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[Q] Might be getting a Shift

I have the Evo now but am giving that phone to my dad when I bring them onto my family plan and will be using his new contract to get a different phone. My question for you Shift owners is does the Shift use a GPL to control it's graphics (should be smother for scrolling if I'm not mistaken) instead of hardware control? Also I've heard numerous people say that the shift is a lot faster even though it's running a 800mhz processor instead of a 1ghz like the Evo. Keyboard doesn't really mean much to me as I will most likely be using the on screen more than the physical. Thank you all in advanced.

corybucher said:
I have the Evo now but am giving that phone to my dad when I bring them onto my family plan and will be using his new contract to get a different phone. My question for you Shift owners is does the Shift use a GPL to control it's graphics (should be smother for scrolling if I'm not mistaken) instead of hardware control? Also I've heard numerous people say that the shift is a lot faster even though it's running a 800mhz processor instead of a 1ghz like the Evo. Keyboard doesn't really mean much to me as I will most likely be using the on screen more than the physical. Thank you all in advanced.
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My dad has the original Evo and myself the Shift. It blows the Evo away in my opinion. The keyboard is great, the graphics amazing, the screen vivid, and the processor seems to be quite a bit faster. Not to mention the dev attention this phone is getting so far. We are only about, what, a couple months in and we already have MIUI, new sense, cm6, cm7, and an aosp gingerbread, and a 1.8ghz overclock, and an upcoming dual boot from myself. I don't see what phone is better on Sprint?(;
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Thanks for the response, I believe you just made my decision very easy to say the least.

I will add thise too. I bought the shift over the evo for the 2nd gen snapdragon and new GPU. However, I use the keyboard a helluva lot more than I ever thought I would.
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bubby323 said:
My dad has the original Evo and myself the Shift. It blows the Evo away in my opinion. The keyboard is great, the graphics amazing, the screen vivid, and the processor seems to be quite a bit faster. Not to mention the dev attention this phone is getting so far. We are only about, what, a couple months in and we already have MIUI, new sense, cm6, cm7, and an aosp gingerbread, and a 1.8ghz overclock, and an upcoming dual boot from myself. I don't see what phone is better on Sprint?(;
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Aight, Bubby. Curiousity's peaked here, what're we dual booting with? Whatever it is it sounds crazy and I want some!
^ Shift Faced

Can anyone point me to cm7? Can't seem to find it in the development thread.

koolkid09 said:
Can anyone point me to cm7? Can't seem to find it in the development thread.
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CyanogenMod 7 isn't available for the HTC Evo Shift, but there is Evervolv which is based off CyanogenMod 7 source.
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936822

teharchitekt said:
CyanogenMod 7 isn't available for the HTC Evo Shift, but there is Evervolv which is based off CyanogenMod 7 source.
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936822
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Yes it is. Look on BC's development page. Its linked in his WIP thread.
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Edit: Here's the link to all bc's current roms. http://www.thebcblends.com/shift/roms/

And in that thread bcnice never discusses that CyanogenMod 6, not CyanogenMod 7. And just because there is a linked ROM in that directory does not explain how stable it is.

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And in that thread bcnice never discusses that CyanogenMod 6, not CyanogenMod 7. And just because there is a linked ROM in that directory does not explain how stable it is.
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I didn't say it was stable, just that the rom IS available.
However, since I'm equipped with all things necessary to flash a rom, I have ran cm6, cm7 and evervolv each for at least a solid day. I'd also like to note that MY rom of choice is Evervolv.
Since you're so quick to mention stability, all three are having the same issues. MMS and Camera being the ones most users will notice.
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I didn't say it was stable, just that the rom IS available.
However, since I'm equipped with all things necessary to flash a rom, I have ran cm6, cm7 and evervolv each for at least a solid day. I'd also like to note that MY rom of choice is Evervolv.
Since you're so quick to mention stability, all three are having the same issues. MMS and Camera being the ones most users will notice.
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And in your quickness to try to tear apart my responses, you miss read me. I never said that, that release wasn't stable, just the developer has not mention anything about stable it was in the first place.

