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Why is it that when we bench Android HD2 vs other phones, our scores come out superior or near superior?
I've seen scores that have reached hundreds ahead the nexus one froyo (OC and Not)
I mean, we are using builds off the SD card.
Does that mean, if we get NAND support, android on our HD2 will be absolutely blazing fast?
Or does it mean that our quadrant scores are all wrong considering that we can only run android off SD?
I've been wanting to know this myself. I hit 1900 on quadrant yesterday and 44.6 mflops on linpack. Am I supposed to believe that my HD2 can absolutely murder a stock nexus one on froyo while running a work-in-progress android build off an SD card?
With what rom/android build combo did you get 1900? I don't get higher than 1550. Shubcraft 1.4d r8 kernel with energy basic rom.
12.50 radio iirc.
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Machiel187 said:
With what rom/android build combo did you get 1900? I don't get higher than 1550. Shubcraft 1.4d r8 kernel with energy basic rom.
12.50 radio iirc.
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Energy Dinik glass winmo rom
Shubcraft 1.4d with R8 running at 1.19 Ghz
Radio 2.10.50.26
I don't consistently get 1900 though. I get anywhere from 1600-1900ish.
Try settings setcpu to performance mode and push to 1190 Mhz if you can and close all your apps. You should be able to get the same. Some other users here know some additional tweaks and they are able to break 1900 even without overclocking so high.
Managed to get to 1657 already with the performance mode on. Curious about those tweaks. Isnt there a tool like the bsb tweaks for winmo?
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Got the highest Quadrant score yet running Energy Standard Aug. 18 ROM and mattc LeoNexus with TouchWiz: 1527 - I haven't installed setCPU either.
Some high scores here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=754675&highlight=quadrant
i dont understand whats this about , because its not about devlopment ....general thread
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Why is it that when we bench Android HD2 vs other phones, our scores come out superior or near superior?
I've seen scores that have reached hundreds ahead the nexus one froyo (OC and Not)
I mean, we are using builds off the SD card.
Does that mean, if we get NAND support, android on our HD2 will be absolutely blazing fast?
Or does it mean that our quadrant scores are all wrong considering that we can only run android off SD?
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You should take a look at the evo 4g scores.Custom roms are pushing their scores over 2300.
Go to bad man, the benchmark doesn't matter
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Go to bad man, the benchmark doesn't matter
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exactly but not so brash
It's because we're comparing against stock benchmarks.
The vibrant should be benchmarking best if it's running froyo and overclocked I think.
The only reason nexus one scores high is that froyo does a wayyyy better job of utilizing the cpu.
From what I understand, the motorola and hummingbird samsung processors actually have better gpus so they would bench better with froyo.
Just remember, we're overclocking Running custom builds, stock is always gonna be slower.
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Just installed setCPU and achieved a score of 1700.
lemonspeakers said:
Why is it that when we bench Android HD2 vs other phones, our scores come out superior or near superior?
I've seen scores that have reached hundreds ahead the nexus one froyo (OC and Not)
I mean, we are using builds off the SD card.
Does that mean, if we get NAND support, android on our HD2 will be absolutely blazing fast?
Or does it mean that our quadrant scores are all wrong considering that we can only run android off SD?
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We get the scores we do due to the I/O performance being off down to running off the SD card.
This my setup running like for like against a Nexus One, as you can see we're almost identical in all departments except the I/O Performance.
See Screenshot.
Phil
kerman19 said:
We get the scores we do due to the I/O performance being off down to running off the SD card.
This my setup running like for like against a Nexus One, as you can see we're almost identical in all departments except the I/O Performance.
See Screenshot.
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Uh. Bigger bars = better, right? If so, that screenshot says the I/O on your HD2 is better than every phone listed there except for the Droid X. How can that be?
Those are all stock comparations.
My brother just got a Samsung Galaxy s i9000 and we bechmark it and it gave us only around 800 after a root is device and installed the samsung lag fix it went straight to 2200+ still running the stock rom thats 3x faster then it was before the system was touched with any fixes.
