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Just to let you know:
For all the users in Europe, the HD2 with Android seems to be the only chance to get some kind of a light version of the "HTC EVO 4G". In fact, there wouldn't be that much difference.
The Motorola Milestone (= your "Droid") has not only a signed bootloader wich only accepts signed images, it also has a hughe bug in audio quality.
And the Desire (= 99% your Nexus one) has a crappy screen! (due to the Pentile Matrix of the AMOLED Display)
Alternatives? NO! At least nothing in the "Nexus class".
Android on the HD2 would not only be a "geek hack" or just "fun". It would be something awesome and insane, no other product or money could give you (at least in Europe, where we might never see the EVO 4G)
I and a big bunch of other users here, "over the pond", really, really hope, the XDA Devs will make it!
My honest respect and good luck to all the Devs who might bring a second Christmas Day into 2010 with Android on the HD2.
This is not limited to the fine folks on the other side of the pond. I'm in the states with an HD2 (duh) on T-Mo. Not to say T-mo is the end all beat all, buy I really don't wan't to go Sprint. Nothing against the Sprint network, as my professional experience shows it's as good if not superior to T-Mo in my area of travel.
Still, I would love to have an android device that's fully functional. And since I have not the technical where-with-all, I rely, as usual, on the brains here at XDA.
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Just to let you know:
For all the users in Europe, the HD2 with Android seems to be the only chance to get some kind of a light version of the "HTC EVO 4G". In fact, there wouldn't be that much difference.
The Motorola Milestone (= your "Droid") has not only a signed bootloader wich only accepts signed images, it also has a hughe bug in audio quality.
And the Desire (= 99% your Nexus one) has a crappy screen! (due to the Pentile Matrix of the AMOLED Display)
Alternatives? NO! At least nothing in the "Nexus class".
Android on the HD2 would not only be a "geek hack" or just "fun". It would be something awesome and insane, no other product or money could give you (at least in Europe, where we might never see the EVO 4G)
I and a big bunch of other users here, "over the pond", really, really hope, the XDA Devs will make it!
My honest respect and good luck to all the Devs who might bring a second Christmas Day into 2010 with Android on the HD2.
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oh god... please dont say its not that much of a diffrense... thats the most retarded **** to say.. first of all. if u dont have a hd2 why the **** would u be asking for android all over the place.. and that proves that obviouslly u can't just go buy another 600 dollar phone right?? so its alot of diffrense... The android coming out on hd2 as another phone doesnt do ****.. its just retarded, it just makes most hd2 users feel sick to their stomach that they are stuck with the piece of **** winmo os
these threads are just annoying, its not on the hd2 yet, maybe one day, you had 14 days with most networks to return the phone and change it a android phone, yeah be cool if it comes in hd2 if it doesnt so what!!! same with WP7 if either of them cone cool.
Just to let you know:
the majority of the HD2 owners don't give a damn about android on the HD2. It'll be a cool novelty idea when it'll come to fruition, but other than that, it's nothing to bust your nut over.
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Just to let you know:
the majority of the HD2 owners don't give a damn about android on the HD2. It'll be a cool novelty idea when it'll come to fruition, but other than that, it's nothing to bust your nut over.
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Exactly, most people who bought the HD2 bought it because it's a WinMo phone. That's how most smartphone users pick their phone... by what os it runs. Why would you buy a WinMo device if you didn't want a WinMo device? If you bought it just for the big screen or fast processor, you're impatient and dumb.... there will be phones just as fast with just as big screens for android soon enough. Even the next iphone will have a processor just as fast and have a higher-resolution screen (although, not quite as big).
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oh god... please dont say its not that much of a diffrense... thats the most retarded **** to say.. first of all. if u dont have a hd2 why the **** would u be asking for android all over the place.. and that proves that obviouslly u can't just go buy another 600 dollar phone right?? so its alot of diffrense... The android coming out on hd2 as another phone doesnt do ****.. its just retarded, it just makes most hd2 users feel sick to their stomach that they are stuck with the piece of **** winmo os
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I don't understand what you're saying. You responded to this thread that's been dead for 2 weeks to argue with the op.... but you're stating that winmo is a piece of ****, so wouldn't you agree with the op as he is stating he wants android on the HD2. What am I missing? And most HD2 users are quite happy with WinMo.... why else would they have bought a HD2, a WinMo device. And why did you buy it if you think WinMo is a piece of ****?
alldino, I think you didn't get me!