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And in your quickness to try to tear apart my responses, you miss read me. I never said that, that release wasn't stable, just the developer has not mention anything about stable it was in the first place.
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I wasn't trying to tear it apart. Will admit that I missed your point though.
We are fortunate to have a lot of development going on. Especially for this early in the devices span.
Sent from my PG06100

teharchitekt said:
CyanogenMod 7 isn't available for the HTC Evo Shift, but there is Evervolv which is based off CyanogenMod 7 source.
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936822
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Just to set this correct... Evervolv is not 'based' off of CM7, however there is quite a bit of source that is gathered from CyanogenMod. Most of this is hardware related and C/CPP that i havent even dabbled into just yet. The rest are features/coding that i thought i would like to learn how it was implemented and put it into evervolv and have tried my own work from there. Example: Rotary lockscreen.. this was pushed to CM6 a while back, i liked it and wondered how it was done... from there I coded it myself to work with the phone answering also (which at the time had not been done with CM.)
Thanks
-Andrew

BrandoKC said:
I will add thise too. I bought the shift over the evo for the 2nd gen snapdragon and new GPU. However, I use the keyboard a helluva lot more than I ever thought I would.
Sent from my HTC Evo Shift 4G
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Same here, the kb is actually better than expected

draztikrhymez said:
Same here, the kb is actually better than expected
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That makes three of us. The keyboard literally had NOTHING to do with my upgrade.
Now I don't want a phone without one.

Ok, so I got the shift yesterday and have already rooted it and installed a custom rom with 1.51ghz kernel and so far I am very impressed with the speed and smoothness of this phone. Kb is actual worth it because it nice and rubberized and easy to type on. So which aosp rom is the best (most funtional) right now? I like sense but prefer aosp more of course because of speed. Also anyone working on a liquid acer port? Absolutely love that look. Thanks for all the responses btw.
Sent from my Evolution

so i'm thinking of getting this for the wife when her upgrade is up in April. One of her sticking points it that she likes the camera on my EVO and she's put off by the 5mp camera on the Shift. I explained to her that the MP was not that big of a deal that hardware/software make the biggest difference on picture quality. SO can any of you guys that came from the EVO compare the camera on the SHIFT vs EVO?

mntbkr said:
so i'm thinking of getting this for the wife when her upgrade is up in April. One of her sticking points it that she likes the camera on my EVO and she's put off by the 5mp camera on the Shift. I explained to her that the MP was not that big of a deal that hardware/software make the biggest difference on picture quality. SO can any of you guys that came from the EVO compare the camera on the SHIFT vs EVO?
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The camera honestly is not bad.
Then again, I do carry around an actual camera at times, but for the phone, the pictures are fine. I like the size (EVO might have been a little to big to carry around), I especially like having a physical keyboard (came from a BlackBerry Curve to the Shift), and I just overall love it. Got it rooted, set the clock speeds and have vastly improved my battery life.
It's all a matter of personal preference in the end though.
I would post a photo I've taken (of flowers) but I can't since I have to post more before I'm allowed to.

Is this the end at gingerbread?

Well guys i was thinking about it. Also thinking about other sense devices that may come with ICS and thinking about if it can run with a sense 3.5 on it or sense 4.0 or something. So I was thinking that eventually our devices cant be upped to the higher sense versions eventually. So I was wondering about the life of AOSP. When will our devices stop being able to run straight android?
When I say run I refer to the ability to be usable. None of this constant reboots or all to common issues, radio network, wifi drops, reboots etc.
I predict a year until our devices can not fully support the next sense version if 3.5 can be run reliably. I give straight Android till the next update. I am still unsure of how ICS will run on our devices very well but I do think it will be and will have the people from major AOSP makers/flavor teams out there getting it to work.
This update brings duel core in a year it will be quad core etc. and follow suit.
What are you peoples ideas? How long can our device stay breathing?

I have none of those problems with aosp?
Sense already should not be run on our phones because of the hog it is. I don't think Google will be outing all these phones next year.
Deck's + SZ + SuperCharger script + ViperMod script.

That is why I think AOSP will be the only way to go further.
Our Devices Running sense are pretty much maxed out if we ever get 3.5 to run correctly.

I've been running cm7 nightlies exclusively for almost a year
Now and i think i only had rebooted with a really old nightly and the GPS issue that's now fixes with a driver flash. I don't know what could cause the issues you have. He'll I TRY to break my phone to make sure it'll run all the time. Still haven't really been able to do much more than slow it down massively for a few minutes.
I love how sense 3.0 looks but not how piggishly fat it is
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I would run sense 24/7 if it had features I need
Deck's + SZ + SuperCharger script + ViperMod script.

