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Hi folks,
I am seeing 1530 mah batteries on sale in eBay now. They are supposed to be the same size as the original 1350 mah battery. My problem is that the image used to display the battery is the same as the image used to display the original 1350 mah battery. (Part number: 35H00120-01M)
So, is this a "rip off" or are the sellers just lazy and use an "old" image?
Does anyone have any experience with these new high capacity batteries that they can share with this forum?
Thank you,
David
Hmm... well you also see sellers on Ebay flogging adaptors specifically to convert the audio output of the Touch HD to a 3.5mm socket... Puzzled.
My experience with cheap far east batteries for various products is very mixed. I've had some really good ones at silly low prices, yet some others that were no good at all.
Sometimes they omit protection devices from the batteries to save cost, which can make them more prone to blowing up especially if inadvertently overcharged or short-circuited. Omitting this protection can also help make room for larger capacity cells.
Usual phrase applies: "buyer beware".
Personally I would avoid.
I have used a lot of 3rd party batteries before and I would say 95% of them are rubbish especially the ones where they claim higher capacity for the same physical size. I have used larger batteries that comes with its own custom battery cover. Only these types of batteries have lasted longer than the original.
At the end of the day HTC, Nokia, SE, Samsung etc. would want to pack the highest possible capacity for a given space while maintaining safety standards. They know what they're doing... They want to "squeeze" as much as possible to make our devices smaller. Cheap 3rd party manufacturers are not going to have the same clout.
Li Polomer ? Battery from another phone??
Could the difference in capacity be due to an upgrade in technology? That is moving from a straight Li ion battery to a Li ion polymer battery?
Further to this discussion, are there any other batteries from another make / model phone / PDA that is 100% compatible with the HTC Touch HD AND has a higher capacity than the original 1350 mah?
Thank you,
David
I would say it has to be a few months more before any decent extended battery appears in the market.
Stupid question: Has the Diamond (or the Touch Pro) the same batteries, or at least the same size? I think there will be more battieres for the Diamond right now, as it has been published a few weeks earlier.
johnpatcher said:
Stupid question: Has the Diamond (or the Touch Pro) the same batteries, or at least the same size? I think there will be more battieres for the Diamond right now, as it has been published a few weeks earlier.
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Diamond and Touch Pro share the same battery. i have a second HTC OEM Blackstone battery for backup. the ebay posting could also be a typo; 1350 vs. 1530? if i'm going for extra capacity, it will be with a battery that provides at least 25%+ more capacity.
delewin said:
Could the difference in capacity be due to an upgrade in technology? That is moving from a straight Li ion battery to a Li ion polymer battery?
Further to this discussion, are there any other batteries from another make / model phone / PDA that is 100% compatible with the HTC Touch HD AND has a higher capacity than the original 1350 mah?
Thank you,
David
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New technologies tend to be more expensive when they are brought to the market to cover development costs, and it's very rarely, that cheap asian products represent newest technologies, which is not used by the big manufacturing companies ...
Hi Guys,
If you are looking for good and reputation battery source,
you can proceed to www.worcell.com
They provide high quality batteries, be it normal or high capacity.
I bought an O2 Atom Life battery. It could last me 3 good days with high usage.
Now, I'm still waiting for them to produce the Blackstone battery. I definitely will get
one space battery!
delewin said:
Hi folks,
I am seeing 1530 mah batteries on sale in eBay now. They are supposed to be the same size as the original 1350 mah battery. My problem is that the image used to display the battery is the same as the image used to display the original 1350 mah battery. (Part number: 35H00120-01M)
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Well i think it's an typo. 1530 - 1350. Why not 1600 or something else. 1530mAh is a verry strang capacity for a battery.
HTC MAX 4G T8290 battery
I thought perhaps the 1500mAh battery that comes with the MAX 4G might fit into our Touch HDs. But the MAX is slightly thicker than the HD which may explain a bigger battery..
