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Hello everyone ive just purchased an HTC-HD2 phone and so far i love it
I also have a iphone and i like the look of the htc better.
I know this phone is a little different but can my htc be pimped up lol ie themes.....
my Software on my phone is:
OS 5.2.21864
Manila: 2.5.19....
ROM:1.43.110.2
Radio: 2.04.50.22_2
protocal:15.26.50.07u
Hope this helps guys would be very greatfull for help and maybe some links
Thankyou & keep up the good work
Mod Edit - Warez or warez requests are not allowed on XDA
This forum is strictly anti warez, you must avoid that subject here.
For free tweaks and mods, you may check the "themes and apps" section, the very first sticky is a great start, but there are many more.
not a great way to introduce yourself to the forum.
the answer is yes it can, but not with help from anyone on here.
most of the apps aren't expensive, and lot of the themes etc are built by people here in their spare time and shared for free (although it's nice to donate every now and then)
Ok sorry about that guys just trying to choose between this and my iphone
i do apologise for this so i cant mention this type of thing on the entire forum ?
mastermark2010 said:
Ok sorry about that guys just trying to choose between this and my iphone
i do apologise for this so i cant mention this type of thing on the entire forum ?
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you can mention it, although continued speak of warez is likely to get you a ban.
There are various sites on the net where you can get such apps. However, since this is a developers site and a community who likes to support the developers (remember that without developers, you wouldn't have anything for your phone at all...inclusing cracked apps) we would prefer that you didn't talk about it too much.
Well dont wanna get banned just wanna learn the ins & outs thanks anyway
I can't comment on the warez thing that is unknown territory to me...
But I can reccommend you upgrade your ROM 1.66 - the official release from HTC.
It is the first thing I did when I got mine home...I cannot tell you all the things it updates but I know that I have yet to experience any of the problems people have mentioned in many of the forums that I follow.
And most of all read the hints and tips part of the HD2 forum - it has paid dividens.
And above all stay in touch with this forum - and ask questions...I have yet to not get an answer that helps...
Scott
Ok I love the xda forum but there are some things that tick me off and I feeli should say what I need to say to better this forum
1. XDA needs some sort of live chat service for those who need help and answers quick
2. We need more people with knowledge in rooting and flashing roms on and to anwser questions
3. Better tutorials because these tutorials aren't that straight foward and is a bit difficult make a for dummies.
Post what you think xda needs to do to better this site
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3 things I can think of right away:
1. A limit on how big your signature is. I'm so sick of seeing 1 line post and half-page long sig with bunch of worthless info in there (including your last 10 phones, gaming consoles, your cars) and load of meaninless pictures.
2. A waiting period between time when one registers and time when they can post. So many people register, don't read anything and just ask stupid questions over and over again. I'm oficially done holding people's hand to do anything that was walked-through before.
3. A required field with phone info (including bootloader, radio, rom, etc). No more guessing.
Yes, I'm demanding but I really see these forums degrading over the time.
/rant
Wow Calm Down Borodin1
You really shouldn't stop helping people out because your one of the few who actually does meaning your a huge asset to this site and its members
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Wow Calm Down Borodin1
You really shouldn't stop helping people out because your one of the few who actually does meaning your a huge asset to this site and its members
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He's not so wrong. I also noticed in the last time, that several times the same question was asked, even if the answer to the question was already given one or two days ago.
In addition it would help much to know, what is already installed on the phone, especially SPL and RADIO. So you can suggest directly some steps, without asking first about the configuration. Probably we can provide a template for the information which should be included within the signature.
Send from my G1 with HTCClay's UNOFFICIAL Superfly 1.6 D/S ADS using XDA App
REPUB!!!!!!
Besides if you make something idiot proof they always come out with a better idiot
I stand corrected
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If you ended up to this thread by just clicking on it, because you thought, it has got something to do with HTC HD2 NAND or New Keyboard, I am really sorry and I do apologize to you.
The only reason I have created this thread is because the way one of the HD2 forum moderators have just deleted a thread I created out of the blue! I could not find who, how and when deleted my thread but it's gone!
I don't just find it unjust but I also found it ridiculously childish behaviour! I nudge or a PM would have made better sense before deleting!
