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Tether or hotspot your laptop all day long like me ?
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/10/t-mobile-reducing-data-cap-will-throttle-speeds-after-5gb-of-usage
Oh no! damn. This sucks.
That's fair. No extra charges.
It is unfortunate, but it was inevitable. As long as there are no extra charges, 5 GB of 3G speed seems fair. Blame everyone who abused their connections >:|
This seems fair, at least its not like 2gb and overage like those poor suckers on ATT
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5 GB on a mobile device is a lot to use. Are you guys streaming HD movies on your phone or somethin??
I agree seems fair. Att is going down hill fast.
FWIW I had 5 gig tehter plan on blackberry as my main internet connection for two months. I came very close but never hit 5 gigs. This was 8 hours a day at work + pleasure.
Id rather have a choice than be stuck with either.
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dude 5gigs is a **** ton... if you are blowing over that every month then you prolly need to look into using wifi a bit more often...
didn't know 10Gb cap.
how slow will it be? i wanna watch streaming video on bed.
Just be glad you're not in the UK, most carriers here limit you to 500Mb now.
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Just be glad you're not in the UK, most carriers here limit you to 500Mb now.
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Oh wow, that would REALLY suck. I definitely go over that easily every month. I have never come close to 5gb though. I'm on AT&T right now with a grandfathered unlimited plan, so I'm ok (for now).
At least the TMO unlimited plan is still unlimited, just at a slower speed once the 5GB is reached. With other carriers charging for overages, I'm not sure how they (the other carriers) can get away with calling it "unlimited".
im guessing this doesnt affect tzones ($5 plan) users... since when i goto my account, even if ive been using over 2gb of data that month, it says ive used zero data... im guessing this is because everything is going through a proxy
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im guessing this doesnt affect tzones ($5 plan) users... since when i goto my account, even if ive been using over 2gb of data that month, it says ive used zero data... im guessing this is because everything is going through a proxy
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wow i never thought of that actually...
can the proxy setting be used for other data plans to bypass this data cap? I normally use 6 to 8gb per month as the tether is my only internet access.
The 5GB limit is fair. At least they don't charge you for overages like ATT. My buddy has a 200MB plan because ATT f-ed him when he tried to grandfather his unlimited data plan from ~3 years ago. Now he makes me turn on my N1's hotspot whenever we hang out.
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Just be glad you're not in the UK, most carriers here limit you to 500Mb now.
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+1
My jaw nearly hit the floor when I read that, and then read people complaining about it
I'm around 1.5-2GB per month right now and don't believe that I'll ever read 5GB unless I start downloading huge files all day! I believe this is the right way to treat customers compared to the "big two's" plan. Also, I'm a loyal T-Mobile customer for 7 years now.
I can live with 5GB limit...but they better never change it again to any lower
Victimized ?
Tomorrow (paintball day heheh) is the throttle day.
Post up if your a victim.
Is there a new tethering policy in place? I read that it was 10 GB before they trottle you but recent artickes suggests it is in fact only 5 GB? When did this happen?
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I hit 10GB last month (don't ask; had to travel a lot and no free wifi access) but never experienced any throttling. I didn't go over by much, but I never got a message and a check on speedtest showed full throughput.
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Thanks for you input, now we know for sure. So, the changes is from 10 GB no throttling to 5 GB with throttling.
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Is there a new tethering policy in place? I read that it was 10 GB before they trottle you but recent artickes suggests it is in fact only 5 GB? When did this happen?
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Happens in 15 mins. 10/16/2010
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Happens in 15 mins. 10/16/2010
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Oh that suck, there goes the only thing good about TMO network.
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Oh that suck, there goes the only thing good about TMO network.
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What about the part where T-mobile doesn't charge more for going over the 5 gb cap?
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What about the part where T-mobile doesn't charge more for going over the 5 gb cap?
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Carrier should be doing that in the first place. A recent FCC ruling made it mandatory for ATT to warn the customer when they are about to go over the limit.
