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So as my old thread kinda pointed out before, the Samsung slider Verizon was getting was awfully similar to our Epics in appearance. And guess what? it is real and it's being released soon. So what I found to be interesting about it is that it runs on the exact same hardware as the Epic! Well, that is, excluding the processor -__- while we have a single core 1ghz processor, the Verizon slider will sport a dualcore 1.2ghz processor. The real reason behind this post is this: this to me sounds like the closest sibling our Epic has in the Galaxy S family thus far, so with the processors being the only real difference, will we be able to port anything from it over to the Epic and/or will their source help us in any way to further advance development on our Epics? Hmmm...
http://www.mydaily-gadget.com/news/...g-stratosphere-fcc-release-date-verizon-specs
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Well, that one would hurt. So, they have a stable, problem free Cingerbread on that phone already? EDIT..it doesn't say that's going to be dual core for certain. They are comparing the stats of the Galaxy S2
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Well, that one would hurt. So, they have a stable, problem free Cingerbread on that phone already? EDIT..it doesn't say that's going to be dual core for certain. They are comparing the stats of the Galaxy S2
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So there still might be some hope for us afterall. The mandatory 18 month support deal google is enforcing now means that this Verizon slider will hopefully get up to ICS, and if we can hopefully find something useful from it ( like port some of its ROMs, kernels, use some of its source) then we might have a shot at extending the Epics "life" right? I'm being hopeful because as bad as I want to jump ship to a new device, I'm not ready to give up my physical keyboard just yet.
EDIT: ok, just reread it JC and your right. As of now, all the hardware specs coincide with our Epics, the processor it will be porting is yet to be announced. It does say it'll be a "budget phone" in another article I read, so considering high end devices at the moment are sporting dual core processor 1.2ghz and up, I'm willing to be it will also be a 1ghz single core like ours
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Well, that one would hurt. So, they have a stable, problem free Cingerbread on that phone already? EDIT..it doesn't say that's going to be dual core for certain. They are comparing the stats of the Galaxy S2
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Unfortunately I wouldn't doubt it. The Galaxy S line(Not 2) was handled horribly. We should have been like Samsungs personal nexus line with support and updates, but not a single phone got that. Which isn't bad in all truth. But it could have went better with ICS coming soon.
Also aren't we still within 18 months? It's been a year but not too much over it.
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Yeah especially if we were basically Samsung's testers for Gingerbread on another similar device. I don't know enough about development to know if ROMs could be easily ported from it
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Everything I saw about the stratosphere showed it to be exactly like the epic, just for VZW. Been waiting for it as my girlfriend has VZW and her renewal is this month. And the leaked pics I've seen of it show 2.3.4, so maybe if we're lucky we'll see the source for that and can put something together from it if we don't see official GB released by then..
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Unfortunately I wouldn't doubt it. The Galaxy S line(Not 2) was handled horribly. We should have been like Samsungs personal nexus line with support and updates, but not a single phone got that. Which isn't bad in all truth. But it could have went better with ICS coming soon.
Also aren't we still within 18 months? It's been a year but not too much over it.
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The 18 month support policy wasn't being enforced until just recently so our Epic's, I'm guessing, won't get further than GB (officially speaking of course) Korey also stated that GB would be the final "dying breath" of the Epic support wise. So this could be our final chance at a big helping hand in development...
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Highly doubt this will be relevant at all. Thinking there will be similarities in driver code is akin to thinking there was going to be similarities in our epics and other galaxy s's. And we all know how well that turned out.
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Highly doubt this will be relevant at all. Thinking there will be similarities in driver code is akin to thinking there was going to be similarities in our epics and other galaxy s's. And we all know how well that turned out.
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Well what this handset has that the rest of the other handsets dnt is the hardware keyboard which I heard was a problem devs had a rough time with considering the other galaxy s counter parts had no hardware keyboard. Also, the rest of the hardware matches perfectly, all we need is the processor to be announced. I'm thinking this handset will help us out a bit somehow, but then again, I'm no dev, so take my "hopefulness" with a grain of salt
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QUOTE=squshy 7;17522647]Highly doubt this will be relevant at all. Thinking there will be similarities in driver code is akin to thinking there was going to be similarities in our epics and other galaxy s's. And we all know how well that turned out.
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Try not to get too excited, the article that the op posted mentioned that that this phone may be Verizons gsII contender. The only thing that may be similar is the cameras. Then again that's what we said about the nexus s...
