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What is the biggest reason that the evo isn't "Iphone" smooth? I got to play with a Nexus S at bestbuy a week ago and it really was "Iphone" smooth. Is it fps or something else in the system? Before anyone flames me understand that I love my Evo and would never give it up for the iphone, just a honest and curious question. Thanks in advanced
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I heard that the iphone uses the gpu for hardware acceleration of the ui. Android phones don't yet...
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I run cm6 on my 0004 evo and it wasn't iPhone smooth on sense, but it is now....thanks cyanogen and team.
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Buff McBigstuff said:
I heard that the iphone uses the gpu for hardware acceleration of the ui. Android phones don't yet...
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I've heard this as well can anyone confirm?
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I've heard this as well can anyone confirm?
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It's true; well to be 100% accurate, not all of Android is HW accelerated. Some parts are.
On top of that the iPhone 4 has a PowerVR SGX 535 GPU which is twice as fast as the EVO's Adreno 200 GPU. For comparison, the Nexus S has the better PowerVR SGX 540 GPU (twice as fast as the 535 in the iPhone 4) but iOS's hardware acceleration still makes the UI smoother than the Nexus S with 2.3. It's rumored that Honeycomb will bring full HW acceleration and that should bring it to iOS/WP7 level smoothness for the GPUs it will support.
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It's true; well to be 100% accurate, not all of Android is HW accelerated. Some parts are.
On top of that the iPhone 4 has a PowerVR SGX 535 GPU which is twice as fast as the EVO's Adreno 200 GPU. For comparison, the Nexus S has the better PowerVR SGX 540 GPU (twice as fast as the 535 in the iPhone 4) but iOS's hardware acceleration still makes the UI smoother than the Nexus S with 2.3. It's rumored that Honeycomb will bring full HW acceleration and that should bring it to iOS/WP7 level smoothness for the GPUs it will support.
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Why is it that they didn't make it HW accelaterated since the beggining?
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LoveisPeace2012 said:
Why is it that they didn't make it HW accelaterated since the beggining?
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$$$$$$$$$$$
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$$$$$$$$$$$
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I don't understand, they wanted money for what exactly? Isn't having HW accel. on in the first place even a better selling point than nothing?
Just install CM6 for super silky smoothness.
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Why is it that they didn't make it HW accelaterated since the beggining?
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I don't know, could be a number of reasons. Android was first influenced by the blackberry OS and started changing it to be more iOS like once the iPhone was released. Could be that its taken this long to catch up to something which was lower in priority. Maybe it's because there are tons of GPUs on Android phones and its hard to support them all. A lot of the early Android phones were from HTC (which Google used to build the platform - G1, Ion, and only comparably, the N1) and had some pretty crap GPUs, maybe that held it back. Most likely it was a combination of these.
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The lack of 4g isn't going to bring me to use cm.
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The lack of 4g isn't going to bring me to use cm.
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That should change very soon.
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Vivix729 said:
Just install CM6 for super silky smoothness.
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It still doesn't come anywhere close to being as smooth as the iPhone.
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It still doesn't come anywhere close to being as smooth as the iPhone.
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IPhone might be smooth but the lack of REAL push notifications, lack of TRUE multitasking killed it for me but that was back when I had one. Don't know if its still the same lol but its overrated for sure if you ask me.
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That should change very soon.
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Yeah I hope so.
So the bottom line for the UI to be smooth is hardware acceleration.... which is expected to be included in Android 3.0?
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The lack of 4g isn't going to bring me to use cm.
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Right!
Why would I give up a major part of the phones capabilities when I paid for the phone? Kinda kills the point
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sucks for you guys. i'm using myn's with net's 4.3 kernel and it's as smooth as can be.
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IPhone might be smooth but the lack of REAL push notifications, lack of TRUE multitasking killed it for me but that was back when I had one. Don't know if its still the same lol but its overrated for sure if you ask me.
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I don't disagree with you at all, but this thread is about the smoothness, not all the other features.
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sucks for you guys. i'm using myn's with net's 4.3 kernel and it's as smooth as can be.
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Once again, still not as smooth as the iPhone.