I know I will never use the 10 GB (even though the thread title is tethering limit, I actually do not tether), but having something that I used to have (paying for), ripped out of my hands just like that just doesn't feel good.
We don't have a tethering limit, you can blame those that do tether excessively for the reduction in the limit
I dont understand why T-mobile advertises its internet services as UNLIMITED when they pull stuff like this
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I dont understand why T-mobile advertises its internet services as UNLIMITED when they pull stuff like this
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It's been debated over many time, and I think the general census is that it is "Unlimited Access " but not "Unlimited Usage". You can access the internet when and where you want, which is the general idea.
From what I understand they don't bill you extra or turn you off, they just throttle you (slow you down) .
I saw the number as 5 gigs, kinda a reasonable number in my book. Even if you were tethering that is a big number if you just surfing and checking email. File sharing, big game downloads, and watching lots of videos would be the only way to hit that number.
Just my two cents
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It's been debated over many time, and I think the general census is that it is "Unlimited Access " but not "Unlimited Usage". You can access the internet when and where you want, which is the general idea.
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https://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans...-phone-plan&WT.z_unav=mst_shop_plans_internet
T-mobile clearly has Unlimited DATA per month (and 5gb for webConnect plan) so there is a clear distinction between unlimited and 5gb.
(ps. Please understand I am not arguing/getting mad at you, just at t-mobile for pulling this stuff)
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From what I understand they don't bill you extra or turn you off, they just throttle you (slow you down) .
I saw the number as 5 gigs, kinda a reasonable number in my book. Even if you were tethering that is a big number if you just surfing and checking email. File sharing, big game downloads, and watching lots of videos would be the only way to hit that number.
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It is true, Ill probably never hit that 5gb (I lightly tether, probably, 5 hours a week). But I only tether because my justification is: my data plan costs more than my home internet plan ($30 vs $15) so I try to use it to its full extent. The market for mobile internet is ridiculous..
I swear, prices between data and text message plans is highway robbery. FCC should really do something (beneficial).
/vent
Its unlimited, just not full speed after 5gb.
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It is true, Ill probably never hit that 5gb (I lightly tether, probably, 5 hours a week). But I only tether because my justification is: my data plan costs more than my home internet plan ($30 vs $15) so I try to use it to its full extent. The market for mobile internet is ridiculous..
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Yea, I hear you there, between my wifes phone and my phone we drop alot on mobile internet, and I do tether when needed, but I by no means abuse it, I use about 200 megs a month, through tmoble. I use anywhere from 5 to 60 gigs through my home internet, comcast caps you at 250 gigs a month.
Both companys are just trying to hold up the abusers, file sharing is a major issue, (if I hit anywhere over 10 gigs at home it is because of file sharing)
The abusers are the issue, when one person uses as much as 200 other users it becomes an issue.
I don't agree with it, but I can totally see why they do it. It won't affect 99.99% of user's. And the ones that it does are probably doing things they aren't supposed to.
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Is there a new tethering policy in place? I read that it was 10 GB before they trottle you but recent artickes suggests it is in fact only 5 GB? When did this happen?
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I don't believe T-Mobile ever condoned the use of tethering on any of their devices.
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https://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans...-phone-plan&WT.z_unav=mst_shop_plans_internet
T-mobile clearly has Unlimited DATA per month (and 5gb for webConnect plan) so there is a clear distinction between unlimited and 5gb.
(ps. Please understand I am not arguing/getting mad at you, just at t-mobile for pulling this stuff)
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Pulling what stuff? This has been said before, T-Mobile will allow unlimited usage for their data plan, nothing states that they will not throttle your speeds. If it stated that they didn't in the past and then changed their minds then people would have room to gripe but that isn't the case. If you do not like their service then choose another cellular provider. I think Sprint offers unlimited 4g access when you pay the extra $20 or $25 on top of the fee for the data usage.