I don't own a HD2. I have a Milestone (US=Droid) and a Desire (US=Nexus).
The Milestone has a big bug in speech quality, the Desire has a crappy screen.
So there is actually no device with "perfect hardware".
The HD2 does have a great hardware, but WinMo - and I want Android!
and btw. there is NOT much difference between the HD2 and the EVO 4G!
"Just" a higher MP cam, HDMI and more RAM and ROM as far as I know off-hand now.
this will be my one and only reply in an "android on hd2" thread (not including the one that, one day, will officially announce android for hd2 )
IMVHO, if something "linux-ish" has to be ported to HD2, it would be extremely silly that it was android. Android!=linux, linux>>android
Android comes from linux, but it's so underdeveloped and sectorialized that it retains just a little bit resemblance with the flexibility of proper linux.
I am really counting on the fact that something like meego will come to the HD2.
Luckily, as soon as it will be possible to port android, it will always be possible to port meego/moblin/maemo to it.
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this will be my one and only reply in an "android on hd2" thread (not including the one that, one day, will officially announce android for hd2 )
IMVHO, if something "linux-ish" has to be ported to HD2, it would be extremely silly that it was android. Android!=linux, linux>>android
Android comes from linux, but it's so underdeveloped and sectorialized that it retains just a little bit resemblance with the flexibility of proper linux.
I am really counting on the fact that something like meego will come to the HD2.
Luckily, as soon as it will be possible to port android, it will always be possible to port meego/moblin/maemo to it.
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I, too, look forward to the linux kernel port being completed and seeing the different os's that get ported. Meego would be awesome... I haven't had an opportunity to play with it, unfortunately, so a port to the HD2 would provide me that opportunity. I'd also like to see Ubuntu on the HD2. Android will be nice because of the variety of apps it will open the HD2 up to, but I wouldn't use android full-time. But thats why I love the idea of using haret to boot the linux kernel... I get to keep winmo as my main phone os, but can boot up a linux os when I want to.
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alldino, I think you didn't get me!
I don't own a HD2. I have a Milestone (US=Droid) and a Desire (US=Nexus).
The Milestone has a big bug in speech quality, the Desire has a crappy screen.
So there is actually no device with "perfect hardware".
The HD2 does have a great hardware, but WinMo - and I want Android!
and btw. there is NOT much difference between the HD2 and the EVO 4G!
"Just" a higher MP cam, HDMI and more RAM and ROM as far as I know off-hand now.
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I'm sure there will be some Android phone released in europe in the next few months that have as good of specs as the HD2. Definitely by the time there is a functional android port for the HD2, there will be Android phones that are comparable.
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oh god... please dont say its not that much of a diffrense... thats the most retarded sxxt to say.. first of all. if u dont have a hd2 why the fxxk would u be asking for android all over the place.. and that proves that obviouslly u can't just go buy another 600 dollar phone right?? so its alot of diffrense... The android coming out on hd2 as another phone doesnt do sxxt.. its just retarded, it just makes most hd2 users feel sick to their stomach that they are stuck with the piece of sxxt winmo os
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Any chance you could tone down the language?
I personally bought the Hd2 simply because the hardware is just awesome. Never used Winmobile before so I really didn't know what to expect and quite frankly I don't think it's as stable as the Iphone I sold to get the Hd2. Does that bother me? Nope, not a bit. To me, the tweaking and modding, hacking etc... that's the fun part. Android? I say, bring it on! The more I can modify and tweak and hack, that makes me a happy camper!
I, unfortunately, also don't have the expertise to write the coding to do these marvelous things so I'm also waiting patiently for some of the supergeeks,(and I mean that with the utmost respect), to come up with these solutions and programs so that I can run whatever OS that's available for my new toy. I say, the more choices I have, the more fun I'll have!
