http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...tes-restrictions-as-reason-for-cold-shoulder/
Just ridiculous.
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that the AT&T version only
get away
what does it matter... so either HTC or the carriers dont want the bootloader unlocked. big deal. we have badass developers here that will have it figured out as soon as the phones hit the market. Im still lookin at the Evo LTE.
Even if they unlock evo lte, its completely half assed.
I also read that even after rooting 3d it was trouble to flash roms
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Even if they unlock evo lte, its completely half assed.
I also read that even after rooting 3d it was trouble to flash roms
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The 3D has given my friend some significant problems. In fact, on recently has he been able to flash different kernels without a lengthy process. I hope the LTE isn't like that. Was going to be my upgrade, but maybe something else might win out like the Galaxy...
Personally I think that the satisfaction felt when flashing a rom after doing a lot of command line work and scripts is a lot greater than just wiping and flashing a zip... I know that's just me, but this still doesn't sway my decision
Plus you don't need to be flashing things constantly with a great phone. Find something that is smooth and does its job well, and then leave it be.
I'll still take the EVO 4G LTE, even if the bootloader cannot be unlocked. The Galaxy SIII will have the same Snapdragon S4 as its Quad core won't work with LTE stateside. Not to mention, the Galaxy SIII is plastic, I'll take EVO's aluminum polycarb design over a plastic piece of junk anyday.
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I'll still take the EVO 4G LTE, even if the bootloader cannot be unlocked. The Galaxy SIII will have the same Snapdragon S4 as its Quad core won't work with LTE stateside. Not to mention, the Galaxy SIII is plastic, I'll take EVO's aluminum polycarb design over a plastic piece of junk anyday.
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Agreed. But the partially unlocked bootloader will be enough to enhance our phones and keep them relevant for two years, just like the OG was/is.
With these half assed unlocked bootloaders (like my asus transformer Prime) will we be able to use NVFlash...??
Still cant use it on the Prime....
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+1 AT&T has always been douches about this kinda stuff and Sprint is the opposite in my opinion.
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Even if they unlock evo lte, its completely half assed.
I also read that even after rooting 3d it was trouble to flash roms
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I have an EVO 3D and I must admit that when it had S-ON only, it sucked. However, I could flash any ROM I wanted any time. Then, I just used Flash Image GUI to flash kernels/recoveries. It really isn't as bad as it seems. You just can't use ROM Manager (fully) and that pisses people (that wanna take shortcuts) off.
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I'll still take the EVO 4G LTE, even if the bootloader cannot be unlocked. The Galaxy SIII will have the same Snapdragon S4 as its Quad core won't work with LTE stateside. Not to mention, the Galaxy SIII is plastic, I'll take EVO's aluminum polycarb design over a plastic piece of junk anyday.
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I read somewhere that the SGS3 is most likely going to be rockin' a dual core with LTE just like the new EVO, so really gonna be no difference once they are both in America.
Mcoupe said:
With these half assed unlocked bootloaders (like my asus transformer Prime) will we be able to use NVFlash...??
Still cant use it on the Prime....
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HTC phones don't use NVFlash. However, I have a newer OG Transformer and never touched NVFlash and I was able to root, flash a recovery, flash a from, and a kernel. What else would you want? P.S.: Same thing will be easily possible with EVO LTE running S-ON via HTC Unlock.
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I've been REALLY on the fence the last few weeks. Loving HTC HW, and really wanting the new Evo. But then everything I've been reading about the BS HTC unlock and S-on has really been pushing me, ever so reluctantly, toward galaxy nexus.
But what you're saying gives me some hope regarding Evo LTE. So flash image GUI is a workaround for having to flash everything thru damn fastboot commands from a PC?
I suppose between flash_image GUI and terminal emulator, flashing recoveries and kernels shouldn't be an issue, no?
Still, going to have to relock and be on stock rom with factory recovery to flash radios, correct? Cuz radios update pretty often after launch. GNex is on their 3rd radio update already.
Responses welcomed
Thanks
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I really do like htc products coming from a suckass Samsung Transform, But locked bootloaders is kinda pushing me back to samsung because i never had that problem and tussle to root a phone, Even though the Sg3 is plastic crap, id take that for being fully rooted than a halfass root. Just my thought on it even though i love the EVLte before i even put my hands on it.
I'm probably gonna go with the s3. Only because of fully rootable, pretty much unbrickable, and the main thing is the removable battery
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Dunno if anyone saw this. I'm not really even considering an sIII, I think it's fugly, the UI is fugly (I know that can be changed by putting AOKP on it), I don't like the materials, and I'm ready for a new phone now. But, here's an article about the processor
http://www.itproportal.com/2012/05/06/samsung-galaxy-s3-trounces-iphone-4s-htc-one-s-benchmarks/
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There is like a 95% chance that when the S3 comes to the US, it won't be using that proc.
