Okay, I never had this one before. I'm running racks' triple boot with most of my time spent using CM7. For the past three days, when I turn the power off on my NC overnight, and that is only after a full recharging -- yep, and I'm obsessively neat, too -- the next morning I show a battery charge loss; down to 46% the first time, zeroed out yesterday, and down to 86% this a.m. How can the battery drain if the whole device is off? Why the differing losses?
Don't understand this at all I've done recalibrations, use juice defender, examined NC in both setups for rogue apps, and except for yesterday never let power go to 0.
Anyone else have a problem like this? Some of the phone threads mention something similar, but nothing like with the entire device powered down.
Not a serious problem, and I ADORE my trips boot (Thanks, Racks et al). Just curious mostly.
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I've done a search but can't find anything to do with my issue. I am running L26LEOV2.1_GoldEdition_213_WWE_21899_SE and have been for probably a month. Everything has been running excellent. I've got AS pushmail, weather etc all running and had no issues.
All of a sudden the battery life has disappeared. Noticed my battery at ~30% last night which was strange as I usually charge every night or 2nd night but it's never that low. After about 45mins it was at 8% just sitting idle (no data or anything running).
Did a full charge last night before going to bed and unplugged it. So 100% charged. This morning I found the phone is off, turn it on and its on 0% then shuts down again due to no power. Would only be like 6-8mths old.
I haven't made any software/ROM changes in weeks so I'm fairly sure it is hardware related. Before I go back to stock ROM and send it in for warranty work, does anyone have any suggestions for things to try beforehand? I don't want to go back to an old Nokia while I'm waiting
You could try BattLog to see where/when the rapid power drain is occurring. I've had my battery do the same thing once. I usually get through the work day with 50% left, but one day (without any use) my HD2 was dead before lunch. The problem went away as mysteriously as it arrived. So maybe just give it a few more charges and see if it works itself out. I'm curious if you've noticed any unusual ammount of heat from the battery? It could very well be that it is failing.
I'll try that program but oddly enough today its been ok, using only 10% with a bit of google maps and phone usage in about 10hr.
I'm having problems with It shutting off overnight while charging. Anybody else having this problem?
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I'm having problems with It shutting off overnight while charging. Anybody else having this problem?
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I just discovered this "feature" this morning as well. -_-
Did u find how to fix this?
I love the feature where the A500's battery doesn't last overnight with the screen off. I didn't think I needed to charge it overnight since the battery was at 95% anyways, so I just set it on the table next to my bed and went to sleep. Woke up this morning and it wouldn't power on. Pretty cool. Wonder what is draining the battery? My DroidX can sit on the same table for almost a week w/o being charged.
I haven't seen it, then again I play music from getting into bed till I wake up so ill try leaving it to sleep and see what happens.
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Me too
Same issue here.
i have not tried the trick that I just found that seems to extend the batery life....I put the tablet in "airplane mode" , enable the WiFi and the battery looks like it is draining alot slower. There is power being used for "cell standby" even though is a wifi only tablet
Same problem here with shutdown on charge. Right now it seems fairly consistent-
I'm experiencing them same thing when leaving asleep for extended periods. It first happened while I was charging... now it happened again when I left for dinner and came back. I don't see any setting options for that
Same here. Thought it was a "feature" to keep from using as much battery.
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So shutting off notifications seems to stop the problem for me.. except that I don't get notifications At least it boots pretty fast
Lets run some tests, shall we?
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I'm having problems with It shutting off overnight while charging. Anybody else having this problem?
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I don't think they're shutting off, I think they're crashing/freezing during sleep and not rebooting.
This is speculation by me, and could be different for different people.
Finding the problem:
The test.
Night/Bedtime
This is an overnight/while you sleep test and requires about 2hrs. of your time beforehand. Record your figures if you can and post them for debunking. A couple hours before bed and while you use the tablet during the evening, charge it. After 100% and once it's off the charger please don't use it for anything. We want to simulate the sleep process for about 90m before bed. So if you use the tablet even for a quick web surf, plug it in and getting back to 100%. We're going to allow ~3% for errors anyway but we want to be as close to accurate as possible.