The OLD Thread that is now deleted din't do any flaming or spamming either! All I had asked was If any HTC HD2 developer would be willing to help us lot in TG01 forum in developing Android kernel, the way they helped out here. I din't post it in ROM thread or any other forum. I posted that thread in 'general Q&A' as that was where it fitted the best.
DEAR MODERATOR BEFORE YOU DELETE THIS THREAD AS WELL:
If you read any of this (unlike earlier thread) please CONTACT ME first! Deleting thread only because it's title said TG01 doesn't mean I am stupid enough to write TG01 query in HD2 forum! I have created this thread with HD2 and NAND in title - so that themoderator who can't even be bothered to read into the content will NOT delete this as the title relates to HD2!
To all the users who come to this thread:
I ONLY APPEAL to please be at my place and see this situation! I am not intending to flame, spam or anything! I wanted to ask for help from all HD2 developers so that our android development in TG01 forum which has paused right now due to lack of help and guidance can go forward. After all I thought XDA was all about helping each other out!
I again apologize to all users! I am not writing this thread to cause you any inconvenience. The old thread, had correct title and correct format of posting into XDA forums. I had followed all rules. Only because I asked for help for TG01 forum and not for HD2, it was deleted! Where else can I ask for help from ALL developers at HD2? Can't be sending PMs to hundreds of you lot - that would be spamming!!
Hey
Have you tried sending out just a few pm's to hd2 chefs, maybe someone will point you in the right direction,
also have you also tried the irc channels since your query is a dev related
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Hey
Have you tried sending out just a few pm's to hd2 chefs, maybe someone will point you in the right direction,
also have you also tried the irc channels since your query is a dev related
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Thanks a lot for the response!
Since I wasn't sure who the hd2 chefs are - I couldn't PM them. If you please guide me towards profiles of chefs involved in android port to HD2, I will PM them and see if they are interested in helping us out.
Also, am new to IRC. How do I go about that as well?
Once again, thanks for the answer, and I hope the mods don't delete this thread again before I get some help
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Thanks a lot for the response!
Since I wasn't sure who the hd2 chefs are - I couldn't PM them. If you please guide me towards profiles of chefs involved in android port to HD2, I will PM them and see if they are interested in helping us out.
Also, am new to IRC. How do I go about that as well?
Once again, thanks for the answer, and I hope the mods don't delete this thread again before I get some help
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Hey
Some of the main devs behind the actual HD2 Android port were Cotulla, dcordes, NetRipper, LeTama, Markinus, just to name a few, though i doubt you will get much response (with maybe 1 exception)
As for HD2 chefs, its a bit worrying to hear you say you're not sure who they are, they're fairly easy to find...
head over to the HD2 Android NAND Development sub forum & look at the author of the threads, if he/ she states its their build/rom, there is your HD2 Chef
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040273
its not for me to suggest any names, just take a random pick, most seem friendly enough someone might able to give you some pointers.
have to say tho, really cant understand why you dont sell up & just buy a dedicated android or if you want something to tinker with, why not a HD2 (it is starting to show its age tho).
Anyways, Goodluck
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Hey
Some of the main devs behind the actual HD2 Android port were Cotulla, dcordes, NetRipper, LeTama, Markinus, just to name a few, though i doubt you will get much response (with maybe 1 exception)
As for HD2 chefs, its a bit worrying to hear you say you're not sure who they are, they're fairly easy to find...
head over to the HD2 Android NAND Development sub forum & look at the author of the threads, if he/ she states its their build/rom, there is your HD2 Chef
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040273
its not for me to suggest any names, just take a random pick, most seem friendly enough someone might able to give you some pointers.
have to say tho, really cant understand why you dont sell up & just buy a dedicated android or if you want something to tinker with, why not a HD2 (it is starting to show its age tho).
Anyways, Goodluck
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Thank you very much for this answer! It helps a lot!
I am not a chef for HD2 forum roms. I mainly interact in TG01 forums. Hardly pop-in to these forums. Hence had no idea who is very active developer out here. But now the tast seems easier to contact them.
The reason I din't want to sell up (and mostly others out there too) is the contracts. We are tied up in 18-24 months contracts and as much as we hate the bloated OS that our respective carriers have put on this nice piece of hardware, we do want to explore the development on this device to it's max. Hence we were trying to see if someone could help us take the stalled development further on Android.