Sense is great I love it how it feels the keyboard the widgets etc. It's just I realize our hardware is well outdated now. I think ics will run fine but a port of a ics sense ROM might be a bit much. If.It's got Sie 3.5 it might run but sense 4.0 won't run great i can just tell.
I tried aosp way back when but like sense ink if ics brags a lot of functionality and a reasons o glad aosp I might do that but till then sense it is.
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Not sure what others are doing for the EVO but as soon as ics hits ill be working on it for the EVO. Remember salvagemod was one of the first gb Rome for the EVO. We will be bringing android updates to the EVO for as long as we can. Shot even the g1 and mytouch run gb. I'm sure the EVO will keep up for a while. We hope.
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I hope ICS will support my EVO. I hope as many phones as possible get ICS love, especially considering hwa which should theoretically improve the performance of every phone it runs on.
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lithid-cm said:
Not sure what others are doing for the EVO but as soon as ics hits ill be working on it for the EVO. Remember salvagemod was one of the first gb Rome for the EVO. We will be bringing android updates to the EVO for as long as we can. Shot even the g1 and mytouch run gb. I'm sure the EVO will keep up for a while. We hope.
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I believe our phones can run the future updates for android its the sense part that I think will limit our ability to keep progressing with sense. And I appreciate the developers who constantly work on our devices and do donate to them.
All things aside Android doesn't take many system resources but sense can be a pain to get to work correctly if our devices can handle sense 4.0....
Maybe a hyrbid but my theory is sense 4.0 + 3.5 hybrid is the end of sense for us. maybe a update beyond ICS as well. maybe a 2.4-2.5

cmsjr123 said:
Sense is great I love it how it feels the keyboard the widgets etc. It's just I realize our hardware is well outdated now. I think ics will run fine but a port of a ics sense ROM might be a bit much. If.It's got Sie 3.5 it might run but sense 4.0 won't run great i can just tell.
I tried aosp way back when but like sense ink if ics brags a lot of functionality and a reasons o glad aosp I might do that but till then sense it is.
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I agree. Sense has some great widgets and integration into parts of the system like the gallery app with Facebook and flickr. I have run AOSP ROMs, some for quite a while (and I'm a bit of a flashahaulic) they run super smooth and they are quite stable now as well, but I always try different sense ROMs when I see then posted so I can try to get the best of both worlds.
Currently I'm running Salvage-Mod-Sense which is a 2.1 port from Barnacles. It's the best I've found for sense ROMs that includes some minor features from Sense 3.x (ie. lock screen, camera app) but for the most part is stock sense 2.1 which runs beautifully on my phone. This with the chop suey SBC kernel gives me great battery life and all the best of sense. So much faster than Synergy or Kingdom because it leaves out all the Sense 3.x stuff.
All this rambling on my part comes to this, I agree that ICS will be awesome on our phones, but I doubt a sense based version will be feasible. Sense 3.x already runs terrible on our devices (at least in my experience, but maybe I'm just a performance whore, lol).

The new Sense 3.5 ROMs are exciting and running smoothly as well. I believe if there is a way to remove all the bloat and strip the ROMs down these devices can go for another 2yrs with decent performance.

azteccrew5 said:
The new Sense 3.5 ROMs are exciting and running smoothly as well. I believe if there is a way to remove all the bloat and strip the ROMs down these devices can go for another 2yrs with decent performance.
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That's my feeling at this moment. Especially as devs get ICS releases to tweak.

Sense 4.0 is out??

http://mobiputing.com/2011/11/htc-sense-4-0-skin-to-run-on-top-of-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich/
This link says that the phone device, HTC VILLE will have ANDROID 4.0 along with SENSE 4.0
"Boy Genius Report has received some information about a new HTC smartphone called the HTC Ville. It’s due out next April and it will feature Google Android 4.0 and HTC Sense 4.0 software"
Woopes i kept reading, its not out but it will be sooner or laterO_O

Forget about that. if it's not Quad-Core I ain't buying it.

