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[Q] Sprint Voice & SMS Network DOWN (WI) !!

Well its back up right now (i think) i dont have any one to call right now but the network was down until 20:45~20:50 CST in SE WI. my friend called me on a land-line and told me he was trying to call me. The data on my phone worked the hole time. But 99.9% of out going calls failed and 100% incoming calls failed 100% SMS fail!!!!! I did get two calls to go threw to a AT&T land-line
NOW HEARS THE PROBLEM (SPRINT CAN YOU HEAR ME!) why cant Sprint have emailed us all i understand ith happens and stuff brakes & goes down BUT WHY THE HELL couldn't they of EMAILED us all to let us know that people would not be able to get a hold of us with are SPRINT PHONES!!!!!!
Check the "No data 3G" & the other problem you had on the poll if your data & voice/sms was down.
So lets hears it how many people had no Voice/SMS today? And it would be nice to put your State/City or the Area your in.
Thanks i just kinda want to see the numbers
I'm so ready to go back to Verizon 6 years with them & never a problem (but i REALLY like my Epic :-/ )

http://community.sprint.com/baw/thr...95.app6jive2?start=15&tstart=0&reqsorting=dec
Channel 4 WTMJ in Milwaukee
http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/107618403.html

WOW i guess theirs no one on hear from Wisconsin, Any how i got a free mouth from them They still suck and i am pissed they did not even email us about it and i may still just dump them and go with. U.S. Cell or back to Verizon

Sorry for your troubles. It's odd, even in the nationwide Sprint outages, I never had any issues. I must be in the one area where things don't break.
EDIT: Not in WI, just sayin'.

k0nane said:
Sorry for your troubles. It's odd, even in the nationwide Sprint outages, I never had any issues. I must be in the one area where things don't break.
EDIT: Not in WI, just sayin'.
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Well most of the time all the traffic works grate at your Location lol

zman519 said:
Well most of the time all the traffic works grate at your Location lol
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I don't follow.

127.0.0.1 loopback ;-)

Roam Control is the fix. Force your phone off the sprint network.

Humm I would have got the app if I had known about it on Friday :-/ but now that its back up idk if I really need it.
So I take it your a fan of the app, has it saved ur phone calls when sprint went down before?

I use roam control while I am at work since I only get 1 bar to nothing while there if I am on sprint but if I switch to roaming I have full signal. Also helps out a lot with battery too. If I leave it on auto I leave work with 20% left and that's with out using my phone. If I switch to roaming I usually leave with a lot more left.
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Cool sounds like that would help my battery when my ohone is sitting on my main PC desk. Its always going back andforth. I know there's. A ton of USB ports there but why plug it in every time iam using my computer.
P.S. its the $3.99 app in the markit ?

I had no issues at all (or any other time, really, except maybe once, and that issue was specific to the Hero). I'm not in SE WI, I'm up near Green Bay. Though looking at the link to the Sprint site it looks like I would have been affected as well. But I had no issues at all. And frankly, even if it was down, I didn't notice.
And I don't really see what you're getting so upset about to be honest. Yeah, it sucks when stuff goes down, but I think the "I"M GOING BACK TO VERIZON" statement was a little extreme. Have you had other problems with Sprint? All in all, it was down for what, 10 minutes? That's nothing. The longest I ever had an issue was back when I still used the stock ROM on my hero, and MMS wasn't working for a few weeks. Honestly, though, what good would them sending an email have done? That late in the evening, most people are eating, or out doing whatever (bars, partying, etc), not checking their email, so by the time most people got the email, the issue would already have been resolved. And they did put out a tweet from @sprint, their official account : http://twitter.com/sprint. Sure, it's not really a channel most people follow, and probably one of the last places people would expect to look, but the point is that they acknowledged the issue. And it looks like the whole 10 minutes you were affected was actually far less than others, I read some users stating that the outage lasted all day.
Basically, what I'm saying is that I've had a solid experience with Sprint the last 3 years or so, I'm not going to switch carriers just because of something like this. They've always been super nice about giving me credits for all sorts of things, ringtones/games that I couldn't transfer from one phone to another, and a few other issues. I feel like their customer service has always been top notch for me, and one day of not being able to talk/text is really no big deal for me.

zman519 said:
Cool sounds like that would help my battery when my ohone is sitting on my main PC desk. Its always going back andforth. I know there's. A ton of USB ports there but why plug it in every time iam using my computer.
P.S. its the $3.99 app in the markit ?
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Yeah it is the one in the market for $3.99. Just make sure you plan is set up for roaming otherwise you might end up with charges you didnt plan on. Especially when it comes to data roaming.