NOW! I know it is possibly too early to jump to conclusions, but I have recently been reading through some posts about how our Nexus One's are slowly, sadly and surely becoming obsolete. I agree with this theory in the fact that we aren't getting any love/support anymore. Granted, i know that Froyo is on the way, but i feel as though our hardware could have been better from the get-go, and that now (starting to become the long run since launch) it will be the death of this phone on a large basis. I feel as though Google has left us behind with some major issues, and has crippled the Nexus One name, purely because they seem like they don't want to deal with it anymore. Support is limited at that, and updates are scarce (one update to be exact, and even that OTA had problems), even for non-root users. Development, even though sometimes a tedious task, is moving slowly. We have a small selections of stable roms and thats about it. Nothing super fantastic (granted CyanogenMod and Modaco's ROMS are great, but not legendary), nothing special. I feel like there was more support for the (i hate to bring it in) iPhone in terms of the community and the modding experience.
Simply, I absolutely LOVE my Nexus One, but i feel like it is not getting the support it deserves, and i DO NOT want this beautiful piece of technology to be obsolete by september. i hope you guys are with me on this, because i think we all know that this phone could easily be something BETTER than what it is now. and it SHOULD be able to compete with any phone within a year from now because it's Google's baby. GOOGLE: GIVE US MORE for our phones and for our money. Because, even though i feel like this is the best phone i've ever had, 1) i feel like it'll be obsolete in a few months and 2) im starting to feel like i wasted my money.
long live nexus
+1 .......
The Nexus one will be the standard by which all android phones are measured for at-least another year.
Keeping everything pure AOSP is a huge plus IMO.
Official updates are slow, but code is being committed to the repository regularly and makes it on to the custom ROMS very quickly.
There is no phone out there with better features and community support than the one you have
There is no other phone on google.com/phone... so we are still the only child.
Google is trying to catch up the rest of the android world to 2.1
VZ cut them off it seems from the N1 and instead VZ gets another great Android handset.
Froyo has some much needed upgrades and will help (in theory) android solidify itself by stabilizing the platform for devs.
JIT/Flash/Market /Open GL / market upgrades are on there way if you believe the rumors.
What is it you feel is being phased out ?
Only about 500k users have an N1. Thats a miniscule amount.
Even with that we have two great devs putting out some very stable ROMS. Unlike the past N1 came with so many damn features out of box that we didnt need ROMs and Apps to add the 101 missing features.
Listen I am still up in Googles rectum about alot of features that need to be fixed/enhanced on Android. We all knew N1 was the first of the snapdragons. The others are storming in blasting taking attention away from us...but theyre all on the same team....they all bleed green =-)
Sure Id love to be slapping on Sense widgets , Moto Blur social network apps , etc...but thats up to us as a community to do it (if ever technically possible).
Anyways feel good about your purchase. You still have the best available phone on the market and will until the EVO/Iphone4G drop. And even then..youd still be top 3 at worst.
There isn't much development because there isn't much to do. The Nexus has the latest firmware and top specs. Of announced phones only the Evo and Galaxy S have significantly better specs everything else is just a SLIGHTLY upgraded Nexus. No porting apps or firmwares are needed. The only thing to really do is optimize what we have (cyanogen is doing that) and port sense UI (Paul is doing that). I'm happy with my Nexus .....for now hehe
zach I can understand the complaints about some of the nagging issues the phone has had (3G, purple tint etc.) but two things we have to realize: A majority of the users don't experience these problems, and in no way is our phone going to be obsolete anytime soon.
Here is a post I made regarding the Incredible screen, I think it's relevant here:
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Here's my take:
Would I like to have this screen in my Nexus? Yea it would have been a nice feature. Do I need this screen? No, not in the slightest.. Not yet anyways. The only apps that would require a screen like that are games, and I don't play the type of games on my phone that would require axis-crossing multitouch. I know some people do, and I can respect that but I don't, hence why I don't care about this right now.