Damn, they have so many models... this is getting ridiculous. The only good thing about iPhone is they are not pushing new models every few days....

dalanik said:
Damn, they have so many models... this is getting ridiculous. The only good thing about iPhone is they are not pushing new models every few days....
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hurts to say this but im agreed with you, HTC should moderate its launches because they are making a "new phone" avery one or two weeks. I put "new phone" between quotes because all of the phones htc launch are almost the same, just changing the name or some phisically things, why not better launch some few phones, keep their names with every mobile company HTC share their phones and make things easier, and take their time to launch a new, but improve and different phone, instead of launching a new but same specs phones every two weeks,

Better terminology for this would be announced than out

Well, even if Sense 4.0 is coming out, it will be exactly the same as with Sense 3.0 & Sense 3.5: developers will port it to DHD but will it work really good? No.
I had both 3.0 and 3.5 on mine but it drains battery even more than 2.2. So I guess I'm gonna wait for CM9 or something like that..

petermulders said:
I had both 3.0 and 3.5 on mine but it drains battery even more than 2.2. So I guess I'm gonna wait for CM9 or something like that..
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Really? I have 3.5 on mine and find battery life much better than standard

petermulders said:
Well, even if Sense 4.0 is coming out, it will be exactly the same as with Sense 3.0 & Sense 3.5: developers will port it to DHD but will it work really good? No.
I had both 3.0 and 3.5 on mine but it drains battery even more than 2.2. So I guess I'm gonna wait for CM9 or something like that..
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I have found little discernible difference between ARHD 5.2.6 which is Sense 2.1 and RCMix3D Runny 3.3 which is 3.5 - I did notice worse battery in the older Sense 3.0 ROMs such as Unity though.

petermulders said:
Well, even if Sense 4.0 is coming out, it will be exactly the same as with Sense 3.0 & Sense 3.5: developers will port it to DHD but will it work really good? No.
I had both 3.0 and 3.5 on mine but it drains battery even more than 2.2. So I guess I'm gonna wait for CM9 or something like that..
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My battery on sense 3.5 rcmix is perfect. I can last one day.
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P00t said:
My battery on sense 3.5 rcmix is perfect. I can last one day.
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same for me, at evenings i usually have 40% or so,after ~3h internet with wlan and gps.
on arhd i had 10%or less at the same usage..but that was already better than the original rom

4.0 has a great weather widget, but you can't scroll wallpapers, haven't noticed much difference between the two besides that!

evred said:
4.0 has a great weather widget, but you can't scroll wallpapers, haven't noticed much difference between the two besides that!
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Most differences the average person will not see as they are mainly under the hood changes. The scrolling wallpaper maybe one of the needed ram hog changes. One of the biggest complaints people had with sense is the amount of ram it takes. So how do you cut down the ram? You remove some stuff. I am looking forward to the next version as someone that used Sense before it was even called sense. It has always been the best over all UI.

must be under the hood, and hidden inside the plenum chamber

Great news for me!

Approve
I approve of this. testing out the BETA build by LorD ClockaN of ICS and its pretty good. Couple of bits here and there, but its BETA so im not complaining!

andyharney said:
Forget about that. if it's not Quad-Core I ain't buying it.
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first thing comming as a quad-core is a tablet i believe lol :/ so you'll have to wait

with android 4.0 battery lasts one days with 3g and gps use

Thoughts on what might have to be stripped from ICS?

Alright everyone, time for the important question that no one wants to ask.
Since we have devs already working on ICS, we all know our hardware is a little bit dated which means it's likely we will have to remove some of the cooler features in the roms so, what do you think we might have to sacrifice to get a taste of that nice green-blue goodness?

ICS will run fine on our phone. AOSP does not take the latest hardware to run. It just has to be optimized to run on our phones. Google says our phones are to old cause they do not want to take the time to make it work on older phones.

Manufacturer bloat will have to be stripped or slimmed out an ICS/sense port will either lag horribly or sense will have to be seriously stripped or be ported back to an older less resource hungry version like 1.0/2.1 as all new ICS/sense roms will have 3.5+ which is already laggy on our hardware with out heavy mods. So don't expect to be running a full blown Ics/sense 3.5 port from a newer phone like the edge or radar. If and this is a BIG IF we are graced with one last official update on the OG don't expect sense to be upgraded they didn't upgrade it for gb, and if it does get a sense upgrade it won't be above 2.1 and it may have some of the major features removed or slimmed, such as the social integration may be downgraded and not have as many features available as it does now. Think of it like a race car if its big and heavy like a muscle car its gotta have a lot of HP to go fast if its small and heavy its gotta be stripped of all non essentials to go fast like taking all the seats but the drivers seat out and replacing as much metal with plastics and composites as possible.
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dabbill said:
ICS will run fine on our phone. AOSP does not take the latest hardware to run. It just has to be optimized to run on our phones. Google says our phones are to old cause they do not want to take the time to make it work on older phones.
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I still have my G1 (wife is using it), and I use an EVO 4G. Any chance ICS will run on the G1?

