[Q] [q] Missing boatloader Defy - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

The question is simply, where can I download a boatloader for a Defy.
With RDS-lite i can flash my phone, but when i'm starting it, it doesn't show a Motorola logo. Volume down, power button start-up doesn't work....
I think the only thing I need is a bootloader, but where can I find one?

you can't download a bootloader
the defy bootloader is locked on the motherboard of the cell phone, i think you are looking for the 'boot image'. Try looking up the leaked tmobile official 2.2 jorden sbf, it comes with everything you need for a fresh start. just make sure you preform a full wipe and i do mean full factory reset, before you flash.

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[Q] Defy M motorola locked boot and recovery will not open!

good night friends!
I'm here asking for this help not for lack of looking for the solution, sorry my bad english, I'm from Brazil and I
defy caught in a bootloader, I tried almost everything I found here in the forum, but most of the problems is
reset solved by making the recovery, but in my defy the recovery does not open, the flash works only power + vol up, already
I spent several roms to no avail, could someone help me run my recovery? grateful heart
list of roms flashead
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_155-002_DEBLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA03A.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYORTCEE_P011_A010_HWp3_Service1FFJORLA_U3_3.4.2_107-7_R02_SIGNED_USAJORDMR1B15CLABRLA019.0R_JORLAFROCLABRLA_P009_A008_M002_HWp3_Service1FF.sbfz
JORLA_U3_3.4.2_107-7_R02_SIGNED_USAJORDMR1B15CLABRLA019.0R_JORLAFROCLABRLA_P009_A008_M002_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
JRDNEM_U3_2.34.1_DEBLUR_P3_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA02B.0R_USAJORDANRTCEE_P029_A019_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
JRDNEM_U3_2.51.1_BLUR_P3_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA030.0R_USAJORDANRTFR_P043_A010_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
JRDNEM_U3_2.59.0_CHN_P3_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA035.0R_USAJORDANRTHKTW_P021_A015_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_117-002_BLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_USAJRDNEMARAB1B8RTGB035.0R_USAJRDNFRYORTGB_P003_A002_HWp3_Service1FF
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_164-003_VFBLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_USAJRDNEMARAB1B8VFFR03A.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYOVFFR_P028_A014_M004_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
Motorola_Defy_Nu___Android_2.2_FroYo
shadow_defy_2.3.3_85_Orange
If you turn it on while holding "dolume down" do you get the android+! screen? Some go into recovery if you touch the bottom right corner of the screen, but on some you have to hold volume up + down together. I had this problem today!
If you actually can't get to the screen with the android+! then I don't know what else you could do :-(
mmec2 said:
If you turn it on while holding "dolume down" do you get the android+! screen? Some go into recovery if you touch the bottom right corner of the screen, but on some you have to hold volume up + down together. I had this problem today!
If you actually can't get to the screen with the android+! then I don't know what else you could do :-(
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I really can not, no way to go to the screen with the robot android! he goes right on the logo motorola M!
can it be hardware problem?
1) Did you use the correct flasher? rsd4.9 with motorola driver installed properly.
2) If (1) not working, you could use motorola own service update from their site.
farsight73 said:
1) Did you use the correct flasher? rsd4.9 with motorola driver installed properly.
2) If (1) not working, you could use motorola own service update from their site.
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I'm using motorola rsd 4.9 with updated drivers, what happens is install the rom normal after reboot gets stuck in the Motorola M logo, the software update site does not recognize my phone, do all these roms that I would be no my phone?
im tried this roms now
JRDNEM_U3_2.51.1_BLUR_P3_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA030.0R_USAJORDANRTFR_P043_A010_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_117-002_BLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_USAJRDNEMARAB1B8RTGB035.0R_USAJRDNFRYORTGB_P003_A002_HWp3_Service1FF
JRDNEM_U3_2.21.0_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA028.0R_USAJORDANRTGB_P026_A007_HWp3_Service1FF
3.4.3_11-Stock.UKTmobile_BLUR