90m before you're ready for bed remove the charger. Don't use the tablet simply set the brightness to auto and take note of your battery level and the time. 60m in take a look at that battery charge again and record the time and charge level. 90m in is the last check and after this whether you go to bed or not please don't wake the tablet. Don't worry if it seems to wake and go back on it's own. That's inconsequential for this test. Just put it somewhere that no one will bother it and resist using it until you wake up. Please
Morning/Wake time
Wake it up.
1. Comes on? Record the charge level and time for posterity so we get an idea of idle drain here on the thread. Everyone gets different values. You'll have to run this test at another time as your shutdown/freeze hasn't been reproduced this time.
2. Doesn't come on? Try a power on press. Comes on? Same as 1. Record the charge level and time and post it here.
3. Doesn't come on? Try a power on press. Doesn't come on? Plug it in and power it on. Now do the same as 2. Record the charge level and time and post it here.
I hypothesize a few different scenarios the summary of which is that I don't think they're shutting down, but this is mostly based on the assumption that the batteries are being charged while the unit is frozen. If they do not charge then my entire test would have to be re-designed. I surmise they freeze and don't restart so they either run out of juice or they're actually frozen when you try to power them on and the long press is rebooting the unit, not powering it on. If I am right then we should see that the batteries are drained as if they have been on all night. This is going to be very imprecise, but my idea is that we'll take the charge % of your bedtime check which is a 60m mark check and just times that by the amt. of hours you were sleeping.
So if you were at 95% when you touched the tablet for the last time, this would mean a drain of ~5% give or take ~1% due to your use while checking, per hour. You take that and multiply it by how many hours you've slept and you'd get X x 5 = 40% which leaves the tablet with ~60% battery when you wake up, again give or take 3% for errors, syncing during the night etc.
If you're seeing a somewhat accurate numerical representation of this formula then it means the tab drained all night.
If you're seeing something way off like the tablet still having way more than it should then it means at some point in the night it really did shut down on its own.
People who are actually saying it shut off probably just reboot the tablet without realizing it as it was on the charger when it froze. Since a power off/reboot press of the power button is roughly the same length as a power on press, it's difficult to differentiate sometimes.
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I have had this happen twice and it was while I left GPS on.
I haven't had an android cell phone yet that hasn't frozen or reboot itself when I left GPS on for extended periods (aka overnight) so the first time this happened I instantly knew to check and I purposely left it on the second time to reproduce and the second time, the tablet ended up rebooting not freezing. If you're not technical the easiest way to know if your tablet reboot during the night is to leave a web page or IM window on the screen or leave music playing.
You may want to skip the above "finding the problem" tests and attempt this "solving the problem" test. As I mentioned, this is all speculation so I'm just trying to get to the bottom of it and I'm sure we can as a grp.
Once you rule out hardware though, then it's a problem. So if it is indeed NOT the GPS then we're at the mercy of Acer and Google because otherwise there'd be just too many factors to track down.
I'm getting this and i'm loosing a ton of battery somewhere in the process too. I think the above poster is right.
I plug in tabby. go to bed. wake up to pee. see tabby is 100% battery. unplug and go back to bed. wake up to go to work and tabby is powered off completely and battery is anywhere between 85%-90% in a matter of 2-3 hours after being unplugged.
Its likely a rogue app I would get a program like advanced task killer watch it and see what apps are loading in background after you kill all apps.look for apps you installed.not so much the ones Acer put on your tab.
With Ti backup freeze the first one you think should not run give it a day.if that's not the issue keep going down the list.
Had a similar issue it was a app I got from amazon.that was So CALLED FREE.they are not so I uninstalled everything from amazon. No more battery drain.
