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Nexus S 4g for Evo

Good morning everyone. I have a delima and would like everyones opinion. I switched from ATT (iPhone) to Sprint Nexus S 4g last weekend. To be honest i am not happy with the Nexus. I know the beauty of this phone is supposed to be the ability to customize and the fact that the phone has no "bloatware" loaded but i am just not thrilled with the phone.
My question is this, would it be a mistake for me to take this phone back and get the Evo Evo 4g.
Thanks in advance for everyones opinion.

returning the nexus
Welcome to Sprint!
I have owned an Evo since it first came out and have loved it. Currently running cyanogenmod.
You are so close to the release date of the Evo 3D you might want to consider that, otherwise I don't think you will be disappointed in the Evo 4G.
Good luck.

As long as you are inside of the 30 return policy you should have no problem trading nexus s for evo.
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Honestly as much as I like my Evo, you won't get as good performance as you would with your Nexus S.

q711179 said:
Welcome to Sprint!
I have owned an Evo since it first came out and have loved it. Currently running cyanogenmod.
You are so close to the release date of the Evo 3D you might want to consider that, otherwise I don't think you will be disappointed in the Evo 4G.
Good luck.
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I realize the 3D is due out soon. My only choice is to hope it is realeased before my 30 days are up and I can trade my phone in. I would be able to trade either the Nexus or the Evo so i will keep my fingers crossed.

How many days do you have left?

Hardware wise the EVO's GPU is absolutely garbage. Its about 4-5x slower than the Nexus S. The NS has the better quality display and 4G behavior is much better too. Otherwise you won't notice much difference.
Software wise the EVO 4G is a dead end compared to the NS. There's pretty much no way HTC is going to update the EVO to ice cream. Not only is the NS going to have it on day one but it'll be fully working too. The EVO will probably get a half working or very buggy port at some point. Plus as always the NS will be first in line for a ton of new Android things. Goggle wallet being a good example.
Bottom line: hardware wise the NS is a marginally better phone with the big advantage of having a GPU that is still comparable to even dual core chips. Software wise its a blow out in favor of the Nexus S.
I came from a EVO 4G and still own a ATT iPhone 4. Coming from a iPhone you'll never find a Android phone that offers a similar level of user experience. But the advantage is in Google services. Getting the Nexus S will keep you up to date and ice cream should narrow the UI/UX gap when it comes. Stepping down to the EVO 4G and sense won't help you much.
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avengersdad said:
Good morning everyone. I have a delima and would like everyones opinion. I switched from ATT (iPhone) to Sprint Nexus S 4g last weekend. To be honest i am not happy with the Nexus. I know the beauty of this phone is supposed to be the ability to customize and the fact that the phone has no "bloatware" loaded but i am just not thrilled with the phone.
My question is this, would it be a mistake for me to take this phone back and get the Evo Evo 4g.
Thanks in advance for everyones opinion.
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Just get the 3D and forget about it. Its on a different level than both phones.

swaze said:
Just get the 3D and forget about it. Its on a different level than both phones.
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Better hardware yeah, but I still think the NS will offer the better software experience in the long term
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Award Tour said:
Better hardware yeah, but I still think the NS will offer the better software experience in the long term
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Good for you......I think otherwise. And???

I will never own another phone by Samsung again. So I would definitely get the EVO or get a refund and wait for the 3D

swaze said:
Good for you......I think otherwise. And???
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Any reasons to think so?
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I wouldn't exactly say it's better, it's just aosp which means as soon as google finishes an update, it's pushed the the Nexus series. Personally I prefer aosp over Sense, but to the average person who doesn't root who doesn't know the difference between Gingerbread, Icecream, etc etc then a simple launcher replacement would do. Out of the 2, I would pick the 3d over the S but the 3d is not an option in this case.