Frankly, if you're playing those kinds of games anyways, just get an iPhone (and I'm not saying that in a bad way). iPhone is unmatched when it comes to gameplay and plus you can get them all for free if you jailbreak. Yea The Incredible has a capable screen, but do you know long it's going to take Android to catch up to Apple when it comes to game quality?? Android just got games like Racing Thunder 2 and Homerun Battle 3D while you can play Street Fighter 4 and freaking Grand Theft Auto on the iPhone! It's no competition.. if you want to game, you don't have the right phone.
By the time Android actually starts developing games and apps that can take advantage of the axis crossing MT, The Incredible will be "obsolete" (as some of you like to put it) so no need for everyone to get their panties in a bunch
With most things I normally have a realist perspective and am usually the first to 'hate' on something when its deserved, but alot of you guys are just a bunch of downers. The Incredible is a great phone as is the Nexus, everyone should just appreciate what they have! If you keep chasing the newest technology (no matter how impractical it is) you will never be satisfied!
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There will always be new technology coming out faster than we can keep up with, the important thing is to not prematurely write one product off as soon as a newer one becomes available. People will be saying the same thing about the Incredible/4G Evo etc in a few months from now. That's just the ways things are. If you have that mentality you will want a new phone every few months regardless of how good it is.
Regarding the selection of ROMS.. Guys, right now we have the top of the line OS on our phones.. 2.1 is the standard, most of the G1/Magic ROMS are trying to replicate what we already have stock. Believe me, once Froyo and Android 3.0 come out the devs will be right on it and we'll get awesome ports. We have great developers who will make sure our phones have the newest software on our devices.
And if worst comes to worst and some of you decide to sell your Nexus this summer, it will have excellent resale value.
Don't worry, This is the phone Google are actively giving to developers. We'll be here for a while to come yet.
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I most definetely do not believe the nexus one will be phased out anytime soon, actually i will be ordering one tonight as a matter of fact. yes we may not have the best touch screens or the greatest rom develipment, but that is because we are still number one There are no other builds to even create until phones of this caliber runnng other os are on the scene. And for the touch screen issue, whe the time comes to where we truely need multitouch for games on the market out nexus's WILL be outdated, or there WILL be a fix for this, i mean geez Cyanogen has nearly finished a fully working Eclair for the g1 already, all i see is hope and excitment for the future of this device, the market also needs some serious time to catch up to apples games (please dont get upset with this, its true) The only thing i can see actually outdating our phones are dual processors capable of OVER 1.5 otherwise i dont believe they will be extinct, not even the 1.3 samsung will hurt the nexus i think considering we can be oc'ed to 1.3 anyways i do believe, or at least close
I don't think that we're being phased out, not until another year. Each phone that comes in the market gets compared to Nexus One.
As far as the development is concerned, its very satisfactory. Comparing the development scene between N1 an iPhone, iPhone sold nearly 50x the units of N1 sold. So most app developers have their focus on iPhone as it stands them a better chance of making more money..... But still development on N1 is much better.....
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There will always be new technology coming out faster than we can keep up with, the important thing is to not prematurely write one product off as soon as a newer one becomes available. People will be saying the same thing about the Incredible/4G Evo etc in a few months from now. That's just the ways things are. If you have that mentality you will want a new phone every few months regardless of how good it is.
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+1
I’m beginning to think some people have never bought a phone before, or a computer for that matter.
Did people expect the N1 to the absolute top spec phone forever? Seriously its still amazing compared to most, and measures up nicely in all significant ways to these new phones it keeps getting compared to. Stop trying to bury it before its even close to dead.
There is always something newer coming. No exceptions. There are phones in development now that will top the Evo and Incredible. At some point you have to buy something or you’ll wait forever.
The N1 is Google’s flag ship phone. I bought it for that reason. If Google is developing something cool (like FroYo!) its pretty much guaranteed to come to us first. Its not being phased out. I think there are exciting things to come…
You have got to be kidding. Seriously?
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NOW! I know it is possibly too early to jump to conclusions, but I have recently been reading through some posts about how our Nexus One's are slowly, sadly and surely becoming obsolete. I agree with this theory
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How does the best Android phone currently on the market obsolete? You must be working from a totally different definition of "obsolete".
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in the fact that we aren't getting any love/support anymore.