but no results!
don't worry about it, dude.
maybe you can try the way followed:
1.power off your defy;
2.remove the battery from the phone;
3.plug the usb cable into the phone without battery;
4.open RSD and chose one of the roms your listed, but 3.4.2-177-005 NORDIC prefered,
5.take the battery into your phone, now your can see the "connected" on RSD;
6.click the "start" button to flash;
7.wait the phone reboot completely, usually it'll reboot.
if not reboot, remove and on your battery, power on your phone, then press the "volume - and power" botton together, you can enter the robot screen, press volume up and down botton together, usually you can enter the recovery, then chose wipe 3 and 4, totally you can save your defy~~
Be sure to have enough battery while flashing..
Get the phone into bootloader (hold volume down when switch on) and flash an SBF like one from the list you've attached using RSD lite. Surely you have used RSD Lite before?
It seems you have the same issue I have on my Defy as per this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095444
I’m also unable to get into recovery or get to the Android Robot screen using “Power + Volume Down”. Hopefully we will be able to figure it out and get this issue fixed.
jdearauj said:
It seems you have the same issue I have on my Defy as per this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095444
I’m also unable to get into recovery or get to the Android Robot screen using “Power + Volume Down”. Hopefully we will be able to figure it out and get this issue fixed.
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This same friend, I have the same problem, is this a hardware problem? I move the roms but not normal
Vol I login recovery - + Power key
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
Try flashing nordic, if fails arabic, if fails, 2.3.3, if fails probably corrupt nand broken hardware.
Before and after every flash always try to access recovery (volume down) and WIPE. reboot and wait crossing fingers, if it fails to boot flash next sbf, try to go recovery + wipe; reboot, cross more fingers; if fails to boot try next sbf and repeat.
The reason for this is that you can flash a lower version but it wont boot, so you have to flash a higher and higher version until you get one that works.
I tried to help someone with this problem before to no avail!
Everyone who is saying just wipe in recovery, or just flash with RSD blah blah blah, need to understand that he CAN NOT access recovery and HE HAS flashed multiple roms using RSD 4.9, read the OP. Im convinced this is physical hardware failure or similar. We all know the drill to recover our precious defy's in the event of semi-brick ie: bootloop or corrupt code. However this is more than a semi-brick. We are talking about successful flashing and still no access to recovery and infinite M logo!
I walked more than one person with this problem through every known procedure to bring these phones back. Even using sbf_flash for linux doesn't work as this is the only way I flash anymore I don't bother with RSD anymore. The thing is it DOES FLASH SUCCESSFULLY just no recovery or boot!
zyxwvut said:
I tried to help someone with this problem before to no avail!
Everyone who is saying just wipe in recovery, or just flash with RSD blah blah blah, need to understand that he CAN NOT access recovery and HE HAS flashed multiple roms using RSD 4.9, read the OP. Im convinced this is physical hardware failure or similar. We all know the drill to recover our precious defy's in the event of semi-brick ie: bootloop or corrupt code. However this is more than a semi-brick. We are talking about successful flashing and still no access to recovery and infinite M logo!
I walked more than one person with this problem through every known procedure to bring these phones back. Even using sbf_flash for linux doesn't work as this is the only way I flash anymore I don't bother with RSD anymore. The thing is it DOES FLASH SUCCESSFULLY just no recovery or boot!
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OMG Exactly!!!! i have same problem and nobody seems to be able to tell me what to do, they keep saying same thing about trying various SBF's and Vol down + power method. No matter what SBF file I successfully flash with, i cannot get into boot recovery mode.
I have heard before from desperate users that they were able to revive their phone by flashing a full 2.3.4 sbf. This however comes with downsides of not being able to downgrade to froyo by flashing ANY froyo sbf's. There is a way to downgrade back to froyo but its a dirty method. Even after downgrade you can't just flash a sbf, you will always need to restore nandroid and flash fixed sbf