3D over Nexus S. Assuming you're on XDA, you already root so getting latest AOSP isn't a concern.
And did you know HTC listens?
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Cares said:
3D over Nexus S. Assuming you're on XDA, you already root so getting latest AOSP isn't a concern.
And did you know HTC listens?
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Getting fully working AOSP is another thing. I was on CM7 and left without hesistation because of all the little bugs. Besides his choices seem to be limited to the EVO 4G and NS4G.
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Any reasons to think so?
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Android 2.3.4 with HW acceleration (specifically for dual cores), and then Ice Cream with all the enhancements to the software. I would think having better hardware along with software that makes the best use of that hardware is gonna be the reason.

swaze said:
Android 2.3.4 with HW acceleration (specifically for dual cores), and then Ice Cream with all the enhancements to the software. I would think having better hardware along with software that makes the best use of that hardware is gonna be the reason.
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I've been enjoying the limited GPU acceleration under 2.3 for a couple of days now (regular NS users were for months). Judging by the average amount of time that HTC takes to update their phones, I probably would have been using ice cream for several months before the 3D got it. And by then I'd probably would have already or will be close to upgrading to the next Nexus with a 2nd generation dual core or even quad core CPU. That's why the Nexus will almost always have a better software experience.
..and that's without saying that the Nexus is Googles playground where they experiement with new mobile services like Google wallet.
Edit: The more I think about it, the more crazy it seems. It took HALF A YEAR for any phone to be officially upgraded to 2.3 and CM7 still isn't as stable as a stock N1 or NS.
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Award Tour said:
I've been enjoying the limited GPU acceleration under 2.3 for a couple of days now (regular NS users were for months). Judging by the average amount of time that HTC takes to update their phones, I probably would have been using ice cream for several months before the 3D got it. And by then I'd probably would have already or will be close to upgrading to the next Nexus with a 2nd generation dual core or even quad core CPU. That's why the Nexus will almost always have a better software experience.
..and that's without saying that the Nexus is Googles playground where they experiement with new mobile services like Google wallet.
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Maybe, Maybe not. Far be it from me to say so, but I am not relying on HTC for anything. Just like I am running a fully functional EVO 3d ROM on my evo with no issues whatsoever, when they said that was impossible. And CM7 has not had any bugs for a long time as far as im concerned. Been running it prior to this kingdom rom and it was spot on with every feature working. So having that option along with any update put out by the dev's here on the 3D is fine with me. I know they can make these devices run far beyond what HTC or google can or has intended them too.
EDIT: BTW, the whole 2.3 thing was caused by google. You do know that carriers were set to release 2.3, and then google came back with a revision and they decided to hold off to revise to that version before releasing instead of releasing then having to release another one right afterwards.

swaze said:
Maybe, Maybe not. Far be it from me to say so, but I am not relying on HTC for anything. Just like I am running a fully functional EVO 3d ROM on my evo with no issues whatsoever, when they said that was impossible. And CM7 has not had any bugs for a long time as far as im concerned. Been running it prior to this kingdom rom and it was spot on with every feature working. So having that option along with any update put out by the dev's here on the 3D is fine with me. I know they can make these devices run far beyond what HTC or google can or has intended them too.
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Last time I checked the 3D ROM port has GPU driver issues that'll never allow it to run as stable as a stock EVO 3D. CM doesn't have bugs? check out the stable or nightly threads.
Bottom line, if any of those ROMs ever shipped on a commercial product, it wouldn't fly and that's if it could go pass carrier/OEM producting testing. That I can guarantee.
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Award Tour said:
Last time I checked the 3D ROM port has GPU driver issues that'll never allow it to run as stable as a stock EVO 3D. CM doesn't have bugs? check out the stable or nightly threads.
Bottom line, if any of those ROMs ever shipped on a commercial product, it wouldn't fly and that's if it could go pass carrier/OEM prosucting testing. That I can guarantee.
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Why would I need to read threads when the ROM was on my phone for the entire time up until a few days ago. Lets see My personal experiance vs someone else's in a thread. I think I can go on my personal experiance alot more reliably than someone else's...dont you think?

