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Been lurking on here for a while, great site, helped me get my phone rooted and more useful than stock. My phone is however starting to give me some sass...
Got the Sprint CDMA Hero back in Feb. Loved it for about a week, then hated it.. Started to run REALLY slow (like 1-2 sec to flip between homescreens), so I took it back and got a new one. Again worked great for about a week then it slowed down slightly- said screw it and rooted it.
Wow. Loaded up Fresh 1.1 with the Gumbo Kernel (2.6.27), and SetCPU. Occasional force close aside, it became the phone I thought it should. When the official 2.1 update dropped, I looked back into the custom ROM to take advantage.
Familiar with Fresh's stuff, I decided to try out his stock ROM. After updated the RA, I loaded the ROM- then everything went downhill...
It was Slower than my stock 1.5 was, and force closed constantly. The phone was unusable. So I decided to load FreshToast. Wouldn't load- would get stuck on the HTC logo as it booted, like it would just freeze there. So I reverted back to my fresh 1.1 backup.
I then tried a few other ROMs, none of them would work either. Only ones I remember were iZEN: got the same HTC boot loop, and DAMAGE ROM: which worked for about 3 days before constant force closes.
Ultimately I went back to fresh 1.1 frustrated. That was a few weeks ago, now my fresh 1.1 is starting to wig out on me! Constant force closes of SenseUI, apps are unstable, and Wi-Fi tethering crashes my phone.
I really want to run FreshToast, or at least give it a go, but I don't know what to do at this point. Begining to think something is wrong with my phone (I have heard from many people personally that the CDMA hero is just generall unstable)
Please any suggestions would be appreciated.
Lots of things going on here, first I would say in my own personal experience my heroCDMA has been very stable, even overclocked to 768. I never get FCs unless I did something wrong messing with an APK or something.
Are you using Apps2sd? If so is your EXT 2 upgraded to EXT 3? And is your dalvik on internal memory or SDcard? Any particular program thats FCing on you, or just completely random? Are you wiping between roms(data, dalvik, EXT)?
I would give Fresh Rom 2.1.2 a go, and if you can get it stable and really want overclocking, flash an overclocked kernel over it. such as...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705074
I've also had nothing but a stable platform out of this phone. Granted, pokey compared to current offerings, but definitely stable. My phone also started out as 1.5 from Sprint, but after getting tired of waiting for the official 2.1, I rooted, loaded RA 1.62, and have been rom-hopping ever since.
Just to rule out anything basic, you haven't applied the official Sprint 2.1 update or OTA patch, right?
I tried a few rooms from here and had stability issues as well. Try going to android central forums and flashing the honeybun rom. I have iced honeybun lite with the overclock kernel and overclock widget set to 710. It is very smooth and stable.
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Not running Apps2SD. I perform a nandroid backup, then wipe everything it will let me every time I try a new ROM. Running RA 1.62.
FCs are mainly random. I'm ok with one once in a while, not a big deal. But SenseUI, or Fresh itself will FC at least twice a day. No official Sprint patch/updates have been performed since rooting it.
I guess I should clarify the "unstable" comment I made. I know 6 people with the CDMA Hero, Only 2 of them haven't had any trouble. The rest of them have had at least 2 phones because it was practically unusable slow (very similar to what I mentioned with mine), one of them has gone through 5 of them- everyone has crashed. Maybe they just send us the bad batches here in the Midwest lol.
So those personal testimonies have always had me frustrated when it runs slow, cause everyone on the net doesn't seem to have these problems. I do have the "with Google" version, not sure if that impacts anything at all.
Is there any hard wipe I can do to start from scratch? It is Very possible I tweaked something wrong early on and it's just catching up with me. When I get a chance I'll try that honeybun ROM, Fazulka.
Thanks for the replies!
Aloysius 2.1 LWP (not overclocked) has been fast and rock solid. Some Hero's (like mine) have issues with the OC'ing so it might just be that. Try using a non overclocked ROM.
I have the same exact phone you do and I can testify that there is performance issues with these phones. ....I've personally been through 2 of these phones and I've got this one rooted running buufed 2.1.6 which runs okay although the older buufed roms Were way better.. not much u can do with the force closes..I'd boot back to stock and see how it responds...leaving it rooted on stock software should let u know if u messed anything up.. then try a rom like buufed 2.1.2..that's a good stable version but it doesn't come with sprint voicemail and work from there
A buddy's girlfriend just picked this phone up and she had me check it out and show her the ropes (I own an Epic 4g and came from a Hero) and I just couldn't get over how incredibly slow it was. It installed and opened apps slowly, it changed screens slowly, I honestly thought it was a 500Mhz phone until I looked it up. Now, I know these custom UI skins have a tendency to drag down performance, but my Hero never ran like this and neither does the Evo which is a similarly spec'd phone with the "same" software. Its so bad at this point even she's fed up with it and the only Android phone she's had before is the Vortex which is a 600Mhz device.
