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Been lurking on here for a while, great site, helped me get my phone rooted and more useful than stock. My phone is however starting to give me some sass...
Got the Sprint CDMA Hero back in Feb. Loved it for about a week, then hated it.. Started to run REALLY slow (like 1-2 sec to flip between homescreens), so I took it back and got a new one. Again worked great for about a week then it slowed down slightly- said screw it and rooted it.
Wow. Loaded up Fresh 1.1 with the Gumbo Kernel (2.6.27), and SetCPU. Occasional force close aside, it became the phone I thought it should. When the official 2.1 update dropped, I looked back into the custom ROM to take advantage.
Familiar with Fresh's stuff, I decided to try out his stock ROM. After updated the RA, I loaded the ROM- then everything went downhill...
It was Slower than my stock 1.5 was, and force closed constantly. The phone was unusable. So I decided to load FreshToast. Wouldn't load- would get stuck on the HTC logo as it booted, like it would just freeze there. So I reverted back to my fresh 1.1 backup.
I then tried a few other ROMs, none of them would work either. Only ones I remember were iZEN: got the same HTC boot loop, and DAMAGE ROM: which worked for about 3 days before constant force closes.
Ultimately I went back to fresh 1.1 frustrated. That was a few weeks ago, now my fresh 1.1 is starting to wig out on me! Constant force closes of SenseUI, apps are unstable, and Wi-Fi tethering crashes my phone.
I really want to run FreshToast, or at least give it a go, but I don't know what to do at this point. Begining to think something is wrong with my phone (I have heard from many people personally that the CDMA hero is just generall unstable)
Please any suggestions would be appreciated.
Lots of things going on here, first I would say in my own personal experience my heroCDMA has been very stable, even overclocked to 768. I never get FCs unless I did something wrong messing with an APK or something.
Are you using Apps2sd? If so is your EXT 2 upgraded to EXT 3? And is your dalvik on internal memory or SDcard? Any particular program thats FCing on you, or just completely random? Are you wiping between roms(data, dalvik, EXT)?
I would give Fresh Rom 2.1.2 a go, and if you can get it stable and really want overclocking, flash an overclocked kernel over it. such as...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705074
I've also had nothing but a stable platform out of this phone. Granted, pokey compared to current offerings, but definitely stable. My phone also started out as 1.5 from Sprint, but after getting tired of waiting for the official 2.1, I rooted, loaded RA 1.62, and have been rom-hopping ever since.
Just to rule out anything basic, you haven't applied the official Sprint 2.1 update or OTA patch, right?
I tried a few rooms from here and had stability issues as well. Try going to android central forums and flashing the honeybun rom. I have iced honeybun lite with the overclock kernel and overclock widget set to 710. It is very smooth and stable.
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Not running Apps2SD. I perform a nandroid backup, then wipe everything it will let me every time I try a new ROM. Running RA 1.62.
FCs are mainly random. I'm ok with one once in a while, not a big deal. But SenseUI, or Fresh itself will FC at least twice a day. No official Sprint patch/updates have been performed since rooting it.
I guess I should clarify the "unstable" comment I made. I know 6 people with the CDMA Hero, Only 2 of them haven't had any trouble. The rest of them have had at least 2 phones because it was practically unusable slow (very similar to what I mentioned with mine), one of them has gone through 5 of them- everyone has crashed. Maybe they just send us the bad batches here in the Midwest lol.
So those personal testimonies have always had me frustrated when it runs slow, cause everyone on the net doesn't seem to have these problems. I do have the "with Google" version, not sure if that impacts anything at all.
Is there any hard wipe I can do to start from scratch? It is Very possible I tweaked something wrong early on and it's just catching up with me. When I get a chance I'll try that honeybun ROM, Fazulka.
Thanks for the replies!
Aloysius 2.1 LWP (not overclocked) has been fast and rock solid. Some Hero's (like mine) have issues with the OC'ing so it might just be that. Try using a non overclocked ROM.
I have the same exact phone you do and I can testify that there is performance issues with these phones. ....I've personally been through 2 of these phones and I've got this one rooted running buufed 2.1.6 which runs okay although the older buufed roms Were way better.. not much u can do with the force closes..I'd boot back to stock and see how it responds...leaving it rooted on stock software should let u know if u messed anything up.. then try a rom like buufed 2.1.2..that's a good stable version but it doesn't come with sprint voicemail and work from there
I'm on Fresh 1.0.1 right now, and have Sense turned off (I do miss the wigets ). I see that Fresh 3 requires a wipe, which I really don't want to do anymore than I have to. Therefore, I was thinking about making the switch to CM6.