That Worcell site looks promising.
o2crazy said:
Hi Guys,
If you are looking for good and reputation battery source,
you can proceed to www.worcell.com
They provide high quality batteries, be it normal or high capacity.
I bought an O2 Atom Life battery. It could last me 3 good days with high usage.
Now, I'm still waiting for them to produce the Blackstone battery. I definitely will get
one space battery!
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Thank you 02crazy, that Worcell site looks promising.
I agree. A little patients will be beneficial. I envisage a 1800 mah or 2200 mah extended battery option soon. It will come with a matching back, to allow for the extra thickness of the battery. This would not put me off, as I have used a PDA with a "piggy back" second battery for years. (It would not win a beauty contest, but it lasted for days.)
Regards,
David
cortez.i said:
Diamond and Touch Pro share the same battery.
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But does this mean that the HD uses the same battery as well?
cortez.i said:
Diamond and Touch Pro share the same battery.
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How sure are you about that? Diamond's battery is 900mah and Pro's is 1350nah!
I have ordered a battery for 1530. Obtained in 1500. The manufacturer is unknown, that photo http://picasaweb.google.ru/lh/photo/WZxn7zATZXWUD2u7VU1dHQ?feat=directlink
Test has not yet succeeded. But at first look, working longer
Ηello! i am thinking to buy this cheap ebay batteries (if they worth it). Does anyone know if they are good?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-1530mah...372724?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a6f0f3cb4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Recharg...ccessories&hash=item3cb6f811c3#ht_2991wt_1138
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Galili-...Accessories&hash=item230b076791#ht_2931wt_950
Any good battery close to stock battery? I want to buy a new one!
Hi.
I recently bought a new Fat battery for my desire. It promises to deliver 2600 mAH but i have my doubts...
First of all, only the voltage is printed on the battery itself.
Second, I experience worse uptime than on my original 1400 mAH battery.
Third, I guess Iam just sceptical by nature.
So my question: Is there an app out there that will display max capacity?
Or do I really have to measure it with a multimeter?
Hearnz said:
Hi.
I recently bought a new Fat battery for my desire. It promises to deliver 2600 mAH but i have my doubts...
First of all, only the voltage is printed on the battery itself.
Second, I experience worse uptime than on my original 1400 mAH battery.
Third, I guess Iam just sceptical by nature.
So my question: Is there an app out there that will display max capacity?
Or do I really have to measure it with a multimeter?
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the only way to measure precisely is using an app called
battery monitor widget
have it measure the current and voltage every 60 seconds
fully charged ur volatge suppose to be at ~4.2V with either battery
the drainage suppose to be the same at screen off
lets say ur phone drains 9mA steady
u should see the voltage sinking slower on the higher capacity battery
i would give it an hour or 2 hours on each battery to check the result
example:
1400mAh battery
steady 9mA current over 2 hours from 4200mV down to 4150mV
2600mAh batter
steady 9mA current over 2 hours from 4200mV down to 4175mV
hope it helped^^
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.digibites.m.sysmon&feature=search_result
This shows the mAh.
if you brought the £13 one made in China from ebay (like I did) then it's a total fake the stock battery lasts longer, the only good thing about it is because the back cover is that much thicker you can rest it on it's side to watch movies etc...!
beanbean50 said:
if you brought the £13 one made in China from ebay (like I did) then it's a total fake the stock battery lasts longer, the only good thing about it is because the back cover is that much thicker you can rest it on it's side to watch movies etc...!
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That's true. Better to buy the original.
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What about this battery????
1700MAH HB4F1 Battery For Huawei U8800 i found on ebay
Seems interesting. Have anyone baught?
Should work fine. Nice to know that the U8800 battery is the same as some other Huawei devices too. Should be plenty of batteries for sale.
I fancy a high capacity battery myself.
looks good...i already got an extra one from deal extreme but it's a cheap knock off. would love to hear from someone that bought this one.
darkado said:
looks good...i already got an extra one from deal extreme but it's a cheap knock off. would love to hear from someone that bought this one.