SirRipo said:
I had no issues at all (or any other time, really, except maybe once, and that issue was specific to the Hero). I'm not in SE WI, I'm up near Green Bay. Though looking at the link to the Sprint site it looks like I would have been affected as well. But I had no issues at all. And frankly, even if it was down, I didn't notice.
And I don't really see what you're getting so upset about to be honest. Yeah, it sucks when stuff goes down, but I think the "I"M GOING BACK TO VERIZON" statement was a little extreme. Have you had other problems with Sprint? All in all, it was down for what, 10 minutes? That's nothing. The longest I ever had an issue was back when I still used the stock ROM on my hero, and MMS wasn't working for a few weeks. Honestly, though, what good would them sending an email have done? That late in the evening, most people are eating, or out doing whatever (bars, partying, etc), not checking their email, so by the time most people got the email, the issue would already have been resolved. And they did put out a tweet from @sprint, their official account : http://twitter.com/sprint. Sure, it's not really a channel most people follow, and probably one of the last places people would expect to look, but the point is that they acknowledged the issue. And it looks like the whole 10 minutes you were affected was actually far less than others, I read some users stating that the outage lasted all day.
Basically, what I'm saying is that I've had a solid experience with Sprint the last 3 years or so, I'm not going to switch carriers just because of something like this. They've always been super nice about giving me credits for all sorts of things, ringtones/games that I couldn't transfer from one phone to another, and a few other issues. I feel like their customer service has always been top notch for me, and one day of not being able to talk/text is really no big deal for me.
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I see your points, But it was down for hours on a Friday NOT 10 minutes & the 3G was still up so i would have seen said email. This has not been Totally fixed yet Visual Voicemail is down right now. You can leave me a vmail & i will get it if i dial 1 on the phone but theirs no notification that you have x number of vmails
So if your phone is having voice mail problems its most likely NOT your phone and its still sprint having problems. One sprint tech told me it was the hole U.S. and another tech said it was still from Fridays (SE WI) problem & that they are still working to fix it
SirRipo your right its not really getting that upset about its just a phone

For me I have everything to complain about when it comes to Sprint service. This outage that just happened on friday night really set me over the top. The only thing that I'm happy about is the fact that it affected lots of people and not just people in my "neighborhood". I live in South Milwaukee, WI and there is a tower somewhere near my house that FAILS at least 3 to 4 times a year. And when it fails I'm not saying hours of service lost, I'm talking DAYS!!! Every time it happens I call Sprint and they do a test on the towers in my area and I hear the same reply out of their mouths when they figure out the problem, they say, "wow, now that's not a good thing" Well if it's not a good thing then why does it continue to happen every 3 months or so. And the sucky thing about it is the fact it usually happens for the entire weekend. At first I thought that was happening all over again, but this issue was different and affected lots of people. So I guess my question is if this happens again, which I know it will from the track record, do you think I would be able to opt out of my contract without having to pay a termination fee? Sprint says that it's up to the customer service rep that handles my termination of service call whether or not I would be charged a fee or not. The way I see it is if the service continues to fail where I live for days on end why should I have to pay a fee? I know that T-Mobile has 4G up and running here in Milwaukee with the HSPA+ and Sprint doesn't have 4G here at all, and who knows now long it's going to take them to get it. Sprint in my area either works, and works very well, or it's just not there at all, there is no in between.

jaygraffix Thats BS!
i was with sprint years back & i was never happy with them then but i thought that maybe things have changed. I have some time in my 30 days left to dump there ass, I just thought the price was right. (and i love the Epic) But after this BS and hearing jaygraffix problems in a city just a little south of me that i'am in all the time i just may have to move on to there competition.
The fact is sprint nextel is a multi billion dollar corporation and its not going to hit there bottom line to completely replace the tower by jaygraffix house! And i should not have to talk with 6 sprint reps about the VVM not working today & have the finale rep offer me a hole $8.00 credit when the Tech support rep i was talking to before OFFERED ME $25.00 WTF and because i wanted to talk with a CS manager (and did) he only gives me the $8 WTF! less than the guy i was talking to before him! NOW TELL ME YOU WOULD NOT BE PISSED AFTER THAT HAPPENED TO YOU
Maybe if every one in SE WI would dump them all on the same day they would take a hint! (fees & all be DAMED) When i started this tread i was really hoping to see 1000's of hits on the poll but i guess there are just not that many people on this forum from around my area. I Totally see now why Verizon costs what it does.

What would it take to make you happy?