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THAT must be why Google is giving Nexus Ones out to so many developers! Because they don't love it anymore and want to get rid of it!
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Granted, i know that Froyo is on the way, but i feel as though our hardware could have been better from the get-go, and that now (starting to become the long run since launch) it will be the death of this phone on a large basis.
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As if Froyo isn't a major undertaking.
In what way could the hardware have been better, without delaying the release of the phone?
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I feel as though Google has left us behind with some major issues, and has crippled the Nexus One name, purely because they seem like they don't want to deal with it anymore. Support is limited at that
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Are we talking about the same phone? In what way is it crippled?
Google has upped its support, hired more support personnel, and continues to present the N1 as its flagship phone. How does that equate to "they don't want to deal with it anymore"?
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and updates are scarce (one update to be exact, and even that OTA had problems), even for non-root users.
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How long has the N1 been out? Just how often did you expect an update? I think your expectations might be wildly unrealistic.
And "even for non-root users"!?! WTF does that mean? If anything, non-root users have far fewer updates -- rooted users are getting the updates from CM as soon as Google commits them to the source repository, whereas "even" implies that you expect non-root users to receive more updates, which is completely backwards.
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Development, even though sometimes a tedious task, is moving slowly. We have a small selections of stable roms and thats about it. Nothing super fantastic (granted CyanogenMod and Modaco's ROMS are great, but not legendary), nothing special.
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If you don't think CM is "super fantasic" then I invite you to go back to the stock N1 rom. Installing CM for the first time is like getting a whole new phone.
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I feel like there was more support for the (i hate to bring it in) iPhone in terms of the community and the modding experience.
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Somebody call the waaaaaaaaaahmbulance.
I don't buy it. I don't like the multitouch sensor they used for the phone, and I think the scrolling could be smoother, but what do you really expect from Google? Short of them sending out free hardware upgrades, what are you really looking for to not feel phased out?
The Nexus One is a great phone, at least for me. Even with the multitouch issues, I'm able to pull off running jumps when I play Super Mario World and the like. And that issue is allegedly being worked on with 2.2. If they flat out said the Nexus One wasn't getting 2.2 then you could make the claim of the Nexus One being phased out.
As far as network issues go, I have zero problems with my AT&T Nexus One and 3G. I live in the DC Metro area, for what it's worth. Most problems I've heard from people are all on T-Mobile. Who's to say the problem isn't on T-Mobile's side instead of Google's? Everyone blames AT&T's network for the iPhone's network issues, but it's pretty clear that the radio in the iPhone is garbage.
We live in a time where there are 1ghz processors in handheld devices. Technology is advancing so fast. It's always going to hurt when your $500+ dollar device isn't the best around anymore, but do you really want forward progress to slow down so you feel like you have the best phone longer?
I think you're being overly paranoid, if you ask me. So long as you love the phone, what do you care?
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You have got to be kidding. Seriously?
How does the best Android phone currently on the market obsolete? You must be working from a totally different definition of "obsolete".
THAT must be why Google is giving Nexus Ones out to so many developers! Because they don't love it anymore and want to get rid of it!
As if Froyo isn't a major undertaking.
In what way could the hardware have been better, without delaying the release of the phone?
Are we talking about the same phone? In what way is it crippled?
Google has upped its support, hired more support personnel, and continues to present the N1 as its flagship phone. How does that equate to "they don't want to deal with it anymore"?
How long has the N1 been out? Just how often did you expect an update? I think your expectations might be wildly unrealistic.
And "even for non-root users"!?! WTF does that mean? If anything, non-root users have far fewer updates -- rooted users are getting the updates from CM as soon as Google commits them to the source repository, whereas "even" implies that you expect non-root users to receive more updates, which is completely backwards.
If you don't think CM is "super fantasic" then I invite you to go back to the stock N1 rom. Installing CM for the first time is like getting a whole new phone.
Somebody call the waaaaaaaaaahmbulance.
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I didn't wanna quote the whole thing (sorry everyone) but this is the post of the year IMO!!!! Every counter argument you made is perfect.....This thread is BOGUS!!!!!!
You can't compare the modding/dev community of the N1 to the iPhone anyways.