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Once again, still not as smooth as the iPhone.
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my girl has an iphone. i'd say i can make a pretty accurate comparison, being able to hold one in each hand at the same time.
don't get all butthurt because someone is saying you're wrong.
I'm not butthurt at all. I should have said iPhone4, because that is what I was referring to. If she has an older iPhone then I would say yes, the EVO *can be* smoother. But If she has an iPhone4, then you need to get your eyes checked.
I currently have a EVO 3d and I would like to know what you like and dislike about the phone and is it worth the switch
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246838
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246838
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That has nothing to do with this thread?
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oops looks like i misread the thread...
Yeah that's not the same question
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I like it lots and lots and lots and sometimes when i use an IPhone or a HTC Sensation i like it even more .I really like being able to talk to people by pressing a few numbers not sure if it will catch on though .
jje
Had mine for the grand total of 4 days...so far i can't fault it. I upgraded from my zte blade, and this is just awesome!
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Well comparing it to the evo3d it basically has better specs plus hw acceleration which is a very nice feature. The screen is awesome imo, tho some people don't seem to like the oversaturated colours. Personally i love it but you have to check it yourself before you decide.
Anyway i wouldn't upgrade right now if i were you, you still have a very good phone, just wait for something newer and better, like the quadcores expected to come out in 2012
My first Android and like this so much. Even after using it for three months I still couldn't make it work the way I'd like, but still its not bad. Frankly, I'd be more happy if this device had iOS instead of Android.
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My first Android and like this so much. Even after using it for three months I still couldn't make it work the way I'd like, but still its not bad. Frankly, I'd be more happy if this device had iOS instead of Android.
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If this phone had IOS instead of Android id sell it, IOS is nowhere near as good as Android, everything works out of the box but your strictly limited in what you can do,i hate restriction.
Best phone right now without a doubt, having owned it since May it's been excellent! Pervious Android device was the DHD, it's faster, smoother and slicker!
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My first Android and like this so much. Even after using it for three months I still couldn't make it work the way I'd like, but still its not bad. Frankly, I'd be more happy if this device had iOS instead of Android.
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galaxy s2 is better than evo 3d, in
battery life
quadrant score
weight (u noe how light is the s2)
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galaxy s2 is better than evo 3d, in
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Lol who cares about quadrant... It's a great phone.... Had many android phones and still have others.. Nexus s and one still one of my fav but sgs2 its the greatest... I do have a evo 3d too. I like it but this just better bro. Closest to a sgs2 I would say wp7 running mango. Smoothness
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Ok thank you everyone for the input guess I'm going to get the epic touch when it comes out
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ttieder said:
Ok thank you everyone for the input guess I'm going to get the epic touch when it comes out
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Fastest android phone out there, but build quality could be better.
tbh the only phone that could probably knock the sgs2 off it's perch is the motorola atrix.. bigger battery and tegra 2, but then i've never used one so i have no idea about user experience.
Hello My very post here. Best phone I ever owned. it would have been perfect if it was a tegra Device can't see why they did that for a flagship Device !!!!
You will miss sense. Htc phones have better dialer, more useful widgets, like for example favorite contacts and rss reader, better sms delivery report, lockscreen and ringtone volume management. On other side Sgs2 has better multimedia support (mkv) better screen and weight, brilliant call quality and its very smooth in menus.
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Hello My very post here. Best phone I ever owned. it would have been perfect if it was a tegra Device can't see why they did that for a flagship Device !!!!
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If you like tegra, buy a galaxy R i9003. Its even cheaper. Here in sweden the price is 399€
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So I had my hands on an ATT MB860, 4.5.91, Gingerbread Atrix, but returned it due to the immense lag with live wall papers and the incorrectly working speakerphone.
Does an unlaggy (with lwp) Atrix exist? I've seen a couple of demo 2.3.4. Atrix's at my local (United States) ATT stores, and seen that they react the same wya (immense lag, but quick to open web pages and apps). Are laggy Atrix's a result of quality control or the FW? Or does an unlaggy Atrix exist?