So i say if you score around 1000+ running from a SD card with out overclock on the HD2 its pretty good and reaching 1400+ thats even great. In what i can see is if we get android running from or NAND we can easy reach 2200+.
So when you comparing the benchmarks its only comparing with the stock you can expect too double the stock benchmarks if not triple it too see how you device realy compare too others .
Why does the droid x have such high I/O scores?
Installed a fresh mattc LeoNexus using only the stock launcher. I installed setCPU and adjusted settings according to the ones from starbase64 here
I achieved a score of 2185.
MartyLK said:
Just installed setCPU and achieved a score of 1700.
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Do you think you can post the setcpu.txt for achieving this score?
thanks =)
MartyLK said:
Installed a fresh mattc LeoNexus using only the stock launcher. I installed setCPU and adjusted settings according to the ones from starbase64 here
I achieved a score of 2185.
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Gah! someone beat me to the 2k barrier.... i got 1960 the other day, trying to reproduce..
Ok, so wen I had the n1 and the evo flashing a 2.2 based rom ment 2-3 times the quadrant scores over a 2.1 based rom, but on my new fangled droid x my score only went up a hundred points or so. Is there that much of difference between the 45nm omaps n the older snapdragon? Or is the moto 2.2 leak for the x crippled some how? Perhaps w/out JIT? Is there word as to why we get jipped on cpu speed increases?
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Find a way to flash custom roms. Then you'll see them jump. Until then, the stock kernal says, NO FU I TAKE MY TIME.
Quadrant is only a number and 1800-2200 is plenty high enough for me. It's not even remotely accurate or correct as far as judging processor speed lol.
If i remember right the leaked 2.2 for droid x doesn't have the JIT complier so we wont really see that big of a jump in those scores like you did with the N1 and Evo
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If i remember right the leaked 2.2 for droid x doesn't have the JIT complier so we wont really see that big of a jump in those scores like you did with the N1 and Evo
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Wrong. The leaked 2.2 doesn't have Stagefright enabled by default because videos will fail to play back. It definitely has JIT.
Well i have quadrant advanced wich breaks the scores down by section and the snapdragon has its cpu score triple because of jit where as the omap only gets a slight jump, so does this mean we aren't getting jit to function properly or what?
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The 2d 3d memory and i/o scores stay the same on both from 2.1 to 2.2 its just cpu that makes the snapdragon jump so drastically so id have to agree that it doest look like we got jit in the leaked 2.2 update and all the roms based on it. Or at the very least. Snapdragon makes much better use of it than the 45nm omap
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From what we've been told, this was one of the earliest releases of froyo for the Droid X... the Official Droid X Froyo release is a good 2 or 3 updates ahead of what we have available now.. its very possible that in its very early alpha stages (what we have) that JIT wasent activated then.. and when the legit release comes out in its final stage, it will have everything going
We will see when the ota comes out. I wont know if I will go through with the hassel intill I know that it can be rooted and and have recovery installed.
The snapdragon has 128 bit NEON/VFP registers with floating point hardware acceleration. The omap has 64 bit NEON/VFP registers. You will not see the same boost in quadrant\linpack like the snapdragon gets with 2.2.
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The snapdragon has 128 bit NEON/VFP registers with floating point hardware acceleration. The omap has 64 bit NEON/VFP registers. You will not see the same boost in quadrant\linpack like the snapdragon gets with 2.2.
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ok im by no means an idiot when it comes to computers but that one went over my head. lol
Hello every genius !!
Can someone add 3D driver optimisations in their fabulous kernel / rom like cyanogen mod7?
In cyanogen mod we can notice a real boost performance in 3d applications. So why not include the cyanogen 3d driver in next rom or kernel ?
Thank you all !
Jimmy from France
jimmy72 said:
Hello every genius !!
Can someone add 3D driver optimisations in their fabulous kernel / rom like cyanogen mod7?
In cyanogen mod we can notice a real boost performance in 3d applications. So why not include the cyanogen 3d driver in next rom or kernel ?
Thank you all !
Jimmy from France
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Because 3D diver from samsung is not open.
So nobody cant take it.
