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Unlocked Bootloader?

Hello all...
I apologize if this has been asked already but does the A500 have an unlockable bootloader? That's really the only thing holding me back from purchasing one.

Locked...at the moment, check the recovery thread below to follow the progress.
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locked isn't that big of a problem...locked and encrypted IS.
I'm picking up a camera at best buy tonight and if I get my tablet (which I was planning on getting soon anyway...just wasn't decided on model) at the same time, it will be interest free for 18 months
I'll probably grab the A500 and see if I can contribute development wise.
EDIT: I'm going to hold off a few more weeks yet...I waited this long, I can wait a little longer.
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Dollyllama said:
locked isn't that big of a problem...locked and encrypted IS.
I'm picking up a camera at best buy tonight and if I get my tablet (which I was planning on getting soon anyway...just wasn't decided on model) at the same time, it will be interest free for 18 months
I'll probably grab the A500 and see if I can contribute development wise.
EDIT: I'm going to hold off a few more weeks yet...I waited this long, I can wait a little longer.
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18 months is why I picked up one as well. Comparing it to my grab
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Got one on the 18 month dealio as well....
I am just not much help in the dev department

Rather than start a new thread, I'll just post my question here.
I'm about to pull the trigger on the Iconia, especially with the deals going on right now. I know the bootloader is locked, but I'm wondering what does it limit us from doing? We have root (is it temp root?) and we can flash ROMs. What can't we do? And in case Acer stops releasing updates, can we update it with ICS by flashing?

harveydent said:
Rather than start a new thread, I'll just post my question here.
I'm about to pull the trigger on the Iconia, especially with the deals going on right now. I know the bootloader is locked, but I'm wondering what does it limit us from doing? We have root (is it temp root?) and we can flash ROMs. What can't we do? And in case Acer stops releasing updates, can we update it with ICS by flashing?
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The bootloader is NOT locked. It IS, however, protected by a hashcode. That's what the "itsmagic" tool does, it recalculates the hashcode after flashing a ROM so that the device can boot.
If you forget that step (our custom CWM does it for you), say hello to bricksville. Otherwise, we can do what we want.

Thanks for the reply. I figured something like that a few minutes after I posted. I was just confused at the complaints that the A500 was locked in other forums.
So to be clear, as long as someone can port it, we will be able to get "updates" even if Acer drops all support?

harveydent said:
Thanks for the reply. I figured something like that a few minutes after I posted. I was just confused at the complaints that the A500 was locked in other forums.
So to be clear, as long as someone can port it, we will be able to get "updates" even if Acer drops all support?
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Yep, as long as someone ports it, we don't need Acer.

Is it true??? Root maybe coming??

So I found this on the EVO 3D channel. Looks like they found a hole they may be able to use for rooting 2.3.3!
See the links listed in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135100

tnerb123 said:
So I found this on the EVO 3D channel. Looks like they found a hole they may be able to use for rooting 2.3.3!
See the links listed in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135100
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I already have root on my EVO whats the point of this?

there is a whole evo 3d forum here on XDA which would be a better place to talk about it

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I love all the posts about just watch here and they'll be tons of posts about the new root. now that one is close.
One post

Right now, there is NO new root. I guaranty you there will be people Fighting to be the first to post when it actually drops. Plus, if you read the thread, they state that it seems to be very device specific...meaning it may not help us, we don't know yet. Unless you are a dev or a tester, we are still in wait-and-see mode.

True but I suspect the same root will work on this device as well. Just surprised to see so little chatter about it

rezistrat said:
True but I suspect the same root will work on this device as well. Just surprised to see so little chatter about it
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Why get the hopes up of all of the noobs that took the OTA. The smart ones that got unlucky with a warranty swap or an insurance claim that got 2.3.3 on a new/refurb phone knows where to look and when to ask about it.

I heard unrevoked has a solution. They appear to have bootloader loop issue to resolve before they can publish a solution.
Hope this is true.
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MrDSL said:
I already have root on my EVO whats the point of this?
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It went over your head completely. Derty-der...
Many people with unrooted phones and GB 2.3.3, S-ON, are waiting for a solution to get flipped over to s-off. So they can root.
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Im sure xda devs are hard at work I will wait as long as it takes them or until they say it can't be done
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sweet i heard they rooted the cdma hero

True, yes it may be coming. Quote the maybe part ok let's all move on.