[Q] Unbricking Unbrickable Motorola Defy

I have Motorola Defy MB252
When i bought the phone i installed MiUI to it. I have been since always upgraded MiUI using its updater. Yesterday I was drooling after the Android 4 for the Defy and decided I would try it out. I had some rom loader with 3 buttons installed on the Android. I pressed the one with boot rom manager button or something like that – I cant precisely recall what the buttons said or what was the name of the program. After this the phone booted and got stuck to the Motorola logo. I then tried to recover the phone to working state by flashing different SBF files from umts_jordan/list.php. None of them work – I am currently stuck in situation where the phone wont even show the Motorola logo. The phone automatically goes to the SBF flash state. Im flashing from Windows using the RSD like v5.5. Latest SBF I flashed was 3.4.2_145_finland\JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_145-003_DEBLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA039.0R_UCAJRDNFRYORTCOREEU_P009_A006_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
I only get blank screen with white front indicator led shining. I can get to flash state and it will only then print its programming it. The RSD lite says flashing was OK.
I did not keep good track what SBF files I have tried to flash.
I’m desperate – do you have any ideas what I should do?
[EDIT]
I flashed Defy-BL6Downgrade.sbf. Now i can get to Bootloader 09.10 (i see the normal bootloader when booting the phone but still no android).
FIXED EVERYTHING: Follow instrucsions in thread #1152377 post #8

Strange Bricked Defy ?

Hi all,
I have a friend's Defy from a French carrier and my friend is with another carrier so I decide to SIM unlock it by installing CM7 and other files.
So I have root it and install the recovery.
In recovery, I have flash CM7 and Gapps.
But I get a boot loop...
So I decided to flash JORDN_U3_97.21.51 SBF and restart from scratch.
But now, the phone wont boot at all.
Nothing on the screen but it's still reconized by RSD (even if nothing is displayed on the screen) I can re-flash SBF files and RSD say "PASS" but doesn't reboot the phone.
So now I have a brick and can't boot vol up + power doesn't display anything.
Dose anyone have an idea for me ?
Thank you.
1st don't loose your battery - when no working system on the device then it is not being charged
You wrote nothing about wipes - have u performed them? If not try to get into any recovery and wipe user data / factory reset, try vol- w/power or vol + & - together, take a battery for some time before doing it etc.
What ROM u had before flashing CM7?
Is it defy or defy+?
And you flashed CG5 sbf
When you give more details maybe I can propose proper solution.
You wrote nothing about wipes - have u performed them? If not try to get into any recovery and wipe user data / factory reset, try vol- w/power or vol + & - together, take a battery for some time before doing it etc.
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If I understood right, OP's DEFY is completely bricked and he cannot even access recovery.
Anyway, I unfortunately no solution to propose as I have a DEFY in the same situtation and I'm currently unable to revive it. We aren't the only who had DEFY bricked like this and some managed to have it wake up by flashing certain sbf.
You can try searching "bricked defy" on XDA and see what sbf the topic creator used to save his DEFY, if he succeeded to.
dont flash sbf just after the bootloop..!
-JFK- said:
Hi all,
I have a friend's Defy from a French carrier and my friend is with another carrier so I decide to SIM unlock it by installing CM7 and other files.
So I have root it and install the recovery.
In recovery, I have flash CM7 and Gapps.
But I get a boot loop...
So I decided to flash JORDN_U3_97.21.51 SBF and restart from scratch.
But now, the phone wont boot at all.
Nothing on the screen but it's still reconized by RSD (even if nothing is displayed on the screen) I can re-flash SBF files and RSD say "PASS" but doesn't reboot the phone.
So now I have a brick and can't boot vol up + power doesn't display anything.
Dose anyone have an idea for me ?
Thank you.
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frend i wanna tell u onething.the very first time i did the flashing of cm7.1stable on froyo 2.2.2defy i got a bootloop..since i was in hostel i cudnt afford internet..so i was soo scared and even waited for 15 min..but the cm7 logo with an arrow swirling around didnt stop..i puld the batery out and again inserted and did something stupid like clearing data and got the condition worse
then i flashed sbf using rsd lite ..again rooted and flashed cm7.1 stable and got bootloop..this time i surfed net and found what shud hav been done ..
1)pull out the battery after the boootloop.
2)clear cache
3)reboot
tats it..the welcome window comes in no time..
so coming to the present issue, after flashing the smf did u get bootanimation with light passing over "android" againg and again ??
Check that u r using the latest RSD.
I have a Defy plus but the same thing happened to me before (black screen even no boot with vol up) so I connected my phone to the computer (I can't really remember if I powered with a vol up or not) but I got it recognized by the RSD. try connecting and powering on the the vol up if nothing just connect and see what will happen.
The most important thing is to use the latest version of RSD.
and please tell me if it worked.
I'm not responsible for anything.

[Q] Help, I think I have REALLY bricked my defy!