I don't know why everyone is trying to predict how things are going to be on the Evo LTE which won't be out till the end of the month (although we at least have proper specs for it, just no legit testing), let alone on the S3, which won't be out for a few more months and will NOT be the same as what is released in Europe.
Not to mention:
on par wih the HTC One S and the Galaxy S2 and far ahead of the One X
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So the One S is faster then the One X? Great article....
And don't forget... benchmarks mean jack shi* when it comes to real world performance.
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Dunno if anyone saw this. I'm not really even considering an sIII, I think it's fugly, the UI is fugly (I know that can be changed by putting AOKP on it), I don't like the materials, and I'm ready for a new phone now. But, here's an article about the processor
http://www.itproportal.com/2012/05/06/samsung-galaxy-s3-trounces-iphone-4s-htc-one-s-benchmarks/
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Samsung has already said that The Galaxy SIII model coming stateside will be using the Snapdragon S4, same one in the EVO LTE, not the quad core Exynos as that is not compatible with the LTE network architecture. The only exception is TMobile, which will possibly get the same model as the international version, featuring the quad core.
Until the phone get S-OFF I do not consider it properly rooted. And there is no guarantee that the phone will get it, just look at how long it took and how tricky it is for the Rezound and other newer HTC devices.
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Samsung has already said that The Galaxy SIII model coming stateside will be using the Snapdragon S4, same one in the EVO LTE, not the quad core Exynos as that is not compatible with the LTE network architecture. The only exception is TMobile, which will possibly get the same model as the international version, featuring the quad core.
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Aahhhhh, right. Sorry. Haven't really been considering g Samsung, myself, so I didn't even really think of that.
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Until the phone get S-OFF I do not consider it properly rooted. And there is no guarantee that the phone will get it, just look at how long it took and how tricky it is for the Rezound and other newer HTC devices.
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Not to be a douche, but a device can be "fully" rooted WAY before it has S-OFF. People really should stop thinking these are interchangeable words. HBOOT 1.50 EVO 3Ds ARE fully rooted and can flash custom ROMs all day. I'm sure that's what the majority of root users do anyway.
Also, I don't think the EVO LTE is superior, I probably won't get either for awhile. I just don't want someone to wait on upgrading to an EVO LTE because they think Sprint won't let HTC unlock the bootloader or that the SGS3 will be quad core. Just silly.
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I think if the Samsung Galaxy S 2 comes out for Verizon, I'll get that one. But if not, I think I'm getting the Samsung Charge, or Iphone 5. What phone are you most excited about?
iPhone
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None. I'm stuck on the two year contract. I don't know how you are not?
SGSII definitely. I'm avaliable for an upgrade anytime til my contract ends November.
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Nothing from Samsung, that's for sure.
I actually really like this phone once its de-bloated and de-crapified. Actually its probably my favorite phone I've ever had. (that includes numerous smart phones and platforms going back to the nokia 3650 on symbian os). Im going to stick around with it until there's something amazing released.
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do you know if its coming to verizon?
I'll get the SGSII, IF and only if it doesn't have anything locking it down and preventing custom ROMs/Kernels. Otherwise, I'll find something else.
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I'll get the SGSII, IF and only if it doesn't have anything locking it down and preventing custom ROMs/Kernels. Otherwise, I'll find something else.
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Supercurio has been posting numerous Tweets on his Twitter bout that, seems that there's not too much to worry about that
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Supercurio has been posting numerous Tweets on his Twitter bout that, seems that there's not too much to worry about that
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Yeah, didn't see those when I posted that. Just need to make sure that VZW doesn't request that the bootloader be locked and Samsung follow through with it.
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Nothing from Samsung, that's for sure.
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What she said! F' Samsung! I've had all 3 omnia's and now the Fascinate and am sick of having to wait for updates whilest others bask in the update glory!
jv
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Yeah, didn't see those when I posted that. Just need to make sure that VZW doesn't request that the bootloader be locked and Samsung follow through with it.
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Saw this posted on twitter ... Wayne and company are generally a solid source.
http://www.gizmoninja.com/2011/04/15/samsung-will-not-lock-its-bootloaders/
So will unlocked bootloaders win out over slower software updates? For me personally I say yes.
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I actually really like this phone once its de-bloated and de-crapified. Actually its probably my favorite phone I've ever had. (that includes numerous smart phones and platforms going back to the nokia 3650 on symbian os). Im going to stick around with it until there's something amazing released.