Now, I know that this phone is capable of more given its hardware and I'm going to get right to hacking it up for her and getting CM6 or 7 (nice btw, I wish we had CM7 going on the Epic) but is the stock software it comes with supposed to be this bad or is this an atypical experience that if I were to do a factory restore (via RUU or w/e file type they chose to load software with) would fix it?
Definitely unusual, my gf has a stock that she abuses, installing everything she finds and never uninstalling or rebooting and her phone still runs smooth. Might happen to have an app misbehaving...
Thanks, I've worked many an HTC phone and hers is a disaster. I can't imagine what app could have been misbehaving, but I assume it'll stop once I wipe everything and load some vanilla Android goodness. I'll admit, I'm more excited to mess around with CM7 than I am to root around in her stock phone to find whatever's causing the problem.
I'm still running stock on my MT4G, and it's quick as can be. Been using it a month or so and virtually no lag.
My stock mt4g wasn't slow either. But definitely root it. Much faster
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nick34609 said:
My stock mt4g wasn't slow either. But definitely root it. Much faster
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Lol, yeah I'm sure performance would be even better after rooting and optimizing, but I'm not there yet. I had my MT3G for like 6 months before I got bored and decided to root, after which I tried about 20 different roms. I'm sure I'll follow a similar pattern with this phone - in a few months I'll get bored and root to start switching things up. But still enjoying the stock experience as it offers everything I had to root the MT3G for. Plus rooting after running stock for a while will really make it feel like getting a new phone without actually having to buy one
I just bought one as well on the 12th of Feb and it's VERY slow. Annoying. I DID run a Quadrant standard test on it and it scored about 1660 which is nice. No matter how many factory resets I do, it doesn't change the crappy smothered OS.
My stock EVO was very fast. Other MT4G's I've worked with are able to be rooted and are very snappy STOCK. This one is slow and giving me a headache.
I am unable to root it with any method available. I can't find Visionary 11, which supposedly is the problem...
I'm waiting for another method to come out. I've tried about 4 different methods...
Install iced glacier rom on it and maybe faux's kernel and you're done. It should be smooth as butter. I don't know how tthat stock is slow but I've played with a buddies stock phone and its still quick. No lag. Definitely a app misbehaving
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If wiping does not fix it, then I would say there is a hardware issue. It should not be slow at all.
Yeah. Took me about a week before I decided lol.
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RootaToota said:
I just bought one as well on the 12th of Feb and it's VERY slow. Annoying. I DID run a Quadrant standard test on it and it scored about 1660 which is nice. No matter how many factory resets I do, it doesn't change the crappy smothered OS.
My stock EVO was very fast. Other MT4G's I've worked with are able to be rooted and are very snappy STOCK. This one is slow and giving me a headache.
I am unable to root it with any method available. I can't find Visionary 11, which supposedly is the problem...
I'm waiting for another method to come out. I've tried about 4 different methods...
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It seems like a factory reset wouldn't fix any core issue, since there isn't an image kept on the phone's memory. It just wipes all of your user data and returns the phone to an original state, but if the original state is in some way corrupted you would have to flash a known good image of the stock ROM to correct any problems. You can find good post-OTA PD15IMG.zip files on these forums.
Misbehaving apps or hardware problems are not the only reason for slow down.
If you have your phone syncing a ton (facebook, twitter, Qik, weather, stocks) it will appear slow as it becomes sluggish during the sync process.
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Misbehaving apps or hardware problems are not the only reason for slow down.
If you have your phone syncing a ton (facebook, twitter, Qik, weather, stocks) it will appear slow as it becomes sluggish during the sync process.
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You should be able to run 7 screen full of active push widgets and full syncs without the type of lag he is describing.
He said he thought it was a 550MHz phone until he looked up the specs. There's got to be some rogue program controlling things. Check out the running apps / services and also check the battery usage.
Finally, if a wipe doesn't fix it, send 'er back!
RootaToota said:
I just bought one as well on the 12th of Feb and it's VERY slow. Annoying. I DID run a Quadrant standard test on it and it scored about 1660 which is nice. No matter how many factory resets I do, it doesn't change the crappy smothered OS.