Since I don't use Sense, should I make the switch?
Thanks for your imput XDA.
cm6 is asop so no sense..just think of all the things sense offers aside from the launcher..if u can go with out then why not try cm6
Agreed...do a nandroid backup and then flash CM. If you don't like it...restore back. I like CM6, I'm just waitn on 4g to work... then ill go
Nandroid, try it. If you don't like it go back and do Fresh.
I just went through all the sense roms and there is no comparison to the speed and flow of ASOP.
I'll try Damage control 3.5 when that comes out of beta. Thus far Cyogen has been the best for me.
Waiting for a proper kernel until I give Fresh and Damage Control another go. Until then I'm loving CM6 RC1.
currently on the latest fresh and its just fine. Waiting on CM6
Thanks. I think I'll made the move to CM6 tonight. Where do I get the nightly build at, or is the RC1 the best bet right now? I already did an appbrain sync and nandroid backup.
http://buildbot.teamdouche.net/nightly/supersonic/
That's a link to the latest nightly, the most recent one is smooth as butter if you do a full wipe. You may want to go check out the nightly thread for the Google apps update zip, because I'm not sure they're included (like the market and maps and such).
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What's ASOP?
CM6 is very lean and fast, super responsive, crispy, sexy, minimalist .... my all around favorite.
Recently I have been giving sense another chance. I tried the stock rooted 2.2 ... didn't like it. Now I'm trying BakedSnack with theme, and I really like it! I don't really like sense all that much though, especially the dialer. I like everything to be simple. AOSP is much simpler and cleaner IMO than Sense.
thanks. I'll download it and load it up, since either way I go, I'm looking at a wipe, sadly. New nightlys don't req a wipe, do they?
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The latest nightlies do not require a wipe. FYI you can follow the commit process here to see what changes between nightlies:
http://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_htc_supersonic/commits/froyo
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CyanogenMod, FTW! OP, you don't actually have Sense turned off (only the laucnher disabled). Flash CM6 and discover the glory of AOSP.
I have been using and upgrading nightly to CM6 nightlies for the past week or more, however yesterday I tried Fresh 3 with netarchy's kernel to unlock fps. Anyway, I am not crazy about Sense launcher, so I switched over to Launcher Pro. I have to say that my phone feels much snappier/smoother with Fresh 3. I am also getting more fps than with cm6. My latest test using fps2 was 55. Quadrant scores 1255 with no oc and linpack is right at 40 give or take 1-2. I am quite happy with those numbers and I like having 4g and the Sense camera. By the way, the latest wimax/radio update REALLY woke up 4g. My speeds went from 1-2mbps to 5-7.
Just started checking out CM6, was holding off due to the lack of 4G but I'm already glad I did. Still have yet to put the battery levels through its paces without making massive changes but I've already decided this is where I ned to be. 4G can wait for me.
Definitely worth a look.
Honestly, 4G is nothing but a huge battery hog. I could only see it being useful if you were tethering and connected via USB or AC adapter.
I have a NAND backup of CM6 but I'm currently running Fresh 3.1 with an FPS unlock kernal. I miss AOSP's look and feel but I'm enjoying having the nicer camera app and working 4G right now.
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Honestly, 4G is nothing but a huge battery hog. I could only see it being useful if you were tethering and connected via USB or AC adapter.
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4G is indeed a battery hog but I can't live without it . In my room I get little to no Wifi coverage (Router so far away) and normally talk on the phone quite a lot. Without 4G, I wouldn't be able to talk and use data at the same time.
As far as the OP's question, I have tried all the ROMs (including CM6) and it is indeed IMO the best one available. I am not using it at the moment because of the lack of 4G and HDMI (I use it nearly everyday). The moment CM6 gets those 2, I will be back in a heart beat!
I flashed CM for under an hour and then went to Fresh. I like some others will probably give it a go once the 4G is fixed. Then again I am a huge Sense fan and love the widgets that go with it. That beiing said, what do those of you that favor CM or something besides Sense use? I want a clock with the weather and the weather animation on the full screen. Is this only apart of Sense?