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I'm probably going to do the same, I'm hoping that it can get me til sometime in december of 2012 so i can leave verizon...though my contract is "up" in march of 2012 my girlfriend's line doesn't end until 12/23/2012
I just jumped ship from the Fascinate to the Thunderbolt a few days ago. Rooted and have been experimenting.
After getting a sense of the Thunderbolt and putting it side by side with the Fascinate, its not as dominant as I would have expected. The Fascinate's SAMOLED screen is just substantially better than the Thunderbolt's S-LCD. Its not even close really. Also, the latest gen Snapdragon + Adreno 205....doesn't seem as snappy as the Fascinate SoC. Fascinate definitely has better graphics. Very subtle stutters on the Thunderbolt after testing a few ROMs and Kernels. Also, its certainly a matter of opinion, but the Thunderbolt is just a tad too big compared with the Fascinate. They have the power button on top like an iPhone, and the way I would naturally grip the phone puts the power button barely out of reach of my index finger. I have to do a very small phone adjust in my hand to allow my index finger to get on top of the power button, but the Fascinate's 4 inch screen is about as large as I would imagine it could get for it to require no movement of the phone in the palm while operating it, which is preferable I think.
On the other hand - Verizon's LTE network is stupid fast. NYC with its saturated 3G networks -- the LTE network is like coming up for air after nearly drowning. Its rock solid everywhere I've been, almost like ubiquitous WiFi. When you really think about it, even the best Dual-Core Cortex A9 phones on ATT can't really touch a Cortex A8 experience on WiFi. The network makes an enormous difference and that can't be stressed enough.
The Thunderbolt is sexier than the Fascinate with its screen off. I don't really care about the kickstand, but the feel and heft is a welcome change from the Fascinate. Although not a graphics beast, it is by no means a slouch. The UI is very snappy, and I'll be very curious once CM7/AOSP gets released.
Thats the final thing about the Thunderbolt that I think is worth mentioning. The Thunderbolt forum is buzzing. Lots of devs, people are gearing up for CM7 nightlies/crackflashing. Not to say this forum wasn't Fantastic, but the Thunderbolt, and HTC in general, seem to have a slightly more robust community. I'm not at all upset with my decision to switch, but the Fascinate is by NO MEANS old hardware right now, in fact using the Thunderbolt makes me appreciate how good Samsung was on the hardware side.
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Saw this posted on twitter ... Wayne and company are generally a solid source.
http://www.gizmoninja.com/2011/04/15/samsung-will-not-lock-its-bootloaders/
So will unlocked bootloaders win out over slower software updates? For me personally I say yes.
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I agree, and with an unlocked bootloader and a whole SLEW of awesome devs that I know are gonna jump on this beast of a phone and with Sammy leaking source code and updates like EB01/EC01 for free beta testing, we don't need official OTA updates. I WILL BE GETTING THE GALAXY S 2!
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That is a great question. I bought a used Fascinate to hold me over, and to learn the Android system. I am hoping that later in the year I can get something with dual core and LTE. But I also don't want to give up battery life. So this may not be possible.
I like Android, but have a bad opinion of Samsung compared to my previous multiple HTC WinMo devices.
So I want:
For the OS: Android, likely not Microsoft, never Apple.
Manufacturer: HTC, maybe Moto, Samsung is low on the list.
Carrier: Verizon...........period.. What I need it for, other choices fail.
Dual core would be nice, but not at the expensive of a lot of battery life.
I want LTE. Not badly, but there is not much reason to throw away a 2 year contract and not get it.
The Thunderbolt is almost it, and may BE it, for me. Maybe I really don't want dual core just yet anyway. The new SGS II is probably nice, but I'm sure I would be returning in to Verizon as it would have the same hardware weaknesses that I see in the Fascinate.
So I'm waiting it out for now to see what else comes along. Until I smash this P.O.S. Fascinate against the ground and I'm forced to decide.
It's going to be really tough for me to buy another Samsung phone. The internal guts of the Fascinate are awesome (which is why I bought it), but the lack of support and poorly written code is a real let-down. I'm definitely going to explore other phone manufacturers and carriers to see how things compare. If another network suits my daily needs, I'll definitely switch... possibly to T-Mobile given their upcoming line-up of phones. I'm not excited about the possible AT&T merger, but I definitely won't be locking myself into any contracts in the near future. Android progresses way too quickly to get locked into anything longer than 1 year - and those contracts are going away.
As much as most would hate to hear it, if the iPhone had Google Navigation, a universal micro-USB port and maybe removable internal storage + battery... I would consider it. I doubt those things would ever happen, so no iPhone for me. An MIUI-compatible Android would be much better anyways.
