. (Ebay). Needs charge plugged in!
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How much you paid for it, cause i believe th cheapest for these is about 15£, as mentioned in another thread.
I read the charger is needed to keep the battery full, as current tv usb ports are un-powered, but new powered usb tv`s are on the way that do.
I have a crazy idea .. Does anybody know if i plug hdmi out from my phone to my onkyo amp the sound on video playback will be 5.1? Or even play music will this work on the subwoofer unlike using 3.5mm jack. Thanks
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I did some testing with my newly acquired Samsung MHL adapter.
Here are some things i noticed:
Power:
You indeed need to have it plugged in, but you can use a normal computer USB cable to power it. Mind you, that the phone seems to use extra power when running with the adapter, getting more hot. Having it plugged into my PC, i noticed the power drain was high enough that the battery would actually (very) slowly discharge, if i was actively using the phone.
Resolution:
When sitting at the home screen, or any other screen excluding video playback, the picture will be a mirror of the phone. Output is 1080i but the picture is just the 800x480 picture upscaled. This means that you can't really use it to browse webpages in full resolution, and so forth. When doing movie playback, the movie will display in full resolution over hdmi.
Overhead controls will not show on the hdmi output. I've seen this mode active in the standard movie player, and in the youtube player so far. I can test any other apps if i requested. I'm guessing that when the hardware video decoder kicks in, it outputs directly to hdmi.
Unfortunately this also means that when using the gallery to display pictures/video on your TV, video recording will actually display in higher resolution then your pictures! Pictures are just displayed in standard upscaled 800x480, while video displays in full 1920x1080.
Sound:
When in mirror/upscale mode, sound is also "mirrored" to the TV, meaning you can use the phone as a music player or whatever to your stereo. I don't know if it does 5.1 when in video mode, as i only have 2.1 speakers, but i assume that it would.
I noticed one exception to this, which is the FM radio, which sadly only outputs to either headphones, or phone speaker. No option to play it over hdmi.
Let me know if there are any specific things you'd like me to test in regards to this.

What's the Netflix fix?