I called them abouta year ago when I started tethering on my g1 (of course I didn't tell them that) and they assured me that there is no such limit or charges. It ready is simply unlimited
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I called them abouta year ago when I started tethering on my g1 (of course I didn't tell them that) and they assured me that there is no such limit or charges. It ready is simply unlimited
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The call center reps are not qualified to make that distinction because of their lack of knowledge about the terms of agreement that you had to sign. They will tell you anything to make you happy, that is their job. This is not limited to T-Mobile of course. If you want to a definitive answer then just check your contract. It will state what restrictions there are for the data plan. I had to pull out the contract to make sure I followed the terms of agreement when I was messing with the firmware on a Clear modem they sent me so I could use it with my router and accidentally bricked the modem. I argued for 30 minutes with the rep for a new modem because she believed that messing with firmware for the modem constituted to abusive use of their devices without stating what is abusive use. She sounded pretty new to the job too.
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Pulling what stuff? This has been said before, T-Mobile will allow unlimited usage for their data plan, nothing states that they will not throttle your speeds. If it stated that they didn't in the past and then changed their minds then people would have room to gripe but that isn't the case. If you do not like their service then choose another cellular provider. I think Sprint offers unlimited 4g access when you pay the extra $20 or $25 on top of the fee for the data usage.
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Believe me, if most of my friends & family had AT&T, I would've jumped ship a longggg time ago (would've also been much happier & easier on the wallet with the 200mb $15 data plan).
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Believe me, if most of my friends & family had AT&T, I would've jumped ship a longggg time ago (would've also been much happier & easier on the wallet with the 200mb $15 data plan).
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Nothing is stopping you or your family and friends from changing providers. That is why there is a free market, don't like on service provider go to the next and so on and so forth. I am not trying to cause an argument, but the old adage, you can't have one's cake and eat it too, applies here.
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I swear, prices between data and text message plans is highway robbery. FCC should really do something (beneficial).
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They are not doing much because (which I just learned the other day) that taxes on cell phone usage (monthly plan) where I live is stunning 18%.
FCC probably want your bill to be as high as possible.
Now, this thread isn't really about tethering, I started because of the fact that T-mobile is reducing the amount from 10 GB to 5 GB. I understand the fair use policy so an artificial cap is fine with me, but don't lower the cap for everyone just because a few people are tethering to their phone, scale those who use more and charge them more.
Now, you might ask: If you never needed more bandwidth, why do you care?
There's distinction of being punished because you did something wrong yourself and there's being punished as a group because of someone else' mistake. If I can have 10 GB a month, I want to keep it at 10 GB a month irregardless of whether I used it up, it's the principle that counts: I signed up knowing there's 10 GB a month of bandwidth and it needs to stay that way.
Is this for customers that sign up after this rule was in effect? Or all tmobile customers including existing customers?
Sone people I know get throttled @ 5gb. Others hit 30 gigs with no throttle. They say cause it don't effect existing customers, is this true? Thanks in advance
Damn this probably should have went in general. My bad yall..
I believe that existing customers are not effected. In the UK tmo is lowering there cap to 50mb (yes that's megabytes) they released a statement that said that existing customers would be un affected and new contracts would
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I'm not certain, but I do think it is for new and old customers.
Does it qualify as a material change to your contract? I don't know about that either, material changes might only apply to changes in fees. Anyway, there is a limited time after a material change to a contract to get out without an ETF.
IF you find the answer about new vs old customers, let us know.
I've been a customer for over 5 years and got the text last week. I have a screenshot but it wont let me upload..(yet?)
So it looks like it don't matter how long ya been with em.. darn.
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I've been a customer for over 5 years and got the text last week. I have a screenshot but it wont let me upload..(yet?)
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Have you changed your plan since oct. 10 when the plan took effect?
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Have you changed your plan since oct. 10 when the plan took effect?
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Good question. I may have added a text plan to my wifes non android device.