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it s not good the one from dealextreme; I mean does it last enough;
Tapatalked from bed...
i know, 5 hours at the most. still ok for emergencies.
I bought it today... now just waiting for it....
HB4F1
the cheap knock off is the one you can find from dealextreme by searching u8800?
dealextreme.com/p/genuine-hb4f1-compatible-rechargeable-3-7v-1500mah-li-ion-battery-for-huawei-e585-e5830-70554
i just ordered 2. :/
but it's genuine AND compatible
Hi
I have found this battery on ebay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLD-2430MAH-HB4F1-BUSINESS-BATTERY-HUAWEI-E5830-E5832-E5836-E5838-E5-ASCEND-/130576493812?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e66f72cf4 and from the description "seems" possible a good capacity. For me if the technology is always lipo is impossible a capacity of 2.4A with same battery size and weight, but 1.7~1.8 is credible if really the cell is Japan made.
Bye
Fabryxy
Edit: sorry but from the neutral feedback of the seller seems that many people have denote same\less capacity of stock battery.
fabryxy said:
Hi
I have found this battery on ebay: REMOVED and from the description "seems" possible a good capacity. For me if the technology is always lipo is impossible a capacity of 2.4A with same battery size and weight, but 1.7~1.8 is credible if really the cell is Japan made.
Bye
Fabryxy
Edit: sorry but from the neutral feedback of the seller seems that many people have denote same\less capacity of stock battery.
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see this
Made in Japan
2 year warranty
Ultra-high capacity battery
Maximizes time between charges
Delivers superior performance
Robust & durable battery
Direct battery replacement
Stable and safe to use
No "memory effect"
Lightweight lithium-ion
Capacity: 2430mAh
Well the original battery is a Lithium Polymer and NOT a Lithium Ion
so there is a difference between both off them
Pretty ****ty battery. Probaply not the battery what it says.
someone have tried one of these powerful battery like the 1700mah or 2430mah one?
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someone have tried one of these powerful battery like the 1700mah or 2430mah one?
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From what I've read, the "amazing" gold 1800/2430mAh batteries are extremely crap.
i have ordered a 1800 battery and waiting to arrive in monday so ill test it and post my opinion!
anyone tested? its capacity is real?
I have been going through 10" Android tablets like good beer (no driving of course). So far the A500, Thrive, Prime, A510, Excite Quad 16gb and now the TF300. Many reasons for returning them:
A500 = Weak wifi and visible verticle screen lines.
Thrive = Kept it, but sold recently due to poor Tegra 2 video support
Prime = Weak wifi, iffy touch response
A510 = Gets too warm/hot on right side- this also impacts battery life if sustained. Also has visible verticle lines, but not as bad as A500.
Excite Quad = Bad light bleed, poor file support, battery drain issues and crazy big connector (the footprint of that and the cable is about the same space as the tablet). File management was also an issue (like the Thrive, the Excite is poor in this regard).
Office Max has (at the moment) the TF300 on sale for $350 and the keyboard for $100, so got both for the same price as the A510 and Excite. This seemed too good to not jump on, so got both yesterday morning. Here is a review/comparison with the A510 & Excite:
Build = Good, but A510 and Excite are better
Display = Some light bleed bottom right corner, but IMO, better display than the A510 and Excite and GREAT touch response like the Excite.
Sound = Kind of weak and not on same level as the A510 and Excite. Headphone sound is good.
Performance = About the same as the A510, which is very good. Excite seemed a little better and benchmarks support this.
Heat = Coolest tablet I have used. The A510 gets hot when using the GPU and even the Excite gets warm.
Wifi = Great. All three perform fine, but the 300 appears tops.
File management = Great. Seemless with dock. I have a 64gb loaded in the tablet and a 128gb card loaded in the dock. All apps work fine and media is stutter free. Ditto for 64gb thumbdrives too. IMO, this tablet equals the A510 and both are FAR better than the Excite.