Most likely TG01 owner might move to android or WP7 in next 6-8 months and then the community might be dead, but android development on this device will bring a new life to enthusiasm
drupad2drupad said:
Thank you very much for this answer! It helps a lot!
I am not a chef for HD2 forum roms. I mainly interact in TG01 forums. Hardly pop-in to these forums. Hence had no idea who is very active developer out here. But now the tast seems easier to contact them.
The reason I din't want to sell up (and mostly others out there too) is the contracts. We are tied up in 18-24 months contracts and as much as we hate the bloated OS that our respective carriers have put on this nice piece of hardware, we do want to explore the development on this device to it's max. Hence we were trying to see if someone could help us take the stalled development further on Android.
Most likely TG01 owner might move to android or WP7 in next 6-8 months and then the community might be dead, but android development on this device will bring a new life to enthusiasm
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+ 10 my friend
The rules on this forum aren't well observed and I have to mention this, cause I find it sooo funny (or maybe "IRONIC") that things like this happen on this site. I am particularly talking about the Omega ROM Series thread...
I have literally read all 3950+ pages of the Omega thread and the same question (since the upgrade from Omega 34 to 35) has been asked over and over again (with some people still patiently answering it, whilst others are getting frustrated).
Can't believe that these people are allowed to post in that thread, but because I don't have 10 posts, I can't.... Seems a bit ludicrous to me, that people are allowed to post questions over and over without first searching or reading (as per the rules), but stupid rules (like not being able to post in a developer thread unless you have 10 posts) are enforced. Especially when I have been on this site for around 9 months (but just haven't signed up before or posted anything).
Very frustrating, especially since I have a question that I haven't read in the 3950+ pages and haven't found when searching, but I can't ask it... AAAGGGGHHHH!!!!!
Sorry, needed to vent (plus it adds another post, unless a moderator deems this as inflammatory and deletes it)...
You just as bad for posting this spam!!!!
Sent from my SGH-T759 using xda premium
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You just as bad for posting this spam!!!!
Sent from my SGH-T759 using xda premium
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Thanks.. I thought it might get a reaction. Just frustrated that's all...
This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITeuaqcpckc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Thanks... Interesting that people are finding this thread to be spam (not sure I would have defined it that way, but I guess if that's how it's being taken, then I must apologise)..
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You just as bad for posting this spam!!!!
Sent from my SGH-T759 using xda premium
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This is not a spam this is a personal opinion.
I think that that kind of people are a must have on a forum that is this popular. Now everyone can find out with a single search that xda can make your phone wonderful or answer a lot of the questions you have. My opinion is to ignore them until they realize that they cannot get the info that way.
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This is not a spam this is a personal opinion.
I think that that kind of people are a must have on a forum that is this popular. Now everyone can find out with a single search that xda can make your phone wonderful or answer a lot of the questions you have. My opinion is to ignore them until they realize that they cannot get the info that way.
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Thanks mate. I knew this thread was always going to invoke a reaction (and probably guilty of posting inflammatory comments, so technically may not be within the rules), but at least it's helping my post count (until a moderator deletes them)...
It would seem that they were enforced, but they aren't enforced that strongly. It's because the moderators and admins have personal lives too, so they can't spend every living second here monitoring what we do and that we behave as is expected of us.
The 10-post rule isn't something they have to watch over. It's an automatic limit lifted only when the user has accumulated 10 or more posts,
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The 10-post rule isn't something they have to watch over. It's an automatic limit lifted only when the user has accumulated 10 or more posts,
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Hey there
True and not true
I remember perfectly when it was implemented, or rather why.
If memory serves me correctly, at the end of last year, early this year, the system of 10 posts was implemented precisely to avoid situations similar to the one described.
If on one hand there are people of good sense, regardless of how many posts written, it is also true that it is easier for a beginner, put the same questions repeatedly over and over again.
Unlike other "pseudo" members, when there is someone who draws attention to something that, in the opinion of the writer is incorrect, I think this kind of feedback is very welcome. If there isn´t members who express their sincere and correctly their thoughts, guaranteed that this space would not be what it is today.
respects
Ricardo
Same situation dude.
