Windows 8 Consumer Preview - Metro + Start - Windows 8 General

You know how you can remove and replace the meter interface end start button?

http://bit.ly/vLfptB

MS disabled start menu for now they want more opinions on metro
which insane cos no one will use metro to desktop /laptop

Proz00 said:
MS disabled start menu for now they want more opinions on metro
which insane cos no one will use metro to desktop /laptop
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I agree, it is not useful in desk/lap

maxdelay said:
You know how you can remove and replace the meter interface end start button?
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same as my problem , hope some one help.

i do not like metro style too. can i disable it .

I think that Microsoft is finally thinking out of the box I installed win8 on my dell xps and while the touch pad is annoying I like the metro look and feel
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Love the METRO,
I want desktop Apps extinct already like DOS programs

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PointUI HOME application

Have any of you guys given this a go yet? http://www.pointui.com/
Its a major improvement over the Standard windows mobile home screen and gives an easier to use interface with your finger.
No ROM cooking involved just install over the top of windows mobile 5 or 6. Its kinda like an improved today screen.
I downloaded it today and I have to say its made me alot happier using the phone without a stylus.
It has just been released and is free to use on any windows mobile device.
Take a look...
http://www.pointui.com/Home.aspx
But it doesn't support VGA devices?? - Mike
Shame it doesnt support true vga 96 dpi......however its really nice looking and i like imput/design ui a lot, wallpaper and color scheme should be user defined.
it does work in 96dpi, kind of, I think we need to resize one or two of the backgrounds to make it work well.
not gone through the jif files yet, I'm presuming it'll be one of those.
they got a fix for that now, a temporary one on their website
Hi,
I have installed this application but I didn't really like it the way I was expecting it to perform. The problem is, I can't get rid of it now. I have removed the program from remove program but it still shows the 'Home' option on the task bar.
Can anyone help me to remove this program?
Regards
SS
sachdes said:
Can anyone help me to remove this program?
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SS
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Go into the program - run 'Update' and one of the options is to remove. Arse about face I know but...
Hi
I am usining it on 128 and 96 dpi
Works fine but when putting in pin for fone the buttons have all tobe touched to see them and then use clear and then enter the pin as u can now see the buutons ???
Any way to fix this ???
good stuff, i like it here ,works good with my HTC PPC 6800
I think once finalized, this could indeed be a killer application for the Athena as it encompasses all areas usually only accessible through the native WM O/S, but in a much more stylish and finger touch pleasing way.

Windows 8 sucks for desktops....