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I've been a customer for over 5 years and got the text last week. I have a screenshot but it wont let me upload..(yet?)
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Good question. I may have added a text plan to my wifes non android device.
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Ahhh I think that's the culprit, people changing their plans are getting effected no matter how long they been with tmobile.... Thanks again
Never been throttled, easily hit 50+ gigs every month.
It is my only internet connex so I tether.....alot
Been with Tblowbile for easy 4 years, maybe 5 ?
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Never been throttled, easily hit 50+ gigs every month.
It is my only internet connex so I tether.....alot
Been with Tblowbile for easy 4 years, maybe 5 ?
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I'm assuming you haven't recently changed your plan or added anything?
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I believe that existing customers are not effected. In the UK tmo is lowering there cap to 50mb (yes that's megabytes) they released a statement that said that existing customers would be un affected and new contracts would
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I believe it is 500mb across the pond. Which is bad enough. 50 is like 5 min of HD YouTube.
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I believe it is 500mb across the pond. Which is bad enough. 50 is like 5 min of HD YouTube.
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Yea I believe its 500 mb there... Poor guys
I bought my Vibrant w/ a 2 year extension in August. Haven't touched my plan at all since then. I was throttled 2 months ago.
It's for both old and new customers. Then again, I was tethering. They probably know when you're tethering and throttle those people because they have a tether plan they wanna sell.
Are the people not being throttled just using 5gb+ on their device only?
I bought the phone the first day on an upgrade from tmo. I still have the "unlimited" txt and web for 35 dollars from my g1. I started getting the txts in nov.
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I bought my Vibrant w/ a 2 year extension in August. Haven't touched my plan at all since then. I was throttled 2 months ago.
It's for both old and new customers. Then again, I was tethering. They probably know when you're tethering and throttle those people because they have a tether plan they wanna sell.
Are the people not being throttled just using 5gb+ on their device only?
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My buddy uses about 30 gb a month, tethering and all. He hasn't gotten a text yet...
He's a lucky dude. I got the text after 6gb.
I got throttled about 2 months ago. Been with tmo for years. I was dl'ing rom and torrents through 3g. Now all my data intensive apps are set to wifi only. Live & learn. But I think everytime you upgrade you're essentially signing a new contract which may or may not have new terms.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
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I believe it is 500mb across the pond. Which is bad enough. 50 is like 5 min of HD YouTube.
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That was a typo lol I meant to say 500
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My buddy uses about 30 gb a month, tethering and all. He hasn't gotten a text yet...
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does he still have the old $20 android plan or the $25 (or $30 for unlimited) android plus text plan? that may be the difference.
What I forgot to add to my first post is that if you sign a contract for 2 years that says you have 5gb before you are throttled and 6 months into it they change there data plans to cap at 3gb you will be unaffected by the change until you renew your contract
They are required to uphold there end of the contract for the full term so once you sign up for a new contract you are signing up for a 3gb contract or whatever is available at the time.
I'm currently on a month to month plan so I'm not contracted anything that t-mobile decides to do I'm going to be effected regardless of my current standing.
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I'm on the 2yr contract with 1 GB of data, noticed on Telus site they were giving a bonus 1GB for the same price, went in this morning and had them switch it... now get 2 GB for $30.....
I feel like I use my data all the time.
And am always surprised when I look at my history online and see I've only been using about 2GB each month.
I do get spikes up to 7GB or more every once in awhile. But usually only when I've been watching Netflix.
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I'm on the 2yr contract with 1 GB of data, noticed on Telus site they were giving a bonus 1GB for the same price, went in this morning and had them switch it... now get 2 GB for $30.....
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I don't know how long you have been with Telus but you might be able to negotiate a retention's plan. I have a retentions plan with Fido and I get 6GB of data for $30.
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I don't use that service but thank you for sharing! I'll share the news myself with others that do use that service!