I've noticed everybody is very unhappy lately here in this great place most of us spend the majority of our day. So, let's talk.... what would make you happy? (REALISTICALLY)
What phone? What prices? What features on a phone? What features on a ROM? Etc.... Be as detailed as possible and keep it realistic!
Me? I would like a nice phone, doesn't have to be dual-core, that's just e-boner talk right now. 1.2Ghz+, 4.3'' screen, Gingerbread, full HD recording, hardware acceleration, a nice front camera with flash and some of the features from MIUI like visitor mode and a theme gallery. Oh yeah... and a ****ing trackball.

Honestly?! I just want my old discount and premier policies back and no $10 tax on non-4G phones. Basically, I want to go back to how things were not too long ago. I was really happy then.
I am patient enough for a new device. The EVO is making the wait quite enjoyable.

akarol said:
Honestly?! I just want my old discount and premier policies back and no $10 tax on non-4G phones. Basically, I want to go back to how things were not too long ago. I was really happy then.
I am patient enough for a new device. The EVO is making the wait quite enjoyable.
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I wish, but higher speeds mean more money, just like home internet, cable, gas consumption, pretty much anything on earth. The more it is, the more it costs.

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DirtyShroomz said:
I wish, but higher speeds mean more money, just like home internet, cable, gas consumption, pretty much anything on earth. The more it is, the more it costs.
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Quality also relates to money, and nobody can argue that Sprint is lacking. 4G so far has been a flop with Sprint. Coverage is lacking. And lately their hardware is on a downward spiral. They should be desperate... and with desperation, consumers should rule!

akarol said:
Honestly?! I just want my old discount and premier policies back and no $10 tax on non-4G phones. Basically, I want to go back to how things were not too long ago. I was really happy then.
I am patient enough for a new device. The EVO is making the wait quite enjoyable.
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I concur. +1
PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.

Simply put;
Evo (2) successor
Dualcore
4G
SLCD
4-4.5" screen
Kickstand
And that's it.
I get the folks hating on the mandatory $10 charge ... and the status changes ...
Plans, as they are - even with the $10 fee either way, are good with me. Seem to be in the minority that actually find this a plus. Feel like people want to complain just for the sake of complaining. The status hype, I get that one. That sucks. Maybe if they could do it so that if you spent a year with a "4G" phone than after said year was done, you could qualify for that upgrade everyone wants. The others have to deal. Sprint, in that regard, would need to straighten some ish up ... but that might go a ways for some. Regardless, plans seem to not be that bad IMO and I'd be happy / and will be happy with them. I don't be d over for anyone, mind you. Thankfully I'm not getting "raped" like some seem to think they are.

Good thread!
I'd like my yearly upgrades back, and my student discount to be applied to all lines again, not just the first two...But, REALISTICALLY, all it would take to make me happy would be non-suckass 200kbps down 3G speeds and it'd be nice if I actually received calls, not just got random voicemails hours later...it makes running a business fairly hard.
The past 3 months I've never seen over 200kbps down (except when I was in grand rapids, mi, then I got 2.3mbps down). The thing that gets me is, here locally, it's 200kbps down, but almost always at least 1mbps up, sometimes 1.5. I don't get it. It really pisses me off. Also, at times, some towers have 0 ZERO download, but upload works perfectly fine.
To summarize:
- At least 600kbps down on 3G
- Actually get phone calls, not just random voicemails
Perks to keep me around:
- Yearly upgrades (again)
- Student discount on 3rd+ lines
- Better 4G service (2 bars would be nice)
- No need for an airave at my house and office
I'm perfectly happy with my EVO, but will be switching back to att ASAP.

hmm, for me it would be.
preferably dual core (I truly believe this would make the UI function much much more smoothly)
candy bar phone with similar screen size to the evo and a nicer looking screen
unlockable bootloader with a full compliment of fastboot commands (or at least an engineering leak)
no fps cap
a 3D screen would be nice if they are far along enough to be worth it
more internal memory
Headphone jack
And of course updates...
4G, a replaceable battery and a sd card are all things that it must have before I even consider switching to it. The old sprint premier perks would also be nice since I've had the same phone number with sprint for over a decade yet they say I've only been a customer for something like 6 years
edit: ohh yeah, a rich blonde to go along with it would make me happy as well

The one thing that would make the Evo perfect would be a way to get the dust out from under the screen.

What would it take to make me happy? All the complainers to leave.
Sprint is working on their 4g coverage, patience is a virtue.
Sprint announced the Evo at CTIA, how about waiting for the next CTIA before freaking out like kids who don't think they're getting a bike for xmas, patience is a virtue.
The $10/month is probably what's funding more 4g in more areas more quickly. Charging it to non-4g phones is NONE OF OUR CONCERN, WE HAVE A 4G PHONE! Soon, it'll be everywhere, patience is a virtue.
People to understand that economies change and sometimes that doesn't suit our best interests. If you've got the money to jump **** and buy every brand new device that comes out on the market, then you're too rich for me to give a damn about your opinions. Open up an "I hate Sprint" forum and get the hell outta here. Some of us are getting sick of all this. PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE!