lets be honest here.... the metro UI looks nice and all, but without a touch screen its completely out of place.. Keyboard and mouse interfaces have traditionally been vertical, you move through web pages vertically, you scroll through lists vertically, but metro UI is horizontal, scrolling down to turn right isn't quite intuitive....
and yea Ive done the "hack" to bring back the old start menu, but if you do that the metro UI kinda trips out plus thats the whole point of using windows 8 versus windows 7...
... worst thing was I deleted my Ubuntu partition to use it, but in a couple of days I think I'm gonna get the Ubuntu 11.10 beta 2 and delete windows 8
I totally agree..because what we expect from a PC is ease of access not the other way around...especially from keyboard and mouse they want us to use tiles
feels kinda stupid..the wrost case is search if I want to access a program is that really necessary for me to know which category it will falls in...its easy sometimes but not in the case of normal users....if MS really doesn't want to face the vista situation...they need to really think about the PC version of Win8....one more thing I want yo point out is that OS is really good for touchscreen capable devices but not for analog device operation....this is my opinion for the current developer built and not for win8 as a whole...
dats true tablet layout on PC is weird.
But win 8's performance is awesome.
maybe i'm just weird like that, but i kinda like the metro ui on my laptop/desktop setup. even though i don't have a touch-enabled screen, it didn't take me long to get used to using metro and make it work the way i like.
The live tiles and simplicity of it all are very nice, and dual booting Kubuntu was simple, I'm quite sure triple booting (Win7) would be a piece of cake as well. The desk top with the split screen is awesome! And a desktop is a desk top I don 't see the big deal here... Oh, this is a pre beta, I almost forgot. So let's see, New features, choices, smaller footprint, options, OH and Upgrade!?!? Can we try and see the cool part of it?
Waste of large application widget grids...
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It's a dev preview. It's not even a beta. Anything can and will change. Don't base your opinions of W8 on this.
Damn. How do u get 500MB download speed? Why apple?
You are not forces to use Metro. The Classic desktop will be there too.
Will they be implementing Kinect to use with the new dashboard for those who dont have a touchscreen?
i love the boot's time of win8
I love everything about it. Smooth, fast, easy to use. Even Metro UI that will be lot better when we have apps for it. And sync! Seriously, Windows 8 is fine.
I didnt have any BSOD until now. Just some freezes in my Mac Mini (but my Dell is perfect), and I can blame Apple for that.
For those who hate Metro UI.. Stop complaining a little. You can use the default desktop as your main, and Metro UI just as a launcher of apps/programs. Whining wont make MS remove it. This is the future. If you think you'd do better, then try to be Microsoft's CEO.
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lets be honest here.... the metro UI looks nice and all, but without a touch screen its completely out of place.. Keyboard and mouse interfaces have traditionally been vertical, you move through web pages vertically, you scroll through lists vertically, but metro UI is horizontal, scrolling down to turn right isn't quite intuitive....
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I have to agree. I've been through the dev preview and I very much like the layout.. for a tablet. On a desktop however, it just seems wrong.
Arowan said:
i love the boot's time of win8
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Becuz they just cheated u by just hibernating..
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yes it does
this is not a revolution, its a start over from the first day of pc's
what a disgrace
how long ago did a dialog box have a simple solid color? along with the buttons?
master.peterm said:
lets be honest here.... the metro UI looks nice and all, but without a touch screen its completely out of place.. Keyboard and mouse interfaces have traditionally been vertical, you move through web pages vertically, you scroll through lists vertically, but metro UI is horizontal, scrolling down to turn right isn't quite intuitive....
