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Is is just me, or is the text entry kind of pathetic on the browser of the tab
any desktop site, like.. Facebook , or XDA, typing lags always a second, so the words and letters typed will show up after you actually type, its not smooth at all...
*laughs hard*
I think there might have been a few discussions about this. Yeah, it's an issue. Dolphin or Opera Mini will work better.
So I think I may have a fix for this. I was digging around in the keyboard settings, and noticed that the Tab ships with "Samsung Keyboard" as the default. I switched mine back to the stock Android keyboard, and it's much better. Of course there are a bunch of replacement keyboards you can use as well, but the stock honeycomb keyboard seems much more responsive than the Samsung one.
So far the Android keyboard, Swiftkey, and Swype keyboards haven't made anything better for me.
I've seen some people say disabling OpenGL in the debug settings helps, but they also say it has some other performance side effects. So... I guess I'll be using Opera Mini for a while.
The Bookmarks widget though makes it real easy to use the stock browser bookmarks (synced from my desktop Chrome browser) real easy with Opera though, so I like that.
ya so far swype is tne worst. But problem ive been having is if i type too fast the keyboard suddenly closes and im constantly having to reopen it.... Its fuggin annoying.
I've been using thumb keyboard and no lag. Its able to keep up with me
i really don't think its keyboard related
I'm using stock hc keyboard
Divineblue try doing a quick reply here on ur tab and you'll see the lag
Its fine in Google search and mobile sites but just des on desktop sites like facebook etc
lag disappears in opera mini but its a slow loading browser and I can tell decreases page quality, also can't get facebook desktop to load, no user agent option
so the hc browser really sucks then and ia behind this text lag
Is this lag a general problem with HC? Do you guys think that it will be fixed?
I got this tab on friday I love it so far but this text entry lag is driving me insane.
Hawk777th said:
Is this lag a general problem with HC? Do you guys think that it will be fixed?
I got this tab on friday I love it so far but this text entry lag is driving me insane.
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It's HC. My Acer had they same issues.
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I use the thumb keyboard and stock browser. It lags like crazy, no different than using any other keyboard.
Has this been reported to Google?
Because of this issue alone, I postponed my purchase of any Android tablet
Web browsing accounts the most for my usage pattern. And I really hate any slow down for doing it.
See if this is fixed in the upcoming Android 3.2 (if it made to GTab) ... or hopefully ICS.
Is it at all lack of power from the Tegra or is it a glitch./-/
I bet on problem with Android Honeycomb.
It is really strange if Tegra does not have enough power on this!
We have a lot of Tegra phones and they don't have this issue. Sure, this is different OS, but that should show about "power".
Probably we need to wait for Android tablet Honeycomb that does not using Tegra.
And see if the problem still there.
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Is it at all lack of power from the Tegra or is it a glitch./-/
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lol its definitely not the tegra 2. Its honeycomb, this one is all google's fault. Kind of sad that google brags about their browser being the fastest than other browser and yet the honeycomb browser can't even handle text entry.
I get the same lag with the samsung keyboard attatchment i bought
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Google Issue 17353 seems its somthing to do with 3.1.
Here is the link:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=17353
Please guys, chip in, report there and star it.
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Google Issue 17353 seems its somthing to do with 3.1.
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Yeah I see what you are talking about now
well done on the post above, i voted
I put my comments in that thread too..
The laggy text in the browser is total fail
Subject says it all. I have owned the Xoom with 3.0, the Asus TF with 3.1, and the Samsung GT 10.1 with 3.1. all suffer from horrific keyboard lag when typing in form boxes, as well as the text being highlighted in blue when typing (which many people believe to be related). It is very apparently when typing a post here at XDA.
The issue has been completely fixed in Samsung's Touchwiz ROM for the Galaxy Tab 10.1. I believe the fix is in the framework or the webkit rendering engine (not the browser.apk itself), because third party browsers like Dolphin Pad also have the issue fixed in Touchwiz (and in stock honeycomb 3.1, dolphin DOES have the typing lag/blue highlights).
I'm trying to figure out if this is something that Samsung fixed themselves, or if they maybe got early access to some new new google code, possibly pre3.2 stuff. So my question to you Xoom folks is, is the typing lag and blue highlights still in 3.2, or is it gone?
Thanks.
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Subject says it all...*Delete 168 words*...Thanks.
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lol...I guess the title didn't say it all...