So to answer the OP's question IMO I'll stick with Fresh for a while longer although I tend to try them all out as often as they are updated.
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Honestly, 4G is nothing but a huge battery hog. I could only see it being useful if you were tethering and connected via USB or AC adapter.
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True, but I do use it enough that I was avoiding CM6 because it didn't have it. But I'm willing to give it up for a while. Can always go back, but at the same time I don't think I'll really be missing it. HDMI on the other hand I don't use, so that's not a biggie.
Is there any true bugless/very minimally bugged ROM out there? Tried CM6, CM6, Evervolv, and some others. I'm talking something that can be fully fixed if there are bugs in it, or is there a ROM that will basically be a stock evo with the sprint garbage removed from it, i was wondering maybe I could stick a savagedzen kernel on it and get some better speed from it as well with bettery battery life. I know there is a fresh evo but I don't think that this ROM gets rid of the junkware sprint puts on? Since quadrant scores and the like are mostly useless I'm beginning to even wonder, are you "truly" getting any more speed out of a custom ROM over stock without getting bugs?
Right now I'm on CM7, everything is wonderful, of course except for the bugs. The random 3g -> 1x for no reason, making the internet not even usable. The random mini-lockups/terrible lag that I can get, etc are all just too annoying to deal with when they pop up. It's irritating when I go to my friends and say "here check this out, this thing has more battery life and as fast a he-...oh well actually my internet on it is bugging out right now and the lockscreen I have to really quick reboot for etc etc." What's the point of speed if these sort of things happen, you know? All of the flashiness of gingerbread is starting to urk me with all the bugs it brings, I haven't tried a froyo mod except for myns, I don't remember what kind of bugs I had in that, if any. What's the best way to go from here? Maybe give CM6 a try again and put SZen kernel on it?(I only ever tried it with stock) Thanks for any opinions/sorry for the mini text wall.
Newsflash: CM7 is buggy, and has always been buggy, hence the ever updated releases.
If you want a ROM that's as close to 100% stable as you can find, try the bigger Sense ROM's....
Are there any very stable AOSP ROMs? Especially gingerbread? Or do these only truly become stable when the real releases are out for the phones? Because If that's not the case, why not just run stock, you know? What's the real benefit? The only reason I rooted in the very beginning was to get rid of the junk Sprint has attached in the beginning. I don't mind sense. However ever since I've rooted I've been on a speed/battery hunt thinking I could get something majorly different. Is it even worth it? What is CM6 like with savagedzen for instance? Because that's what I'm thinking of trying next. Or are all AOSP going to have pretty hefty bugs with them one way or another due to the nature of them?
So far the new ports of the Shift roms are solid as a rock. Misfits for stock. Kings for some ultra themed ones and Zone23 for blue.
Give them a try you won't regret disappointed.
Try Misfits Speedy Port. Pretty stable with Sense 2.1. I'm making a rom based on that one that is stripped down, but not allowed to post dev forums yet
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Try Misfits Speedy Port. Pretty stable with Sense 2.1. I'm making a rom based on that one that is stripped down, but not allowed to post dev forums yet
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What are you gaining over a stock evo, though. Compared to this?
Years ago the phones were slow and bloated. You could install custom ROMs and actually notice an increase in speed.
With the phones coming out now they are already fast and if you root to look for a speed increase you might not notice much. You will notice all the bloatware gone though.
For a stable ROM I would look for a 2.2 Calk ROM or ones like that. They may not have been updated in awhile but that's because there isn't much to add or change. Everything works.
What about myns?
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
See I don't understand why the call them "release [clients?]", and then release a "full version", even when the full version is still buggy with devices. I stayed away from CM7 for that exact reason until they finally got the full version up. Once I stuck it on i was enjoying it so much but the bugs are just too annoying to deal with anymore. Can't even show off with it because of them popping up at the dumbest times and then it's like yeah so much for that awesome phone hack. I might go try myn's again or CM6, not sure. I just want the stock apps gone, and I want a stable environment. Speed is nice too. Being unique is nice, when it doesn't have huge drawbacks.
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What about myns?
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
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The more and more I think about it I don't remember having too many issues with myn's, so I may try that out again. Not sure. Is there any way to get that gingerbread lock off/on animation? That is something I'm really after, along with the gingerbread keyboard too.