The iphone has FAR more units out there, and the Apple cult is still buying. The iPhone also has more that is needed as far as mods to make it a nice OS.
The iPhone also runs native binaries, so there seem to be a lot more standard systems written for it, or so I was told in my Q&A thread. The iPhone has full apt packaging system, full set of GNU tools, full OpenSSH suite, etc.
The iPhone also has a lot more core teams of dedicated modders, while Android seems to have 1-2, at least for the N1. This is, again, I think due to the fact that the iPhone needs more mods to make it a good OS.
Without boobs, this thread is a waste of time.
Not even boobs can rescue the OP's post.
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I didn't wanna quote the whole thing (sorry everyone) but this is the post of the year IMO!!!! Every counter argument you made is perfect.....This thread is BOGUS!!!!!!
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Without boobs, this thread is a waste of time.
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I agree wholeheartedly with both of you.
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NOW! I know it is possibly too early to jump to conclusions, but I have recently been reading through some posts about how our Nexus One's are slowly, sadly and surely becoming obsolete.
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Can you link these posts?
How is the N1 becoming obsolete? What are your reasons? I have yet to see any indication of this.
updates are scarce (one update to be exact, and even that OTA had problems), even for non-root users.
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What kind of crap is this? Yes, the N1 has received 1 update. Which is 1 more than MANY other Android phones in YEARS.
Development, even though sometimes a tedious task, is moving slowly.
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Here's the Android source code:
http://android.git.kernel.org/
Get to work!
GOOGLE: GIVE US MORE for our phones and for our money
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Give more WHAT?
Enjoy the wave for as long as it lasts... which will be a long time
Tech wise phones go obsolete much faster than a PC ever would for the simple fact that you are in a closed environment. You can't upgrade the RAM, graphics or CPU on one of these things so shelf life is in terms of months not years. But that's not to say that support will go away for the N1 any time soon. OP is just acknowledging/exhibiting the mid-life crisis that the N1 is in currently. It's still the flagship product and a benchmark for every phone slated to be released this year. Next year may be different--hell I'm sure it will be--but for now, we're good and there's enough power that it'll still be viable 2 years from now. If you need a current tangible example, just look at how many G1's there are out there and how long that phone has been out.
I came from the dismally dysfunctional land of the Epix from Samsung where between them and AT&T, they couldn't figure out who was suppose to be doing the obligatory reach-around. With the N1 there are no more worries about the carrier holding up the updates for a fix to a major problem introduced by another fix almost a year prior for an infantile notification issue., there are no more issues with contractual obilgations to corporate partnerships (Yahoo) with draconian imposed restrictions to enforce it(backflip) and mostly there's no more waiting for the mfg to finally update their license to a newer version OS if they even bother going that route to begin with. Open architecture, open software and an infinite amount of potential for old and new phones is why I'm here and I'm sure a bunch of others are too.
So to anyone else reading this and especially to Sprint customers that are waiting for the N1, catch the wave however you want(N1, Evo, etc) but enjoy it for what it is--a long great ride and loads of fun--cowabunga!
Did somebody say boobs? Er, was I supposed to get something else out of this?
As of late, it seems as if less and less builds are being updated and less new builds emerge, specifically in the Sense department.
The developers we do have are dedicated and talented, but they're not many.
It's evident that with newer better devices in the market, a developer is more likely to pick up a new Sensation or at least SenseHD than an HD2.
I'd say as a result of the dwindling supply (and demand) of hard-core HD2 developers, less progress is being made in other fields such as drivers and libraries, the more 'hard-core' problems.
Also, MAGLDR and CLK, while both good in their own way, haven't been updated in ages (and while they are both amazing accomplishments, there is always work to be done).
Now you might ask me 'why are you complaining'? Well, I'm not - I'm thankful to just being able to run Android on my aging yet incredibly powerful device, and I'll take anything I can get. I'm just wondering if I'm imagining things, or if the HD2 has really been pushed to it's limits software-wise?
Hi,
As far as the SENSE issue goes,devs have pretty much reached the limit of development.
This is due to the lack of graphics libs from the source kernels held back by HTC.