Galaxy S2. Samsung is improving. I mean, GB is rolling out to the i9000 before any other phone. Their hardware is superior. With the Galaxy S2, it's EXT4. AND, the bootloader is gonna be open. It seems that they ARE listening to the consumers. Though I'm angry that we still don't have 2.2, I blame Verizon for that more than Samsung.
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprints-motorola-photon-4g-available-july-31-199-contract
I'm waiting on the SG2 but for all you Photon fans
Meh. I think it looks ugly and MOTOBLUR just makes it that much more undesirable.
CDKJudoka said:
Meh. I think it looks ugly and MOTOBLUR just makes it that much more undesirable.
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The locked bootloader makes it undesirable.
They unlock that and we could possibly talk.
I'm not considering it but I do like it's angular design & the kickstand.
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Yeah that was something I forgot to mention.
Motorola Android phones on Verizon test well in battery life on anandtech.com. Hopefully this will be the same for their Sprint phones.
I'm probably going to save my upgrade for the next Nexus phone.
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Im a former DroidX and Droid 2 owner and as far as hardware, Moto does it right. Best battery life and radios of any other phones ive had. I think Moto will follow through and unlock bootloaders later this year. So ill be getting a Photon on launch day.
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Im a former DroidX and Droid 2 owner and as far as hardware, Moto does it right. Best battery life and radios of any other phones ive had. I think Moto will follow through and unlock bootloaders later this year. So ill be getting a Photon on launch day.
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Are you going to make a Rom for it once the bootloader is unlocked? Thinking about getting this phone.
I had the NS4G and really liked your rom, but had to return the phone because of the dropped calls.
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I heard they had no plans on opening / unlocking the Photon ... ?
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I heard they had no plans on opening / unlocking the Photon ... ?
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Motorola pretty much said the same thing as HTC. They will be unlocking bootloaders later this year. But, Moto also said it will be up to the carrier. Im almost certain Sprint will go with unlocked...Not to mention the Atrix has been hacked and they now have unlocked bootloaders.
Yeah, I remember hearing Moto say as much but also remember seeing, 'somewhere', that the plans didn't include the Photon even though it was a 'future' device. If I remember where, I'd hunt it down. It might not have been official but I am certain it was a Moto statement. It was a while ago ... hope it isn't the case as I know some folks are pretty interested in the device.
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Are you going to make a Rom for it once the bootloader is unlocked? Thinking about getting this phone.
I had the NS4G and really liked your rom, but had to return the phone because of the dropped calls.
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I had to return mine too :/ But I will get another soon. I will probably do something on the Photon, probably very basic though, i.e. debloat and maybe change a few of the awful blur/gb images lol.
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I had to return mine too :/ But I will get another soon. I will probably do something on the Photon, probably very basic though, i.e. debloat and maybe change a few of the awful blur/gb images lol.
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Sweet, that's all I ask for
Props to the SGII (if does make it stateside) but I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised with the Photon.
Immediate pro's I see are:
- better signal (not a given but Moto's track record suggests it might be)
- dedicated camera button like the the 3D (I know you can shortcut it from the
home screen but it's note the same as a hardware button)
- kickstand since I don't use a case and love to pop it out for the kids to watch
movies while we're out to eat
- accessories (like the car dock) and provided HDMI cable
- higher resolution screen means more screenspace
- world phone for the possible yearly trip abroad
Likely con's:
- motoblur although having given up HTC Sense I've found I like stock android
better with my aged hero
- non AMOLED screen (SGII evidently rocks)
- initial locked bootloader
- older Tegra 2 when Tegra 3 is evidently due out later this year and is 5x faster
Anxious to see how it stacks up head to head in testing with the 3D since spec wise that things a beast.
Also doesn't have the newer 800MHz band that Sprint is migrating to.. other FCC passed phones starting with the EVO 3D have this. They're supposed to start the migration at the end of the year. It'll be a long process, but it should help with coverage down the road.
spaulding-grandmaster said:
Sweet, that's all I ask for
Props to the SGII (if does make it stateside) but I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised with the Photon.
Immediate pro's I see are:
- better signal (not a given but Moto's track record suggests it might be)
- dedicated camera button like the the 3D (I know you can shortcut it from the
home screen but it's note the same as a hardware button)
- kickstand since I don't use a case and love to pop it out for the kids to watch
movies while we're out to eat
- accessories (like the car dock) and provided HDMI cable
- higher resolution screen means more screenspace
- world phone for the possible yearly trip abroad
Likely con's:
- motoblur although having given up HTC Sense I've found I like stock android
better with my aged hero
- non AMOLED screen (SGII evidently rocks)
- initial locked bootloader
- older Tegra 2 when Tegra 3 is evidently due out later this year and is 5x faster
Anxious to see how it stacks up head to head in testing with the 3D since spec wise that things a beast.