My apologies as this isnt really device specific although I do use a Note 3 with ATT. I have had a family plan for at least 8 years now, and have always been on unlimited plan for my line (Im the acct holder). Yesterday I logged into my account to see that it was now a '10gb Family Shared Plan'. I call them up and they can't tell me why or how this changed but will be looking into it.
Ironically last month was the first time I surpassed the 5gb throttle limit. Its almost as though they are purposely downgrading my plan.
Anyways not too happy about this and hopefully its a relatively smooth transition back. Just annoyed this 'randomly' happened. Has anyone else experienced something like this lately?
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My apologies as this isnt really device specific although I do use a Note 3 with ATT. I have had a family plan for at least 8 years now, and have always been on unlimited plan for my line (Im the acct holder). Yesterday I logged into my account to see that it was now a '10gb Family Shared Plan'. I call them up and they can't tell me why or how this changed but will be looking into it.
Ironically last month was the first time I surpassed the 5gb throttle limit. Its almost as though they are purposely downgrading my plan.
Anyways not too happy about this and hopefully its a relatively smooth transition back. Just annoyed this 'randomly' happened. Has anyone else experienced something like this lately?
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Have you been tethering? I've heard of it happening when excessive tethering was used without a tethering plan. I was warned once. I dont risk it anymore. I love my family unlimited too much.
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Have you been tethering? I've heard of it happening when excessive tethering was used without a tethering plan. I was warned once. I dont risk it anymore. I love my family unlimited too much.
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No, never tether. I only used 5 gigs last month because I got a new car with bluetooth (yeh, welcome to the 21st century right! lol) and stream for 2 hours a day since i commute a lot. I probably used just over 5gigs though as I got the text notifying me of my usage just days before the end of the billing cycle.
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No, never tether. I only used 5 gigs last month because I got a new car with bluetooth (yeh, welcome to the 21st century right! lol) and stream for 2 hours a day since i commute a lot. I probably used just over 5gigs though as I got the text notifying me of my usage just days before the end of the billing cycle.
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That is unusual then. Hopefully it was a mistake. I've gone over 5gb a few times. My daughter did 12gb once. I mean it's unlimited. Right?
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That is unusual then. Hopefully it was a mistake. I've gone over 5gb a few times. My daughter did 12gb once. I mean it's unlimited. Right?
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Sprint was "unlimited" too though Look where that got me
Does the 10gb plan include tethering? I might switch if it does, I have unlimited but hardly ever go over 1gb...
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Does the 10gb plan include tethering? I might switch if it does, I have unlimited but hardly ever go over 1gb...
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It does and it's actually cheaper per month.
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Actually everyone on family share plan with 10 or more gig data automatically got switched over, I had mine changed to it and the lady told me everyone would be switched over automatically. I'm sure they will switch u back, but we're probably hoping people would be willing to sacrifice unlimited for cheaper overall.
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Here's a few things to note.
Unlimited is not called Unlimited anymore. It's called Unlimited access, but will be throttled at 3gb.
If you tether, you will be notified by text that you will be switched to a tethering plan the next month. (had this happen lol)
AT&T can switch you of unlimited anytime they like, read the fine print contact.
On a side note, I was on unlimted until they keep throttling me. Coming off that slow unlimited access made life better for me.
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I still don't understand why people on ATT are trying to cling on to their Unlimited data. The people on Verizon have good enough reasons to (Verizon doesn't throttle or get pissy if you consume 10s of gigs per month, for now anyway). But on ATT your Unlimited plans are basically pointless at this point. After 3-4GB, your data essentially becomes useless after the throttle. For all intents and purposes, you can't tether. And it's actually cheaper to get access to more high-speed data every month on the newer plans. They literally made switching over to limited data a much better deal (or made keeping Unlimited a worse one, depending on how you look at it).
Just switched mine, got 10gb, tethering included and actually cheaper.
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nawh..not so much
hoping my crocodile mouth don't get my humming bird @SS in trouble
Yeah I gave up my unlimited long time ago. 10GB shared data is more than enough.