On the sense side, I've found Koni's elite series III to be flawless...I'm currently running ava's ginger sense and haven't had any real issues with it either... can't go wrong with either of those.. just my two cents..
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No smart phone to date is bug free. Cm7 stable is best in my opinion and that 3g/1x bug you speak of isn't a bug but cm7 actually giving you the accurate data speed in the area you are in.
What recovery are u using amon 2.3 wipes fix most issue.when flashing like crazy I haven't had any issues with the roms . Sense or cm7 work fine. Try Elite 3 , Kings out of this world. Um to many to list. Always do a full wipe when flashing new roms.
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No smart phone to date is bug free. Cm7 stable is best in my opinion and that 3g/1x bug you speak of isn't a bug but cm7 actually giving you the accurate data speed in the area you are in.
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I know there isn't a "bug free" ROM or phone. But in terms of crippling bugs, CM7 at the moment for me is horrifying when I'm trying to show it to others especially.
As for the 3g/1x bug it is very real, and it's the worst. I get 1x for no reason inside my house and outside on occasion, it will then switch back to 3g if I restart the phone, or wait [sometimes an absurdly long time] until it fixes itself. I've not had that issue with any other ROMs, stock evo, gingerbread ROMs, or anything of the like. I've reflashed completely fresh with and without the GPS fix, with savagedzen and stock - no difference. Maybe it's just my phone, regardless though, there are so many people asking for help on different areas of CM7 it makes me not want to bother because it is not a truly stable rom for Evo for a lot of people. The battery charger bug I can deal with, mine lags to high hell when it's on the charger - that's something I can fix within an instant and not have it bother me. As for the 3g/1x, the random app mini freezes, the lockscreen not wanting to come on sometimes unless I hold down the button much longer until I restart, and other things of the sort, i cannot. It's not worth the flashy menus, and really the battery life is nothing near a froyo ROM, not even close. (I don't expect it to be).
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What recovery are u using amon 2.3 wipes fix most issue.when flashing like crazy I haven't had any issues with the roms . Sense or cm7 work fine. Try Elite 3 , Kings out of this world. Um to many to list. Always do a full wipe when flashing new roms.
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I use amon 2.3 as well, and I always full wipe after storing a backup on my comp (complete full wipe)
I played with my friend's stock unrooted evo yesterday and no joke, the thing randomly rebooted in my hands while doing nothing special at all.
With that said, any rom here is more stable than stock, but try SavageMod 1.2.1, most stable 2.3.3 I've tried.
I have to endorse Koni's. I ran it for over a month, until I flashed Giger today to pay with 'til Koni releases v.IV
It's not overly themed, perfectly smooth and everything I needed to work did fine, and not one FC the entire time I ran it.
The setup in my sig is how I had it set up. The only difference now, of course, is the ROM
I like sinister for stability, its V4 now and I can't think of a single issue with it.
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The more and more I think about it I don't remember having too many issues with myn's, so I may try that out again. Not sure. Is there any way to get that gingerbread lock off/on animation? That is something I'm really after, along with the gingerbread keyboard too.
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I always like ava's ROMs for fast and stable - Z4 isn't quite their yet, but give Z3 a shot.
No GB on/off animation mod as of yet, but you can add the GB keyboard to any ROM. There a quite a few diff ones from the themes and apps forum.
Gotta jump in here for some input...
If you just strictly want Sense, I was always a Myn Warm Two Point Two guy.
If you can't live without the screen off animation, Deck's Gingerbread is by far the way to go. Yes, it is built from CM7 to an extent but Deck really does a great job taking care of problems. There is a stable 1.0 and beta 1.2(x). Everyone likes CM7 because its popular and known, but honestly after using CM7 for awhile and then jumping to Deck's rom I will never look back.
If you want to remove the bloat from a stock sprint rom don't forget that you can always just do it by removing the apk's from your system with root explorer or through ADB.
How to through ADB:
--adb remount
--adb shell
-- cd /system/app
--ls
-- Once all the apps show up, you just type: rm <insert the apk name here.apk>
--reboot your phone and BAMMMMM!
Hi, i'm using Cyanogenmod 7.0.3 right now and it really fast.
But when I install Cyanogenmod 7.1.0 or the nightlies, it is really slow.
Switching betweens screens lags really bad.
I use the stock gingerbread launcher btw.