and yea Ive done the "hack" to bring back the old start menu, but if you do that the metro UI kinda trips out plus thats the whole point of using windows 8 versus windows 7...
... worst thing was I deleted my Ubuntu partition to use it, but in a couple of days I think I'm gonna get the Ubuntu 11.10 beta 2 and delete windows 8
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Aside from Windows Mobile and Pocket PC, Microsoft has always kind of had horizontal interfaces(Windows Media Center, Live, Xbox 360, etc etc). But just to note, this preview isn't anything final or was made to be ran as a daily OS. The Metro UI is made for tablets, it most likely won't be incorporated in final desktop builds or if it is, it'll be more adjusted to the desktop environment. All this Preview was made to do, was introduce Metro UI and the tools to create apps to work with the Metro UI. Even though it's still heavily based on NT 6.1, so far Windows 8 uses less resources than what Windows 7 did in both beta and final builds thanks to some kernel differences as well as filesystem changes.
Looking at the past as well, the Windows 7 beta used more resources than Windows 7 final. Windows Vista used more resources than both. Windows XP was built in a different manor, so not really counting XP in this. So far, Windows Developer preview is using less resources than Windows 7 7601. If history repeats itself, Windows 8 final will use less resources than the betas, developer preview, and 7. And if rumors of registry being cut out in windows 8 final and apps that need the registry is being taken care of by Hyper-V support, then to me that makes Windows 8 x100 times better than previous Windows systems.
as far as I am concerned Windows 8 is just UI update for tablets or other devices that have touch screens and shouldn't be called windows 8 it should be windows 7.1 !
Check your machine configuration!!
Starting to like this
I have used every version of windows since 2.5 on 5.25 floppy disk's. It took alot of getting used to not having the start menu that we have been used to since 1995. But with that said once you start getting the navigation down pat it is alot faster at finding and running programs. Wait i have to be politically correct here APPS LOL. I boot up which is amazing and click the Firefox app and Bam i am on the internet kinda digging it. The only thing that i have an issue with is None of the preinstalled apps work trust me im on a dell xps15 and my screen resolution is good enough. gonna try a reinstall with a fresh wipe to see if that clears it up. other than that i'm happy.
vbetts said:
Aside from Windows Mobile and Pocket PC, Microsoft has always kind of had horizontal interfaces(Windows Media Center, Live, Xbox 360, etc etc). But just to note, this preview isn't anything final or was made to be ran as a daily OS. The Metro UI is made for tablets, it most likely won't be incorporated in final desktop builds or if it is, it'll be more adjusted to the desktop environment. All this Preview was made to do, was introduce Metro UI and the tools to create apps to work with the Metro UI. Even though it's still heavily based on NT 6.1, so far Windows 8 uses less resources than what Windows 7 did in both beta and final builds thanks to some kernel differences as well as filesystem changes.
Looking at the past as well, the Windows 7 beta used more resources than Windows 7 final. Windows Vista used more resources than both. Windows XP was built in a different manor, so not really counting XP in this. So far, Windows Developer preview is using less resources than Windows 7 7601. If history repeats itself, Windows 8 final will use less resources than the betas, developer preview, and 7. And if rumors of registry being cut out in windows 8 final and apps that need the registry is being taken care of by Hyper-V support, then to me that makes Windows 8 x100 times better than previous Windows systems.
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yes they will incorporate it in final pcs...
however I actually have enjoyed metro ui and it actually functions pretty darn well on a desktop pc
There are some things I hope will be changed (mouse simulating touch input for instance which can alleviate a lot of transition issues) but otherwise I have a really good experience of it