Being able to go pickup my Thunderbolt today would make me happy.

DirtyShroomz said:
Me? I would like a nice phone, doesn't have to be dual-core, that's just e-boner talk right now. 1.2Ghz+, 4.3'' screen, Gingerbread, full HD recording, hardware acceleration, a nice front camera with flash and some of the features from MIUI like visitor mode and a theme gallery. Oh yeah... and a ****ing trackball.
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1. The above, plus plain vanilla android, with root access out of the box, and direct updates from Google.
2. My premier status restored. I am OK with not giving new customers the old perks, but they shouldn't be taken away from existing customers, kind of like having a grandfathered plan.
These two things would make me a very happy long-time customer. (Been with Sprint since '98, but only 7 years consecutive. Actually, I've never used another provider...I just didn't have a cell for 3 years).

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948413
Id be happy if this rumored EVO 2 was true. That would pretty much take a huge dump on the Atrix, thunderbolt, bionic and every other phone that has been announced so far. That chipset gpu combo would be a techies wet dream literally. Just let it be true....we'll soon find out.

To be perfectly honest I am content with my Evo. I'm not really interested in what they are coming out with next being that I just got my Evo 2 months ago. My Hero held me over as long as it could and now the Evo will do the same. A few things I am not too happy about include the $10 extra premium for internet usage. I have never used enough data to justify paying extra. Maybe they should just charge the people who are always exceeding the data cap. I wouldn't mind paying it if I actually got respectable speeds and used it excessively. According to Sprint I am in an area with excellent coverage however never have a full signal. And like everyone else I would like the 1 year upgrades back.
And like ZeroGI, I want a forum specifically for all the one liner threads and complainers. I'm tired of 50 threads of bull**** before I can even get to the stuff I'm looking for. IMHO threads should need to be approved before they are posted.

if i could get 1 thing .. that will make me feel better about all the changes and charges.
if the data speeds would be closer to what is marketd. coverage, consistancy, and penetration.
3G higher than 1mb
4G higher than 5mb
currently it is **** slow for both .. and you are lucky if you can get 4G at all (in a 4G area).
I think if the Data speeds and coverage was better, then all the other crap is understandable and acceptable.
Phones will come out.. not a big concern like others here.
Price... inflation is a *****.. but what u going to do?

Dan330 said:
if i could get 1 thing .. that will make me feel better about all the changes and charges.
if the data speeds would be closer to what is marketd. coverage, consistancy, and penetration.
3G higher than 1mb
4G higher than 5mb
currently it is **** slow for both .. and you are lucky if you can get 4G at all (in a 4G area).
I think if the Data speeds and coverage was better, then all the other crap is understandable and acceptable.
Phones will come out.. not a big concern like others here.
Price... inflation is a *****.. but what u going to do?
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That's how I feel, and like I mentioned I wouldn't mind paying the extra prices for data if it was actually usable. I don't get 4G yet, hopefully soon. I find myself using WIFI from my home and various other locations while I'm out and about. I honestly have only used 306,000KB in my last month of service because it's so damn slow. I can't even tether because it's so slow.

I just don't get all the "stop the complaining" stuff. We pay good money to Sprint for our access to their network. Their is plenty of exciting stuff coming out for Android on the other three major carriers. Leaked and confirmed. Have you seen one leak regarding Sprint? Sure, I realize they may offer up something soon but where is the buzz to keep you engaged? They certainly created buzz with their "Industry First" announcement then they threw out a Tonka toy. Our provider of choice NEEDS to hear that we are informed customers who won't stand for BS like that and if nothing enticing is coming down the chute they are going to have a high turnover. Plain and simple.

I'd like my 3G speeds back. I use to be able to hit 1.6 Mbps going down on 3G with no problems just a few months ago. Now, I'm lucky to get 25% of that regardless of where I am or what time it is.
Maybe Sprint should upgrade their existing infrastructure to handle all the new customers they have gotten instead of spending so much money on 4G, Nascar, and paying David Blaine to show up at the release of that atrocious Kyocera phone.

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I just don't get all the "stop the complaining" stuff. We pay good money to Sprint for our access to their network. Their is plenty of exciting stuff coming out for Android on the other three major carriers. Leaked and confirmed. Have you seen one leak regarding Sprint? Sure, I realize they may offer up something soon but where is the buzz to keep you engaged? They certainly created buzz with their "Industry First" announcement then they threw out a Tonka toy. Our provider of choice NEEDS to hear that we are informed customers who won't stand for BS like that and if nothing enticing is coming down the chute they are going to have a high turnover. Plain and simple.
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Very commendable that you as well as others want to get the point across to Sprint however this isn't a Sprint complaint forum. If people want to tell Sprint how they feel they should write letters directly to them. Everyone on these forums has at least one gripe about our beloved network of choice and if we all started a thread to express those complaints that's all this forum would consist of.