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QUOTE=squshy 7;17522647]Highly doubt this will be relevant at all. Thinking there will be similarities in driver code is akin to thinking there was going to be similarities in our epics and other galaxy s's. And we all know how well that turned out.
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Try not to get too excited, the article that the op posted mentioned that that this phone may be Verizons gsII contender. The only thing that may be similar is the cameras. Then again that's what we said about the nexus s...
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Accidently thanked you...
The camera will be different(1.3megapixel ffc) we have a .3megapixel
The keyboard however will be the same, 4 android butttons 4 capacitive android buttons 4" screen, the 5megapixel cam the same.
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I think it will be similar. Verizon rehashed the Evo a little less than a year later. Verizon only has 1 dual core 4G phone. Finally, Verizon said they weren't getting a GSII variant and if this was dualcore, it would probably be considered a GSII variant just like the epic is.
Well they also have a better screen because they have a super amoled plus instead of a super amoled so they don't have to deal with weird subpixels.
Epic 4G, is that you?
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Well I guess best we can do at this point Is hope we can pull some dev off this device. But hey. hope is better then nothing.
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Well I guess best we can do at this point Is hope we can pull some dev off this device. But hey. hope is better then nothing.
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Yeah, that would work as well. In any case, even if their source or porting any of their stuff doesn't help us, their device community would still be of great value to us.
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What are the stages where this is at right now? Fully usable? Still Alpha? I currently have a Galaxy S2 and love it, but it is big and I really want ICS. Is ICS helping with battery life at all? What are people experiencing performance/battery wise? Things like data speeds? Is image quality any better on the device?
Thanks!
Another ICS thread? Ever thought about joining one of the other 10 threads on this subject and actually read what others have been already saying about it.
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Lol
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The ICS dev threads have hundreds, if not thousands of posts. Makes it hard to find information. I don't currently have the phone so it makes it hard for me.
Real simple is to jump to the end of a ics dev thread and read the posts backwards. You will see the most recent info. In short the rom I am running is very smooth, few things need tinkering with to get them working, no 4g but that is expected with a non nexus 4g source. I will also say that after using a ics rom as a daily driver since last weekend the rest of the world who are waiting on ics for their device will not be disappointed when it finally gets there. As far as the battery life goes I have had the best daily usage out of my nexus as ever, true story.
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My home screen for a taste. Taken with the built in screen shot per google.
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When everyone says 4G, they mean Sprint, right? I have T-Mo so would HSPA+ work?
well there are roms being developed for all variants of the nexus s. But yes I have the nexus s 4g on sprint.
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I'm not sure about hspa+, isn't that just t-mobiles way of saying 4g? Like lte and wimax? If so then I doubt the ability to connect to it works without the official sources being released by google yet.
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There are a few daily use status versions out now IMO
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Tmo 3g and 4g are really the same technology
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My home screen for a taste. Taken with the built in screen shot per google.
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i noticed your wifi and mobile signals aren't full, like the rest of us 3G Nexus S users!
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i noticed your wifi and mobile signals aren't full, like the rest of us 3G Nexus S users!
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Sprint or T-Mo?
Sprints 4g? Idont think so
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Tmo 3g and 4g are really the same technology
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Excuse all the thread police. Apparently some on here have OCD and treat the threads like their personal panty drawr (nice and neat). But to answer your question: ICS is pretty far along on the device, battery is better than ginger, performance has the potential to be better when source drops (right now it's faster sometimes and slower at others), data speeds are about the same, and image is great. In all, the ports we have are daily drivers for MANY, including myself. Although most of the bugs seem to have been ironed out, I can see there is still a lot of potential. Our DEVS are pretty gangster so we will surely see much more progression.
I agree but keep in mind that Ginger was developed fromour phones CPU. Hummingbird. In which why if runs so fluid. Ics is for the what's ever in the galaxy nexus. No other phone will run ics smoother than the gn as no other phone had ever beaten this on Ginger.
My point is that we need source code so we can make a ron with other elements intwined to the framework. Show me how to sign a Tom and I'll. Dev the crap out of it
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I'm using Brainmaster's V2 and it's a daily for sure. I haven't updated because I use A2DP a lot, and the newer versions built off of Koush's rom lose that.
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i noticed your wifi and mobile signals aren't full, like the rest of us 3G Nexus S users!