[Q] There is two different versions of Windows 8?

i have watched a few videos on youtube about windows 8, i have come across the, Windows phone 7 style, and then there is the windows 7 desktop style!
and i have a few questions about them.
how is the windows phone 7 style going to work on non touch computers? if i have to click on every tile that is going to be dumb.
and the windows 7 desktop style, i watched a couple videos and its about julinux?!?! what is this??? its based on ubuntu? did microsoft buy linux? or is it just a REEEALLY good fake??
They are the same, but windows 8 has a "Windows 7 mode".
The defoult "theme" is the windows phone 7 style
They arent "2 version"
but they are getting rid of start menu changing it for the start screen with tiles.
its the same, both are launchers, so you launch your apps, your documents and apps from there. just like old start menu
of course now, you got a full screen launcher, with nice tiles which tell you info.
now there will be metro style UI apps. but since there arent metro style UI apps nor store in developer preview, there isn't much point to use the new UI. more than as a launcher, thats when we use desktop.
what is desktop? its like an app, to run desktop UI software, like we did before. now it will be like an app, since it wont be the centric point of Windows anymore.
but Windows needs to run the normal desktop software and thats the only way, having old desktop there.
and everything Works nice with nontouch. i have been using developer preview for a week and it works cool.
and obviously you have to click on tiles, tiles = icons, but they can display information, which is useful when you use more metro style UI which means having real apps and not samples like DP.
i dont know how that is dumb, since its the same you did with old start menu.
but its like the same, a launcher but gives more. since you will get information like windows phone, it looks cool (if you change some dll info like i did), and its for touch AND mouse and keyboard. so it can be used the way you want or need.
its a big change, but it doesn't change the same of what you already have with start menu.
if people complained about start menu from xp to vista. obviously people will complain about new UI. but its all about getting used to it, it took me some hours. to make it work similar way to start menu. so yeah it works fine. but not everyone will like this change.
Emi_Cyberschreiber said:
They arent "2 version"
but they are getting rid of start menu .....QUOTE]
Indeed its the same version, something ive found really awkward is that the Metro interface works really well on a touch device, i find it quick and easy to use and when PROGRAMS (!!!!) start using the tiles it will only get better, however i just find it a bit awkward using the mouse, it just itsnt as fluid and almost feels clumsy.
its fine for just launching stuff but to flick back an forward doesnt feel right, Win 8 has its place secured in the tablet market but Metro on Win 8 is going to have a hard time on non-touch desktop computers, win 8 its self is great on a desktop id like to add, even in its current state.
i cant remember where i read it but some one sumed it up quite well with
whats Win 8? Its Win 7 on Speed! (a Drug)
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PC is becoming tablet?