GPS = Seems fine, but I do not use it on tablets.
Keyboard = Better than expected and game emulators are more playable than using virtual pads (though touch is good). Handy if no controller is around. Speaking of controllers, they work as good as my laptop.
Battery life = Only had less than 24 hours, but battery life is in between the A510 and Excite, which is good. Seems the battery life will actually be better than the A510 with dock attached.
Stuff I do not like:
Plastic docking section. Not sure how long this will hold up compared to metal. Metal would seem a better option for the back and the curved section the tablet seats in.
Proprietary connector. I prefer the A510 design since can use a normal micro USB in a pinch for trickle charge with a computer.
No USB connector on tablet. This seems flat out silly to me. Even Samsung is adding them now. I have already had a few times where I was at another computer, but had no way to transfer data. At least with the iPad the cable is so common you can get one in a pinch- not so with this. The good news is the Asus cable is small like iPads and not a giant monster like the A510 (what were they thinking?).
I will restate more directly- It is flat out STUPID to have no USB, but no connector on this tablet is by design, since Asus has already stated with the Prime and Transformer they made the most margin on the docks, so want people to buy them.
As a complete system, the tablet and dock rock, but just as a tablet, the usb issue is huge to me. If the total price was $550 rather than $450, I would not have bought this, since too close to laptop price territory for me. Not sure I would just have the tablet though, so total price drove me to the TF300.
Net result is all current tablets have issues and there really is no "perfect tablet", IMO. If I did not have or want a laptop, even at $550 the TF300 is good. For what I paid though, the TF300 and dock rocks hard!
Note: Acer just released their A700 and the performance seems to support concerns Anandtech had that the Tegra 3 efficiency sweet spot is 1280X800 and anything beyond that appears to trend in diminishing returns. Until Nvidia pulls an Apple and makes a more robust GPU for the Tegra 3, I think users are better off with a good IPS 1280X800 display.
Asus does make a 40-pin to USB 2.0 converter for the tablet. It costs around $32 on E-bay.
You stated that you didn't like it not having one because you couldn't trickle charge it from a computer. USB connectors have an output of .5A max, the TF300 charger is a 2A. That effectively means that you'll have to be connected to a PC 4 times longer to get the same charge as from the charger. Even charging an advanced phone from the USB port takes forever. In my opinion, that is completely unreasonable as an expectation. USB on these things is for data transfer, not charging.
I really love how fast the TF300 charges. From empty to full in about 2 hours.
meatrocket said:
Asus does make a 40-pin to USB 2.0 converter for the tablet. It costs around $32 on E-bay.
You stated that you didn't like it not having one because you couldn't trickle charge it from a computer. USB connectors have an output of .5A max, the TF300 charger is a 2A. That effectively means that you'll have to be connected to a PC 4 times longer to get the same charge as from the charger. Even charging an advanced phone from the USB port takes forever. In my opinion, that is completely unreasonable as an expectation. USB on these things is for data transfer, not charging.
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The reasons were charging and data transfer. The nice thing about trickle charge is you can use the device or transfer data and not take a battery hit. Handy if without the stock charger for extended time.
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The reasons were charging and data transfer. The nice thing about trickle charge is you can use the device or transfer data and not take a battery hit. Handy if without the stock charger for extended time.
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True that! But come on - 10 -15 hours worth of transfer? Still, we would have to have some type of USB cable, standard or proprietary. Standard would definitely be better. Like you said, at least it's not the 510's cable!
Edit :was reading and posted by mistake.. Anyways I'm loving the Tf300t . I use this as a netbook replacement since all i use latops is for internet and MSword and this lasts much longer. Sometimes II'm using this all day and with wifi on i have to charge it once through the day with the dock. but thats over 12 hours nonstop with no screen off ... I use it heavily constantly streaming video,torrenting, web etc so its reasonable I think
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True that! But come on - 10 -15 hours worth of transfer? Still, we would have to have some type of USB cable, standard or proprietary. Standard would definitely be better. Like you said, at least it's not the 510's cable!
