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I tried S3 and the Note (both with ICS installed) in a store side by side today. Although many people have mentioned that the S3 is faster, I did not notice any difference. (I have tried Note+ICS in different stores. Some devices are faster than the others for unknown reason.) The only time I saw the S3 is faster than the Note is from a youtube video which showed both devices doing the benchmarking. The S3 completed the task faster with higher score.
Anyway, I have decided to buy the Note. We all know that people who have upgraded from GB to ICS have many issues. Has anybody bought a Note with ICS pre-installed? Have you experienced the issues raised by users who upgraded from GB?
I have two choices: 1) buy the Note with GB, wait until Samsung release an updated version of the ICS with bugs fixed. 2) Buy the Note with ICS pre-installed.
I heard that down grading the OS is not possible. If I buy the Note with ICS pre-installed and I have issues raised by other users, can I install the OS made by the talented XDA developers? I heard that even the official ICS has a problem of bricking the device. If I buy the Note+ICS and not satisfied with the performance, will I be stuck?
Your advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Go for GB one. The update is already available so you can always update yourself - and what's more important GB is easy to root so you could run CM9 or any other ROM.
Seems like if I get the Note+ICS and experience problems as others reported, it is difficult to go back because the official ICS can break the device. Even Samsung gave the ICS source code to the talented developers here and a fix may be available soon, it will be too late for me to fix the device because ICS has already been pre-installed. There is no going back. Am I right?
If I decide to root and run CM9 or any other ROM later, can I still install and run Premium Suite? Can I also install the cool stuffs from S3 to the Note with CM9 or any other ROM? Touchwiz seems to be an UI made by Samsung. I heard that it slows down the device. If I root and run CM9 or any other ROM, I can opt for whether or not to install Touchwiz. Right? Won't I void the warranty if I root the device?
You can allways revert back to gingerbread if needed.
About cm9 and touchwiz. Thats a nono. Cm9 is AOSP and uses trebuchet launcher. Touchwiz is samsung own launcher that comes on top of samsung based roms.
Belfia said:
You can allways revert back to gingerbread if needed.
About cm9 and touchwiz. Thats a nono. Cm9 is AOSP and uses trebuchet launcher. Touchwiz is samsung own launcher that comes on top of samsung based roms.
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I am confused. Samsung told me that once upgrade to 4.0, I cannot go back to GB. Could you please clarify? What is AOSP? Is trebuchet better than touchwiz?
There is no way to downgrade to GB with built-in software updater. But you can always flash stock GB rom and revert the device to how it's been before.
AOSP is Android Open Source Project. Basically, CM9 is one of AOSP's iterations. And yes, trebuchet with CM9 is a lot better, smoother and better designed than TouchWiz. Look at CyanogenMod9 videos on youtube.
Akiainavas said:
There is no way to downgrade to GB with built-in software updater. But you can always flash stock GB rom and revert the device to how it's been before.
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Excuse me, what does "flash the rom" mean in the Android world?
If I have a Note+ICS pre-installed, I can still downgrade to the stock GB by flashing?
hajime_android said:
Excuse me, what does "flash the rom" mean in the Android world?
If I have a Note+ICS pre-installed, I can still downgrade to the stock GB by flashing?
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this doesn't explain it fully but its good information for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehXcnqntsro&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Your advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Can I suggest that you get the GB version as it gives the greatest flexibility for rooting and upgrading (as the OTA update is already available).
Can I also suggest that you don't do anything about rooting / flashing until you have read a lot more on this forum. Once you're up to speed, you'll know the risks.
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Hi all, new here and not sure if I'm in the right forum, I have a Nexus S i9023 model. I just recently did a OTA update to ICS but loading sometimes takes a while especially when trying to go into my app drawer.
Does JellyBean fix this issue?
Also, those who have done the OTA update from ics to jelly bean for the i9023, any bugs or problems? I plan to keep it stock but maybe just root it but not cwm recovery and stuff. I just want to make sure there are no issues with Jellybean because I update to the point of no return.
I did hear something about a CRT problem but not sure what that means and if that's a guarantee problem for all i9023?
Thanks for any help!
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Hi all, new here and not sure if I'm in the right forum, I have a Nexus S i9023 model. I just recently did a OTA update to ICS but loading sometimes takes a while especially when trying to go into my app drawer.
Does JellyBean fix this issue?
Also, those who have done the OTA update from ics to jelly bean for the i9023, any bugs or problems? I plan to keep it stock but maybe just root it but not cwm recovery and stuff. I just want to make sure there are no issues with Jellybean because I update to the point of no return.