Anyone here is watching CES 2012 on facebook?
Right now that lady is demo-ing the Windows 8 Tablet, i like the original idea about Windows 8 is bringing Metro UI to Desktop, but i think the marketplace / apps for Desktop is something stupid to me.
I think Microsoft has gone too far and almost completely forgotten about PC hardcore User. Ebay apps when we have IE/Firefox/Chrome for Ebay.com?
Maybe i am wrong over here, because until now i have no clue about the idea behind Marketplace for PC.
What do you guys think?
i think such idea of app market on the W8 is for the tablet, that is ok though, as long as they figure out away to port win32 software to run on apps, i would be the first one to get in line to get the tablet, other than that, i am good with my asus transformer
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Anyone here is watching CES 2012 on facebook?
Right now that lady is demo-ing the Windows 8 Tablet, i like the original idea about Windows 8 is bringing Metro UI to Desktop, but i think the marketplace / apps for Desktop is something stupid to me.
I think Microsoft has gone too far and almost completely forgotten about PC hardcore User. Ebay apps when we have IE/Firefox/Chrome for Ebay.com?
Maybe i am wrong over here, because until now i have no clue about the idea behind Marketplace for PC.
What do you guys think?
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For tablets, maybe netbooks with a little screen, its a good OS. But... on a 24 inch Monitor? Serious, I tested the preview and in Metro the handling with mouse and keyboards sucks! It even interrups the productivity flow in the "desktop app". If I am on the classic desktop and want to open a programm from the start menu: Why do I have to go back to the start screen and type.
This is so unintuitive and doesn't suit to the desktop design at all...
the thing is, Microsoft has focus more on the Tablet than our - PC user.
You can see almost everything on the Keynote of Steve on CES 2012 (which has just ended ) is focus on the mobility of the technology nowday.
Tablet with ARM/ x64 / x86 , nVIDIA Tegra are all cool. But hand down, they didn't notice anything about the original idea of PC , yes, when i mean the mouse and the keyboard.
The idea behind Marketplace for Windows 8 PC is something still new. And i hope, the marketplace is like a place where we can search all kind of applications for PC around the web without having google/bing it around.
Don't get me wrong , i am a Microsoft fan and i own a Windows Phone.
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The idea behind Marketplace for Windows 8 PC is something still new. And i hope, the marketplace is like a place where we can search all kind of applications for PC around the web without having google/bing it around.
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Thats the point! The marketplace is just for Metro apps and I don't understand why I should use an app if I have a internetbrowser (ebay, etc). The apps are optimized for small screens so it's just annoying to swipe with your mouse or use some strange shortcuts to show up the menu bar if you have enough space to display everything you need.
The link for whoever missed the keynote:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/events/ces/liveevent.aspx
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Yes. The thing is, there is no point from moving to use an app to control the web-based service like Ebay or Amazon. I mean, if you have a touch screen, you would love to do that because i know that typing on the touch screen is such pain in the ass.
But with PC is different, a mouse and keyboard are far more advanced than a touch screen. We have been using our browser to do most stuffs, we don't need an app to do that. For example, i can have IE9 , and i can do most stuffs from betting on Ebay to buying stuffs on Amazon without having anything extra installed except for some flash plug-ins. So why choosing install many different apps and make your PC slower while you can get everything just by a click of a mouse on the icon of the browser?
Many people would say to me that if i don't like it then don't use it, but that isn't a point. It is fine that Microsoft try to make a buck over tablets , but they seem to be forgetting about PC user like us, i hear nothing about the original PC in the keynote except some new Laptops and Intel's new path for the future. That's why i am little bit disappointed.
CES is all about what is cool and hip today. Right now that is mobile devices so MS's CES pitch focuses on Windows 8. MS is leaving CES after this year so they can focus on getting the message they want out without having to follow the hot theme and control better the presentation of their message. You can expect that message to be heavily based around HTML 5 and web based apps to the detriment of those that develop windows apps.
I'm new to Windows 8 in general so be gentle...
(These are meant as general comments, not picking on you Strike_Eagle, you were just the last post I read.)
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The link for whoever missed the keynote:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/events/ces/liveevent.aspx
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Thanks for that, watching now!
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Yes. The thing is, there is no point from moving to use an app to control the web-based service like Ebay or Amazon.
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Agree completely here. I don't even use those types of apps on my Xoom, if its a browser based service or app, I just use the Xooms browser. It's a real browser, no need for an app.
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But with PC is different, a mouse and keyboard are far more advanced than a touch screen.
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I disagree a bit here, the way a touch screen is used is different than that of a mouse, it shouldn't be seen as a replacement for a mouse. Multi touch functions and gestures are what touch screen input excels at. However, emulating simple mouse input, navigating the screen or cursor, etc.. eh, not so much. I added a BT mouse to my Xoom and many things are MUCH faster using it rather than touching the screen, but some things are easier and faster using the touch screen.
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It is fine that Microsoft try to make a buck over tablets , but they seem to be forgetting about PC user like us <snip>.