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Stock, the Photon should beat the 3D in all benchmarks, the Atrix does. And the screen is actually very nice on these new dual core Motos. Granted, its not samoled, but still nice none the less.
It's possible it won't, but this will likely have a Pentile display too, so it won't be quite as sharp as the EVO 3D's display.
I'm excited for the phone, but i don't want to wait for and upgrade, i guess ill just have to pony up the dough (im guessing around $600?) haha
The more I see about this phone the more I like it. Looks a lot like the EVO to me. More than the 3D does. The dock option is just wicked with the tablet like interface and USB ability. My phone is mostly for business so it has some better features for me. Would be nice to have a phone with better battery life without having to rely on extended battery.
I was going to wait for the SGS2 also but by the time it hits Sprint other devices will beat the pants off it as far as speed goes. Hear quad core processors are in the works for maybe even Q4 of this year.
Still on the fence about burning my upgrade.
jreuschl said:
Also doesn't have the newer 800MHz band that Sprint is migrating to.. other FCC passed phones starting with the EVO 3D have this. They're supposed to start the migration at the end of the year. It'll be a long process, but it should help with coverage down the road.
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So what is the 800Mhz listed here?
Bands/Modes
WiMAX 2.5, WCDMA 850/1900/2100, CDMA 800/1900, GSM 850/900/1900, CDMA EV-DO Release A, EDGE Class 12, GPRS Class 12
taken from http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-PHOTON-4G-Fact-Sheet-36f3.aspx
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The more I see about this phone the more I like it. Looks a lot like the EVO to me. More than the 3D does. The dock option is just wicked with the tablet like interface and USB ability. My phone is mostly for business so it has some better features for me. Would be nice to have a phone with better battery life without having to rely on extended battery.
I was going to wait for the SGS2 also but by the time it hits Sprint other devices will beat the pants off it as far as speed goes. Hear quad core processors are in the works for maybe even Q4 of this year.
Still on the fence about burning my upgrade.
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I agree. With quad cores possibly coming out late this year and the rumors of the Nexus Prime, really hate to get a Tegra 2 based phone. Then again, any technology buy is going to be dated the moment it's in your hands and thus as long as it does what I want it for which for me appears the Photon just might, it's probably better to get a phone sooner rather than later so that the upgrade timer becomes eligible again sooner
Till the photon 4g forums gets set up. I hear its going to be within the week. I figured it couldn't hurt to have a spot where EVO owners like myself who decided to pick up the Photon 4g can discuss there thoughts and comments comparing the 2 phones. so prospective EVO owners who want to switch can see what we think. I know when i was searching for this info before i got mine today, I couldn't find much. I will try to post something of a comparison after i get this thing fully set up and I've had some sleep.
Good luck all and tear this thing up!
Edit: My Sudu-Review.
Picked up my Photon today it's sick, I'm glad i held off on getting the 3d.
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Am I the only one that absolutely hates the pentile display? It looks like grainy pixelated garbage... I've played extensively with Evo 3D and have used an Evo 4G for a year, and both of those look much better than the Photon's display... Everything has a checkerboard texture to it. Its awful.
I see what you mean by the pixilation. but my reds and whites are brighter. So i guess its a tradeoff. but in normal day to day use you won't notice the difference. and i love the feel of the gorilla glass its awesome.
Besides the tegra chipset whats the difference between this and the EVO?
I don't think there much difference other than the 3d part
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Besides the tegra chipset whats the difference between this and the EVO?
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The Photon has 16GB of NAND, the Evo 3D has 4GB.
Different GPU. Different Camera.
The Photon has an encrypted bootloader than may never be unlocked.
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The Photon has 16GB of NAND, the Evo 3D has 4GB.
Different GPU. Different Camera.
The Photon has an encrypted bootloader than may never be unlocked.
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Last part is very true. but I'm really hoping they will unlock it. I didn't even bother with the 3d cuz i didn't feel it was an upgrade from the OG Evo. I also couldn't care less for the way HTC did their 3D technology. The photon was appealing for its specs as well as the fact that its a world phone.
So far it feels speedy fast compared to my OG Evo. the photon is a tad thicker but feels better in the hand. Not sure if which phone is heavier but i really love the feel of the photon (did i mention that already). Im still setting up my phone so i can't speak for software yet. But mobile hotspot works great here on 4g...