Does anybody at Mad Catz have a thought on the matter? The hardware should be more than capable of running Netflix on a large screen without audio sync issues. Can you provide a proper app?
Domomojo said:
Does anybody at Mad Catz have a thought on the matter? The hardware should be more than capable of running Netflix on a large screen without audio sync issues. Can you provide a proper app?
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They seem to be more responsive if you write on their Facebook page.
Domomojo said:
Does anybody at Mad Catz have a thought on the matter? The hardware should be more than capable of running Netflix on a large screen without audio sync issues. Can you provide a proper app?
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We're not seeing any audio sync issues here, and going by reports from other users neither is anyone else. What's your complete hardware setup and do you get any sync issues with other programs such as xbmc or YouTube?
I'm just waiting on HD Netflix...Quality on Netflix on MOJO is severely lacking. I don't have any audio problems (at the moment), but the video is very pixelated.
Streaming YouTube and other movie apps in 1080 or 720 works perfectly for me 85% of the time. I'm thinking my few issues with those is because my wireless router just reached 12 years old and is constantly dropping signal.....Going this weekend to buy a new one.
Mad Catz Rich said:
We're not seeing any audio sync issues here, and going by reports from other users neither is anyone else. What's your complete hardware setup and do you get any sync issues with other programs such as xbmc or YouTube?
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TV is an LG 47" LED 120Hz. No audio sync issue with YouTube. Haven't tried xbmc.
Mad Catz Rich said:
We're not seeing any audio sync issues here, and going by reports from other users neither is anyone else. What's your complete hardware setup and do you get any sync issues with other programs such as xbmc or YouTube?
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Here's another thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2595446 with folks talking about the issue.
Mad Catz Rich said:
We're not seeing any audio sync issues here, and going by reports from other users neither is anyone else. What's your complete hardware setup and do you get any sync issues with other programs such as xbmc or YouTube?
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Actually, I was a bit hasty with my previous reply. My hardware set up includes a home theater sound system where the audio loops back through the TV. If I use the TV speaker, the lag is barely noticeable. If I turn off the TV speaker and use the amplifier, there is a very noticeable lag.
Domomojo said:
Actually, I was a bit hasty with my previous reply. My hardware set up includes a home theater sound system where the audio loops back through the TV. If I use the TV speaker, the lag is barely noticeable. If I turn off the TV speaker and use the amplifier, there is a very noticeable lag.
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Yes, I was wondering if there was an amp in the loop, although the fact that it only does it for Netflix is a bit odd. Could you clarify though: are you connecting MOJO into the amp which then passes to the TV or are you connecting into the TV which is then passing audio to the amp (and, if so, what kind of connection? Optical? Phono?). If it is the latter then some amps have settings to accommodate for audio lag.
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Yes, I was wondering if there was an amp in the loop, although the fact that it only does it for Netflix is a bit odd. Could you clarify though: are you connecting MOJO into the amp which then passes to the TV or are you connecting into the TV which is then passing audio to the amp (and, if so, what kind of connection? Optical? Phono?). If it is the latter then some amps have settings to accommodate for audio lag.
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The MOJO is connected directly to the TV via an HDMI cable. Likewise, the amplifier, which is a Sony Model # STR-DH520, is also connected directly to the TV via an HDMI cable. I looked thru the manual and found a "SYNC ON" setting which delays the "output of audio to minimize the time gap between output and visual display" The delay time given is 60ms. I'll play around with it later today and see what impact it has. Maybe I had it on when it should have been off, or vice-a-versa. Thanks for the input on this!
I guess you're using all of the HDMI inputs on the amp already?
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I guess you're using all of the HDMI inputs on the amp already?
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I will confess to having bought the TV and amp, etc., two years ago, and now I don't really remember what led me to make the setup choices I made at the time, but no, I wasn't using all the HDMI inputs on the amp, and frankly, I didn't even check to see if it had available HDMI inputs on the amp when I connected the MOJO. Connecting the MOJO directly into the amp and ensuring the correct A/V sync setting eliminated the delay completely. Thanks!
Mad Catz Rich said:
We're not seeing any audio sync issues here, and going by reports from other users neither is anyone else. What's your complete hardware setup and do you get any sync issues with other programs such as xbmc or YouTube?
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I have audio sync issues too. Audio seems to lag behind the video. And always when I watch netflix, the screen flashes, like gets smaller, idk how to describe it, often when watching shows. No matter what shows I watch it always does this. Probably 20 times at least throughout an hour long show.
mherma said:
I have audio sync issues too. Audio seems to lag behind the video. And always when I watch netflix, the screen flashes, like gets smaller, idk how to describe it, often when watching shows. No matter what shows I watch it always does this. Probably 20 times at least throughout an hour long show.
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If you've read this entire thread, you're aware my problem was similar to yours. I too had seen the occasional screen "flash" when watching Netflix. I'd recommend plugging your MOJO directly into your TV, using the TV's speaker, and eliminating any other hardware that might be in the loop in order to see if the issue truly lies in your MOJO, and is not being caused by some other component. Connecting my MOJO directly to my amp solved all my audio sync issues.
Domomojo said:
If you've read this entire thread, you're aware my problem was similar to yours. I too had seen the occasional screen "flash" when watching Netflix. I'd recommend plugging your MOJO directly into your TV, using the TV's speaker, and eliminating any other hardware that might be in the loop in order to see if the issue truly lies in your MOJO, and is not being caused by some other component. Connecting my MOJO directly to my amp solved all my audio sync issues.
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Mine is directly hooked up thru the TVs HDMI port. No difference if I have anything else plugged into the TV or not
And you're only using the TV's speaker? (rather than then output your TV's audio to an external speaker/amp?)
Are you running the 0110 firmware release and do you see the same issue with other video playback programs?
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And you're only using the TV's speaker? (rather than then output your TV's audio to an external speaker/amp?)
Are you running the 0110 firmware release and do you see the same issue with other video playback programs?
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Yes, using the TV's speaker. My mojo came with the 0110 firmware release. Only Netflix has this issue. Have reset my wireless router to make sure that wasn't the problem either. Mojo is the only hardware hooked up to this tv.
If it would help, I could capture a video of what it's doing on my phone.
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Yes, using the TV's speaker. My mojo came with the 0110 firmware release. Only Netflix has this issue. Have reset my wireless router to make sure that wasn't the problem either. Mojo is the only hardware hooked up to this tv.
If it would help, I could capture a video of what it's doing on my phone.
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I no longer have any audio sync issues, but I do still see the occasional "flash" while watching Netflix. It looks like the image changes sizes for a fraction of a second. Haven't seen it with any other App.
Domomojo said:
I no longer have any audio sync issues, but I do still see the occasional "flash" while watching Netflix. It looks like the image changes sizes for a fraction of a second. Haven't seen it with any other App.
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Yes, that's the same problem I have with Netflix (along with the audio sync issues). It doesn't bother me enough to not watch it but it can be disorienting when watching at nite in a dark room. It does it a lot for me. I notice it the most when scenes change.
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I just got root tonight. I see on the Play Store that I can now update Netflix to the latest version. I will do that and get back to ya'll and see if that changes anything! As soon as I'm done downloading more games....
Ok, so last night I went out and bought a new TV for my MOJO. Picked up a 42" Sharp 1080p 120hz LED. I don't know if it's because this TV is 120hz compared to my 2010 32" Vizio 1080p 60hz, but the Netflix issue has been resolved. No more audio sync issues. I also noticed this TV has a Clear Motion setting, I have it set to on. Not sure if this has something to do with it either. Anyways, it's fixed, for now.
BTW, anyone looking for a deal on a TV of this relative size, it's a steal. Only $399 at Best Buy. The picture is awesome, and 120hz over 60hz is a night and day difference. Much more clear during on screen motion than my old tv. I'm very impressed. I can't imagine how good a 240hz or 480hz set looks like.
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Forgot to mention, the screen flashing/resizing is still happening. Very annoying. I really feel this is an issue with the app itself, hopefully it's getting fixed with an update. Can't wait to start watching in HD aswell...