dabbill said:
ICS will run fine on our phone. AOSP does not take the latest hardware to run. It just has to be optimized to run on our phones. Google says our phones are to old cause they do not want to take the time to make it work on older phones.
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from what i understand, ICS heavily utilizes the GPU in regards to rendering images/3D, and our GPU is going to bottleneck ICS to the point where it is laggy. someone correct me if i'm wrong.

I loaded the SDK dumb ICS rom on the evo4g going through the menus and swiping the screens ran just fine. So i would have to say once all the drivers get loaded and the rom tweaked it will be the same as running GB.

dabbill said:
ICS will run fine on our phone. AOSP does not take the latest hardware to run. It just has to be optimized to run on our phones. Google says our phones are to old cause they do not want to take the time to make it work on older phones.
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Google has nothing to do with releasing OS updates for our phones. That is 100% up the the phone manufacturers, so don't blame google.

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Manufacturer bloat will have to be stripped or slimmed out an ICS/sense port will either lag horribly or sense will have to be seriously stripped or be ported back to an older less resource hungry version like 1.0/2.1 as all new ICS/sense roms will have 3.5+ which is already laggy on our hardware with out heavy mods. So don't expect to be running a full blown Ics/sense 3.5 port from a newer phone like the edge or radar. If and this is a BIG IF we are graced with one last official update on the OG don't expect sense to be upgraded they didn't upgrade it for gb, and if it does get a sense upgrade it won't be above 2.1 and it may have some of the major features removed or slimmed, such as the social integration may be downgraded and not have as many features available as it does now. Think of it like a race car if its big and heavy like a muscle car its gotta have a lot of HP to go fast if its small and heavy its gotta be stripped of all non essentials to go fast like taking all the seats but the drivers seat out and replacing as much metal with plastics and composites as possible.
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The evo design is only a single core running 1.2, I would say there's a fair chance we can get a pretty good sense port from it.

nothing will need to be stripped. ASOP roms are tiny compared to Sense. Google already said that if your phone can run GB, It can run ICS. The only reason we won't get a official update is because HTC has moved on to newer phones and supporting us makes no money.

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from what i understand, ICS heavily utilizes the GPU in regards to rendering images/3D, and our GPU is going to bottleneck ICS to the point where it is laggy. someone correct me if i'm wrong.
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Here to happily correct you.
Actually, rather than ICS "heavily utilizing the GPU to bottleneck the EVO", it's the reverse. Android 1.0 - 2.3.7 all currently use software acceleration. This means the CPU has to pull double duty: It has to run the OS in the background, and render everything you see in the OS.
(Games and other applications, of course, use the GPU if designed to do so.)
The departure now is that ICS uses the GPU to leverage all of the UI, taking that strain off of the GPU. The result should actually be that the EVO runs better than ever, with a slicker, smoother UI to result, and better performance from the OS in general.
Also, all of that business about having to strip-out components for the EVO is nonsense. The EVO has a 1GB ROM; it has more than enough room for ICS in it's entirety, and all the horsepower necessary to make it run really well.

It seems like in theory the og evolution should get a little better battery life too since the workload will be split instead of all dependant on the CPU. The clockspeeds should have less full throttle time than previous versions right?
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Google has nothing to do with releasing OS updates for our phones. That is 100% up the the phone manufacturers, so don't blame google.
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I wasnt blaming google. I just ment google is not going to take the time and optimize AOSP for every phone out there. Its up to phone manufacture and other devs to do that.

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Google has nothing to do with releasing OS updates for our phones. That is 100% up the the phone manufacturers, so don't blame google.
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Not true for Nexus devices, and I think dabbill was referring to their statement about the Nexus One being too old for an ICS update.
If Wikipedia is accurate, the N1 only has 512MB of storage, while the Evo has 1GB of storage. On the Evo at least that 1GB is split between system, data, and cache partitions. If the N1's 512MB number is accurate and similarly is a total amount for all three partitions, than their statement would make sense for the N1. Our 1GB total should be enough. CM7 only uses 40% of the system partition on the Evo.