Imilka has stated that he will not do any further development until these are released by HTC.
Any development at the moment is more of a sideways movement,rather than going forwards in leaps and bounds.
I think that you are suffering badly from ORD and you should seek solace from THIS THREAD.
You are right .There is new blood on the horizon in the shape of the Sensation and EVO 3D,but until they get unlocked bootloaders,I'll be returning to these pages for my ROM updating fixes,however infrequent they might be.
Sense 3 and the HD2
I have seen some nice things happening, and you may be right. Seems development is slowing. There seems to be even less in the EU versions of the phone. is it time to move on? maybe. I loved this phone, and that's why I bought it. I just hope it's a lull, and not the shape of things to come. (not yet at least.)
What is going to be the next great HTC phone that gets support like the HD2 did? I actually look to XDA to see what to buy Android wise. I always want something that looks like its going to be around for a while, and if its got lots of XDA attention, then that's what I want.
Well!!!
I'm a HD2 user from November 2009 which means it's almost 2 years old.
For a phone that's quit old. Now I'm running Mango on it and I also had many android versions running on it. I really love this device.
Now comes my problem!!
I want to buy a new phone but I want the same phone which can run many OS.
Should I wait until the Eternity or will there be another "über"-Phone (über = German for Gorgeous/great/Master/better then ever/beyond everything else)?
I think you all know what I mean. The HD2 is just great and I want something similar again.
What do you think???
Regards, Martijn
I suggest waiting a few more months (or years?) for the HTC Holiday .. it seems to be the device of its decade
i have my hd2 also since it was released and i think that i will wait until the quadcore chips come to phones. i can live with the hd2 at the moment and i think buying a dualcore device now isn't worth it when quadcores are announced for the mid of next year. maybe i'll buy a cheap used phone inbetween to play with but not a new high end device.
LMAO.
I just bought an HD2. And for the same reason you don't want to leave it.
I want to experience everything I can. You can't do that with any phone.
Lucky me than, im going to buy HD2 tomorrow
There is no real upgrade in my opinion. The only signifcant upgrade I reckon is in battery life, front cam, a slighty better rear cam and perhaps screen quality.
I have had; Desire, Desire HD, Legend and now Nexus S. They are all so similar to HD2 it feels cool for the first day and then you realize there was really no point in upgrading.
Sansung GS II is the biggest upgrade IMO, but then you are stuck on a stock ROM
rauschkugl said:
i have my hd2 also since it was released and i think that i will wait until the quadcore chips come to phones. i can live with the hd2 at the moment and i think buying a dualcore device now isn't worth it when quadcores are announced for the mid of next year. maybe i'll buy a cheap used phone inbetween to play with but not a new high end device.
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If you're going to think like that then might as well wait for the 8 core phones instead of buying a quad core phone.
Well but they are Not manufactured yet. The kal el is done and working. And if you Upgrade and some month later there is such better Hardware available you'll also get angry. The difference between our hd2 and a dual core device is Not that big. At the Moment the hd2 is still pretty up to date. I know very well that waiting for the next good thing to come out would never end when we Talk about smartphones or Computers. There is just no really big fish out at the Moment like the hd2 was in 2009. So i for myself will wait for quadcores and 720p Displays because this will be worth the Upgrade from the hd2.
Unfortunately, I think the HD2 was unique with all the possibilities and hacking and the great developers coming together at one time. I've been watching and waiting for the next great phone, but I think that when the HD2 finally fades away, there won't be another phone with the same abilities because of the lack of developers focused on it. I just don't know what I'll do, I guess I'll actually have to decide on an Android or WP7 phone (but I really really like being able to jump between the two with just a reboot)!
If you can't wait there's been a bit of buzz around the Xiaomi M1 phone - supposedly able to run multiple OS's.
Feel free to shoot me down in flames if I've mis-interpreted the description of it.
Duflet said:
If you can't wait there's been a bit of buzz around the Xiaomi M1 phone - supposedly able to run multiple OS's.
Feel free to shoot me down in flames if I've mis-interpreted the description of it.