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So your signal bars are lying?
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Hi guys, any idea when we should receive official update?
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So your signal bars are lying?
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yes most of the roms on ICS for i9020/23 (3G) are lying.
seems like ALL of the 4G Nexus S is working. I found an updated radio image i9020xxki1, but i didn't have the guts to flash it to see if it works.
http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/12/02/05/0422238/google-pulls-support-for-cdma-devices
Holy crap. This seems really bad. At least for those of us on sprint and looking forward to future development. Unless I'm just an idiot and missing something lol.
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Holy crap. This seems really bad. At least for those of us on sprint and looking forward to future development. Unless I'm just an idiot and missing something lol.
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Yea, that's bad. Basically it boils down to this scenario:
Google: Sure you can have ICS on ____ device
CDMA carrier Sprint/Verizon: Well, we'd like over our skin on ICS
Google: We'd like to keep it stock Google
Carriers: We want the skin...
Google: No [and cue that article]
Says its based on the software to make it 'fully functional' Because CDMA device needs carrier binaries to make them work.
There is no way in hell US carriers will open up their binary drivers. This just hurts users on Verizon/Sprint. Does this mean the next Nexus will be GSM only?
man sprint always f##kin up
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man sprint always f##kin up
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Who said it was Sprint only? It ranges to all CDMA made phones not one specific CDMA carrier.
My understanding is that this is Google only.
It has to do with the trying to keep Android compliant with the GPL, and the companies making the CDMA radios are making it difficult so Google pulled out. It doesn't mean no more Android phones on Sprint or Verizon (that would be a bit silly) but it does mean no more Nexus phones on CDMA. It could also mean Motorola will be pulling out of the CDMA market as well.
Then again, this could all be a plan by Google to force the companies to release the drivers. It wouldn't be the first time Google has played hardball with companies. If Google and Motorola both leave, this puts pressure on Sprint and Verizon to push the manufacturers to release the drivers as it leaves them at a severe disadvantage compared to GSM carriers. It's good in a way, but could have some bad consequences down the road if it backfires.
It's nothing to really worry about guys if i can find the article I'll post it but Google came back and clarified why they did it exactly and it was to do with how CDMA phones have certain files stored for them and it caused an issue with compiling from AOSP and all. They still are pushing straight updates to cdma nexus phones as usual too.
Edit: here's one part for the mean time...
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21topic/android-contrib/phz3S5ZdveU
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Found this on Google Groups
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It's nothing to really worry about guys if i can find the article I'll post it but Google came back and clarified why they did it exactly and it was to do with how CDMA phones have certain files stored for them and it caused an issue with compiling from AOSP and all. They still are pushing straight updates to cdma nexus phones as usual too.
Edit: here's one part for the mean time...
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/android-contrib/phz3S5ZdveU.com
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I only quoted this to add .com to the end lol (makes it easier from mobile). Can't get damn page to load.
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Found this on Google Groups
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wow! I just got lost in the rabbit hole for 2hrs on that one lol. Thanks for the find, though.
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My understanding is that it's only a signing issue. It should be resolved
I really appreaciate everyone here in the EVO4g thread. Today my EVO lost its charging port, pretty much feel off the motherboard, and will not charge or connect to the computer anymore. I will be going to the Galaxy Nexus come Sunday hopefully. I did the buy up program and will begetting an early upgrade with LTE baby. Will miss DECK, Ropodope, TommyT, MYN and Mik.
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I really appreaciate everyone here in the EVO4g thread. Today my EVO lost its charging port, pretty much feel off the motherboard, and will not charge or connect to the computer anymore. I will be going to the Galaxy Nexus come Sunday hopefully. I did the buy up program and will begetting an early upgrade with LTE baby. Will miss DECK, Ropodope, TommyT, MYN and Mik.
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Good Luck and Enjoy.
marcusva79 said:
I really appreaciate everyone here in the EVO4g thread. Today my EVO lost its charging port, pretty much feel off the motherboard, and will not charge or connect to the computer anymore. I will be going to the Galaxy Nexus come Sunday hopefully. I did the buy up program and will begetting an early upgrade with LTE baby. Will miss DECK, Ropodope, TommyT, MYN and Mik.
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Sorry to see you Marcus, you've been a great asset to the evo community. Too bad you couldn't hold out till June for the LtEVO.