I have been a follower of XDA since last 3-4 years but hadnt joined till now. I bought my first android device about 3 years ago and stumbled upon XDA to know the meaning of rooting..!!! Since that time I have had numerous Android Devices and have had numerous roms for each device. I recently joined and was in a developer forum when I found a post annoying enough to comment on, but when I wanted to, XDA wouldnt let me. I had to have 10 posts. It was so frustrating, (the 10 posts rule) that I didnt visit XDA for days. But who can stay away..?? I came back and am now trying to have my 10 posts so that I can too post in developer forums.
I would like to add that there are many developers like myself, who are good at what they do. but just for the reason that they are new to join the site, but not actually new to the site, they have limited access. I hope this restriction can be waivered by some option. Like a multiple choice quiz....???
iampun33t said:
Same situation dude.
I have been a follower of XDA since last 3-4 years but hadnt joined till now. I bought my first android device about 3 years ago and stumbled upon XDA to know the meaning of rooting..!!! Since that time I have had numerous Android Devices and have had numerous roms for each device. I recently joined and was in a developer forum when I found a post annoying enough to comment on, but when I wanted to, XDA wouldnt let me. I had to have 10 posts. It was so frustrating, (the 10 posts rule) that I didnt visit XDA for days. But who can stay away..?? I came back and am now trying to have my 10 posts so that I can too post in developer forums.
I would like to add that there are many developers like myself, who are good at what they do. but just for the reason that they are new to join the site, but not actually new to the site, they have limited access. I hope this restriction can be waivered by some option. Like a multiple choice quiz....???
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How hard is it to post 10 times. Just go on anything and add an opinion and ignore it.. LOL at least that is what i did..
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How hard is it to post 10 times. Just go on anything and add an opinion and ignore it.. LOL at least that is what i did..
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Its not hard I know. Its just simply frustrating. Having to post 10 times before being able to post in developer forums and Having to wait 5 mins before next post.
Why would u make thid useless thread??!
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Why would u make thid useless thread??!
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Why would you post in this "useless thread"?
OP: I think I can address some of your concerns. As Theshawty points out, humans do the moderating and the "system" bars new users.
If I had my way, registration would be by application only or every post was hidden until approved by a moderator, but alas I'm not in charge, yet.
In instances where the same, repeat posters are ignoring developer requests & subsequent moderator warnings, they will eventually be banned. The process leading upto the ban is quite lengthy, its also detailed here --> http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/banning-policy-revealed/
This is to ensure users are given a chance to stop.
While the 10 post restriction can be frustrating, its there to protect XDA from spambots. Which has dropped significantly since its introduction.
If you see the same individual users asking the same repeated questions, hit the report button. Tell us, in as much detail. Each report is actioned by a moderator. There are 8 of us covering Samsung International handsets, we will get to it and take appropriate action.
As we're human we cannot see every post by every user in every thread. We rely on the community (you) to help shape it and keep it clean.
Thanks
/apologies for the text wall.
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Why would you post in this "useless thread"?
OP: I think I can address some of your concerns. As Theshawty points out, humans do the moderating and the "system" bars new users.
If I had my way, registration would be by application only or every post was hidden until approved by a moderator, but alas I'm not in charge, yet.
In instances where the same, repeat posters are ignoring developer requests & subsequent moderator warnings, they will eventually be banned. The process leading upto the ban is quite lengthy, its also detailed here --> http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/banning-policy-revealed/
This is to ensure users are given a chance to stop.
While the 10 post restriction can be frustrating, its there to protect XDA from spambots. Which has dropped significantly since its introduction.
If you see the same individual users asking the same repeated questions, hit the report button. Tell us, in as much detail. Each report is actioned by a moderator. There are 8 of us covering Samsung International handsets, we will get to it and take appropriate action.
As we're human we cannot see every post by every user in every thread. We rely on the community (you) to help shape it and keep it clean.
Thanks
/apologies for the text wall.
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Because if we wanted to read the rules we would click on the rules and read them when we signed up... common sense mate
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This is a very useful thread, my post count just increased :good:
Would be nice if the system could rather look at a user's "search count", or "read count". But I guess it could be tricky to configure/code that.