The launcher is very fast on Cyanogenmod 7.0.3
But I want to update to a higher version!
Please help me.
If you think its slow then you may be beyond help. CM is as fast as it gets and no one else complains about slowness or lag.
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I found switching from 7.0.3. to the 7.1RC there was some noticeable lag but the nightlies are blazing man, they shouldnt be slow like you're describing. Have you done full wipe before flashing the nightlies?
Sounds like its time for someone to get a new phone. Can't imagine my phone being any faster than it is now though.
Full wipe with the latest nightly.
This is just weird.
I am going to format my sd card and start fresh, see what that does.
Use the superwipe, not just the factory reset. 7.1 RC1 had been the fastest rom I've ever used, seems like something is definitely wrong.
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Thank you, I will use Superwipe when I get back from work.
I'll let you know how it worked =)
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Just flashed Superwipe and after that the latest nightly.
But still the launcher is slow...
Going back to 7.0.3
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Just flashed Superwipe and after that the latest nightly.
But still the launcher is slow...
Going back to 7.0.3
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The stock ADW launcher is most definitely different than it's paid counter part ADW EX. I have found that the launcher is at times choppy and not really smooth, but when I finally broke down and purchased the paid version, I seen immediate differences.
CM is partial to the open source community, which I also agree with, and ADW stock is open source.
I'm using the stock 2.3 launcher
I had the same thing. Every release since RC1 was lagging, even with ADW EX. Tried everything, superwipe etc, different kernels, radio but eventually I jumped over to Virtuous Unity 1.31.0 with Sense 3.0. Finally my DZ is up to speed again. And on top of that after running almost a year non Sense roms its nice to have the newest Sense release which IMHO looks really slick! Only thing I am missing is column/rows and widget resizing.
But I want Cyanogenmod!
I'm not a big fan of HTC Sense.
I went from CM 6.1 straight to CM 7.1 and the upgrade was definitely noticeable. I use ADW Ex and have no problems with lag or the phone running slow, in fact its much faster than 6.1 ever was.
Also, I run the phone at 1024mhz with a minimum of 245 using the CM cpu speed tool. Ondemand governor.
Finally got my MIUI rom working perfectly & saving battery life. All the sudden it starts buggn out...Random freezes, reboots, lagginess...What is the deal?? I noticed when I reboot the phone it fixs the issue but why all the sudden when I didnt change much?
Im using no frills CPU controller could it be that my min is at 128 which is causing the issues? Also whenever I go over 998 it gets really buggy...??
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Finally got my MIUI rom working perfectly & saving battery life. All the sudden it starts buggn out...Random freezes, reboots, lagginess...What is the deal?? I noticed when I reboot the phone it fixs the issue but why all the sudden when I didnt change much?
Im using no frills CPU controller could it be that my min is at 128 which is causing the issues? Also whenever I go over 998 it gets really buggy...??
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I don't know about CPU tweaks, but Miui takes awhile to settle in. First thing I do after an install is reboot then be patient for a couple days.
Yeah. Agreed. I usually do about 5 reboots, just in the flash/setup process to help it settle in faster. Check out my guide, man. Maybe you're missing something in how you do it and that's why you're having those problems.
Where can i get latest MIUI?
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Where can i get latest MIUI?
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You don't want the latest MIUI. It has issues. You want 1.12.9. There's a link in the MIUI thread
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HipKat said:
You don't want the latest MIUI. It has issues. You want 1.12.9. There's a link in the MIUI thread
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HipKat, what's the probability of the "issues" you mentioned in the latest versions of MIUI being fixed in the highly anticipated MIUI v4? Further more, what's the latest news on the development of MIUI v4?
My friend, I'm just a user of the ROM, like you. I wish I had those answers
I've been having problems with miui ever since I installed dtapps2sd...sometimes my programs would just stopped opening completely then I would have to uninstall and reinstall for it to work again
I've been running miui forever w/ darktremour a2sd & firerat's. Have had literally 0 issues on 1.12.9
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How is the latest MIUI compared to the others? Also what is miui forever w/ darktremour a2sd & firerat's?? What are the best ways to speed MIUI up and increase batt life?
Bump anyone alive in these forums?
There is a new version of MIUI 2.2.17. Give this version a try you won't be sorry.
So far two days of stability. Keeping my fingers cross....