I did hear something about a CRT problem but not sure what that means and if that's a guarantee problem for all i9023?
Thanks for any help!
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I have a i9023 and have found Jelly Bean to be a bit more responsive than Ice Cream Sandwich - but not hugely so. There are a few nice features though, like Google Now. The CRT animation is mostly broken on the i9023 with Jelly Bean 4.1.1; but it doesn't really matter.
You can always return to Ice Cream Sandwich (or even Gingerbread) by using the images from Google here:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
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I have a i9023 and have found Jelly Bean to be a bit more responsive than Ice Cream Sandwich - but not hugely so. There are a few nice features though, like Google Now. The CRT animation is mostly broken on the i9023 with Jelly Bean 4.1.1; but it doesn't really matter.
You can always return to Ice Cream Sandwich (or even Gingerbread) by using the images from Google here:
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Try a factory reset.
In fact JB was running a lot smoother after an OTA from ICS but it still had a lot of lag.
Only after I wiped everything and did a 'fresh' JB installation I could work pleasantly on my phone.
No lags after that.
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Try a factory reset.
In fact JB was running a lot smoother after an OTA from ICS but it still had a lot of lag.
Only after I wiped everything and did a 'fresh' JB installation I could work pleasantly on my phone.
No lags after that.
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The best way to update is via fastboot! i can say bcz i noticed the difference between jelly ota or jelly images
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4DePKyRgvU&list=UUTsL8yOHOK7IUQl2tsKId5A&index=1&feature=plcp
So, I gave my girlfriend my DInc last year when I got a new phone. Put a fresh install of CM7.1 on it and it's been running well since then. Well, I'm trying to breath some new life into it, but I've been completely out of touch with DInc ROMs for over a year now and I am lost.
What is the most stable ROM available for the DInc at this point? I'd like to put JB on the phone, but ICS would be fine.
Will I need to update the bootloader? Radio? Newest recovery?
Sorry for all the questions, but I'm so far behind I am at a loss reading through everything in the development section. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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So, I gave my girlfriend my DInc last year when I got a new phone. Put a fresh install of CM7.1 on it and it's been running well since then. Well, I'm trying to breath some new life into it, but I've been completely out of touch with DInc ROMs for over a year now and I am lost.
What is the most stable ROM available for the DInc at this point? I'd like to put JB on the phone, but ICS would be fine.
Will I need to update the bootloader? Radio? Newest recovery?
Sorry for all the questions, but I'm so far behind I am at a loss reading through everything in the development section. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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1. ROM? Tiny's CM10 (formerly Pons's CM10) is arguably the best and most actively maintained, and even the latest CM10.1 (Android 4.2.1) is a very stable ROM. If you care about recording videos you're better off sticking with GB, otherwise, JB is as stable as ICS. Evervolv JB also is a good Android 4.2 ROM.
2. Radio? The latest radio (2.15.10.12.20) seems to be the preferred one, cmlusco has a thread about it on here somewhere.
3. Bootloader? HBOOT 1.07 is the latest, and if you unlock it through htcdev it adds some extra features like flashing things through fastboot.
4. Recovery? CWM is still perfectly fine, but TWRP has been gaining a lot of traction lately and is very nice. Installing it can be a bit troublesome, it's best installed using fastboot and an unlocked HBOOT 1.02 or 1.07.
You do not need to update the radio, bootloader, or recovery to put JB on it though. You can just flash the ROM (full wipe if coming from CM 7.1 of course) and all should be well.
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1. ROM? Tiny's CM10 (formerly Pons's CM10) is arguably the best and most actively maintained, and even the latest CM10.1 (Android 4.2.1) is a very stable ROM. If you care about recording videos you're better off sticking with GB, otherwise, JB is as stable as ICS. Evervolv JB also is a good Android 4.2 ROM.
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Pons and now Tiny are the only reason I have upgraded to new device. They are keeping a great phone rocking into the future.
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Pons and now Tiny are the only reason I have upgraded to new device. They are keeping a great phone rocking into the future.
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I think you meant to say the only reason you havent upgraded - in which case, me too! I've found Tiny's latest CM10.1 nightly (01/26/2013) to be stable. Everything is working for me (GPS, camera, wifi, etc) with the exception of video, automatic brightness, and the preview is occasionally glitchy when taking pictures. The glitchy preview problem can be solved by using something like camera360. Unfortunately, there are no solutions for the automatic brightness and video problems that I know of at the moment...