SOME APPS do not fallow the drained android or social rules
Watching the apps to be sure nothing is running CPU cycles allow the time I loose about 2 to 3 % batter life over night with wifi set to stay awake.
This is ideally from 11 pm until around 10 am the fallowing day.
Yes I sleep in alot giggles
re-flashed with Taboonay v.2.0/Richardtrips v.3.3 Kernel and it fixed everything.
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re-flashed with Taboonay v.2.0/Richardtrips v.3.3 Kernel and it fixed everything.
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had this on my tab for 2 days and reflashed back to stock because battery life was awful.
Hello all,
Having some strange issues with the battery level reading on my Xoom. I plugged it in yesterday after it died and was startled to notice that 15 minutes later it was reading 46%. I unplugged it, played with it for a while, and the meter seemed to be behaving normally, so when it got to about 40% I plugged it back in.
Now it's at 100%. It has been there for about 12 hours now including about 2 hours of use. Plugging it back in briefly while turned off, the LED indicator took the normal amount of time to show fully charged, so I don't think it's an issue with the battery itself. It generally takes me a few days to run my Xoom down completely, so I thought I would ask... has anyone experienced this before, and did it resolve itself after a full battery cycle?
Also, if it doesn't start reporting correctly on its own, what options do I have other than installing CWR and wiping battery stats? I've left it stock so far and I'd prefer to keep it that way.
My Galaxy Note has been performing beautifully since I got it back in January. I typically get several days out of a battery charge - I'm a pretty light user. Two days ago I powered it off for a couple of hours. After turning it back on I made one short call, then nothing the rest of the day. I think it was indicating about 50% power remaining when it was powered off. That night, I was surprised to see it way down at 15%, so I charged it back up to 100%. I did note that I had left the Messaging application running, but that's all - no wifi, bluetooth or anything like that. Next day I was astounded to see that charge last only about 4 hours (according to the meter). Not only that, but the phone actually felt warm to the touch - something I've certainly never observed before. It was like it was running on amphetamines or something!
I was sufficiently alarmed by this to power it down again, remove and reinsert the battery, and power it up again. At that time it was charged up to about 75%. The weirdness continues - since then, about 10 hours ago, it has been almost locked on 75%. It may have made 1 or 2 calls in that time, but no other use at all. I do not have any of the power saving settings enabled, and I'm running Android 4.0.3.
So the question is - has anyone else seen any behaviour like this? Can it be just the battery monitoring getting out of sync? Can powering it down do that? It would not have bothered me too much if I hadn't felt the over-warm case. I find it hard to see how that could be caused by software, but it's a strange and murky world in there!
no updates installed of os.?
no new app recently installed?
Try andosensor and check battery level if its around the normal capacity when charging. Could be battery issue, could be a many things
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no updates installed of os.?
no new app recently installed?
Try andosensor and check battery level if its around the normal capacity when charging. Could be battery issue, could be a many things
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I did update the OS, but that was a couple of months ago, long before this happened. I observed immediately after that update the battery usage seemed to get worse, but after a couple of discharge/recharge cycles, it got its act back together and has been fine since. That's why I was wondering about monitoring software getting out of whack this time - but couldn't see how software could make the case warm!
No new apps for at least a couple of weeks. I'll certainly have a look at Androsensor, thanks for the reply.
Your phone isn't going into deep sleep. Use an app called CPU spy to check this.
Mine usually recovers back into deep sleep after I reboot my phone.
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My Galaxy Note has been performing beautifully since I got it back in January. I typically get several days out of a battery charge - I'm a pretty light user. Two days ago I powered it off for a couple of hours. After turning it back on I made one short call, then nothing the rest of the day. I think it was indicating about 50% power remaining when it was powered off. That night, I was surprised to see it way down at 15%, so I charged it back up to 100%. I did note that I had left the Messaging application running, but that's all - no wifi, bluetooth or anything like that. Next day I was astounded to see that charge last only about 4 hours (according to the meter). Not only that, but the phone actually felt warm to the touch - something I've certainly never observed before. It was like it was running on amphetamines or something!