At&t

At&t sent me a message that i HAVE to upgrade to their 2.2 is this actually important?
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AriaUSer_ said:
At&t sent me a message that i HAVE to upgrade to their 2.2 is this actually important?
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Perhaps the message you received today is different from the one I got. The one I got didn't say I had to flash the update, it just implied as much by emphasizing what an "important" update this is. In any event, it's all a load of crap. The update is not required (it's your device; no one can make you flash a ROM that you don't want to install), and be advised that if you do flash it you won't be able to root. In fact, you'll lose root if you have it and you won't be able to get it back. AT&T can bite me.

This is what the txt message said:
AT&T Free Msg: An important software update is available for your HTC Aria. To update to Android 2.2, connect to http://www.htc.com/us/support/aria-att/downloads/ and follow the instructions.
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It is as Buck said, it is an optional suggestion.

Ok thanks guys I guess mines different they also said I need to install software to my phone
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I got one this afternoon.
I hate at and t

Im pretty sure we all got that same message. You dont HAVE to upgrade (or downgrade for those of us on 2.3 already ). Just delete the message and go on with your lives as usual.

AriaUSer_ said:
Ok thanks guys I guess mines different they also said I need to install software to my phone
AT&T Free Msg: An important software update is available for your HTC Aria. To update to Android 2.2, connect to http://www.htc.com/us/support/aria-att/downloads/ and follow the instructions.
This is what I received. In any event, disregard it.
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yah, i got the same message too. DELETE
told my friends also to disregard. Damn ATT trying to take control

I looked at the message as I was heading into the bank, laughed because I was already on 2.2 (Liberated FR008) and deleted the message.
Coming to find out, it was ironic that I received the message the same day AT&T started clamping down on iPhone users for tethering, since I had to use the hotspot function on an unlimited data plan the weekend before due to a fried cable modem in the house.

Deleted message. It was also on the day that I read somewhere that AT&T is buying out T Mobile. Another bad sign...The less competitors to AT&T = Higher pricing, less stability, poorer customer service and pretty much an all around awful experience..
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Yeah, like everyone has said don't be fooled into this update.
A friend of mine went to att and bought an android, but they helpfully updated the device before giving it to him. He promptly asked for a virgin device and they did so.
They will sell you what you want... well mostly. Heh
"Do you mind if I turn up the AC?"

So, hypothetically, say I'm an idiot
and updated with ATT before reading this forum post about how I won't be able to root/mod. Any estimates on how long it will take before 2.2 is rooted for the Aria? I now realize a few of the very simple things HTC/ATT haven't changed that would have helped a lot in simple day to day stuff, like light sensor control (why do those damn buttons at the bottom have to be so bright at night), and removing ATT bloatware.

Amen 2 that simplemobile is the bomb 60$ unlimited an 4g ooh nice fucc tmo an at&t
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Deleted message. It was also on the day that I read somewhere that AT&T is buying out T Mobile. Another bad sign...The less competitors to AT&T = Higher pricing, less stability, poorer customer service and pretty much an all around awful experience..
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I never understood the frustration or hate over any provider honestly.
AT&T/HTC finally coming around with their 2.2, which is great for folks who don't want to do what a lot of us do to the phone.
For the rest of us, delete/ignore the message. Nobody is forcing you to take 2.2. Situation resolved.
ATT isn't the bane of wireless communications. Fact is, no single provider out there is the end-all be-all godsend for everyone, because it's a volatile industry and everyone's wants/perceptions/experiences are different.
Many smaller networks piggyback/lease frequency/bands/bandwidth from the same towers we're all on. As such you're not going to see hellish lag or vastly deposed quality. Their network priority levels -might- change a bit, but they're not taking over the bandwidth. They were already on the same highway with us, just in a different lane.
If it's like any buyout, the inducted customers will be offered a package to stick with their grandfathered plan (if it has benefits over the company's standard plans), and will probably also keep the same limitations as before.
Example, if TMO had no service or roaming service in City A but ATT has service there, they won't get the service because of the grandfathered plan unless they go with a full ATT plan. Even though the whole time the only difference was a network flag somewhere saying that this person's account isn't authorized to use the tower in that city.
That's really what a lot of it boils down to most of the time.
SimpleMobile might work for someone, VZN might work for another.. etc.
Customer Service is always going to vary no matter what, that's based on expectations/experience. If you like the outcome you love the service, if not they suck. So take that out of the equation. Most of the big boys have similar plans right now, and have been playing the technology game.
Until someone decides to suddenly get fruity with plan prices or has some epic technology gamepiece to play.. it's going to remain mostly the same across the board.
We're all simply dollars and cents. We're a number in a database which is then multiplied by how much they pull from us annually, so they can forecast their own income. We pissed someone off, boo hoo, we have a few million other customers.
I'm not PRO ATT either. I help friends find what works for them. I give them advice based on what their needs/wants are. I used to be Bell South, then it went Cingular, now it's AT&T--and I've kept my original plan from day one because it's better than what any other provider has right now. Last I checked, 2 years ago, I'm one of two people in the entire ATT network with that particular plan. It works for me.
Good hunting to everyone out there, and enjoy the technoloigy.