EvoXOhio said:
Subject says it all. I have owned the Xoom with 3.0, the Asus TF with 3.1, and the Samsung GT 10.1 with 3.1. all suffer from horrific keyboard lag when typing in form boxes, as well as the text being highlighted in blue when typing (which many people believe to be related). It is very apparently when typing a post here at XDA.
The issue has been completely fixed in Samsung's Touchwiz ROM for the Galaxy Tab 10.1. I believe the fix is in the framework or the webkit rendering engine (not the browser.apk itself), because third party browsers like Dolphin Pad also have the issue fixed in Touchwiz (and in stock honeycomb 3.1, dolphin DOES have the typing lag/blue highlights).
I'm trying to figure out if this is something that Samsung fixed themselves, or if they maybe got early access to some new new google code, possibly pre3.2 stuff. So my question to you Xoom folks is, is the typing lag and blue highlights still in 3.2, or is it gone?
Thanks.
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Well, maybe it's fixed, or maybe I never did experience that terrible lag (or only a couple of times). I rarely use the stock browser. I usually use Dolphin HD and don't have problems with it.
I don't use the XDA app though...I always use the browser...don't know for sure, but people have complained about the xda app itself, so maybe that's the problem.
I still see it sometimes with the deodexed stock 3.2 ROM using the default Browser, but not too often.
This has been a problem inherent in android at least going all the way back to Froyo (when I started with AnOs) but I assume it has always been there.
It can be unbelievably bad especially when trying to move the curser only to find that it consistently appears on another line many words away from where you are tapping. And all the people who I personally know using android have experienced this at least once in their use (some are new users).
I hate beat the dead horse, especially because I am an android user, but this is the kind of thing a person would be publicly executed for at Apple or least get off easy by only losing their job.
If it is actually fixed I will be very happy, at the same time I feel like why should we have to applaud a painfully slow departure from incompetence.
Unfortunately Google's "2.0" is what other people call "beta".
Turn off openGL rendering in the browser and it goes away, along with the pages missing in big sections as you scroll.
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Turn off openGL rendering in the browser and it goes away, along with the pages missing in big sections as you scroll.
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Tried that on my galaxy tab 10.1 and it did not fix the issue and made page scrolling much choppier.
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Tried that on my galaxy tab 10.1 and it did not fix the issue and made page scrolling much choppier.
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That sucks. It made mine run a lot smoother.
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Hi,
I recently purchased a Galaxy Tab 10.1 P7510 and have literally tried out all the ROMs out there to try and find the best to help increase the tracking speed of the device. I have searched a lot for the answer but cannot seem to find a definitive one. All of them seem to have considerable lags with stylus input for taking notes.
I do not really care about palm detection, so finding a ROM which speeds up the tracking would be great help. I am not sure if tracking is related to the app that I use as well but I have also tried most of the notepad apps and have found that Antipaper Notes (Zoom function) is the best along with FreeNote (Tracks better, but cannot work on it like an actual notepad)
I just need a bit of help finding the best ROM to take notes on as that is my main use case for the Galaxy Tab.
Thanks!
Someone please help me
Task and phantom's new ROM has a pretty good touch response. heres the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284355
Tivo7 said:
Task and phantom's new ROM has a pretty good touch response. heres the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284355
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Thanks for your reply.
I have been on "In Paris V2" for quite some time now. It has a much better response time than the stock ROM but is still very difficult to use. I was wondering if anyone had better experience with any other ROM, or if it is the notes app which is the main cause for the slow tracking?
esc247 said:
Thanks for your reply.
I have been on "In Paris V2" for quite some time now. It has a much better response time than the stock ROM but is still very difficult to use. I was wondering if anyone had better experience with any other ROM, or if it is the notes app which is the main cause for the slow tracking?
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I have used every ROM on this forum for 7510 and I have to say, I like task's work the best (with the exception of his V7, but V7.1 fixes the issues i had with v7)
What problems are you having with In Paris V2?
Tivo7 said:
I have used every ROM on this forum for 7510 and I have to say, I like task's work the best (with the exception of his V7, but V7.1 fixes the issues i had with v7)
What problems are you having with In Paris V2?