Took a while for the Atrix to get rooted, but they did it. And Motorola is supposed to do the OTA roll-out unlocked bootloader thing... they just need to hurry it up.
I need to head down to my local Sprint store and start looking at the phones to compare... unfortunately my upgrade isn't until September
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Took a while for the Atrix to get rooted, but they did it. And Motorola is supposed to do the OTA roll-out unlocked bootloader thing... they just need to hurry it up.
I need to head down to my local Sprint store and start looking at the phones to compare... unfortunately my upgrade isn't until September
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Can you provide proof of that claim? Never saw anything about it.
Also, might be a good thing it's for September, by then all the options will be out [Including the Within] and all rooted by then as well.
I guess Motorola is planning on unlocking the bootloader by the end of 2011 (article)
I guess time will tell
I just saw all the specs and whatnot..looks pretty cool..
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I guess Motorola is planning on unlocking the bootloader by the end of 2011 (article)
I guess time will tell
I just saw all the specs and whatnot..looks pretty cool..
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Eh, I want to believe them because that would mean all phones are going to be unlocked from all Android manufacturers....but.... "starting in late 2011" sounds like...."eh, we'll get around to it...if you don't forget"
Does Evo. 3D have tegra. 2
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I do want to point out that most people that are waiting for a new forum go into the general section of the overall forum, not a phone's general forum. Just an fyi.
Also, you may find that some people are already in there. I havent checked though.
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Yes but since i am a EVO owner i made this an easy place for other EVO owners who maybe want to upgrade. Shouldn't have to search hard to find other ppl who where in the same boat as them and ask there opinion.
Mods: if this is the wrong place please move thread. Thank you
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Does Evo. 3D have tegra. 2
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No, Evo 3D has dual core Snapdragon. Not a lot of phone have adopted the Tegra over Snapdragon or Hummingbird.
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The Photon has 16GB of NAND, the Evo 3D has 4GB.
Different GPU. Different Camera.
The Photon has an encrypted bootloader than may never be unlocked.
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Also has:
Firefox Desktop browser
USB host (KB/Mouse, USB storage devices)
Accessories:
Media Dock with IR Remote (think Evo Desktop/Media Center)
Root and custom ROM's aside, the Photon has more functionality than the Evo has after a year of heavy development or the 3D. I love hacking/modding/improving all my stuff but this is the first device that I'm happy with (root and custom ROM's not withstanding) out of the box.
Lokifish Marz said:
Also has:
Firefox Desktop browser
USB host (KB/Mouse, USB storage devices)
Accessories:
Media Dock with IR Remote (think Evo Desktop/Media Center)
Root and custom ROM's aside, the Photon has more functionality than the Evo has after a year of heavy development or the 3D. I love hacking/modding/improving all my stuff but this is the first device that I'm happy with (root and custom ROM's not withstanding) out of the box.
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Eh, Motoblur lol.
I'm not saying it doesn't have more to offer than the Original Evo, but I do think that it's all about modifying.
If I can't run AOSP I'm not interested.
I'm heavily leaning towards this new device now. I know the Chef support will be great on the 3D, but the Moto has me interested. I have one upgrade now and another in October. Choices....hmmm.
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Took a while for the Atrix to get rooted, but they did it. And Motorola is supposed to do the OTA roll-out unlocked bootloader thing... they just need to hurry it up.
I need to head down to my local Sprint store and start looking at the phones to compare... unfortunately my upgrade isn't until September
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If this is not a yearly upgrade you can call and have an upgrade reset done for 25 or 45 depending on your account. It gets billed to the account so no upfront cost.
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Hey guys,
Due to a recent disagreement with Verizon (I said they suck, they said they don't), I will be switching over to Sprint.
The problem I have now is trying to pick a phone. Everyone keeps telling me get the Epic 4g Touch but there is something about it I don't like. I am drawn to the Evo 4g because it already has a developer base and cm7 support. I'm not a poweruser, I just like my phone to be snappy when I'm running a couple of apps. Is this phone even worth considering, or do you guys think it's kind of at the end of its life cycle and I should check out a different device?
Thanks for any responses!
Honestly the evo runs fine for what you are looking for, but considering you are signing a new contract with sprint you might as well try for a newer phone. If you don't like it return it within the 14 days or if you keep it for more and decided you still don't like it you can most likely sell/trade it for cash and evo 4g. Just my opinion, but right now the evo 4g does everything I want so I have no complaints.