I have been a long term customer of att and have for the most part been happy. However, it is frustrating that they charge for every feature versus other carriers who give it for free or cheaper.
I think for the most part there are good reasons why people bash the company. Maybe they should switch carriers if it bothers them enough, I'm not sure. However, my minor compliants do not warrant a switch.
Btw, a phone is now more than a voice communication device and to put artificial restrictions in software in my mind is absurd.
I'm happy for you that you have a great plan, but as you know the curent plans are poor in comparison. People are allowed to complain. Let them.
"Do you mind if I turn up the AC?"

OJsakila said:
Deleted message. It was also on the day that I read somewhere that AT&T is buying out T Mobile. Another bad sign...The less competitors to AT&T = Higher pricing, less stability, poorer customer service and pretty much an all around awful experience..
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Doesn't this mean we get better signal ?

vicmora5 said:
Doesn't this mean we get better signal ?
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No. They use/share/pay for the same towers.
actually, as a tmobile customer you might have more access or something but, honestly, I really dont know..lol

TheFurnace said:
I have been a long term customer of att and have for the most part been happy. However, it is frustrating that they charge for every feature versus other carriers who give it for free or cheaper.
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I haven't compared their plans since summer, and at that point I'd compared their plans with VZN and Sprint, for someone else. At that time all 3 companies had the exact same plan offerings down to the feature and penny. Only difference was how each one billed data.
For this person, data wasn't an issue anyhow because they wanted a "regular" phone. So it came down to what phone they wanted, and they went VZN because ATT's regular phone selection blows whale chunks.
We didn't look at other smaller or competing providers because they didn't offer the same overall coverage as the big 3 did.
So what I'm saying is, I dunno what's out there now, but it seems the big 3 have similar plans as each other every time I look. Smaller competitors may have better options/plans/all-inclusive-stuff but again, you have to make sure it works for you.
And bear in mind one reason TMO scuttled the ship is because they were losing income fast.
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I think for the most part there are good reasons why people bash the company. Maybe they should switch carriers if it bothers them enough, I'm not sure. However, my minor compliants do not warrant a switch.
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Totally agree! "your mileage may vary", everyone's experience will be different. SprintPCS pissed me off years ago, one reason I was glad to drop them. They were undergoing heavy technical issues with their towers in our area, but because of how they had the phone programmed, even though it could roam digitally it didn't--they set it up to use their service only if we were near their signal.
Couldn't even dial 911 at one point, and I showed this to the techs. They tried with their phones.. same thing. The white-washed faces and lack of response said it all.
Prior to their working on the towers I dropped calls more frequently than I took steps walking. One time when I dropped my phone, the antenna broke off and part of the PCB was actually damaged--and it got a better signal.
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Btw, a phone is now more than a voice communication device and to put artificial restrictions in software in my mind is absurd.
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Totally agree! They've got their reasons though. They're there to stay in business, we're here to make use of their service. It's a matter of keeping each-other happy.
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I'm happy for you that you have a great plan, but as you know the curent plans are poor in comparison. People are allowed to complain. Let them.
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I didn't mean to come off as a jerk and hope nobody took it as such. I'm a huge supporter of getting your complaints out there and letting people know how your experience went.
I just hate it when I see endless complaints and it seems like none of it is fruitful. If you complain, that's good! Just try and make it count. Do more than complain, explain your situation so others can make informed decisions about which carrier to go to. Things like "XYZ Carrier SUCKS they should burn to the ground!" doesn't help anyone.
Not saying anyone here has done that! I just saw a stream of "random hate for various reasons" starting to come out, like I do everywhere, and wanted to encourage folks to try and make it count. And to understand how things operate a little bit better.
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I haven't compared their plans since summer, and at that point I'd compared their plans with VZN and Sprint, for someone else. At that time all 3 companies had the exact same plan offerings down to the feature and penny. Only difference was how each one billed data.
For this person, data wasn't an issue anyhow because they wanted a "regular" phone. So it came down to what phone they wanted, and they went VZN because ATT's regular phone selection blows whale chunks.
We didn't look at other smaller or competing providers because they didn't offer the same overall coverage as the big 3 did.
So what I'm saying is, I dunno what's out there now, but it seems the big 3 have similar plans as each other every time I look. Smaller competitors may have better options/plans/all-inclusive-stuff but again, you have to make sure it works for you.
And bear in mind one reason TMO scuttled the ship is because they were losing income fast.
Totally agree! "your mileage may vary", everyone's experience will be different. SprintPCS pissed me off years ago, one reason I was glad to drop them. They were undergoing heavy technical issues with their towers in our area, but because of how they had the phone programmed, even though it could roam digitally it didn't--they set it up to use their service only if we were near their signal.
Couldn't even dial 911 at one point, and I showed this to the techs. They tried with their phones.. same thing. The white-washed faces and lack of response said it all.
Prior to their working on the towers I dropped calls more frequently than I took steps walking. One time when I dropped my phone, the antenna broke off and part of the PCB was actually damaged--and it got a better signal.
Totally agree! They've got their reasons though. They're there to stay in business, we're here to make use of their service. It's a matter of keeping each-other happy.
I didn't mean to come off as a jerk and hope nobody took it as such. I'm a huge supporter of getting your complaints out there and letting people know how your experience went.
I just hate it when I see endless complaints and it seems like none of it is fruitful. If you complain, that's good! Just try and make it count. Do more than complain, explain your situation so others can make informed decisions about which carrier to go to. Things like "XYZ Carrier SUCKS they should burn to the ground!" doesn't help anyone.
Not saying anyone here has done that! I just saw a stream of "random hate for various reasons" starting to come out, like I do everywhere, and wanted to encourage folks to try and make it count. And to understand how things operate a little bit better.
Happy hacking everyone
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Ah, then we definitely agree. Thanks for clarifying your point. I understand completely. Cheers!
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Has anyone been caught / harassed by atnt for tethering or portable hotspot? I very rarely use these but have recently heard of them cracking down.
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Read -> Sprint changing a few things... again.