My stock EVO was very fast. Other MT4G's I've worked with are able to be rooted and are very snappy STOCK. This one is slow and giving me a headache.
I am unable to root it with any method available. I can't find Visionary 11, which supposedly is the problem...
I'm waiting for another method to come out. I've tried about 4 different methods...
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Here is Visionary R11
this is my girlfriends phone, it's currently rooted and rom:do, running 2.2 with Bali 1.8 kernel.
Lately she has been complaining about everything being slow and esp her phone book, messaging app and other stuff just closing on its own when she is in it.
No force closes just closes like she backed out.
I went ahead and flashed the new touch wiz 4.0 just to see if it helped. It did for a short time, then the problem returned, I tried a different launcher, same problem.
I'm unsure what else to do or where to look as I've done everything I could think of, even remove apps and other things.
She has all her work information and stuff on there so she is anti wipe.
Can anyone think if what could be causing these issues?
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Titanium Backup > Wipe > Restore?
just back everything up and reflash a 2.2 rom. try project v. it works perfect.
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You can try booting into recovery and wiping cache and dalvik and then do a fix permissions just for kicks and it should clear up some lag and spontaneous closes.
Thanks, I'll try the dalvik and cache wipe with fix permissions first.
To be honest I'm not new to Android and find myself pretty advanced with this stuff from the evo, to the epic and now the nexus and I've never had any issues like this, but then again when I had any problems i just would wipe down the phone and start fresh. I'll post back and see if that helps.
Thanks all
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I agree with backing up the phone and then flashing a new rom. The ICS Passion ROM is awesome! Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362961
So far the fix permissions has fixed the issues for now.
I'll let everyone know when she starts complaining because sometimes it goes away and comes back.
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Problems have returned. Not as bad and as often but the laggyness and force closes are back.
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Is she maybe Undervolted? Might want to try another kernel. Maybe Bali X 1.2 which will allow for and OC to **guess* 1.2. Other than that, I would say to pull everything off and put on PC and either reflash her ROM or put a new one on there.
If you are going to maintain it for her, then ICS-Passion is a good option. If not and she just wants a basic 2.2 that works, there is Bionix, Toxic8, Deranged9 and Fishman's Bionix (redux) which are all quality ROMs with great battery life.
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Is she maybe Undervolted? Might want to try another kernel.
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That's what I was going to say. Did you recently flash the kernel? Just like the GPS, each Vibrant seems to react differently to different kernels. Myself, I cannot UV. Causes all sorts of wonkiness.
Thanks for the replies everyone.
i just cant get why this is happening, the phone was being super laggy, i rebooted it. right away on start up twlauncher force close, then it was laggy as hell.
i went ahead and started messing with govenors and it seemed to stop being laggy.
i went ahead and flashed Bali X from regular bali and overclocked it and went to ondemand.
then the phone kept getting the sleep of death and never would wake up, so i just went and flashed overstock kernel, and im leaving it ondemand for now.
i dont think these kernels are undervolted, but i always figured as for my nexus a too low of undervolt would cause a random reboot, not slow sluggyness.
im basically at the point of flashing a new rom, but trying to save the way everything is.
Hey sorry I forgot to tell you Bali X does not play well with on-demand. Set it to conservative or performance. Also if running profiles then no Screen Off. These cause sleep of death. My bad.
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Hey sorry I forgot to tell you Bali X does not play well with on-demand. Set it to conservative or performance. Also if running profiles then no Screen Off. These cause sleep of death. My bad.
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hey no problem, shes gone off to work, and the overstock seems to be doing well so far,
ill see if the problems return, if she does have issues ill go back to balix, overclock and set to either one of those you mentioned, im not running setcpu either, i use nstools for the cpu settings.
Scratch that, lol problems have returned and only a reboot will solve..
Ics 4.0.3
I would just Ti backup everything and flash bionix-v.... My phone was laggy with cm7 and ics passion, but runs bionix fishmans mod great. (but that might just be because im a noob.)
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It doesn't hurt to shut off animations.... Can cause serious lag on some configurations. Not SOD though.
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intheb0x said:
Thanks for the replies everyone.
i just cant get why this is happening, the phone was being super laggy, i rebooted it. right away on start up twlauncher force close, then it was laggy as hell.
i went ahead and started messing with govenors and it seemed to stop being laggy.
i went ahead and flashed Bali X from regular bali and overclocked it and went to ondemand.
then the phone kept getting the sleep of death and never would wake up, so i just went and flashed overstock kernel, and im leaving it ondemand for now.
i dont think these kernels are undervolted, but i always figured as for my nexus a too low of undervolt would cause a random reboot, not slow sluggyness.
im basically at the point of flashing a new rom, but trying to save the way everything is.