I was sufficiently alarmed by this to power it down again, remove and reinsert the battery, and power it up again. At that time it was charged up to about 75%. The weirdness continues - since then, about 10 hours ago, it has been almost locked on 75%. It may have made 1 or 2 calls in that time, but no other use at all. I do not have any of the power saving settings enabled, and I'm running Android 4.0.3.
So the question is - has anyone else seen any behaviour like this? Can it be just the battery monitoring getting out of sync? Can powering it down do that? It would not have bothered me too much if I hadn't felt the over-warm case. I find it hard to see how that could be caused by software, but it's a strange and murky world in there!
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Check for partial wakelocks. Otherwise, if you're complaining about battery percentage dropping when you reboot, that's because the battery monitor believes that the battery is not as charged as it really is due to high CPU load dropping the voltage.
I've got the 16gb nexus 7 (non 3g).
I've had it for less then a year and the battery life had been great. But starting over the last few days the battery is horrible. After a full charge over night my battery was down to 50% today. And that's with hardly any use. I used it for maybe an hour total and at least half of that time was just reading reddit.
I haven't changed any settings recently. This is all stock, no mods, not even rooted.
The battery usage right new says it's been 13 hours, and it's down to 48% and Android os accounts for 27% Followed by screen at 18% and WiFi at 9%. Those are the top 3 showing for battery usage.
Any suggestions as to what's going wrong it how to diagnose be fix it?
Thanks
Either your battery is bad or you have a stray process running somewhere.You might want to factory reset it, possibly even reflash your image.
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Either your battery is bad or you have a stray process running somewhere.You might want to factory reset it, possibly even reflash your image.
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Would the battery go bad that fast though? In my experience batteries usually gradually get worse. This went from losing a few percent of power to losing half power in the span of a day.
I might try the factory reset - just have to make sure everything is backed up. This tablet isn't rooted so i dont have titanium backup on it.
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I've got the 16gb nexus 7 (non 3g).
I've had it for less then a year and the battery life had been great. But starting over the last few days the battery is horrible. After a full charge over night my battery was down to 50% today. And that's with hardly any use. I used it for maybe an hour total and at least half of that time was just reading reddit.
I haven't changed any settings recently. This is all stock, no mods, not even rooted.
The battery usage right new says it's been 13 hours, and it's down to 48% and Android os accounts for 27% Followed by screen at 18% and WiFi at 9%. Those are the top 3 showing for battery usage.
Any suggestions as to what's going wrong it how to diagnose be fix it?
Thanks
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Would the battery go bad that fast though? In my experience batteries usually gradually get worse. This went from losing a few percent of power to losing half power in the span of a day.
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Doubtful it's the battery... my money is on a rogue app!!!
Hi, merkk...
It's possible, that as the previous poster suggests, some rogue app is 'eating' your battery.
The biggest consumer of power is the screen, so ensure you haven't got it set it maximum brightness... and ensure auto-brightness is enabled in settings.
Another thing you can check, is your WiFi setting... on my Nexus 7, I have 'Keep WiFi on during Sleep' set to 'Never'... it's not a setting that is easily found - it's buried in SETTINGS>>Wi-Fi>>overflow MENU (three dots, top right hand corner)>>ADVANCED>>Keep WiFi on during Sleep.
It also might be worth checking if the SYNCING of your respective accounts (Google, Twitter, etc.), haven't been inadvertently changed. Particularly the SYNCING of your Google account... which by default, SYNCs a lot of stuff and frequently. This will keep WiFi awake, and may cause battery drain. Go to SETTINGS>>ACCOUNTS>>GOOGLE and disable what you don't need to be SYNCed.