Getting rid of the "premier customer", returns go from 30 to 14 days, upgrade moves from 22 to 20 months BUT upgrade fee goes from 18 to 36..... all these changes are probly because of the new iphone too.... f*ck sprint and the rest of em.
phandroid.com/2011/09/15/sprint-mak...ram-cuts-back-returnexchange-policy-and-more/

that was announced a month ago lol

its for whoever doesnt know.
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Agreed! F**k Sprint!

go away why did u have to bump this thread just to say that.
and obviously u didnt even read this thread because at no point was anyone bashing sprint witch means this was an epic fail for you.

Bierce22 said:
go away why did u have to bump this thread just to say that.
and obviously u didnt even read this thread because at no point was anyone bashing sprint witch means this was an epic fail for you.
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Check again Bierce:
The op said the same thing the Guy b4 u did....."F-sprint" so he did read the thread.
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i like sprint (for now), dont get me wrong. but they are slowly hiking prices and axing services. they just got rid of unlimited 4g hotspot.... i think its only a matter of time before unlimited data is a thing of the past.

youdug said:
i like sprint (for now), dont get me wrong. but they are slowly hiking prices and axing services. they just got rid of unlimited 4g hotspot.... i think its only a matter of time before unlimited data is a thing of the past.
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I'm not too sure about that. Mainly because every commercial i see for them is the
"We are sprint, we are truly unlimited" IMHO that's the only thing sprint has going for them, until the new iPhone comes out.

Sprint is still better than the alternatives though. Good customer service, awesome phones, etc. Everyone else has already done all this junk and gone to tiered plans so I'm happy that Sprint has kept their service as is for so long
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rubyknight said:
Sprint is still better than the alternatives though. Good customer service, awesome phones, etc. Everyone else has already done all this junk and gone to tiered plans so I'm happy that Sprint has kept their service as is for so long
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I agree, if you find a better service at Sprint's prices, let me know, I'll be upgrading soon.

youdug said:
i like sprint (for now), dont get me wrong. but they are slowly hiking prices and axing services. they just got rid of unlimited 4g hotspot.... i think its only a matter of time before unlimited data is a thing of the past.
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Is there really anyone that uses unlimited hotspot? I can't honestly imagine someone just tethering their laptop, gaming device, ect with their phone ALL day. The only thing that bothers me with the premier loss is return policy.