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I see this as much more than MS looking to make a buck on tablets. As power of mobile devices increases, as "cloud" (I hate that term) storage becomes more prevalent, its going to be very important to have a seamless experience across devices. For example, I use Google Music and Chrome. No matter what device I'm on, Xoom, desktop, laptop, all of my playlists and bookmarks are the same. This is where I think MS is going with Windows 8, they're looking to have their OS be everywhere and work the same (or similar) no matter what device you're on. Or at least be flexible enough to do that.
FuturePrimitive said:
I disagree a bit here, the way a touch screen is used is different than that of a mouse, it shouldn't be seen as a replacement for a mouse. Multi touch functions and gestures are what touch screen input excels at. However, emulating simple mouse input, navigating the screen or cursor, etc.. eh, not so much. I added a BT mouse to my Xoom and many things are MUCH faster using it rather than touching the screen, but some things are easier and faster using the touch screen.
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lol no.
With multitouch you can zoom, rotate, roll and that's it, with a precision that is useless for most task but browser internet and catalog some photos.
For example, let's say that we have a picture of 2000x1500 and we want to select a square of 256x256... with multitouch you can't do that.
In fact, clicking a single link can become a tedious work of zoom then click.
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(These are meant as general comments, not picking on you Strike_Eagle, you were just the last post I read.).
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Oh, don't need to worry about it, it is cool. Forum is a place for discussion, right?
FuturePrimitive said:
I disagree a bit here, the way a touch screen is used is different than that of a mouse, it shouldn't be seen as a replacement for a mouse. Multi touch functions and gestures are what touch screen input excels at. However, emulating simple mouse input, navigating the screen or cursor, etc.. eh, not so much. I added a BT mouse to my Xoom and many things are MUCH faster using it rather than touching the screen, but some things are easier and faster using the touch screen.
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Yea, i got your point man. Everything has its own advantage. Something which is so great to use the multi-touch. I never say that the multitouch would be a replacement for the mouse anytime soon. But my point, was like, Something which is designed for Multi-Touch might not be a great deal for mouse and keyboard.
the word "advanced" here , i mean , you can do more stuffs with a keyboard than a touch-screen, or the keyboard and mouse give you more advantages than the touch-screen give you. Don't get me wrong man, if you do photoshop , you would know that you can do stuffs with the picture by mouse and press the short cut on the keyboard for special effect at the sametime, which is can't be done by multi-touch, Because Multi-Touch is like a combination of mouse and keyboard , for the benifit of portable device.
But with Multi-Touch , you can also do stuffs that you would not ever archieve with a mouse. Well, you know what i mean, like drawing. But the limitation of technology nowday can't take that advantage *yet*. the screen is not that sensitive enough to make a perfect drawing like with Pencil and paper.
This agrument seem to be valid, keep it up man. , i don't hate multi-touch device, because i have myself a HTC Titan and probably a Windows 8 Tablet soon.
ok, you are a hardcore user, then just keep using the desktop. why are you mad that other people will get to use metro.
Tablets and apps are popular nowadays,so you cant ignore it. That is why windows 8 integrated metro. If you dont like it,you dont have to use it. Windows 8 desktop is bringing a bunch of new features as well. The OS is leaner and faster,and more secure.
Now i realized that we forgot about Kinect for PC... Are they trying to have us buy the kinect to use it for the metro UI on PC?
Strike_Eagle said:
Anyone here is watching CES 2012 on facebook?
Right now that lady is demo-ing the Windows 8 Tablet, i like the original idea about Windows 8 is bringing Metro UI to Desktop, but i think the marketplace / apps for Desktop is something stupid to me.
I think Microsoft has gone too far and almost completely forgotten about PC hardcore User. Ebay apps when we have IE/Firefox/Chrome for Ebay.com?
Maybe i am wrong over here, because until now i have no clue about the idea behind Marketplace for PC.
What do you guys think?
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I FULLY AGREE WITH YOU!
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Isn't the idea of Marketplace that it will have all types of Apps and full applications like Photoshop, office etc? Similar to the Mac App Store?
Hopefully this doesn't have much effect on the gaming industry, mainly shooters. First, they were dumb'd down for consoles, now they could be severely dumb'd down for Tablets. I shudder at the thought.
There will probably be plenty of crossovers from other touch platforms (iOS, Android), but it shouldn't affect the *real* games.
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Hopefully this doesn't have much effect on the gaming industry, mainly shooters. First, they were dumb'd down for consoles, now they could be severely dumb'd down for Tablets. I shudder at the thought.
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Microsoft has something called " Windows PC Game Marketplace" *if i am not wrong* already.
I have heard about it, i have seen it (Operation Flashpoint : Red River) but i never used it. Valve's Steam is the solution most people looking for. Even Origin can't compare to Steam.
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Microsoft has something called " Windows PC Game Marketplace" *if i am not wrong* already.
I have heard about it, i have seen it (Operation Flashpoint : Red River) but i never used it. Valve's Steam is the solution most people looking for. Even Origin can't compare to Steam.
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"Games for Windows Live" I think is what you're referring to.
x ZackehSoul x said:
"Games for Windows Live" I think is what you're referring to.
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Yes, thanks for pointing that out.
I wonder if XNA games will play a large role in the Windows App store?