My point, similar to OP, I must have read more than 80% of the 2883 posts in Sotmax's ROM thread, and as a result I was able to flash and use within minutes. Been using it for more than a week, yet I am not allowed to post in his thread.
It seems counterproductive to force 10 useless posts for someone who has clearly spent a lot of time on the forum. And I understand the reasoning as explained earlier in this thread, hence my suggestion to refine the rules, if at all possible from a technical and resource point of view.
Merry Christmas all :laugh:
XDA has a system in place to prevent duplicate threads but duplicate questions within threads I imagine is a lot harder to pull off. Also those that look at the 10 post limit as 10 useless posts should reconsider what XDA is here for. It's not hard to make 10 posts.. move around the forums, ask a question, offer advice or a suggestion here and there.. its not hard to hit 10. Its that way for a reason
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iampun33t said:
Same situation dude.
I have been a follower of XDA since last 3-4 years but hadnt joined till now. I bought my first android device about 3 years ago and stumbled upon XDA to know the meaning of rooting..!!! Since that time I have had numerous Android Devices and have had numerous roms for each device. I recently joined and was in a developer forum when I found a post annoying enough to comment on, but when I wanted to, XDA wouldnt let me. I had to have 10 posts. It was so frustrating, (the 10 posts rule) that I didnt visit XDA for days. But who can stay away..?? I came back and am now trying to have my 10 posts so that I can too post in developer forums.
I would like to add that there are many developers like myself, who are good at what they do. but just for the reason that they are new to join the site, but not actually new to the site, they have limited access. I hope this restriction can be waivered by some option. Like a multiple choice quiz....???
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Thanks mate.
Totally agree... Have been developing (in other technologies) for over 20 years. Am a relative noob when it comes to Android development, but used to own the LG-P990 and was on Owain's thread for a while. There were some issues that came up in that thread quite a bit, which no-one had an answer for, but I had a fix for some of them. Of course, I couldn't post it, so was tempted to sign up then. Gotten to the point, where I think I can offer some advice, so decided I had better start posting some stuff so I could help out (and also tap into the wealth of knowledge in these forums to get help as well)...
And now you're back down to 7. If your going to spam a thread with 5-6 consecutive post to increase your post count, try not to pick one where a moderator has posted. Hit the multi quote button. No need for 6 separate posts.
See the rules could be better arranged and also looked at.
I meannthe most obvious rules i see around is the whole ' no postingnin off-topic to get your ten post' rules.
Yet the mods clearly state that you are aloowed to post in the 'say hi thread' which is in off-topic.
Seems abit of a wrong rule really.
Anyone agree?
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i have been off from xda lately due to my admission process.logged in some time ago and saw that tytung has stopped support on xda and all his threads closed.why did this happen.can someone shed a light on this.
I am not offending anybody's decision. Just curious
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Whats happened to tytung
Ah that's a real shame. He put out some great ROMs but that's what happens when you don't obey the rules I guess. It's also nice to see that the mods are completely unbiased and won't give members preferential treatment due to their titles.
Oddly, tytung's threads were all closed apparently because he stated that he would not support them (although he did update). That is the reason given in @kinfauns closing post(s). This is the first time that I am aware of, of threads being closed due to lack of support by the dev. And I can see no rule which states that a dev MUST provide support.
In fact (some) support for these threads was being provided by members, and that is the case for many threads in which the developer/OP is no longer contributing to xda for whatever reason.
People using tytung's roms and needing support on xda, have no choice now but to seek support from "another place". Is it the intention of xda to force people to use a rival site? Or is it to stop people from promoting a rival site and therefore breaking xda rules?
I am just a bit confused as to why these threads were closed, any clarification would be appreciated.
I agree with Robbie p that the threads should be kept open for the users to help each other. Still if the mods are against it we can have a support thread in the general section.
Feels to lose a great dev
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It more looks like few moderators are simply emotionally hurt(you know what I mean) because Tytung's left.
No seriously, this is dumb. I can't post and provide ANY support for Tytungs ROM's(as many other people who got knowledge) because someone closed threads.
Even if there's no Tytung's, WE can provide basic support, for older iterations of ROM. There's much magic still to be done with HD2 android.
This is abusive. Mod responsible for this kind of damage should be punished.