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Keeping unlimited.
The catch is that if you go on the shared minutes planes, your phones are no longer subsidized... So if you upgrade your phones every two years, the cost ends up being the same, if not greater when paying monthly for the phones. This in my calculations is about a wash in terms of cost, however you do not get to keep your phones at the end. These are great plans if you byop however.
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The catch is that if you go on the shared minutes planes, your phones are no longer subsidized... So if you upgrade your phones every two years, the cost ends up being the same, if not greater when paying monthly for the phones. This in my calculations is about a wash in terms of cost, however you do not get to keep your phones at the end. These are great plans if you byop however.
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You keep your phone, just pay the remainder off. 9 out of 10 times phone has scratches, which means no giving it to therm. The thing is, you might pay the same amount in the long run (I won't because I'm saving $120 per month which equals $1440 in a year, at end of year I only owe $248 left on phone. Which leaves me with $1192 in savings.) Then I get another upgrade, which is every 12 months instead of 24. Plus no upgrade or activation fees. So tell me where this is a bad deal for me at all?
Oh and by the way its not shared minutes, in fact is unlimited talk and text.
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You keep your phone, just pay the remainder off. 9 out of 10 times phone has scratches, which means no giving it to therm. The thing is, you might pay the same amount in the long run (I won't because I'm saving $120 per month which equals $1440 in a year, at end of year I only owe $248 left on phone. Which leaves me with $1192 in savings.) Then I get another upgrade, which is every 12 months instead of 24. Plus no upgrade or activation fees. So tell me where this is a bad deal for me at all?
Oh and by the way its not shared minutes, in fact is unlimited talk and text.
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It sounds like a better deal for you for sure. The way i'm set up to switch to next save me only $20/month before taxes. I have four lines so I get 2 upgrades a year. So I pay 240 more per year plus about 200 for each phone. This equals 640 a year with two phones. If the average phone on next is 30 a month, then there is the wash. My minutes are not unlimited, but on all lines mobile to mobile is unlimited and I rarely use more than 300. Plus they roll over so I have lots banked. Texting is also unlimited. Plus I can sell the phones at the end (I never do, though, and have 8 phones to sell or get rid of of you include the 2 phones each of my two children have to play on).
I guess how good of a deal next is depends on how good of a deal you had before. ...
They're absolute garbage. I had a 1GB family plan (you know, wifi everywhere and I never even pass that 1GB at all), so.i called them up to see why my bill was a little high then this girl was telling me that she has a better plan for me. 2GB for $5 less. I was like "hell yeah. Switch up now". Next bill was $15 over. LOL
Called them up again and downgraded back to my ole 1GB. I don't know why the lying. Do they really think people are that stupid? If you ever call them, first thing you wanna do is ask the employee about their ID number. Just say " I'd like your ID number". They can't say no. They'll get in trouble. So when an employee screws you over you just call them and ask for a manager and tell them about the employee that did it and give them the number to identify him/her. Other than that names don't work.
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I gave up my unlimited plan for the 10gig plan a month ago, I added my dad's phone to the data and we are saving $80 a month now over the old plan and no more throttle or tethering is gtg without root. I'm actually pleased.
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Att almost had me, I was about to let go of my unlimited data, I wasn't gonna save much since I wabted the 20 gb shareplan, but then I found out about the scam, I have 5 lines, sounded good to only pay 15 for each additional but how about when my mother in law wants to update for some 50 dollar renovate contract new smartphone, she never gets the most expensive, the point is that If I later want to upgrade for the best cheap offer new phone then it rises 25 for each line so instead of 228 that I pay I will end up paying 328, or if I get the next for every account, lets see at least 27 a month for 5 lines, wow arround 360, now how in hell thats gonna save me money.
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oh and I alone use arround 12gb a month.
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Because when you threaten to leave they knock it right to the $15, seen it happen a lot already.
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