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It's unfortunate that your Nexus 7 isn't rooted, because there are a couple of excellent diagnostic apps available (GSam Battery Monitor and BetterBatteryStats) which provide more granular and finely detailed battery info/history than the standard Android battery info screen... and are useful for tracking down problematic apps that might be keeping the device unnecessarily awake ('wakelocks', etc.).
However, due to changes in Android 4.4 (KitKat), these apps now require root access to read and report battery stats info.
If your Nexus 7 is running any version of Android BEFORE 4.4 KitKat (and some haven't updated yet), then you don't need root to run these diagnostic apps.
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It's sometimes the case, with Android, that there will be occasional peculiarities with battery performance... and in my experience, it's almost always the case, it's due to something the user did... some app or widget installed. I'm currently experiencing similar battery issues on my Samsung Galaxy S3, but having run GSam for a couple of days, I think I have the culprit identified. If I can't eliminate the problem, I'll uninstall the app.
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Hope my ruminations are of some use.
Rgrds,
Ged.
Gedblake, thanks for the suggestions. For whatever reason, today it seems to be back to normal. The only thing i did last night was drain the batter to around 10%, turn it off, and let it charge while turned off.
Turned it back on today,used it for about 15 minutes or so playing a game. And now just about 5 hours after turning it on, it's down to 92% which is what I'd normally expect.
I'll try some of your suggestions if the problem re-occurs.
I noticed that my N7 (2012) has been draining quite a bit lately. Watching the battery stats, it seems Google Wallet was eating up some major battery. It was 2nd at 29% with the screen number 1 at 38%.
Not sure what the heck Google Wallet was doing, but I killed it and things seem to have stabilized.
battery drain after update?
For years I've had the same routine. I use my Nexus 7 all day for work, mostly notes. In between I play, (youtube, E-reader, etc). Every night I plug it in to charge and in the morning it's fully charged and ready to go. On Tues, I received the OTA update for 4.4.4 I noticed this morning that after a full night's charge, the battery only reports 50% charge. Is this the beginning of the end? What steps should I take from here? I recently bricked by GS3 so I depend on this thing now more then ever, any help would be sooooo appreciated.
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For years I've had the same routine. I use my Nexus 7 all day for work, mostly notes. In between I play, (youtube, E-reader, etc). Every night I plug it in to charge and in the morning it's fully charged and ready to go. On Tues, I received the OTA update for 4.4.4 I noticed this morning that after a full night's charge, the battery only reports 50% charge. Is this the beginning of the end? What steps should I take from here? I recently bricked by GS3 so I depend on this thing now more then ever, any help would be sooooo appreciated.
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I'd just restart it and let it charge again. I've updated mine a while ago and haven't had any issues.
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I'd just restart it and let it charge again. I've updated mine a while ago and haven't had any issues.
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I'm on a custom 4.4.2 ROM and I have had intermittent draining behavior as well.
Sync is off, location services off, I turn off wifi manually, and I always clear recents before I have my tablet sleep. I have greenify installed. I'm using better battery stats.
My issue seems to be similar, but I am also having battery percentages jump around.
Earlier today it went from 26% to 43% in the middle of me using it. Without charging. It frequently does this, both lesser and greater values reported. I've had my tablet shut down in the 30% range. I've had it shut itself off on 4%. I've had it drain all the way to 0% and then some before shutting down. I've had it turn itself off and when I power it back on the tablet is thinking it is at 25% or more.
I haven't been getting much more than an hour of screen time with my tablet lately. Clean fresh install of my ROM.
But I've never, until the last couple of days, had it go from a small percent to a large percent active during use. I took screenshots. I even started a thread to talk about it but nobody has responded yet.
Has anyone else ran into this behavior? Is it a sign of a soon to be dead battery?
mine got almost 30% drained on idle, airplane mode, screen off for 3 hours (tested on stock rom 4.4.3. GApps + Swiftkey + BBM + Facebook only)
my nexus 7 never lasted a day, only half a day max.
trying GSam app, hope it helps in knowing what's eating up batteries.