Will KitKat give new life to HD2?

KitKat just officially released. It is specially optimized for older devices with 512MB RAM, just like our HD2.
http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html
That sounds like an extremely good news, maybe it's time for me to start using my HD2 again.

Considering one of the main pushes for kitkat is that it is built for devices with 512mb of ram, I think it could be very good for the HD2

I seriously hope HD2 development will be revived by KitKat.
HD2 development is going slower and slower as the day goes by...

andyjyneo said:
I seriously hope HD2 development will be revived by KitKat.
HD2 development is going slower and slower as the day goes by...
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Maybe because its over 4 and a half years old...

andyjyneo said:
I seriously hope HD2 development will be revived by KitKat.
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really hope so..

walter79 said:
2.6.35 build. you can try tytungs build too.
Next goal Android 4.4 - KitKat
repo sync runing since 30 min.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46983612&postcount=195

I too hope that somebody brings stable 4.4 onto the HTC HD2 as that will make it much more usable than current ported 4.3 version.
I am still using my HTC HD2 full time simply because no other device can do what it can do.
It really is an epic device and if we can bring 4.4 with only 512 MB RAM requirement then it will really fly.

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Maybe because its over 4 and a half years old...
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rubbish statement tbh the phone is still by far top spec compared to the cheap rubbish that cell operators offer on new deals
compared to a sg2 or htc one v its still good value
dam i hope some devs port it over as we can have both nand and sd builds now any ways
im sure its a lighter build anyway evin if its not there is s shed load of turd that can be trimmed to lighting the rom

hopefully its available soon.

The new KitKat seems to be the perfect OS (according to the info) and I hope it will be ported to the HD2 soon

I think some dude is working on it.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/google_debuts_art_in_kitkat_aims_to_change_android-news-7143.php
Not only is KitKat optimized for 512 MB RAM devices like the HD2, it also gets rid of the VM so the HD2 should fly with 4.4 !
Hope somebody is working on this as I can't wait to test it out.
It really won't be laggy, I hope, due to so many optimizations in 4.4 for slower / older phones.

yea i would really like too, to use the HD2 again. So I do really hope someone will make a stable 4.4 rom for it

The issue with the hd2 and all the other snapdragon s1 devices is that the adreno 200 is awful. It can't handle the gpu acceleration of ICS and newer at all. Compare the performance of a nexus one to a nexus s on an ICS or jellybean rom. The difference is gigantic.

bulanula said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/google_debuts_art_in_kitkat_aims_to_change_android-news-7143.php
Not only is KitKat optimized for 512 MB RAM devices like the HD2, it also gets rid of the VM so the HD2 should fly with 4.4 !
Hope somebody is working on this as I can't wait to test it out.
It really won't be laggy, I hope, due to so many optimizations in 4.4 for slower / older phones.
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I'm a bit disappointed about the KitKat. I managed to get it booting on my hTC Incredible S: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519414, and it doesn't as fast as I thought. I have to say, it's a bit laggy. I hope, it'll get better if I put some optimalizations in, but the first experiences aren't so good.

blackhand1001 said:
The issue with the hd2 and all the other snapdragon s1 devices is that the adreno 200 is awful. It can't handle the gpu acceleration of ICS and newer at all. Compare the performance of a nexus one to a nexus s on an ICS or jellybean rom. The difference is gigantic.
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Well, I don't use apps that need GPU acceleration so that is not a big problem. Or, turn off all animations on JB interface.
szezso said:
I'm a bit disappointed about the KitKat. I managed to get it booting on my hTC Incredible S: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519414, and it doesn't as fast as I thought. I have to say, it's a bit laggy. I hope, it'll get better if I put some optimalizations in, but the first experiences aren't so good.
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Well, it still has to be faster than JB, I bet ! It is now RAM optimized and gets rid of the virtual machine so that means that old devices like our HTC HD2 with slow CPU and little RAM will work even smoother now.
The overall GUI may still not be that smooth due to Adreno 200 but individual apps should theoretically run much smoother than before like browser or office or other low resource apps.
JB is nice but KitKat will be even better, if somebody makes a stable 4.4 CM11 rom for Leo !

Check this out, runs really good.

It will give a new life for you phone

kk works great on HD2

lukes91 said:
kk works great on HD2
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A how-to for dummies tutorial would be great?