True near my words
Ivan from Russia
I'll quote my post from another topic
Guys, look at that:
http://glbenchmark.com/subtest_results_of_device.jsp?D=Google+Nexus+S&id=405
There are 12 tests of Nexus S in GLBenchmark, and 11 of them are below 2400 points (more or less like our SGS), but the most recent one (uploaded at 2011.02.11) scored 3025 points, more than Tegra 2. This result's is made by someone from GLBenchmark, and shows at "GLBenchmark team tested" page of the results. How is that possible?
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So, according to this benchmark, the performance of Nexus S'ses SGX540 increased dramatically somehow. And according to this article,
LG's software build also uses a newer version of Imagination Technologies' driver (1.6 instead of 1.5)
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So, maybe, in the latest update (2.3.2, or whatever) Nexus S got this new 1.6 GPU driver with increased up to 30% performance?
Now this is getting interesting!
any more info about this ?
fake?
I think ots a fake or it was a special rom, i use darys rom with voodoo and have 2537
But wich driver the Cyanogen team use in their cyanogen mod7 ?
Their 3d driver score in quadrant pro is very impresive, nearly 30 to 40% more than stock froyo 2.2 rom.
I will try to ask the cyanogen team.
Kepp in touch
// oh your right
Well.. This really looks interesting.
Now this is interesting
Looking forward to this
Surprised someone with a little more knowledge hasn't commented on this yet. Hopefully we'll have an answer soon
In the meantime -> report here if the sources (I mean precompiled module, which will be inside the package) are online
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But wich driver the Cyanogen team use in their cyanogen mod7 ?
Their 3d driver score in quadrant pro is very impresive, nearly 30 to 40% more than stock froyo 2.2 rom.
I will try to ask the cyanogen team.
Kepp in touch
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Are you sure? On my i9000 with CM7, quadrant 3D test even can't be finished normally.
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Are you sure? On my i9000 with CM7, quadrant 3D test even can't be finished normally.
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Gingerbread bug, same thing happens on the nexus s. I'm sure quadrant updated there app to work with gingerbread recently.
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Gingerbread bug, same thing happens on the nexus s. I'm sure quadrant updated there app to work with gingerbread recently.
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it seems that I need to upgrade my quadrant version.
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jimmy72 said:
But wich driver the Cyanogen team use in their cyanogen mod7 ?
Their 3d driver score in quadrant pro is very impresive, nearly 30 to 40% more than stock froyo 2.2 rom.
I will try to ask the cyanogen team.
Kepp in touch
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What is your quadrant GPU score in CM? On JS5 2.2.1 i have 2d:293; 3d:879. Are CM scores really better?
SGX540 is much better GPU than the one used in Tegra 2.
So I guess these results are caused by the newer driver version (1.6) released by IT.
with mitra rom i have these score on quadran advanced:
overclocked to 1.3ghz (on set cpu min and max @1.3)
total score 3702
at stock 1ghz (on set cpu min and max @1ghz)
total score 2865
good score for me with this rom.
i thing that the driver are updated...
Hello everyone!
I've been looking on the web for some time now about the new HTC Titans CPU,
clocked at 1.5GHz, named as Scorpion MSM8255 (same as ours (DHDs CPU)).
What do you guys think about it? Since our MSM8255 can "officialy" only hit 1GHz,
but now HTCs new MSM8255 can get it to 1.5GHz?!
I've searched the wiki also and i cannot find any differences.
Oh wait, is it that T at the end maybe? Just found it now.
HTC Titan: MSM8255T
Okay, so anyone know more about this? Feel free to comment
It's the same chipset. HTC did the same on the Flyer. They just OCed the cpu to 1.5 GHz since the cpu can handle it without problems.
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How easy is it to actually oc the dhd cpu and is it really wise?
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A fellow Bristolian! Hi!
How easy? Very. 1.3GHz is achievable on the DHD with stock volts (1.1V). Wise? Yeah, anything up to around 1.2V is sensible, and safe is far beyond that.
To be honest, nobody will need to go past 1.3GHz, virtually all ROMs run smoothly at that clock.