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Here's the problem....the evo is a great phone but its over a year old. Signing up with sprint means you won't be available for an upgrade for two years. By that time this phone will be extremely old and no Bueno. Now if u buy one for cheap off eBay or Craigslist then cool do that and ull be able to get an upgraded phone whenever the quad core lte phones come out next year. If not then get the newest greatest phone out right now cause atleast it won't be as out dated as the evo will be when ur next upgrade rolls around. I've heard great things about the epic 4 g touch and evo 3d and photon. This is just my opinion. I love my evo just looking down the road u know
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Hey guys,
Due to a recent disagreement with Verizon (I said they suck, they said they don't), I will be switching over to Sprint.
The problem I have now is trying to pick a phone. Everyone keeps telling me get the Epic 4g Touch but there is something about it I don't like. I am drawn to the Evo 4g because it already has a developer base and cm7 support. I'm not a poweruser, I just like my phone to be snappy when I'm running a couple of apps. Is this phone even worth considering, or do you guys think it's kind of at the end of its life cycle and I should check out a different device?
Thanks for any responses!
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Tell you what, you go get that epic 4g touch and I'll trade you my mint evo with all the extras. ;p
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Lol. Deal. Thanks for the responses guys. I'll search for a cheap one on craigslist and wait for the next gen phones.
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go with the evo
yea i was at the same crossroad...evo 4g or 3d? i chose the 4g because of the screen size...im a movie watcher and i have pretty large hands so i needed the biggest screen with the cheap cost...now im a good rom flasher and my phone stays charged for more than 48 hours....ive learned alot about the evo from this site...its like the devs here cherish the evo more than anything lol so my advice....evo all the way
The htc evo 4g WAS the best phone that sprint has. Until the samsung galaxy s II came out and another i cant remember the name of.. there also is the evo 3d which is newer and has a better looking ui.. SO basicly i would go with one of those. but the 3d with the camera is just a video trick..
I have an EVO 4G but I've played with the Samsung Galaxy SII and I'd recommend it going forward. The phone is super light, the screen size is a bit larger, which you may not like, but it's also dual core and really snappy.
ReapersDeath said:
The htc evo 4g WAS the best phone that sprint has. Until the samsung galaxy s II came out and another i cant remember the name of.. there also is the evo 3d which is newer and has a better looking ui.. SO basicly i would go with one's of those. but the 3d with the camera is just a video trick..
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Not to disagree with ya, so don't get me wrong. Hardware wise, as in processors, screen resolution and such, I absolutely agree with your statement.
However, as far as the best phone on Sprint, it's still the OG Evo. Here's why, (IMHO) 1) best dev support of any device offered by sprint. 2) the og's radios are superior to the e4gt, and the 3d. 3) no hboot 1.5 problems like the 3d, and no jigs or Odin, like the e4gt.
In my opinion, formed from reading the development forums of nearly every high end device available, aside from 1 or 2 phones offered by other carriers, the E4G is the most complete well rounded phone. Sure there are devices with way faster dual core processors, tons more ram and system memory, but they all seem to be flawed. Either weak radios, crappy GPS, wifi, or Bluetooth, and some just have cheap craftsmanship.
We lucked out my friends. I doubt we will see another phone as well rounded and game changing as the Evo. I think HTC realised that by making a phone that is too good, they cant keep selling as many phones. People got the evo and held on to it. Thus slowing down the new phone upgrade cycle. I imagine that factors in to why the Sammy GS2's in the U.S. fall short of the international version.
I'm sitting on two upgrades right now and will be, 'till we get lte and (fingers crossed) quad core.
Just my opinion, point out the phone we have available that doesn't have any shortcomings compared to the OG and I'll go get one tomorrow.
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I would get a iphone 4s anf sell it to buy another phone. Apple fans will give u like $400+evo for a 4s. I would say you should get a evo 3d. From my personal experience its just better than the og evo in every way but price. U wouldnt go wrong with a epic touch is samsung is ur thing but sense UI is better for everyday users.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAh9frGNulY&feature=related
Personally, not amused. Didn't raise the bar the way the S2 did. US versions shafted with S4.
And also, I think it's absolutely hideous. "Inspired by pebbles?" Honestly, who could even say that with a straight face. Oval phones are just... not smart.
But all in all, it's probably one "Plus" away from being stunning, but alas, combined with a pretty questionable keynote, I'd say this is overall pretty disappointing. It's still easily one of the best phones on the market, but it's now in a market populated by the HTC One X and the Huawei Ascend D XL, the former which is stunningly beautiful, and the latter has the chance to be even more specs-heavy than the S3.
tl;dr: Samsung pulled a 4s.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAh9frGNulY&feature=related
Personally, not amused. Didn't raise the bar the way the S2 did. US versions shafted with S4.