[Q] Anybody else holding out on upgrading to the 3D

Because sprint might use LTE and WiMAX? If this happens by the end of the, the next Evo that supports both will far surpass the current product.
I already have high hopes for the next Evo.

LTE will start rolling out in Q4 of 2012. There were several reports about that date being solid because the Wimax contract with Clear will end Dec31 2012 and Sprint will be ready to make the switch. This is all based on contract dates and spectrum requests made through FCC by Sprint.
I just picked up the Evo on a new 2 year, but I am going to use the 30 day money back thing to switch up to the Motorola Photon 4G and ride that till the end of my contract. I'll still be in this forum though as my GF and son have the Evo 4G and I will be swapping them out to a better rom once the shipping 2.3.3 is rooted

reddragon72 said:
LTE will start rolling out in Q4 of 2012. There were several reports about that date being solid because the Wimax contract with Clear will end Dec31 2012 and Sprint will be ready to make the switch. This is all based on contract dates and spectrum requests made through FCC by Sprint.
I just picked up the Evo on a new 2 year, but I am going to use the 30 day money back thing to switch up to the Motorola Photon 4G and ride that till the end of my contract. I'll still be in this forum though as my GF and son have the Evo 4G and I will be swapping them out to a better rom once the shipping 2.3.3 is rooted
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That's not to far off, I actually just recently got my contract in April, if the date is set in stone, it aligns perfectly with my next upgrade that could utilize LTE.
Any specific reason for the switch to Photon 4G?

Nope...I'm holding out because I am not impressed at all with the evo 3d. Waiting for the galaxy s II
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AdriVelazquez said:
That's not to far off, I actually just recently got my contract in April, if the date is set in stone, it aligns perfectly with my next upgrade that could utilize LTE.
Any specific reason for the switch to Photon 4G?
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Remember dates are crazy and that is why they change so much.
And the photon has everything I want. but mainly the wiimote attachment and HDMI mirroring. All the HD games are also really nice.
With my old Vibrant the wiimote would not connect and kinda bummed me with all the games I could play VIA my TV. So the Photon fits what I have been wanting for a long time. Also the dock and productivity apps sound pretty nice as well.

Not gonna hold off for a standard that may or may not come in some undetermined amount of time.
I'm just not upgrading because:
A) I never buy technology when its first been released. I did that one time, Palm Pre. Never again.
B) Full NAND write has not been achieved. I love my AOSP.
C) Samsung's next generation looks promising and the Photon wouldn't be bad if they unlock them bootloaders.

mattykinsx said:
A) I never buy technology when its first been released. I did that one time, Palm Pre. Never again.
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lol
same here. OS is good, but the hardware is just horrible.
I personally am holding out until it gets rooted with some good support behind it. 4G sucks in my area so it doesnt matter regardless.
Heres to hoping good things come to the EVO4G with the kernel release from HTC. I'm personally holding out to see if that support picks up on the 4G before leaving for the 3D. MikG is holding me out and enjoying the ride.

AdriVelazquez said:
Because sprint might use LTE and WiMAX? If this happens by the end of the, the next Evo that supports both will far surpass the current product.
I already have high hopes for the next Evo.
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I was excited about it when i heard about the phone but once i played with it, i realized that it's not that big of a difference from the OG EVO . Everything it can do my OG can do it better with the right ROM and Tweaks outside the 3D of course so i'm sticking with me EVO until something wayyyyyy better comes along .

sinnedone said:
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same here. OS is good, but the hardware is just horrible.l
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That hardware would have to step up to be a piece of crap, that's how bad it is.

To those saying the hardware isn't a great improvement would be wrong..its a great improvement ..even after stretching my og EVO to its limits it cannot compare to the 3d out of the box..you may say " what can the 3d do that the og cant" um I'm.not really sure but it just does said things better and smoother and faster..its very noticible with games etc... Those who are holding out due to root...well I understand that..when it is rooted it will be an incredible beast..as far as the photon ..I would rather take my og back..I.dislike MOTOblur ..