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The only issue that I have is tracking with a stylus. Everything else is peachy! I want to be able to write notes on it with a stylus. And when trying to do so it seems that everytime I write an I or L in any case it completely fails to recognise it! :S and if i'm trying to write something quickly ten that's a whole new ball game!
esc247 said:
The only issue that I have is tracking with a stylus. Everything else is peachy! I want to be able to write notes on it with a stylus. And when trying to do so it seems that everytime I write an I or L in any case it completely fails to recognise it! :S and if i'm trying to write something quickly ten that's a whole new ball game!
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Well, truth be told, you're going to have that problem no matter what ROM you use. Are you doing handwriting to text? Or saving the handwriting as is?
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Well, truth be told, you're going to have that problem no matter what ROM you use. Are you doing handwriting to text? Or saving the handwriting as is?
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saving the handwriting as is. Oh well i guess i'll have to wait for ICS and see if that improves things or even for 3.2.
Cheers anyways!
esc247 said:
saving the handwriting as is. Oh well i guess i'll have to wait for ICS and see if that improves things or even for 3.2.
Cheers anyways!
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If you're saving handwriting as is, how is it "not recognizing" letters? It's not reading your pen strokes?
yeah it isnt recognising the strokes.
Just a thought, I have no idea if it would make a difference - google "stylus-r-us" and take a look at the website. They're expensive, but there IS a money-back guarantee. Might be worth a phone call to talk to them. Good luck.
I read somewhere in these forums that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 only has something like 600 <pressure> points whereas the ipad2 and Asus Eee Pad have 1200. No matter what stylus you use, handwriting is never going to be the strong point on this tablet unless Samsung addresses this issue. I've tried every Rom, writing app and stylus - some work better than others - but handwriting is still pretty much uselss because there simply isn't enough points available. It's a disappointment with the Galaxy Tab for sure, but I've been using the Logitech bluetooth keyboard (and case) and that's been working out well. But still miss the legible handwriting......
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Thanks for your reply guys! this is a real disappointment! and to make things worse, I bought the damn thing from the US or I woud've returned it for an iPad! Shizz guess im stuck with it now till the iPad 3 (or something better) comes out.
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I read somewhere in these forums that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 only has something like 600 <pressure> points whereas the ipad2 and Asus Eee Pad have 1200. No matter what stylus you use, handwriting is never going to be the strong point on this tablet unless Samsung addresses this issue. I've tried every Rom, writing app and stylus - some work better than others - but handwriting is still pretty much uselss because there simply isn't enough points available. It's a disappointment with the Galaxy Tab for sure, but I've been using the Logitech bluetooth keyboard (and case) and that's been working out well. But still miss the legible handwriting......
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Thanks, I reached the same conclusions. planning on buying a zagg bluetooth keyboard.
Just got a new 10.1 yesterday and gave myself a day to see how much I like it. Speed is always a big deal for me. Im actually typing from the tab now. The keyboard isnt too bad, but I dont see a autocorrection so far, but have not looked into it. The speed of the Touchwiz and homescreens is much better than most had me believe. I dont have any lag between the tapping of the arrow and the animation to show the quick apps.
The tablet also came fully updated, as far as the tablet shows through the update wizard. I will eventually check up the dev section and make sure I have the latest update today or tomorrow. The touchscreen does show a bit of lag as far as drawing with the fingers but isnt too bad and rougly on course with the A100 from Acer, my previous tablet. Battery is also great, and came 50% charged when I bought it, and didnt drop below 40% for the 4 hours I had used it before throwing it on the charger and watching some youtube and netflix.
Anyways, that was a quick review, and I love the tablet as of right now, when I thought the Tw UX was going to be a pain, but hasshown to be opposite and not too bad.
Thanks,
Mike
I just ordered one of these. I dunno if I'll get it since the contract was too good to be true. Nonetheless, if it get it, it'll be a worthy successor to my übermodified ZTE Light.
try ADWlauncher ....is the best by far for interface
Go launcher HD... not on market, Google it .
It works flawlessly.
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You should get "ADWlauncher Ex"
It's a very good launcher replacement, better than the stock one.
For the keyboard, you can try Thumb Keyboard
both apps aren't free... but it's worth it
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Just got a new 10.1 yesterday and gave myself a day to see how much I like it. Speed is always a big deal for me. Im actually typing from the tab now. The keyboard isnt too bad, but I dont see a autocorrection so far, but have not looked into it. The speed of the Touchwiz and homescreens is much better than most had me believe. I dont have any lag between the tapping of the arrow and the animation to show the quick apps.