[Q] What is the need of a desktop in windows 8?If the whole thing is in Start menu?

I dont know y microsoft gave a desktop in widows 8 when you can do everything in the start menu?
they made it so the old user won't have problems fitting themselves to the new UI.
and it's made so pc user can use W8 correctly (no too damn big buttons)
They did it so Windows 8 can run older windows apps as well as metro apps.
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They did it so Windows 8 can run older windows apps as well as metro apps.
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exactly, it was for backward compatibility with older versions of Windows. But truly the metro screen is just a new incarnation of the start menu.
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So does that mean windows 8 still has a regular desktop? also is it possible to install windows 8 on tablets, thats what it seems like its meant for
i could have sworn that I answered almost the exact same question the other day....
robotnikman said:
So does that mean windows 8 still has a regular desktop? also is it possible to install windows 8 on tablets, thats what it seems like its meant for
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Windows 8 does have desktop
Windows (8) RT does not, that is the ARM fork of windows, or at least that is what we believe to be the case
you can install Windows 8 on a tablet based on x86,
Tablets based on ARM can not be installed, or at least that is what MS intends, it might be possible but out of the box Windows RT isn't a retail product.
Assembly Language said:
I dont know y microsoft gave a desktop in widows 8 when you can do everything in the start menu?
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For the same reason why it has a desktop in Win7!?!
What a ridiculous question.
Hmm, as I've observed. Maybe that's one thing that makes Win8 boot more faster.
Yep, I think they did it because if the left it out, all the old windows Users would miss it and won't use W8, and since it is aviable, users that don't like the Metro theme, can use the old Desktop..
But I don't like it at all! Maybe on a TouchPad, or a Notebook with Touchscreen.. But for usual Desktops and Laptops the new metro theme in W8 is not a very good solution.
I don't like all that Touch-Stuff (You can see that in thr "new" Ubunu, too), since i'm using a regular Laptop & Desktop without any Touch screens.. They could implement for example something like scrolling by moving the cursor to the side of the screen, to make it more comfortable for users like me..
I think I'll stay on Win7.. Updating is too expensive anyway .
Without a desktop everything would need more time. Like to copy a text from the "internet explorer" to a word document.
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Without a desktop everything would need more time. Like to copy a text from the "internet explorer" to a word document.
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How so? Metro does have context menus. The multitasking needs a little work (Apps repeatedly restart on me when I switch to them) but it takes the same amount of time. If you think otherwise you're a tiny bit delusional. You have to focus the app anyway (even in desktop), right click and press paste, or if you use keyboard shortcuts, use them. Same amount of time really.
Also,.user two posts above, they DO scroll by moving the mouse top the side of the screen. ;-)
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Assembly Language said:
I dont know y microsoft gave a desktop in widows 8 when you can do everything in the start menu?
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because metro sucks if you have a gaming rig and non touch screen
ShinigamiH4ck3r said:
because metro sucks if you have a gaming rig and non touch screen
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Disagree, I play games with Windows 8 on my NetBook and they play fine, I also have attached a keyboard, mouse and monitor to it and it was still alright to use.
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Think about trying to be a programmer on metro. Its a big pain, desktop is never going to fade unless major editors and compilers find some way to make it more convient on metro, which i doubt since you have the constant need to quickly switch between programs and explorer windows
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Dri94 said:
Think about trying to be a programmer on metro. Its a big pain, desktop is never going to fade unless major editors and compilers find some way to make it more convient on metro, which i doubt since you have the constant need to quickly switch between programs and explorer windows
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I doubt it will be that hard. Would love to try writing code inside metro, compilers won't need metro equivalents though only editors (SciTe, VS, etc.) but either way, people are missing the point of metro which is not to replace the standard desktop, but replace the start menu and enhance the desktop.
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ShadowEO said:
I doubt it will be that hard. Would love to try writing code inside metro, compilers won't need metro equivalents though only editors (SciTe, VS, etc.) but either way, people are missing the point of metro which is not to replace the standard desktop, but replace the start menu and enhance the desktop.
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No, Microsoft is trying to replace the standard desktop.
The main reason for thinking this.. they are trying to do away with the file/object system that computers have been based on for just about forever. They are pushing towards a data-driven interface. The two don't mesh well, which is why windows 8 is a mess of different methodologies.
It really all has very little to do with touchscreens and such. Touch is just the current and most obvious way of interacting with data.
ShadowEO said:
I doubt it will be that hard. Would love to try writing code inside metro, compilers won't need metro equivalents though only editors (SciTe, VS, etc.) but either way, people are missing the point of metro which is not to replace the standard desktop, but replace the start menu and enhance the desktop.
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Switching between browser, text editor, eclipse (just as an example) and such take longer when using the metro way [moving mouse to topleft waiting for thing to pop up and then selecting], each time. thats all i mean
Dri94 said:
Switching between browser, text editor, eclipse (just as an example) and such take longer when using the metro way [moving mouse to topleft waiting for thing to pop up and then selecting], each time. thats all i mean
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Agree with that. Only the action of shutting down the computer is slower than in Windows 7. You have to wait the bar to pop up, then select settings, and then shut down instead of moving quickly the mouse to the bottom left corner, click on Start button and press Shut down.
I have always used multitasking keys to switch apps, so there is no difference in speed, but win8 seems snappier.
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ShinigamiH4ck3r said:
because metro sucks if you have a gaming rig and non touch screen
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Also disagree. I play alsorts of games on my tablet and have had no problems. I will admit that without a touch screen you loose alot of fun from Windows 8, but if you are a serious gamer like me, Windows 7 ultimate x64 is for gaming, windows 8 x64 is for work/living room/bedtime/keeping the wife quiet

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