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Hey, I had a serious issue with my Vibrant as well. I am on CM7, but this really helped. I'm too new to post links (lame), but google this "Problems with /datadata? Causing force closes for Google apps". Go to the Rootwiki page and read the thread. It should help.
I did this and thus far only a few FC every now and then, but easily cured through a "fix permissions" in recovery.
If you can't fix it I second the post saying to flash a different rom. Project v was pretty stable if I remember correctly. Also the new version of bionix 1.3.1 is supposed to be pretty stable too. And GPS!
Vibrant + ICS
Problems have returned, and it doesn't matter what rom i flash, same problems happen, things auto close without force close notices, doesn't matter what launcher i use or what rom or kernel, it's time for a full wipe.
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I was using MIUI.us 1.9.9 for quite awhile. Then I switched to Creamed Glacier. Data was great on both of these. But I didn't like the frequent freezing and reboots that were caused by Creamed Glacier and really wanted MIUI back. So I went back to MIUI.us but went for v4 2.5.4
ROM runs great and looks great no freezing or anything. However the data on it is SLOW. Even when on E in the previous two ROMs I could still download and use apps. With E on 2.5.4 it took forever to download apps and when running them they would frequently time out.
Is it the case that the ROM could be causing a slowdown? Or is there a mistake on my side and I need to install a different radio or something?
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I was using MIUI.us 1.9.9 for quite awhile. Then I switched to Creamed Glacier. Data was great on both of these. But I didn't like the frequent freezing and reboots that were caused by Creamed Glacier and really wanted MIUI back. So I went back to MIUI.us but went for v4 2.5.4
ROM runs great and looks great no freezing or anything. However the data on it is SLOW. Even when on E in the previous two ROMs I could still download and use apps. With E on 2.5.4 it took forever to download apps and when running them they would frequently time out.
Is it the case that the ROM could be causing a slowdown? Or is there a mistake on my side and I need to install a different radio or something?
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There's a possibility. There have been reports of slower data speeds on miui than any other ROM as well.
I was previously using the Demonspeed Mod with MIUI 1.9.9 and I never really noticed slow speeds. Even when I was on E it was still sufficient for using apps and even downloading. For whatever reason, 2.5.4 is just super slow. Is there any kind of mod or kernel that can be used that is known for data speed?
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I was previously using the Demonspeed Mod with MIUI 1.9.9 and I never really noticed slow speeds. Even when I was on E it was still sufficient for using apps and even downloading. For whatever reason, 2.5.4 is just super slow. Is there any kind of mod or kernel that can be used that is known for data speed?
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Not entirely sure, you could probably edit some values in the build.prop for a slight speed up, but I haven't done it in awhile and I don't remember what I changed.
Searching is your best friend though.
I've had my tab for almost a year and I always have the same issue with every single ROM. When I flash a ROM everything works great for a few hours but by the end of the day it gets soooo slow. It gets so slow web browsing is next to impossible. Scrolling web pages becomes painfully slow and even the most basic functions such as screen unlock and other basic UI slowdowns are driving me nuts. If I use recovery to wipe the cache & Dalvik cache things speed up quite a bit, while a factory reset or re-flash bring it back to where it should be for a few hours. Regardless, it always ends up slowing back down. I've used everything from Stock HC and stock ICS, Task650 ICS and HC, to CM9 and CM10 (to include AOKP and other CM based builds) and a few others with CPU speeds everywhere from stock to 1.4GHZ. I've also tried every kernel I've found to no avail. It runs great right after a flash which is why I find it hard to believe that my issue is simply "the Tegra 2 just sucks". Anyone else have similar issues or any insight?
Never man. I've had my tablet about the same amount of time. I've flashed a bunch and it's been great. I'm on Infamous2 with A1 1.6.4 and it flies. It almost does sound like something hardware related.
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Never man. I've had my tablet about the same amount of time. I've flashed a bunch and it's been great. I'm on Infamous2 with A1 1.6.4 and it flies. It almost does sound like something hardware related.
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Yeah it's Bizarre. Never had any issue like this on my Vibrant or my new SGS3 but this thing has done this since day one. At first I thought it was the stock ROM and then when I flashed the super Alpha CM9 and it was fast for a few hours I thought It would improve as CM became nightlies.
I only ever had this problem on hc 3.1. Ever since 3.2 no more lagging or slow down. Even better with ics as well. Not really sure why yours is doing that.
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