I am running my og evo4g with synergy Rom and it is awesome. They incorporated sense 3 into it and I love it. From what I can tell it has made my software basically the same as the 3d. I can't wait to see what the synergy team does with the EVO3d hardware. I'm not due for upgrade til 2012 oct anyway so I'm happy with my synergized EVO til then
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The 4G is a great phone ..I loved the experience I had with it and miss flashing a new ROM every fee weeks..the devs are fantastic and have kept that thing going strong ...I will always think of my og EVO fondly

Yeah I have both phones and my OG EVO is just fine with synergy. I don't really like the EVO 3d design. Screen seems smaller due to stretching height and taking away width. I also don't like the back cover at all. Seems badly designed. The software seems to be running st a low frame rate also. Doesn't seem like a big upgrade to me. I know Im going to be labeled a troll and tons of retarded pics will be coming but oh well. The 3d seems like a gimmick and its fun for all of an hour. High scores mean nothing to me so please save the quadrant argument. Coming from a older feature phone or even a hero would be an upgrade but from the EVO to 3d, it doesn't make much sense in my opinion. Before I get chewed, this is my opinion. Maybe it will change in the next couple weeks but right now its where I stand. Oh and I didn't have to start a new thread to say this. That's not a shot at the OP either. I just see all the hate on the 3s aide of this site and thought I would add a disclaimer to my statements.
I'll save my upgrade for something different. Sense is getting a little boring.

On day to.day tasks you won't see much of a difference..I mean how much faster can it get..the one thing I will say though is that I feel my 4G is stretched to its limits and that the hardware is getting old..the soc is more than twice as powerful and the.same.can be said of the gpu..I think that eventually the differences between the phones will become apparent . That being said the 3d does have some bugs to work out..one in particular that drives me crazy is when I'm typing...if.u.scroll or touch the screen in anyway it brings up like the edit cut and paste icon..it always happens ..also I can't seem the hit the space key without pressing the period button..those are minor gripes that I'm sure will be worked out

I'm sure the EVO3D will be a total beast once full root is accomplished, I don't doubt that at all, but as is, my fully rooted, custom rom, kernel, and tweaked EVO4G is as fast if not faster in some respects to the stock EVO3D.
Obviously the EVO3D is superior when it comes to gaming and watching flash content, but aside from that, my launcher transitions faster and much smoother than the EVO3D, my browser appears just as fast in general use, apps load just as fast, etc.
The EVO3D is a great phone, don't get me wrong, but until full root is accomplished it is being held back from realizing its true potential.
I read that temp-root has been accomplished though and some have even been able to overclock the processor to 1.8 GHz, which is pretty insane. I'm sure the phone is buttery smooth at those speeds.

firmbiz94 said:
The 4G is a great phone ..I loved the experience I had with it and miss flashing a new ROM every fee weeks..the devs are fantastic and have kept that thing going strong ...I will always think of my og EVO fondly
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Yup Same here... Before I left the 4G, I was on the MiKG 2.2 and that beast was flying which made me really wait a few before getting the EVO3D, but I know hardware wise this 3D will really be a beast once everything is all said and done.

ninoriff said:
Yup Same here... Before I left the 4G, I was on the MiKG 2.2 and that beast was flying which made me really wait a few before getting the EVO3D, but I know hardware wise this 3D will really be a beast once everything is all said and done.
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so, what is it like going from an 8.0 camera to a 5.0? jw

I'm using kingsrom longed London rls2 odex and it is the fastes ROM I have ever used.
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This ROM is sick. Feels like I have a 3d.
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stinkyprince said:
This ROM is sick. Feels like I have a 3d.
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Use a 3D, and you'll see the difference, it's night and day.
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Might need a new Phone, Advice?