About a month ago I installed a clockwork based recovery app from the market. I tried restoring and this failed leaving the phone unbootable.
Since then I have tried flashing MANY other sbf`s using rsd lite but this has made the situation worse. I think that I even flashed one for the defy+
Now all I get is either a blank screen or a M logo when I switch on.
Pressing power & volume down doesn`t work so I can`t access the stock recovery menu
I can access the bootloader using power & volume up so i can flash more sbf`s but I`ve tried most of them but none will boot.
BTW the phone was running cm7.1 before I had all this trouble and the battery has been fully charged (in another defy)
Is there any way I can clear off all the stuff I`ve been installing and start from fresh? or can anyone tell me how to get the phone to boot?
I have searched for a solution in the forums but most of the replies involve clearing the cache which I cant do as I cant get to the recovery menu.
Any helpful comments will be gratefully received
many thanks
Jeff H
Your flashs complete with Finish/Pass, or just "please manually power up this phone"?
If it's the later, read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38187413&postcount=2
Just stick to the most highest Defy+ sbf build, or just use DFP-231 build to be sure.
intemptesta said:
Your flashs complete with Finish/Pass, or just "please manually power up this phone"?
If it's the later, read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38187413&postcount=2
Just stick to the most highest Defy+ sbf build, or just use DFP-231 build to be sure.
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Thanks for the reply
I flashed the DFP-231 sbf file as you suggested but it wouldn`t boot any further than the M logo.
I did get the "please manually power up this phone" message and followed the procedure from the link you gave
I can`t wipe the as I cannot get to the recovery menu.
Is there any other way to wipe the cache?
JeffH
Nah, no other way than stock recovery for stock rom.
Just make sure your flash finished with Finish/pass, that'll make your stock recovery working again.
Wish you a best luck.
i flashed with this:
DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_GR_SIGN_UCADEFYEMARAB1B80AA004.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRRTCEE_P022_A022_Service1FF.sbf
but still no boot
Is this the correct rom?
cheers
JeffH
I wonder if the following might give someone a clue about whats wrong with my defy
If I flash gingerbread rom either defy or defy+ then rsd completes with PASS, and phone will boot as far as the M logo and I can access the menu with power+volume UP
If I flash below gingerbread then rsd doesnt complete but gives `manually reboot` message. If I then power off and plug in again then rsd completes with PASS but when I reboot there is NO M logo and no menu on power and volume up.
I`m keeping my fingers crossed that I will be able to revive my phone.
JeffH
With DFP-231 rom, how about power+volume down to boot into stock recovery? I think you're just one step away from reviving defy.
intemptesta said:
With DFP-231 rom, how about power+volume down to boot into stock recovery? I think you're just one step away from reviving defy.
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No, Power + volume down doesn`t work, (ie nothing happens). Only power + volume up works.
Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1595013
Vicsa said:
Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1595013
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Thanks, but it didn`t work. Still stuck at M logo. Obviously I couldn`t clear the cache before and between flashing
JeffH
Thank you all for your helpful advice.
I have now sent the phone away for repair.
I spoke to the technician on the phone and she reckons it needs dismantling and a jtag repair (whatever that is).
But beware an app on the market, I think it is called orange backup, as it was after installing this and trying to restore the backup that I screwed up my phone!
JeffH

Soft brick Defy, help needed :(

Hello,
got a semi brick Defy (meaning cannot boot,
cannot enter recovery, cannot enter fastboot mode,
there is only Motorola Flash Interface, RSDLite sees the phone).
The battery is charged (measured it), also the phone
lights up the charging, white LED when charging.
The phone had some kind of custom ROM on it,
for sure and the owner tried to downgrade it
back to Froyo (which is obviously prohibited as
I know).
Tried various 2.2.1 and 2.3 service SBFs without
any luck, I can't even go to recovery/download
still.
Any bulletproof guide how to revive it?
(With things like how much I should wait after
RSDLite finished with flashing abd rebooted the
phone - before trying to reflash again?)
Thanks,
To reply to my own question, there is no surprise. The customer ROM changed the bootloader version to something, I just had to figure out the lowest compatible stock ROM which has this bootloader.
So I started to flash SBFs after SBFs with increasing BL version, and finally I stopped at BL6, as the phone booted up.
Obviously I had to manually charge the battery inbetween, and obviously I had to give it a full format, but now everything
seems fine.

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