I dont experience any lag on my Atrix - I've had it since Feb 21st of this year. Got it on pre-order.
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I dont experience any lag on my Atrix - I've had it since Feb 21st of this year. Got it on pre-order.
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even with live wall papers, its as smooth as butter? running 2.3.4?
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even with live wall papers, its as smooth as butter? running 2.3.4?
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On the rare occasion I do use an LP - yes, still smooth.
i had horrible lag, not with Cyanogen though.
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Don't feed the trolls
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Sorry.... I now have the chance of either getting a Nexus S, or a replacement Atrix for my ATT service. I've heard of some Atrix's being flawlessly fast and smooth regardless, however, I still have not seen it with my phone + a couple of ATT's stores demo models. I was wondering if I should jump to a "future-proof" dual core Atrix or a presently smooth Nexus S.
Only you can answer that question.
Uhm, doesn't the AT&T Nexus S NOT have 4G?
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Sorry.... I now have the chance of either getting a Nexus S, or a replacement Atrix for my ATT service. I've heard of some Atrix's being flawlessly fast and smooth regardless, however, I still have not seen it with my phone + a couple of ATT's stores demo models. I was wondering if I should jump to a "future-proof" dual core Atrix or a presently smooth Nexus S.
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I own both, Atrix is better. YMMV.
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TheBassman369 said:
I own both, Atrix is better. YMMV.
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In what ways?.. I do know the Atrix has a better battery, processor, and light notification... what does the Nexus S usurp the Atrix on?
Why does everyone like live wallpapers. I never get them.
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In what ways?.. I do know the Atrix has a better battery, processor, and light notification... what does the Nexus S usurp the Atrix on?
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In addition to what you mentioned, speed, memory management (so many launcher redraws and apps closing with only 512 MB of RAM), and screen resolution are what makes the Atrix better for me.
However, the Nexus has a much brighter and more colorful screen, albeit with a lower resolution. Personally, I like the higher res screen on the Atrix.
About the only thing the NS has over the Atrix is the fact that it's supported by Google.
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Why does everyone like live wallpapers. I never get them.
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They are OK. I find it kind of odd that my "weaker" Captivate can run live wallpapers smoother than an Atrix. Shouldn't the Atrix be blazingly smooth?
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They are OK. I find it kind of odd that my "weaker" Captivate can run live wallpapers smoother than an Atrix. Shouldn't the Atrix be blazingly smooth?
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You would think so but Moto did a bad job installing a bloated and heaving UI over the android OS. If you want that blazing speed than install CM7 like most of us have and its the quickest phone I've ever used.
no lag here at all
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Why does everyone like live wallpapers. I never get them.
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I think they are sometimes distracting, and too much of a battery drain myself...
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JayRolla said:
You would think so but Moto did a bad job installing a bloated and heaving UI over the android OS. If you want that blazing speed than install CM7 like most of us have and its the quickest phone I've ever used.
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I wouldn't say "most of us". I've never been impressed with cyanogen on any of my andriod phones.
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I wouldn't say "most of us". I've never been impressed with cyanogen on any of my andriod phones.
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Many will be installing it if that's the only way wlthat we end up tasting ICS...
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I wouldn't say "most of us". I've never been impressed with cyanogen on any of my andriod phones.
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Still is most of us, one person doesn't change it
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Guys
Any ideas when we can expect ICS on our tabs?
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Supposed to be Q1 of this year.... I wouldnt bother waiting if I were you
Try out the ICS KANG in the dev section, IMO its good enough to be a daily use ROM, just the ROM alone has made the tab actually feel like how it should have always been since HC was garbage on the tab
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Supposed to be Q1 of this year.... I wouldnt bother waiting if I were you
Try out the ICS KANG in the dev section, IMO its good enough to be a daily use ROM, just the ROM alone has made the tab actually feel like how it should have always been since HC was garbage on the tab
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Is it true that it's a lot smoother than HC? Cause we all know HC lags
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Is it true that it's a lot smoother than HC? Cause we all know HC lags
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yea way smother. HC kind of sucks imo. but i dont thing the current preview rom they have out is good enough for daily use. HQ video playback doesnt work. and that is a killer for me because i use my tab for Media mostly. But if thats not important to you then it is good enough to use every day. cant wait for the real thing though. Tablets need it bad because HC is rushed and crummy.