And also, I think it's absolutely hideous. "Inspired by pebbles?" Honestly, who even say that with a straight face. Oval phones are just... not smart.
But all in all, it's probably one "Plus" away from being stunning, but alas, combined with a pretty questionable keynote, I'd say this is overall pretty disappointing.
tl;dr: Samsung pulled a 4s.
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I actually think is a very nice release!
Cant wait for it to come to the US --
Being tested by tmo already
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Nice device, no doubt.
Is it groundbreaking? Don't know yet, we'd have to see some reviews to determine that.
I will say this, development is going to be through the roof for this phone, just as it with the SGS2.
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Nice device, no doubt.
Is it groundbreaking? Don't know yet, we'd have to see some reviews to determine that.
I will say this, development is going to be through the roof for this phone, just as it with the SGS2.
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Can't say I agree because most of the devs aren't impressed
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When it comes out in the USA, i dont know if im really getting it. Thats what happened when the S2 first came out. It came out around summer 2011 then a couple months later on a october, the tmobile brand t989 was released with upgraded hardware. Maybe the S3 might follow the same route.
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S3 Hardware: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02nIoynGqYg&feature=related
S3 Software: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iknPkDGzsjM&feature=g-all
'Quad-core' is a good marketing term for selling. Minor differences in everyday use in my opinion. You'll notice the difference if you run a benchmark.
I like all the functionality of it.... but I'd like to know from someone who knows:
Will our S2 be able to do all the cool stuff they are showing off with a software upgrade to 4.0.X ? Like the gesture functions, etc... Because our phone can already do most of the stuff they are showing, and the specs are pretty close?
Some of the features they show off will be unique to it, because the S3 uses a new version of Touchwiz that the Galaxy S2 isn't getting. Our ICS update is more a minor update, whereas the S3 gets some unique features. Kind of like HTC adding unique features to Sense 4 versus phones with Sense 3.5, even though both are on ICS.
-the ultimate black dragon-
If the tmobiles version gets turned into the red headed stepchild like the s2 did with changing the processors I'm just gonna go with the note or jump ship to att..
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I like all the functionality of it.... but I'd like to know from someone who knows:
Will our S2 be able to do all the cool stuff they are showing off with a software upgrade to 4.0.X ? Like the gesture functions, etc... Because our phone can already do most of the stuff they are showing, and the specs are pretty close?
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That's touchwiz i wasn't impressed at all. It not even all that special especially since samsung didn't even bother using a15 architecture on their processor. So qualcomm will be in the lead till ti omap is released. The only noticeable feature was picture in picture and that is it. Guess ill be sticking with the nexus line because
all those features are useless. but they can be done with apps which someone will probably do in the future.
The pebbles thing made me chuckle lol
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Meh. Looks nice, but I'll reserve judgment until it arrives at T-Mobile USA. We'll see if it stays the same or becomes a varient that shares nothing but the name, like this one did.
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If the tmobiles version gets turned into the red headed stepchild like the s2 did with changing the processors I'm just gonna go with the note or jump ship to att..
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All usa versions will be the step child because no one be using exynos unless you unlock the device go on at&t. All because of lte/hspa+ on tmobile bands.
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All usa versions will be the step child because no one be using exynos unless you unlock the device go on at&t. All because of lte/hspa+ on tmobile bands.
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Yea that what I meant buy the international unlocked for att but again I wasn't to impressed with it so I'm leaning towards getting the note and riding it out til the next nexus.
i dont like how it looks, i also think that it is too big its almost the same size as the galaxy note. It has a 8mp camera hopefully its not the same ones they put in the galaxy s2. that being said only thing left to really know is hows the battery life.
the next nexus will hopefully be a bit better
I actually love it!
But it only has HSPA +21
No HSPA +42 for us TMO users?
WTF ?
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i dont like how it looks, i also think that it is too big its almost the same size as the galaxy note. It has a 8mp camera hopefully its not the same ones they put in the galaxy s2. that being said only thing left to really know is hows the battery life.
the next nexus will hopefully be a bit better
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Jts actually the same size as this phone. Just remove the bezel space.
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I agree with OP. Pretty much a let down here. Minor upgrades with some gimmicks. It will be the same story all over for us nerds here who want updates. Sure it has nice specs, but development is going to be slow for 6-9 months after the next OS release for android I probably wont own it, I don't need those specs for anything. All games run perfect on dual cores.
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All usa versions will be the step child because no one be using exynos unless you unlock the device go on at&t. All because of lte/hspa+ on tmobile bands.
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false.
If you were wondering about radios, it's launching with HSPA+, but there's an LTE version in the cards.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-is-official/