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Oddly, tytung's threads were all closed apparently because he stated that he would not support them (although he did update). That is the reason given in @kinfauns closing post(s). This is the first time that I am aware of, of threads being closed due to lack of support by the dev. And I can see no rule which states that a dev MUST provide support.
In fact (some) support for these threads was being provided by members, and that is the case for many threads in which the developer/OP is no longer contributing to xda for whatever reason.
People using tytung's roms and needing support on xda, have no choice now but to seek support from "another place". Is it the intention of xda to force people to use a rival site? Or is it to stop people from promoting a rival site and therefore breaking xda rules?
I am just a bit confused as to why these threads were closed, any clarification would be appreciated.
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disclaimer ....the following reply is only my opinions
i agree with you ..there are many threads in the hd2 android dev section that should also be closed for no dev support ..in fact 98 percent of them shold be closed for lack of dev support
but what i think was the underlying problem was his links for roms went to links that generated money for him..
and i know if i was a dev that had 3 or 4 different rom threads i wouldnt wanna have to monitor 3 or 4 different q/a&t threads for those roms either that would make 6 or 8 threads a dev would have to monitor ,most dont have the time for that
hell you can see the activity in both sections has almost ground to a crawl ..its as if xda is slowly trying to fade out the hd2 android section
dont be surprised if you see some of the few remaining devs stop making roms and move on to something else
and those posts about about this being a dev thread please post in the q&a section blah blah blah are not helpfull to anyone and just clutter up the dev threads even more then offtopic posts do ..xda is trying to do much to late .ive been on xda since 2010 and there was never a problem with how the threads were maintained and handled ..
hell if the wanna do something good for the forum ..then they should change the signup rules and stop all the lazy people from just coming in new and immediatly posting about something that they couldve searched and read about but are to lazy to and want it all handed to them on a silver plate .....also they could remove people like abumaha who has never posted a single post about how good a rom is ..but always post how do i do this and why doesnt this rom work
ok im off my soapbox now
^ Still don't believe that abumaha is somehow still here :') But yeah I agree with Kam, things haven't been done completely correctly IMO.
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+1 to kameirus i agree 143%
and abuhama.. just lol
on off topic on topic, if you want to find tytung , just google "forum tytung android" and you should find his forums
Everyone knows the mod's in question were just looking for an excuse they could give. He had dropped a new hd2 rom about 2 or 3 weeks prior. He had instructions on how to install it in post 1. Exactly how much "support" does a dev have to provide the users anyway? It was bs plain and simple....oh and if you looked at his status later they knocked him down to a "Senior Member"......I haven't seen any of the OTHER idle dev's getting their status pulled for being "idle".
As mentioned..they've done an excellent job of killing off the hd2 forum....there is almost no active development going on and the closest rom to tytungs still has a long list of things marked "not working". Tytung was also the only one producing recent jelly bean kernels with hd2 specific fixes so everything worked.
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1. Exactly how much "support" does a dev have to provide the users anyway? It was bs plain and simple....oh and if you looked at his status later they knocked him down to a "Senior Member"......I haven't seen any of the OTHER idle dev's getting their status pulled for being "idle".
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As mentioned..they've done an excellent job of killing off the hd2 forum....there is almost no active development going on and the closest rom to tytungs still has a long list of things marked "not working". Tytung was also the only one producing recent jelly bean kernels with hd2 specific fixes so everything worked.
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That's right. all they're doing is killing the HD2 forums ...
i had reported all the "thread closed" posts by that mod, and i got:
tytung was not being picked on. This action was not taken lightly, or by kinfauns alone. tytung left us no choices.
Thank you,
mikef
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but in addition to close his threads, they also lowered him to senior member???
sorry if this is rude, but kinda reminds me of when a kid has his candy bar stoled, and he does everything to take revenge and take it back. enough for me
I do not know who made the decision re Tytung, but it was not made by a matured intellect. I have run systems since 1979 (with over 35 years as a senior networks systems/operations engineer) and have dealt with many experienced administrators, moderators and sysops, and the way this was handled shows nothing but ego-driven/threatened immaturity.
Shame on XDA.