It is bs. I signed up for unlimited. I should get unlimited. If I spend anymore I might as well just get internet in my house instead of phone. What is this power trip all the carrier's seem to be on? The power to giveth, the power to take away? The power to cancel my service is what they'll get. I don't understand why sprint would make a move for the iphone and sacrifice the biggest advantage that no other carrier provides. That in my mind would be the gold mine and I would squat on it. Unless they are all acting together to gain greater profit from the consumer because they are all not happy with the percentages, it makes no sense. It does make sense however that they would all drop like dominos to the power of apple. After all, they have as much money saved up as our entire government. Tell me that isn't f'd up. Tell me a company like that can't do whatever they want and manipulate the system. I'm sure if we new everything we would pull out our guns to stop it. Die for it. But, who will ever know. Our worst enemy will be loved like family due to secrets and manipulation as we all suffer unrecognized poverty and enslavement. But, we are many.... and the day will come.

Verizon really treated me solid today

Kind of a long read, but here it goes. So last Thursday, for the simple fact that I'm mentally retarded at times I think, I crushed the screen of my Incredible. Since this was the third claim I'd had on my insurance in 3 years, it was dropped and I was well beyond warranty so basically I was left without a phone. I activated an old RAZR just to get me by which, unbeknownst to me, immediately dropped my data plan (grandfathered unlimited). Crap. I scrambled and called VZW customer service only to be told "too bad, so sad" for the most part, well I decided to say screw it and just use the RAZR until the Nexus drops instead of using my upgrade on a phone I didn't really want right now.
Fast forward to Tuesday, I get a call from a VZW CS representative who is doing a follow up (read trying to get me to put the $30 data plan back on before they lost the chance at it) who tells me that, so long as I put a smartphone back on before my next bill (the 30th) they can put the unlimited back on. So starts the decision making process, I really wanted this plan and honestly was going to just use my upgrade for an IP4S (only after hours of scouting CL for a cheap Android and coming up empty) and then sell that when the Nexus dropped and buy the Nexus outright.
Well I went to my local store today and talked over this plan with my rep as well as a few other ideas (such as buying a phone I didn't care about at BB and using their 30 day return window assuming the Nexus drops in the next 30), he tells me to hold on just a second and that he has an idea. Goes to the back, finds an old display Continuum that they are about to return, hands it to me and tells me so long as I give him the sale when the Nexus drops, I can just use the Continuum until then. I was honestly dumbfounded, in all my dealings with VZW (believe me, there's been a lot) they had always done what was right to me in the end, but not without hassle and certainly not by going out of their way for me, so this action really caught me off guard. Talk about earning a customer for life, short of something extraordinarily dramatic in the future, they have me forever. Just thought I'd share this positive story since most aren't that great in the end.
AS far as the Continuum goes, it's honestly surprised the heck out of me. It's still on Eclair because the whole 12 people that actually bought the phone wasn't enough to warrant an upgrade LOL, but it's smooth and extremely responsive honestly for having only 384 MB of RAM (I believe, I don't think it was given the 512 found in the other Galaxy S variants). Far more so than my Incredible was on anything but Gingersense stock and the camera is absolutely in another league despite the 3MP deficit. The ticker display is gimmicky for anything other than music play as far as I'm concerned and I would rather have the extra screen real estate, but other than that I'm extremely pleased with the phone.

That's awesome. I've always had a fantastic time with Verizon too. I love the Big Red. They are awesome. Also, anyone out there will to give up there upgrade so I can get a Galaxy Nexus?

thats awesome man. when/if i get a job for big red, thats how im gonna treat all my customers!

Sounds like you found a good one. We have had a great experience at our Verizon store, but frankly most of the employees suck. You usually tell the ones that won't be very helpful.
Last week I went in and the lady did not even know if they had any android phones with a keyboard. I asked if she knew about any of the new phones coming out and she only knew about the iphone 4s.
I believe they make commission so I don't know why they can be so indifferent.
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T-Keith said:
Sounds like you found a good one. We have had a great experience at our Verizon store, but frankly most of the employees suck. You usually tell the ones that won't be very helpful.
Last week I went in and the lady did not even know if they had any android phones with a keyboard. I asked if she knew about any of the new phones coming out and she only knew about the iphone 4s.
I believe they make commission so I don't know why they can be so indifferent.
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That was 100% what drove my rep to be so helpful, but at that point, I had no care as far as his ulterior motives were concerned lol, I just wanted my unlimited data back.

That's awesome

Dope employee right there

zerocool79346 said:
Kind of a long read, but here it goes. So last Thursday, for the simple fact that I'm mentally retarded at times I think, I crushed the screen of my Incredible. Since this was the third claim I'd had on my insurance in 3 years, it was dropped and I was well beyond warranty so basically I was left without a phone.
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You can buy a replacement screen on amazon for about $30. I've replaced mine twice.