[Review] Amazon Game Controller 2nd Gen (3.5mm jack) + Kodi

Hey everyone, a few weeks ago I had posted asking for experiences on the audio out feature on the 2nd gen Amazon game controller. I got some answers and I went ahead with my purchase since I was able to get $20 knocked off the retail price. This is my review of watching movies on Kodi while connecting my headphones to the game controller.
Connection
This connects via WiFi Direct. As soon as I inserted my headphone wire into the jack, a small notification appeared on the tv saying that the audio was being sent to the game controller. Once I removed it, sound played from my speakers.
Audio Quality
I felt that the audio quality was decent. Initially, I ran into the issue where the audio was extremely distorted (like the sound was deep and disgusting), but I disconnected the audio cable, restarted the movie, and played at some random part to ensure to the audio quality was good. I then reinserted the cable to the jack and listened. The audio was good. So I restarted the movie and watched. At times, I did feel like the audio wasn't very rich, but it was decent enough for me. Oh and the most important part -- you know how we had to adjust the audio offset in Kodi when we played via bluetooth? Yep, not an issue with the controller. Audio synced perfectly. :good:
Volume
I faced the biggest issue with volume. Kodi doesn't have a volume control option (since all it does is play around with the amplification), and there was nothing on google that I found that helped. Out of desperation, I thought about giving up and just watching something on Sling.tv (an app I downloaded from the app store), and while in the process, I changed the volume. Curious, I went back into Kodi to see if the volume was reduced (since originally the volume was extremely loud), and it was. I went back and forth (thank you FireStarter!) and adjusted the volume to my liking. I didn't have to change the volume throughout the rest of the movie. As a side note, the right stick adjusts the volume in Kodi (since a little popup on the top right appears with a volume bar) -- yeah, that does nothing.
Issues I faced
There was only one issue that sort of fixed itself. When I watch movies on my bed at night, I have a tower fan oscillating about a few feet from the side of the bed. This happened to my bluetooth receiver as well, but there were these noticeable gaps / drops in audio. Sort of like a hiccup. Anyway, I turned off the tower fan and the audio didn't drop. I turned it back on and the audio didn't drop again. It was a weird experience.
It's only been one day, one movie. So I can't say how long the battery will last. Since this will be used primarily for audio, maybe an occasional game or two, I'll keep track of when the battery need replacing.
Overall Thoughts
Strictly speaking, is $50 worth it to listen to audio while on the bed? It depends. Bluetooth is significantly cheaper and it is rechargeable, so you aren't spending a lot of money on AA batteries. I was facing issues with audio while listening using a BT receiver. Audio offsetting wasn't a big deal since I figured out my magical number (+0.375 sec), but the audio gaps really took away from an excellent experience. At retail price, I probably wouldn't go for it. But having received a $20 discount ($10 in GC, $10 in discover promotion), I'm going to keep it.
That's all. HTH.
I just got mine yesterday.
Thoughts.
*very* similar to the xbox360 pad, but quite slippy. Def needs more grip, gonna buy some rubber sticky grips for it from Amazon lol.
The L2/R2 buttons are too much at right angles IMO.
They should be angled in a bit more to fit better.
A bit front heavy
All buttons and thumb sticks feel good.
Sound for me was good through my Bose earbuds.
4/5. just needs wayyy more games.