Haha hey nice surprise lol
Oh sounds good. Pretty new to this only just rooted and flashed custom ROM the other day. Wasn't sure if I should OC or not tho. Guessing it's going to reduce an already poor battery life haha
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affinity121 said:
How easy is it to actually oc the dhd cpu and is it really wise?
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I've had mine at 2GHz. I clocked it down to 1,3GHz after 10 minutes since it got REALLY hot. But it managed to run just fine at that speed.
affinity121 said:
Haha hey nice surprise lol
Oh sounds good. Pretty new to this only just rooted and flashed custom ROM the other day. Wasn't sure if I should OC or not tho. Guessing it's going to reduce an already poor battery life haha
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Well, all of the kernels undervolt as well. Almost all of them run the processor at 1.2GHz at stock voltage. So overclocking shouldn't shorten battery life. Also, remember that many of the ROMs have andrev or virtuous OC daemons installed, so they will be underclocked to minimum speed most of the time. So either way, battery life and performance will be improved.
As for overclocking to 2GHz, while it is possible, I'd very strongly suggest you don't do so.
But it does prove that firstly, the MSM8255 is very overclockable, unlike the larger processed chip in the Desire (which I think will really go as far as 1.2GHz only, correct me if I'm wrong...). The Flyer's processor is exactly the same, just selected (a process called binning) because it is "capable" of running at that speed at the required, and desired voltages with the required stability that the manufacturer (Qualcomm) wants.
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Well, all of the kernels undervolt as well. Almost all of them run the processor at 1.2GHz at stock voltage. So overclocking shouldn't shorten battery life. Also, remember that many of the ROMs have andrev or virtuous OC daemons installed, so they will be underclocked to minimum speed most of the time. So either way, battery life and performance will be improved.
As for overclocking to 2GHz, while it is possible, I'd very strongly suggest you don't do so.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm currently using rcmix runnymede ROM and its not oc'd. Would a OC of 1.3 be wise on stock voltages?
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1.3 might be pushing it. Mine needs 1.125V to be stable. I'd suggest that you probably do the same just in case, or even better 1.150.
The safest thing to do is take a look at the NCTeam kernel voltages, and use those (use IncrediControl from the Market to change voltages). They should work for virtually everybody. 1.3GHz is the speed I needed on Sense ROMs to be very smooth, you might find it is less though.
The desire hd doesnt actually overheat much @ 1.3ghz (I use that + Performance governor when playing some games), so the CPU can probably be overclocked quite alot without any problems
Other phones overheat quite a bit @ stock speeds...
Mine is set to 1,6GHz and it can handle 3d gaming for hours with the case only getting a bit warm. I wrote in a different thread that WP7 is getting an update and it will be able to run on DHD hardware. Maybe some devs will be interested in porting it to DHD then. It would be nice to dual boot Android and WP7. I can almost see all iPhone users faces.
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314 said:
The desire hd doesnt actually overheat much @ 1.3ghz (I use that + Performance governor when playing some games), so the CPU can probably be overclocked quite alot without any problems
Other phones overheat quite a bit @ stock speeds...
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Just to make sure I was clear, I meant that 1.3GHz could be pushing it on stock voltage, not that it could be pushing the limits of the chipset for speed. I think everyone got that, and knows that, but was just making sure.
As for heat, my phone didn't even heat up at 1.3GHz. You can push very far with no problems.
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Mine is set to 1,6GHz and it can handle 3d gaming for hours with the case only getting a bit warm. I wrote in a different thread that WP7 is getting an update and it will be able to run on DHD hardware. Maybe some devs will be interested in porting it to DHD then. It would be nice to dual boot Android and WP7. I can almost see all iPhone users faces.
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Don't forget that we need a wp7 bootloader. The android one can't handle wp7. Furthermore we probably have to repartition our internal memory (or sdcard if you want to run it from there) since wp7 uses other partitions than android (not sure about that, but i guess we have to.)