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I'm in the same boat, but my charging port fell out last year With sprints TEP now being $11, (starting in June) I'm wondering which phone will be more durable, the Galaxy Nexus or Evo 4g LTE?
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I have been thinking on the EVO lte but I am not really fond of Sense anymore.
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I have been thinking on the EVO lte but I am not really fond of Sense anymore.
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Same here man. I don't remember the last time I used an EVO Sense ROM. I will probably be joining you.
Hope I will see some familiar faces soon.
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Hope I will see some familiar faces soon.
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I'm gona be on that galaxy S III train, for sure.
Offically have the Galaxy Nexus. Love it!
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Offically have the Galaxy Nexus. Love it!
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What persuaded you to go that route vs. the EVO LTE? I mean, Sense is way toned down with the new 4.0, and seems to not do much but enhance the experience. Just want to point out that I haven't ran a Sense ROM in about 6 months either, but the new version seems nice, and the hardware on the LTE is absolutely sick!
Anyway, I'm asking because I'm in the Nexus vs. EVO LTE vs. GSIII boat right now...
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I have been thinking on the EVO lte but I am not really fond of Sense anymore.
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I really like the HTC hardware, but haven't used sense in forever. Conundrum. Hopefully the Evo will get AOSP/CM/AOKP right quick.
Congrats on your new phone. I'll miss your posts of battery use screenshots lol
Enjoy your nexus. Thanks for what you've done here.
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My brother has the nexus and I really liked it. I hardly used any sense widgets and any sense apps. Just mainly downloaded them from the market. Sense 4.O could be good. I'm fine with what I got
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LTeVO
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To weigh in here, we are on XDA right? A development site. And considering htc has unlockable bootloaders there is plenty to be done for making any device what you want. Sooooo why not just go for specs?
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To weigh in here, we are on XDA right? A development site. And considering htc has unlockable bootloaders there is plenty to be done for making any device what you want. Sooooo why not just go for specs?
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To weigh in here, we are on XDA right? A development site. And considering htc has unlockable bootloaders there is plenty to be done for making any device what you want. Sooooo why not just go for specs?
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Go check the other evolte threads where scottspa quoted toastch from the twrp thread in the onex forum. HTC has forked up the unlock so badly you cannot flash firmware once unlocked, USB connection is unavailable in recovery mode so you can't flash the boot partition, system partition meaning without and exploit to gain s-off access to the bootloader the htcdev unlock is essentially useless for flashing roms/radios, any kind of p*img.zip, onlyway to flash any kind of upgrades currently is thru an ruu. HTC locking their bootloaders and giving a halfassed unlock method as some kind of joke/tease is why I currently will not purchase another HTC device. I'm not giving my money to a company who claims to support developers by giving them a halfcocked useless tool to unlock what shouldn't be locked in the firstplace. Samsung doesn't lock the bootloader they just implemented a flash count that triggers anytime you flash an unsecured kernel, its easily reset using a USB jig or if you're on ics an app called triangle away by chainfire. Rooting is as simple as running a prerooted firmware thru Odin/heimdall and Samsung is now releasing source prior to the ota and are dropping updates as quickly as they are stable. After I had a Samsung intercept as my first android device Samsung left a bad taste in my mouth and I went to the HTC evo, as if had several HTC winmo phones and liked them. Then I was given an ET4G sprints version of the sgs2 and realized how much of an improvement Samsung has made in the 2 years since I had my intercept. Now HTC goes and forks around with the monkey business of locking the bootloader then giving an unlock method thats about as useful as a broken key to your front door, so now you gotta spend alot of time and effort attempting to break in your own Backdoor with out damaging anything
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Hello,
I'm thinking about upgrading from my Galaxy Nexus to the G2. I'd get the N5, but that doesn't seem like a possibility on Verizon. Naturally, I'm accustomed to strong Dev support. Based on past Dev support for LG phones (aside from the N4), what can we expect as far as support? Will there be regularly updated custom ROMs, particularly AOSP based? How long can we expect for CM 10.2 support - and then for CM upgrades to new Android versions?
I appreciate everyone's knowledge in this matter - it will play a big part in my decision whether to get the G2.
Devs are working but I think it's to early to tell. The phone had only been out just over a week.
I came from a GNex as well but I'm happy with just rooting at this point, don't mind UX.
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I'm running cm 10.1 alpha rt now on Verizon
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