I currently have an HTC Evo 4g. Love it. I have all kinds of custom ROMs I run and love to hack and mess around.
Anyway, after some drops things are acting a bit funky. Still works and screen is ok even though it has cracks. But I'm considering getting a new phone with Xmas money. So what should I do?
Leaving Sprint is not an option, don't care about physical keyboards, I need something fast and powerful, I don't care about sense, and needs to be hackable. I can wait if I have good reason, I heard Sprint may go to LTE should I wait for those phones? What about quad cores, should I wait?
Right now it seems like Photon or Evo 3D. I'm leaning toward Photon due to International support but this isn't a requirement and it still seems like Sprint doesn't know what it means yet.
Poke holes,tell me what I'm missing, or, let me know what your thoughts are.
I greatly appreciate any help and thoughts!!
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My honest vote is wait if you can just because they are going to roll out LTE and said they will start sellig LTE phones come 2012
Otherwise if you need the support for international go with photon but personally id either get the sgs ii or 3d if it can't wait also i think the hack for the photon breaks 4g not sure if they fixed that problem. also with 3d if u have hboot 1.50+ you can only hack via HTC unlock.
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I just went from EVO to the Samsung Epic 4G Touch and so far this thing is awesome. Everything is so fast and smooth, the screen is nothing short of amazing, and battery life is WAY better than I could have ever hoped for on the EVO. I also played around with the EVO 3D and the Photon, but the E4GT impressed me far more than the others, so I went with it. Very happy with it so far.
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love the evo but mines broke

Thanks everyone!
I hadn't considered E4GT. I might look more closely at it. My only question, is it easy to hack? My wife has OG Epic and it sucks to root and load custom ROMs compared to Evo. I hate how you can't boot to recovery.
I'm a picky hacker I guess ...
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I'm considering for a next device too but not quite sure if I should wait for next gen devices. More responses will be helpful.
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my line is eligible for an upgrade too, but i'm gonna wait til some tegra 3 phones come out with lte compatibility. especially now that ICS source is out (and if ICS AOSP runs smoothly on our evos), then i will definitely wait it out til next year.

Photon lacks dev support. Couldve been a decent phone. I would say evo3d or epic touch. Et seems to get los when rooted but idk
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Why not pay the deductible and get you a new evo? There is a chance you might even get a 3d evo by asurion.
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If you could have ANY of the currently available Sprint phones....

Which one and why?
I'll start.
I'm looking for an Android phone that just works. No radio issues, not major battery issues, etc. Also, I want it to be 4G.
I'd like the Samsung Galaxy S II, but I am weary about the radio issues.
The Galaxy Nexus is nice, but truthfully, I'm somewhat disillusioned about the lack of communication regarding the upcoming (hopefully) updates for my current 4G.
iPhone? Meh. I like widgets.
Almost seems like I would be best off with the Photon. Why did this phone not get anywhere near the fanfare as the SGSII?

The photon was probably not noticed due to timing a lot people were probably on contract with an evo, and maybe an epic.
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And moto s locked boot loader approach
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And moto s locked boot loader approach
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oh man that's loose butthole

The Photon forums has custom roms, so it must be able to be rooted. Also it is reported to have a really good radio with clear reception. Something the NS and NS4G is lacking for sure. Another plus, is that it woks with that Motorola laptop dock thing.

Galaxy S2 right now, but would be hesitant about 480x800 on a 4.5inch screen. I will be going for the galaxy nexus or GS3 depending on timing of the releases and how much better the specs of the GS3 actually are. If it is only processor I will go with the g-nex since really you would never notice the difference. If the screen is somehow better then GS3.

Nexus a 4g or a galaxy nexus. If you're looking at anything today other than stock Android I can tell you for sure that you'll be disappointed.
I've owned an epic 4g and galaxy tab and both were good devices... But hampered by their modifications from Samsung
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If you're looking at anything today other than stock Android I can tell you for sure that you'll be disappointed.
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You feel this way about Sense too?
I loved my Evo when I had it.