The tablet also came fully updated, as far as the tablet shows through the update wizard. I will eventually check up the dev section and make sure I have the latest update today or tomorrow. The touchscreen does show a bit of lag as far as drawing with the fingers but isnt too bad and rougly on course with the A100 from Acer, my previous tablet. Battery is also great, and came 50% charged when I bought it, and didnt drop below 40% for the 4 hours I had used it before throwing it on the charger and watching some youtube and netflix.
Anyways, that was a quick review, and I love the tablet as of right now, when I thought the Tw UX was going to be a pain, but hasshown to be opposite and not too bad.
Thanks,
Mike
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Thanks all forth replies. I havebthe thumb keyboard already, but don't need a new launcher or anything yet, since the stock is working perfect. The next next thing I'm waiting on is the ics update in the coming months. I do plan to root this soon, but won't use an ics Rom since I use the cameras often. I may throw Task or overcome on this instead while I wait. Overall a very good tablet, and the detail is amazing as far as the resolution and everything else goes.
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Thanks all forth replies. I havebthe thumb keyboard already, but don't need a new launcher or anything yet, since the stock is working perfect. The next next thing I'm waiting on is the ics update in the coming months. I do plan to root this soon, but won't use an ics Rom since I use the cameras often. I may throw Task or overcome on this instead while I wait. Overall a very good tablet, and the detail is amazing as far as the resolution and everything else goes.
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I have never liked ADW launcher and tried the Go HD launcher today and I don't like it either.. I'm with you, I enjoy the stock one the best..
Thumb Keyboard ROCKS and so does HD Widgets and Reader HD..
Task 14 is just as fast as ICS and its rock solid and stable...
Enjoy the Tab, I still love mine 6 months after buying it...
Mine came with Swype built in (a TMobile tab) and I rooted it, and uninstalled the installed version and use the newest one from their site. I just love the black keys.
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Go launcher HD... not on market, Google it .
It works flawlessly.
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Although, I've tried this and readily liked it. Isn't it still in beta2 with next to no options for changing anything? It's been a few days since I've checked so maybe its been updated again.
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Although, I've tried this and readily liked it. Isn't it still in beta2 with next to no options for changing anything? It's been a few days since I've checked so maybe its been updated again.
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Its still beta 2 with zero options..
I have a gift through my ADSL company to bring 3 guests
P7500 is the white model. I bought a white cover and buyincoins amazonUK an adapter to make memory cards and USB flash drives.
the hard disk via USB (2.5) do not work, ask for energy.
morrit said:
I have a gift through my ADSL company to bring 3 guests
P7500 is the white model. I bought a white cover and buyincoins amazonUK an adapter to make memory cards and USB flash drives.
the hard disk via USB (2.5) do not work, ask for energy.
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If you're needing help with the hard disk, you need to search first, and then if nothing is found make a new thread in Q&A section.
It will probably be missed in here and considered rude hijacking someone elses thread.
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If you are on HC 3.2 you are alright, but if still on 3.1 I'd news astonished if you liked the touch wiz. It its just horrible. ADW EX its the lightest and the most heavily customisable. The most appealing is spb 3d. It its amazing but uses more ram.
However congrats for your new tab and hope you enjoy it;-)
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If you are on HC 3.2 you are alright, but if still on 3.1 I'd news astonished if you liked the touch wiz. It its just horrible. ADW EX its the lightest and the most heavily customisable. The most appealing is spb 3d. It its amazing but uses more ram.
However congrats for your new tab and hope you enjoy it;-)
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The stock experience was great. Im using task 14 now and honestly don't see very much improvement in speed, but I always love a custom rom and root. Honestly I prefer stock launchers over custom ones for no apparent reason .
Hello,
I've had my tf101 for a few months now and it has been good but it doesn't live up to my laptop at all. I can't browse as quickly as I am used to and although it's great for travelling, I keep missing my laptop.
It has been good to use, don't get me wrong but nowadays it's difficult to use the browser. Both browser and ics browser+ keep freezing and I honestly feel like returning it. I've had it for 5 months but am I right in that Amazon won't let me return it after this long?
I'm not sure how to sell it either as I don't want to sell something to someone that I am not happy with 100%. Honestly, it's a good tablet but I really miss my laptop (I'm a fast typer and browser so perhaps this is why it freezes as I a too fast) but I also don't want to root it and add custo roms so perhaps someone else who can do that will be better with my tablet.