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Fair points. Sadly, I am having massive battery drain issues I mentioned in another thread. It has happened twice in a row in a very clean environment (restarted and no apps using notifications). If I do not figure this out soon I will return both. That said, since using a stock device there should be NOTHING to figure out- it should just work.
I am wondering if leaving my 128gb sd card in is leaving the dock active, but battery use only shows (two tasks) most percentage being display and then some for idle. No media activity and the files on the card are PSX games and video (the PSX has .nomedia in the directory). The Toshiba Excite would burn over 12%, but was a media task doing it (Toshiba issue). In this case, only the display and idle shows as using battery.
Just last night in 6.5 hours from 100% in both, it burned through the dock and 35% of the tablet. The display was off before going to sleep and checking in the middle of the brief night. I got a great deal on the both, so this is bitter irony.
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The reasons were charging and data transfer. The nice thing about trickle charge is you can use the device or transfer data and not take a battery hit. Handy if without the stock charger for extended time.
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Not really sure what the problem is... The part of the cable that plugs into the charger is a USB connection, so you can transfer files to/from your comouter. It also trickle charges just like you want. I know because when I was messing with creating a Debian chroot image, my tablet was connected to my laptop for a long time and inched its way from ~50% to 100%. It took a loooong time, but it charged.
Really, the only downside to the proprietary connector is that you can't just use any micro-USB cable you want; it has to be the Asus cable.
Cool. Did not know on the trickle. Now, if I can just solve the battery drain to avoid a return. Love the dock & tablet system, but the battery drain is a killer.
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Cool. Did not know on the trickle. Now, if I can just solve the battery drain to avoid a return. Love the dock & tablet system, but the battery drain is a killer.
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I'm watching your other thread on the battery issue. Please update when you know something. Sorry to hear you're having this problem. There's nothing that sucks worse than a new toy that won't work right!
Does the trickle charge only work with the tablet? While connected to my computer when using with dock attached, the dock drained to nothing and the tablet did not charge once the dock was dead.
I guess I answered my own question perhaps, since the dock did not charge at all and no way for the tablet to use the USB source since feeds through the dock which died. It is a series charge flow.
The original battery I got from Huaiwei Ideos X5 U8800 earlier this year is short of amazing, it sometime turned off w/o any reason acting as if it doesn't have anymore battery only half hour! I've got some oem batteries, they worked but can not offer me more battery power.
So I am looking for an extended battery that will fit in this phone and is compatible with it but will have longer battery life of a standard sized with brand name. I found one from mpj( sorry that i can't link yet) which likely meet all my requirements. Anybody using this battery? Does these kind of batteries really deliver more battery time than stock?
Thanks
roengelin said:
The original battery I got from Huaiwei Ideos X5 U8800 earlier this year is short of amazing, it sometime turned off w/o any reason acting as if it doesn't have anymore battery only half hour! I've got some oem batteries, they worked but can not offer me more battery power.
So I am looking for an extended battery that will fit in this phone and is compatible with it but will have longer battery life of a standard sized with brand name. I found one from mpj( sorry that i can't link yet) which likely meet all my requirements. Anybody using this battery? Does these kind of batteries really deliver more battery time than stock?
Thanks
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Actually there is no way that either of all standard size extended batteries are the mAh they claim, probably offer ur phone several hundred mah , but still think it is worthwhile compare to those oems:laugh::laugh:
Hi
You can try this on ebay: - MPJ Bateria 2500mAh para AT&T Impulse 4G Huawei M860 Ascend U8800 IDEOS X5
Alternatively Mugen Power has X5 batteries (extended)
These are premium batteries and are expensive
http://mugen.co/huawei/huawei-ideos-x5-u8800h.html
I got a new battery from the local Huawei store and get 1day+ on CM11 rom
don't know how these will perform
thnx