Stability...your pretty much on it Anything based off 2.3.x will be your best bet in my opinion. GB is rock solid. While its nice to have updated software it comes at a price/missing features etc... It doesn't hurt to try out different roms but i feel in the end you will stay on GB. I switched off the rom in my sig back to Bugless 2.3.7 GB incredikernal EXT4 mod. Haven't looked back.
Latest Radio is in my sig.
So I just got my 10.1 for Christmas (AWESOME wife!!) and noticed that it lags pretty bad on the stock TW. Is this normal and reason for me to root immediately?
Also happy that this is the perfect partner for my Note2
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emeraldayotte said:
So I just got my 10.1 for Christmas (AWESOME wife!!) and noticed that it lags pretty bad on the stock TW. Is this normal and reason for me to root immediately?
Also happy that this is the perfect partner for my Note2
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Don't want to thread jack, but I am in the same boat as you (awesome cousin /,,/) and the lagging is more than I expected it would. Curious to know if updating to 4.1.1 would be better or maybe a lite ROM without all the bloatware until the final version of 4.1.1 firmware is released by Samsung.
Merry Christmas!
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Don't want to thread jack, but I am in the same boat as you (awesome cousin /,,/) and the lagging is more than I expected it would. Curious to know if updating to 4.1.1 would be better or maybe a lite ROM without all the bloatware until the final version of 4.1.1 firmware is released by Samsung.
Merry Christmas!
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In reply to both, i have galaxy tab 2 7.0, and found 4.0.4 lagged terribly. Fortunately i found the stock jelly Bean Samsung ROM on sammobile, and have never looked back.
The ROM is out for 10.1.......upgrade and decide for yourselves
I read multiple reviews but didn't believe it until I got my hands on it. Will start rooting it tonite.
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I just received the Galaxy Tab today for xmas as well. it came installed w/ 4.04 and I plan to root tonight as well.
- Carefully reading through this thread now before I attempt it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657056&page=31
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Don't want to thread jack, but I am in the same boat as you (awesome cousin /,,/) and the lagging is more than I expected it would. Curious to know if updating to 4.1.1 would be better or maybe a lite ROM without all the bloatware until the final version of 4.1.1 firmware is released by Samsung.
Merry Christmas!
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The stock JB ROM is as good or better than anything out there. No need to root unless you have a reason. Rooting will prevent your getting future OTA updates. Removing so called bloat (one man's bloat is another's useful app) doesn't speed up anything. That's a placebo leftover from OG phones when they had precious little memory.
Non of the non-stock ROMs retain full function depending which model you have. For instance, CM10 loses IR blaster and may cause bluetooth issues. I recommend the stock JB, its great, although I never found the 4.0.4 ICS ROM to have much lag at all.
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The stock JB ROM is as good or better than anything out there. No need to root unless you have a reason. Rooting will prevent your getting future OTA updates. Removing so called bloat (one man's bloat is another's useful app) doesn't speed up anything. That's a placebo leftover from OG phones when they had precious little memory.
Non of the non-stock ROMs retain full function depending which model you have. For instance, CM10 loses IR blaster and may cause bluetooth issues. I recommend the stock JB, its great, although I never found the 4.0.4 ICS ROM to have much lag at all.
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I just finished rooting. Where do I get the stock JB rom from?
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I just finished rooting. Where do I get the stock JB rom from?
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Download link (only for the P5110): hotfile.com/dl/182319125/5934f97/P5110XXCLK7_P5110OXACLK7_BTU.zip.html
Or just follow this guide: teamandroid.com/2012/12/04/update-galaxy-tab2-101-p5110-xxclk7-android-411-jelly-bean-official-firmware
I can't post the full links because I'm a new user, and apparently I'm not allowed to post outside links (spam prevention).
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Download link (only for the P5110): hotfile.com/dl/182319125/5934f97/P5110XXCLK7_P5110OXACLK7_BTU.zip.html
Or just follow this guide: teamandroid.com/2012/12/04/update-galaxy-tab2-101-p5110-xxclk7-android-411-jelly-bean-official-firmware
I can't post the full links because I'm a new user, and apparently I'm not allowed to post outside links (spam prevention).
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Is this the only way to get the update? I did an update check and it didn't find anything.
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Is this the only way to get the update? I did an update check and it didn't find anything.
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No. You could wait untill Samsung decides to push an OTA update. I don't know when that is going to happen for your country.