Anyone else passed on their tablet? is it too late to return it?
The stock browser definitely has it's problems, have you tried installing chrome or firefox and seen how that works for you? Unfortunately keyboard lag is not something android seems to be able to get a grip on - but that's an issue across many devices.
You can still sell it and just be honest about your experience in the product description; there will still be people willing to buy it.
First, you should try another browser, as alan said (chrome, firefox, skyfire, dolphin etc...) and another keyboard (slidekey for example).
And if it doesn't work, may be is it because of another program, so may be reset the tablet will fix the problem ?
Good luck
I realized that slow internet connection will cause the freezing of the browsers or even fc.
I had the same experience with the browser and had initial buyers remorse too. My advice is to Root, I know you said you didn't want to...you won't regret it. I love the Revolver Rom with the Harmony kernel overclocked to 1500. This setup has been very good to me, and I've tried them all (including JB). If you still won't root, try changing the channels on your router to a less commonly used channel (this helped some, when I first got my tf101). Additionally, this is something I just found out this week, try moving really close to you wireless router (like a foot away) and se if your speeds/browser experience improves. My router is behind my TV and for ****s and giggles I did a speed test from my couch 10 feet away and got half the speeds! 30mbps near the router and 15mbps at the couch. I'm not sure if it's a weak wifi antenna in the Asus, or a weak router broadcast. Anyway...just my 2 cents...hopefully it helps somewhat.
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Hello,
I've had my tf101 for a few months now and it has been good but it doesn't live up to my laptop at all. I can't browse as quickly as I am used to and although it's great for travelling, I keep missing my laptop.
It has been good to use, don't get me wrong but nowadays it's difficult to use the browser. Both browser and ics browser+ keep freezing and I honestly feel like returning it. I've had it for 5 months but am I right in that Amazon won't let me return it after this long?
I'm not sure how to sell it either as I don't want to sell something to someone that I am not happy with 100%. Honestly, it's a good tablet but I really miss my laptop (I'm a fast typer and browser so perhaps this is why it freezes as I a too fast) but I also don't want to root it and add custo roms so perhaps someone else who can do that will be better with my tablet.
Anyone else passed on their tablet? is it too late to return it?
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Are you still on the stock rom?
It's not a question of the browser. Do you know that time when a normal computer is too slow and you need to clean it or even format it to take all the junk off? So that's is what's going on with your tablet.
You can full wipe to the Android system and it will be like new again but if it was me i would root it and installed a custom ROM as they come all tweak and way faster then the original ones...
If you want to give it a smooth touch install a launcher. It will be awesome :good:
you should install Firefox Aurora
I never had any issues with the stock browser on honeycomb. Problem was honeycomb sucked. Loaded prime with honeycomb and still had no issues, but used dolphin more. Once ICS came out, the stock browser was greatly improved. I favor it over dolphin now. I did have an issue with the browser "freezing" but it wasn't unresponsive, it just wouldn't load pages after a few minutes of use. But, the issue happened with dolphin and chome as well. turned out to be the rom i was using. Chrome sucks anyway. No flash and it's a lot slower than the pc version.
There's a problem with Chrome - it always freezes. when I go to, say, homescreen (after freezing) and back to chrome, it has turned to simply black screen. And I have to kill the app and start over. It happens quite often. Otherwise it would be the best browser as it can do certain things in certain websites that none of those other browsers can.
As for OP's problem.. well, maybe laptop would be better, as android tablets still can't compare with it, no matter what they say. They're not just for anywone. Not yet.
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There's a problem with Chrome - it always freezes. when I go to, say, homescreen (after freezing) and back to chrome, it has turned to simply black screen. And I have to kill the app and start over. It happens quite often. Otherwise it would be the best browser as it can do certain things in certain websites that none of those other browsers can.
As for OP's problem.. well, maybe laptop would be better, as android tablets still can't compare with it, no matter what they say. They're not just for anywone. Not yet.
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Same problem here. Chrome freezes every 5 minutes, no idea why
The browser isn't much better, although it crash less often it is quite slower....
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Well, after 1.5 years and many, many ROMs - even JB now, the browsers still suck. Freezes, crashes, losing of tabs. It's the problem with Transformer most likely because it seems that my phones are free of those problems and didn't see similar reports from users of other brand tablets.