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It cannot run multiple OS's, but it is a very awesome looking phone. It is basically an Android modder's dream if the development is there, but only Android. It won't ever run WM or WP
orangekid said:
It cannot run multiple OS's, but it is a very awesome looking phone. It is basically an Android modder's dream if the development is there, but only Android. It won't ever run WM or WP
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true. this could really be a cheap option to get a phone were some great developement could go on. we'll see how good it really will be. this price is pretty cheap for a phone with such hardware. hope it won't be cheap china crap.
but somehow i'm missing the flash and front facing cam.
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true. this could really be a cheap option to get a phone were some great developement could go on. we'll see how good it really will be. this price is pretty cheap for a phone with such hardware. hope it won't be cheap china crap.
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It's using a 1.5 ghz snapdragon/adreno with 1GB ram SoC so you know the raw specs are freaking amazing.
What I want to see is how good the screen is and how good the code is. They are making a bad-ass phone with a stock-custom ROM (if that makes sense), it would be like HTC releasing a phone running stock CM7 on it or something.
If there is custom ROM support for this thing like CM7 and stuff I might get it.
i know the phone thanks. but build quality has to be good.
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i know the phone thanks. but build quality has to be good.
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yeah hopefully they don't use crap plastic like samsung.
even at the size and weight, with those kind of specs
i will definitely be getting 1 just for the heck of testing and flashing
with CM7, hell yeah definitely my go to phone
That phone looks like the first iPhone.
Anyway I'm very happy with my HD2.
by the way is this just a nice render or nearby future.
HTTP://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637768
(I hope the link works, I'm running a mango version where copy paste doesn't work very good)
martijnloeffen said:
That phone looks like the first iPhone.
Anyway I'm very happy with my HD2.
by the way is this just a nice render or nearby future.
HTTP://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637768
(I hope the link works, I'm running a mango version where copy paste doesn't work very good)
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Lol @ it runs a discontinued OS
Well i think there is not one out there that can replace the HD2. Why change a winner with a posible expencive new one. If your phone will break, it wil only cost you 150-200 Euro to replace.
depends where you live. here i have to pay still 400 euro to get a new one.
So, I'm relatively new to Android and trying to decide which phone to buy. I first joined the scene with the HP touchpad. Now I want a phone and wonder if the HD2 is a good buy.
I like what ive seen so far- esp. dual boot wp7/android
I dont like all the complaints about freezing, overheating, screen issues etc.
I need something that is receiving a lot of developer support.
For the past decade and a half i've been a Nokia/symbian guy. Now I'm getting a bit bored with my N900.
Appreciate your opinions. Price is a major factor- i cant buy a 2011 phone right now. Being a late 2009 phone, the HD2's price has dropped and is right in my range (from what I'm seeing on ebay).
i love my hd2. i would prefer android instead of wm7
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i love my hd2. i would prefer android instead of wm7
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agreed. i love this phone too. this phone is monster os.
Worthed every penny..
You won't get any overheating, freezing etc unless there is something wrong with the phone itself or you did something wrong.
The hd2 does have a lot of developer support, it can run latest android builds, wp7 and ICS. Stable for ics should not be too far away.
Obviously this phone will be left behind in terms of speed when more and more dual core phones are coming out.
But if you are looking for something that can run all major types of software well, this is the phone for you.
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You won't get any overheating, freezing etc unless there is something wrong with the phone itself or you did something wrong.
The hd2 does have a lot of developer support, it can run latest android builds, wp7 and ICS. Stable for ics should not be too far away.
Obviously this phone will be left behind in terms of speed when more and more dual core phones are coming out.
But if you are looking for something that can run all major types of software well, this is the phone for you.
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Yup, thats exactly what im looking for. Ive pretty much decided i'll be getting one... ebay and Craigslist prices are right in my range. But how do I know I won't be buying a defective unit, even if I buy a new one? Just luck I guess?
For ebay: You're just gonna have to take the sellers word, also watch if returns are accepted in case something does turn out to be wrong.
Craigslist: prices should be cheaper here and you can check if there is anything with the phone etc.
So the general consensus is that an hd2 with a touchscreen that freezes can be fixed by changing the digitizer?