Yes ICS is a huge improvement over HC. I have a Galaxy Nexus and it is as smooth as an iPhone, and gets amazing battery life. I have the Kang of CM9 on the Tab and it so good I am leaving it on despite the fact my keyboard dock doesn't work. It is just too good to go back to HC.
I concur the kang is awesome. It's like ICS was made for this. Smooth and speedy. Despite no HQ playback yet I'm sticking with it no way I can go back to honeycomb now.
Patiently awaiting an official CM9 build soon.
Try it if no likey nandroid back to honeycomb.
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Is rotation lag gone, ESPECIALLY on the home screen?
Sadly not for p7500... guess have to wait a bit longer
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Is it true that it's a lot smoother than HC? Cause we all know HC lags
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Yes much smoother, HC is straight up balls compared to this KANG version
Do you guys think Samsung will cancel upgrading our Galaxy tab 10.1 to ICS so that they push a made for ICS Tab later this year?
Anybody tried using the Kang on teh P7500? The 3G version seems like lagging in the update department in terms of custom ROMs.
Yeah p7500 owners don't have much to play around with. I was wondering if we flash a p7510 rom with a modem whether we will get 3g. Anyone willing to try?
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Wifi roms work normally on 3g tab but with no 3g ,but personally I haven't tried ics yet .
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All,
what about battery lifetime on Kangs ? Anybody have any figures yet ?
The kang works fine on the 7500. Its smooth as hell too. Completely on another level compared to hc. But without HQ playback I cant use as a daily driver.
Try it out if your curious.
T he Kang is for p75xx so it does work on p7500. Tried it for acouple of hours but had to revert back to honeycomb because of lack of 3g.
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Do you guys think Samsung will cancel upgrading our Galaxy tab 10.1 to ICS so that they push a made for ICS Tab later this year?
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No as Samsung has confirmed a Q1 upgrade to ICS....
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No as Samsung has confirmed a Q1 upgrade to ICS....
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Although, that was for gs2.
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Although, that was for gs2.
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No that was for, Galaxy R, Galaxy Z, Galaxy SII, Galaxy Tab 8.9, Galaxy Tab 10.1 so don't know where you get your info from!
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All,
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Mine lasted about a week. Granted, I didn't use it much because I was busy,but still impressive. When I did use it, it was battery killing stuff too
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Well, this is it.
Is it worth trade? I was thinking about use the webtop and try to buy a vehicle dock and lapdock for a better use of the phone... But seeing on another way I have an ipad 3 and its better than the docks for Atrix, I can just plug my iPad via hdmi on my TV and I get a better "webtop".
But I still getting it on my head, is it really worth? Maybe is just excitement now with the docks that Atrix have.
Sorry my bad english btw.
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i dont really use the hdmi of the atrix but im excited to do so when i get my new tv. its a quite good phone and i hate lg but the screen quality is extremely bad (rgbw pentile matrix)... plus no 3D. the hardware is good enough, but the lack of official ics is not very positive
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Looks like Optimus 3D will get official ICS...
So you think better keep my LG? Because it have the hdmi function as well, only not the webtop, but I really dont think it is that better when compare with my Ipad 3.
Hmm...not so sure. One thing that its actually better on the Atrix is the development support. Last time i checked when i was looking to root and update my friend's O3D, the development was kind of dead at the moment. Not so sure how it is now, but it usually slows down with time, so my guess its that it must be kind of dead right now. Atrix's development is not the best one, but its great. And the community here is great. If you are OK with not receiving official ICS, i would do the trade.
I would look for something better though. Maybe a Galaxy Nexus if you can find a deal for it.
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Hmm...not so sure. One thing that its actually better on the Atrix is the development support. Last time i checked when i was looking to root and update my friend's O3D, the development was kind of dead at the moment. Not so sure how it is now, but it usually slows down with time, so my guess its that it must be kind of dead right now. Atrix's development is not the best one, but its great. And the community here is great. If you are OK with not receiving official ICS, i would do the trade.