SComp23 said:
You feel this way about Sense too?
I loved my Evo when I had it.
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after owning a Evo4g with sense and trading it in to sprint for my Evo3d, I'd have to agree with the anything but stock quote... I traded my mother my Evo3d for her NS4G; best phone decision I've ever made. This phone just gets so much love from XDA that the only phone I could see myself switching to is a GNEX once Sprint gets LTE.
My long 2cents hahah
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Og evo 4g ics vs evo 4g lte

Okay, so EVO 3D is expected to receive ICS update in June if I recall. I am assuming that this is the break we have all been waiting for, an updated kernel that supports Wimax for ICS. Will Devs be able to transfer this ICS goodness over to the OG phone? Does this mean that us OG EVO users will be able to have some new life breathed into our phones?
I really want the new EVO 4G LTE, but LTE is not coming to my area (Sacramento) for a while. I get great Wimax coverage and don't want to give that up. I listen to the radio on my phone all day at work and tether my tablet with streaming video. It's great. But did I mention I really want the new EVO 4G LTE? LOL. The camera looks awesome, and we are all due for some new hardware. That being said, I can probably wait a little while longer if it can get an ICS rom on my OG EVO if it supports Wimax.
What say you?

"What say you?"
That my 3devo is still faster than my Evo 4g.

iwalkthrowwalls said:
Okay, so EVO 3D is expected to receive ICS update in June if I recall. I am assuming that this is the break we have all been waiting for, an updated kernel that supports Wimax for ICS. Will Devs be able to transfer this ICS goodness over to the OG phone? Does this mean that us OG EVO users will be able to have some new life breathed into our phones?
I really want the new EVO 4G LTE, but LTE is not coming to my area (Sacramento) for a while. I get great Wimax coverage and don't want to give that up. I listen to the radio on my phone all day at work and tether my tablet with streaming video. It's great. But did I mention I really want the new EVO 4G LTE? LOL. The camera looks awesome, and we are all due for some new hardware. That being said, I can probably wait a little while longer if it can get an ICS rom on my OG EVO if it supports Wimax.
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I agree. The specs may be beefed up on the new EVO LTE but when it comes down to just pure functionality you would probably get more out of the OG EVO. Especially when it comes to 4G/Wimax and Dev support. I mean who knows when that beast will get unlocked and rooted. Also another thing that a user brought up what the fact that the battery is sealed in. Basically meaning NO BATTERY PULLS! So could this mean more pricked phones? I mean a battery pull can be your best friend and get you out of the screwed up state. What has HTC employeed that could replace that? Makes me very nervious about ROM swapping on the LTE

Sorry. I've been watching a lot of Game of Thrones
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Don't get me wrong, Wimax is not the greatest. I hate it when I have to turn it off just because a web page will not load. I read that that was a network problem. On the other hand, when it does work I get 5mbps. 3hG only get 800kbps. Big jump. Also, there is a benefit in having two networks. Sometimes I get Wimax when 3g is unavailable. I can also use Wimax and the phone at the same time... damn I want the new EVO though.
Yea I had to do a battery pull or two. Hopefully EVOLTE will be easily rooted.
Cross my fingers Devs can build an compatible ICS kernal with Wimax support when EVO 3D gets updated

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I agree. The specs may be beefed up on the new EVO LTE but when it comes down to just pure functionality you would probably get more out of the OG EVO. Especially when it comes to 4G/Wimax and Dev support. I mean who knows when that beast will get unlocked and rooted. Also another thing that a user brought up what the fact that the battery is sealed in. Basically meaning NO BATTERY PULLS! So could this mean more pricked phones? I mean a battery pull can be your best friend and get you out of the screwed up state. What has HTC employeed that could replace that? Makes me very nervious about ROM swapping on the LTE
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I think i read somewhere that there will be a button sequence that will accomplish the same thing as a battery pull, just as on the iphone and ipods.

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I think i read somewhere that there will be a button sequence that will accomplish the same thing as a battery pull, just as on the iphone and ipods.
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Hold the power button ~10sec.
Found on Pg13 of the leaked user manual.