At the moment only Hong Kong, Taiwan and the United Kingdom received 4.1.1.
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Download link (only for the P5110): hotfile.com/dl/182319125/5934f97/P5110XXCLK7_P5110OXACLK7_BTU.zip.html
Or just follow this guide: teamandroid.com/2012/12/04/update-galaxy-tab2-101-p5110-xxclk7-android-411-jelly-bean-official-firmware
I can't post the full links because I'm a new user, and apparently I'm not allowed to post outside links (spam prevention).
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got it thx. I have a p5113 so I don't believe I can use this.
i got mine xmas too and soon as it found a network it asked to update. being a long time android user i fell into old practices of never updating till i was sure it was safe to do if i wanted to root etc. from what ive been reading it doesnt seem to be a lot of advantages to doing so
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i got mine xmas too and soon as it found a network it asked to update. being a long time android user i fell into old practices of never updating till i was sure it was safe to do if i wanted to root etc. from what ive been reading it doesnt seem to be a lot of advantages to doing so
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My understanding is that it helps with the lagginess. I notice the most when tryimg to open email through an exchange account.
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I had try almost all ROM for GTab 2 7 and believe me the stable version is Stock ICS 4.0.4
The JB 4.1.1 UI looks ugly to me and lag when in the transition from apps drawer to home screen. In ICS 4.0.4 everything smooth and fluid. I tried several custom ROM like CM10, CM9, KWBR, AOKP etc but the UI doesn't seems to please me.
So now I flash to Malaysia ICS 4.0.4 ROM, rooted and happy with that. Looking forward for JB 4.1.2 to resolve the lag issue.
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I had try almost all ROM for GTab 2 7 and believe me the stable version is Stock ICS 4.0.4
The JB 4.1.1 UI looks ugly to me and lag when in the transition from apps drawer to home screen. In ICS 4.0.4 everything smooth and fluid. I tried several custom ROM like CM10, CM9, KWBR, AOKP etc but the UI doesn't seems to please me.
So now I flash to Malaysia ICS 4.0.4 ROM, rooted and happy with that. Looking forward for JB 4.1.2 to resolve the lag issue.
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i just flashed use JB rom 4.2..but how to downgraded it to stock malaysia ics 4.0.4 rom??
Fotonista said:
I had try almost all ROM for GTab 2 7 and believe me the stable version is Stock ICS 4.0.4
The JB 4.1.1 UI looks ugly to me and lag when in the transition from apps drawer to home screen. In ICS 4.0.4 everything smooth and fluid. I tried several custom ROM like CM10, CM9, KWBR, AOKP etc but the UI doesn't seems to please me.
So now I flash to Malaysia ICS 4.0.4 ROM, rooted and happy with that. Looking forward for JB 4.1.2 to resolve the lag issue.
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You know what helps with "lagginess" ???
Not expecting a tablet to have instantaneous response with its little bitty CPU and small RAM. People should have realistic expectations for a $200 device.
DigitalMD said:
You know what helps with "lagginess" ???
Not expecting a tablet to have instantaneous response with its little bitty CPU and small RAM. People should have realistic expectations for a $200 device.
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What it needs is a custom kernel, but unfortunatelly there isn't one available yet for stock Jb rom, at least not for 10.1.
Or is there?
to help with the lag on the stock rom ( or any rom) you can change the windows and transition animations scale to .5x ...
under SETTINGS...DEVELOPER OPTIONS ...
Thanks, it does seem to make it little more responsive, but still not smooth.
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Thanks, it does seem to make it little more responsive, but still not smooth.
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force gpu rendering could help as well... they helped a bunch with my g2x with a similar processor
Since Samsung released a good update to the International versions recently with a bunch of bugs fixes for lag, camera issues, apps to SD, I've heard there have been some ports for our AT&T version?
When I had my Note 2 I didn't do any ROMs since I thought it ran just fine stock, but I used to ROM the heck out of my S3 when I had it. Now that I have the S4 and it just runs like crap in many ways, I am very excited about the new big update. Unfortunately we don't have any idea when it will hit AT&T.
So can anyone recommend a good ROM for our AT&T S4 which is based on that new International Build?
Thanks.
Just head over to the Intl i9505 section and grab a ROM and flash it then flash an at&t kernel. Done
Mint jelly all the way. There are a few choices though.
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Goldeneye is pretty damn awesome; keeps all the features, option to install sammy bloatware, and all the speed. Best of AOSP and TW features IMO. Cyanogen Mod breaks too much.