MarkAtHome said:
I do not know who made the decision re Tytung, but it was not made by a matured intellect. I have run systems since 1979 (with over 35 years as a senior networks systems/operations engineer) and have dealt with many experienced administrators, moderators and sysops, and the way this was handled shows nothing but ego-driven/threatened immaturity.
Shame on XDA.
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It does feel like some immature revenge.
It's not like only Tytung's got punished, but XDA users who were using his ROM's
I got unnerving thought, that this whole action is to bury HD2 development and make it Low legacy. While it's still in it's strenght despite old age
Shame on you XDA
MarkAtHome said:
I do not know who made the decision re Tytung, but it was not made by a matured intellect. I have run systems since 1979 (with over 35 years as a senior networks systems/operations engineer) and have dealt with many experienced administrators, moderators and sysops, and the way this was handled shows nothing but ego-driven/threatened immaturity.
Shame on XDA.
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yeah! i just bet anyone who made this decision to port android and then build it from source and support a device that was never intended to run android in the first place!
Some of you may remember me from back in the "glory days" of Android on the HD2 when Cotulla and Darkstone were making the very first ROMs. I was here daily loading new builds, even when you could not turn the screen off one time or you'd get the SOD. That was when you could only do it through haret.
Fast forward a bit and we had magldr and cLK and where we really had a million options. Personally after a while I would pretty much stick with ACA on SD dual booted with WP7, but there were some really cool things out there to do. I spent many hours trying to troubleshoot people to flash hspl 2.08 or the right radio or to NOT flash certain radios etc. to get things going right.
Tytung was one of the greats as far as ROM and kernel development, and I am not prevaricating when I tell you that there is no XDA Staff on this site who does not respect what Tytung brought to the table. To put it in very simple yet eloquent terms: Dude had skill...
But our standing policy at XDA has always been that we do not keep open development threads with no support. Due to the fact that we just don't talk about individual dealings in public at XDA for privacy concerns we cannot get into specifics. But I can tell you that XDA has zero to gain from a developer such as that no longer supporting development threads here.
When something like this happens, there is no "victory" and no winner. sometimes things just don't work out for various reasons, and then sometimes things work out just fine in the end.
I can respect the disappointment and ambivalence on this matter, and believe me when I say that the HD2 is still a mighty device worthy of respect. I still own an HD2 along with all of the other devices I use, and it can still do some cool stuff. I wouldn't consider it a Legacy Device just yet!
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We understand all of this, but why close the threads? If you check the second or third page of the development forum and further, you can see many, and I mean MANY threads of ROMs which are either discontinued or whose developers moved onto other things, other devices. Yet, they are still open, and from time to time you see people bringing them back to surface and getting help. Just because the developer ceased support, it doesn't mean the threads should be closed. Delete his links, remove his other websites, just keep the threads open for members' discussion.
If the developer haven't requested a closure, I don't see a reason why they should be closed.
Marvlesz said:
We understand all of this, but why close the threads? If you check the second or third page of the development forum and further, you can see many, and I mean MANY threads of ROMs which are either discontinued or whose developers moved onto other things, other devices. Yet, they are still open, and from time to time you see people bringing them back to surface and getting help. Just because the developer ceased support, it doesn't mean the threads should be closed. Delete his links, remove his other websites, just keep the threads open for members' discussion.
If the developer haven't requested a closure, I don't see a reason why they should be closed.
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When a developer publicly announces he will no longer follow the rules, no longer support his work posted here, and is actively trying to recruit members away from XDA to his new site, what do you really expect us to do? Cooperate with this effort? Seriously? Sure there are lots of other threads that have been effectively abandoned by their dev/OP when they moved on to a new device, but we simply do not have the luxury of time to go sift through thousands of threads to find them. When they are reported, we evaluate the situation and then act on it according to our guidelines.
Decisions like this are never made quickly, lightly, or on the fly by a single mod here. Now, I am closing this thread and I would appreciate it if no further threads were opened on this topic as it won't help to resolve the situation but will only make it worse.
You all do not know all of the facts in this situation, nor will you as we must respect tytung's privacy in his communications with us so we will not divulge them publicly. tytung is not banned or blacklisted, and is welcome to return here should he change his mind about following the rules. If he does not want to do that, it is entirely up to him.
Thank you,
mikef
XDA Senior Moderator