I would look for something better though. Maybe a Galaxy Nexus if you can find a deal for it.
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The thing is that O3D community is kind waiting the ICS uptade... But I dont know, Im really confused about trade it.
Cause the O3D can not get the ICS and stuck on 2.3 forever, thats my fear, on the other hand In Atrix I would get enough custom roms as I can.
Any additional info would be appreciate!
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... the O3D can not get the ICS and stuck on 2.3 forever, thats my fear, on the other hand In Atrix I would get enough custom roms as I can.
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It seems like you've answered your own question :good: go for it!!
Noway i will go for an android phone with less than 1Gb ram.
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i dont really use the hdmi of the atrix but im excited to do so when i get my new tv. its a quite good phone and i hate lg but the screen quality is extremely bad (rgbw pentile matrix)... plus no 3D. the hardware is good enough, but the lack of official ics is not very positive
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Noway i will go for an android phone with less than 1Gb ram.
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O3D is dual-channel 512mb = 1GB.
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O3D is dual-channel 512mb = 1GB.
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Nope, total is 512 and you have 2 channel with 256mb each.
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Nope, total is 512 and you have 2 channel with 256mb each.
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Really man? Argh... I Just tough it was 1gb.
Now im really considering to trade it.
If I look at my Atrix here, I wouldn't choose it again. Honestly, I love the fingerprint scanner - and due to that + the chipset we're pretty stuck on gingerbread. A ton of apps do require ICS and JB and we're pretty stuck; Don't want to sound desperate or pessimistic, but even my P1 runs on JB by now - so I wouldn't swap if I were you.
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If I look at my Atrix here, I wouldn't choose it again. Honestly, I love the fingerprint scanner - and due to that + the chipset we're pretty stuck on gingerbread. A ton of apps do require ICS and JB and we're pretty stuck; Don't want to sound desperate or pessimistic, but even my P1 runs on JB by now - so I wouldn't swap if I were you.
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LG Optimus 3D won't gonna get any ICS it appears... And the Atrix can use JB from custom roms right? So it won't be stuck forever.
If it was me I'd do the trade but I think you should look at other phones too maybe ones with ICS and JB support. But you should also look how active the development is. Luckily us atrix users have great developers
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If it was me I'd do the trade but I think you should look at other phones too maybe ones with ICS and JB support. But you should also look how active the development is. Luckily us atrix users have great developers
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I don't have any other options, and for me... I use my phone to SMS, calls and a little bit web search, but I use alot the HDMI feature to see some movies on my girlfriend's house, so webtop would be cool too.
If I can upgrade, even from custom roms to JB or ICS Im going to be happy anyway, I dont need a powerful smartphone, only one which dont freezes and lags when im texting or awnsering an call like my old Moto Milestone (hate it).
Atrix can do all of them things perfectly and webtop on ICS is looking promising. Or you can use tablet ui which is quite good. If you have no other choice I'd recommend the atrix I'm running epinters latest CM10 build, the battery is great and it is a great daily driver would highly recommend that.
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Atrix can do all of them things perfectly and webtop on ICS is looking promising. Or you can use tablet ui which is quite good. If you have no other choice I'd recommend the atrix I'm running epinters latest CM10 build, the battery is great and it is a great daily driver would highly recommend that.
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Yea, I just want an good phone to daily uses... If the customs roms from Atrix grants this, Im happy to make the deal.
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i have just gone from evo 3d to atrix 4g, my opinion the atrix is better ,great phone
It is just not funny to have more workarounds than features due to nvidia and Motorola
And also the lapdock is so useful, I can even plug my PC on it and use.
Atrix is really a good deal, Im going to make it if my friend still wants.
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Lies. The ICS leak has semi-good drivers and FP support.
I also think that the Atrix is a better phone. Only issue with it is that the Atrix tends to damage the digitizer by itself. It happens suddenly. One day you are using your phone normally, 100% ok, and the next one you have a dead strip on your digitizer with no response at all. Look that issue up before you make the trade.
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