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is there a way how to speed up the gingerbread on 3d gaming like on froyo?
in froyo my NFS Shift is like 55 - 60 fps but in gingerbread its just around 30 - 40 fps..
same on Quadrant in 3d rendering the red and blue dna like rolling figure is 49 - 50 fps in FROYO but in gingerbread it wont pass 30 fps
any tweaks on how to boost 3d rendering speed?
First of all, wrong section
Froyo indeed had better hardware acceleration than gb, and the kernel was also a lot better, Samsung rushed gb and messed things, but does it really affect you, the human eye can see @ ~30fps max, so does it matter?
honestly im seeing the difference.. 30fps is like lagging/stuttering to my naked eye..
i dont know but maybe its because I'm used to a high FPS on my computer.. the lowest FPS i see on my PC game is 90 fps. that's why I can differenciate 30fps to 60fps
cdesai said:
First of all, wrong section
Froyo indeed had better hardware acceleration than gb, and the kernel was also a lot better, Samsung rushed gb and messed things, but does it really affect you, the human eye can see @ ~30fps max, so does it matter?
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Some people can really tell the difference. Sadly, I'm one of them
But I started using the tab as more of a work device than gaming, so the newer features of Gingerbread far outweighed the gaming performance of Froyo for me.
Karry025 said:
honestly im seeing the difference.. 30fps is like lagging/stuttering to my naked eye..
i dont know but maybe its because I'm used to a high FPS on my computer.. the lowest FPS i see on my PC game is 90 fps. that's why I can differenciate 30fps to 60fps
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codewisp said:
Some people can really tell the difference. Sadly, I'm one of them
But I started using the tab as more of a work device than gaming, so the newer features of Gingerbread far outweighed the gaming performance of Froyo for me.
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LOL i'm also one of them, and this was one of the reasons HC needed froyo bootloader!
actually in terms of UI rendering and office apps specially on loading.. Gingerbread beats froyo over a mile ahead.. gingerbread is smoother only the 3d gaming is the problem.. but very well going to stick on gingerbread 2.3.6..
and btw.. Froyo also allows to underclock the CPU with higher value than gingerbread.. on froyo I can run 1.4ghz with -350mv stable but on gingerbread I cant get past -50mv stable on 1.4ghz..
any other tweak on how are the others getting a monstrous 3K score on quadrant?
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actually in terms of UI rendering and office apps specially on loading.. Gingerbread beats froyo over a mile ahead.. gingerbread is smoother only the 3d gaming is the problem.. but very well going to stick on gingerbread 2.3.6..
and btw.. Froyo also allows to underclock the CPU with higher value than gingerbread.. on froyo I can run 1.4ghz with -350mv stable but on gingerbread I cant get past -50mv stable on 1.4ghz..
any other tweak on how are the others getting a monstrous 3K score on quadrant?
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GB is faster than froyo, it would more, but Samsung rushed out the update, and that ruined it partially.
UV is kernel issue, try with some other kernel first, and -350mv is insane!
3k in quadrant is nothing, its just a score, can be fooled, mostly its fooled in I/O part
-350mv running stable on 1.4ghz is true..
have you tried a FROYO with any kuxodaxi's kernel?
i suggest you try it and see for yourself
yeah Gingerbread is faster in froyo but not on samsung..
on tab froyo beats gingerbread in terms of 3d gaming
by the way what is the best I/O scheduler for you?
Karry025 said:
-350mv running stable on 1.4ghz is true..
have you tried a FROYO with any kuxodaxi's kernel?
i suggest you try it and see for yourself
yeah Gingerbread is faster in froyo but not on samsung..
on tab froyo beats gingerbread in terms of 3d gaming
by the way what is the best I/O scheduler for you?
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Honestly, no
I got my tab from my dad sometime back, and i had already updated to gb via *cough* kies *cough*, so didnt get a chance to try it out more.
i hope someone can port the UI speed of Gingerbread to the Froyo XD
Please adopt a little common sense when creating new threads.
Unless you have developed something, ROM/MOD/etc.. then the Development section is off limits for threads. Post it in General or Q&A.
You do not want to anger the XDA God of Tidiness
why do you have a common sense to spare? lol just kiddin