Problems with voice search and controller/gaming performance

Hello everybody!
I bought my Shield TV this friday for 160 bucks including the controller and the remote control.
But it doesn't work as flawless as I'd like it to.
First of all the voice search is bugging. When I search something via voice it gets recognized very fast but although I have already finished my question/command it won't take any actions. The microphone icon is still pulsing like it's still listening to my voice (although there is none). After some seconds I get told that Google is not available right now or that it didn't understand what I've said (although it did understand). Another few seconds later the result of the my question/command gets shown most of the time anyway (sometimes it doesn't deliver anything). How can I fix this issue? It's very annoying as my tasks would normally take no longer than five seconds including asking the question but with this issue it easily takes 15 seconds...
Another problem I have has to do with the controller and/or the gaming performance. The controller is lagging and has a delay while using it. It doesn't matter whether I'm using it in the system UI or during games, my actions just don't get executed instantly. It's not a huge delay (like a second or something) but veeery annoying nevertheless, especially during games. I tried Modern Combat 5 and Asphalt 8 and both games were not running as smooth as I expected with this hardware and furthermore the delay was killing the fun. Especially in Modern Combat 5 the delay while aming was awful. Additionally not all actions executed with the controller get sent to Shield TV so it misses some actions.
I'm very near to the console (two meters) and nothing is standing in front of it or something. So are there any fixes for these issues?
I hope I was able to make my points clear and also hope you have some solutions for me!
Greetings!
I have the exact same problem
It does that only when searching from the home screen, if i search within an app it works just fine.
When searching from home it just constantly listens
I'm french and i have the same problem. I found that if I switch the search language to English instead of french, I no longer have the problem. Not a solution, but it can be a usefull workaround.
Maybe other languages have the same issue.
Ha, indeed. I'm German and therefore had my language set to German.
When I switch to English the lag is gone and it's working instantly.
Is there anybody using Shield TV with another language than English without the lag?
Also I figured out the part of the gaming lag is drastically reduced when I have set my TV to its gaming setting.
It's quite strange that this improves the issue as there is no problem when using the remote control for Shield. Nevertheless I'm still not completely satisfied as I guess it has to work without any lag at all if it's working without lag when using the remote control.
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Ha, indeed. I'm German and therefore had my language set to German.
When I switch to English the lag is gone and it's working instantly.
Is there anybody using Shield TV with another language than English without the lag?
Also I figured out the part of the gaming lag is drastically reduced when I have set my TV to its gaming setting.
It's quite strange that this improves the issue as there is no problem when using the remote control for Shield. Nevertheless I'm still not completely satisfied as I guess it has to work without any lag at all if it's working without lag when using the remote control.
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So this is completely 100% your TV or AV Receiver. Basically the tv has a ~1sec delay from where Nvidia thinks it is. This is whyt TVs have game settings. your TV is doing processing of the signal to "improve" it. When in Game mode that does not happen. Don't blame nvidia it's all your tv.
But why is it working without any lag when I'm using the remote control?
As I said before, that's what I don't understand. Is it that much of a difference between the remote control and the controller?
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But why is it working without any lag when I'm using the remote control?
As I said before, that's what I don't understand. Is it that much of a difference between the remote control and the controller?
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The remote is bluetooth but the controller is wifi direct. perhaps something is interfering with the controllers wifi, especially since you say you are losing some commands.
Shut off your home wifi, plug your shield into a hardwire network cable(only reliable way to stream 4k anyway), try again.
My controller has zero lag.

Shield TV Black Screen Random Blinking at 4k 60hz

Hi,
I have a Vizio m60 4k Tv. When I connect the shield tv to 4k 60hz HDMI port the screen would randomly blink its as if someone quickly removes the HDMI cable and puts it back in happens in just a second but would happen randomly. If I connect the shield tv to any of the 4k at 30hz ports it works fine but because of 30hz there is lot of input lag when gaming. At 60hz the gaming input lag is gone but get the random blinking issue. Anyone had similar issue and knows a fix? Thanks.
I have the m65-c1 (same tv 65inch screen) and I have the same exact issue. I have not tried it in anything but hdmi-5 for the shield which is the 4k 60hz port. It has made me die playing a game before. It doesn't happen too often but I swear when it does! I am going to swap hdmi cables to see if it stops as I have had this problem with my pasma in the past due to the hdmi cable. I hope that fixes it. Have you done that by chance?
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Sounds like a sub-par cable. I'd start there.
I did some research it is happening with many people who have Vizio 4k Tvs and some 4K samsungs and it is not cable related, check this out: h t t p s: / / forums.geforce.com/default/topic/902526/shield-android-tv/vizio-4k-60hz-tv-hdmi-disconnect-reconnect-problem/
Yes, I can confirm. I have the same issue with my Samsung TV.

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