They actually said last night in IRC that it's unlikely that the exploit will work on Sense 1.0 roms.

Did Acer kill the Iconia?

It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!

First, wrong section; you should know better by now.
Second, just because Acer have made it a bugger to root, doesn't mean the tablet is dead. It's absolutely useable without being rooted, and 99% of consumers don't actually give a monkeys about rooting, or even know what it actually is.
Hell, we get plenty of people on here asking what it is or what it's for...

New iconia is scheduled for Dec release but may get pushed back to january.

Interesting, you are posing that on XDA. We dont believe in Impossible to Root device. That is why people come to XDA; How to break what seem unbreakable or unlock what seem unlock-able. Just give some time, some genius will always find a way to kick some Corporate teeth in.

well wasnt it acer excuse not unlock the bootloader since honeycomb was not open source. I think that was one of their statements, so once we get updated to ICS maybe we all can start with a tweet assault on them again.
Not sure about u guys but I feel more comfortable recommending the xoom or asus tab just cause they are so open, same goes for those nook colors.

Vintage144 said:
It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!
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You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.

Cactus42 said:
You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.
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LOL - that was exactly was I was thinking after reading the first post. I have got a Desire and rooted it with goldcard etc. - long before the newer and way easier methods were developed.
Yesterday I got my Iconia 501 with Stock HC 3.2 on it and rooting it was a real breeze

Seriously? Near impossible to root? This guy must be slow, because this was just insanely easy... been rooted for months and tried nearly every rom at least once, all easy as pie.

germanhoss said:
LOL - that was exactly was I was thinking after reading the first post. I have got a Desire and rooted it with goldcard etc. - long before the newer and way easier methods were developed.
Yesterday I got my Iconia 501 with Stock HC 3.2 on it and rooting it was a real breeze
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Same thing with the original mytouch. I had to use a gold card and there were no less than 3 times during the process that i thought i had bricked it. i may be permanently scarred.
There have been many times i have rooted other devices including the iconia that i went searching for more steps because it was too easy.

ya i have the Desire S too and waited for ages for it to be rooted, the Iconia only took me a few minutes, don't really see what the difficulty is, thought this was an old thread haha

ne too lol i was like...all i did was install an app, go to recovery, and flash rom ( give or take a few steps) and i did that the day i got it (sept 2011) and it took a few a mins, this thread confused the heck outta me lol
psycho_somatic said:
ya i have the Desire S too and waited for ages for it to be rooted, the Iconia only took me a few minutes, don't really see what the difficulty is, thought this was an old thread haha
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Cactus42 said:
You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.
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Hello there... one day I found my camera lense cracked and I sent it in for repair. upon return it had 3.2 on it (my icona a500) since then I have not found a way to root 3.2. I have looked on the threads and until your comment I havent found a way to root 3.2. Would you be so kind as to pm me or post the thread link here please? Its laggy as hell on stock and I want to root and get rid of the bloat ware. Thanks!!

lanisan said:
Hello there... one day I found my camera lense cracked and I sent it in for repair. upon return it had 3.2 on it (my icona a500) since then I have not found a way to root 3.2. I have looked on the threads and until your comment I havent found a way to root 3.2. Would you be so kind as to pm me or post the thread link here please? Its laggy as hell on stock and I want to root and get rid of the bloat ware. Thanks!!
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A member since 2007 and you cannot find a way to root your acer, you either don't read at all or don't understand what you are reading.. any one that really need to root their acer already did so including myself....

When is there going to be something flashable in this thread
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BrianDigital said:
When is there going to be something flashable in this thread
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When you learn to find it and come and post it here? It's pretty well documented, and other than the crap threads that get posted in here like this one, pretty well organized.

tumpy said:
A member since 2007 and you cannot find a way to root your acer, you either don't read at all or don't understand what you are reading.. any one that really need to root their acer already did so including myself....
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1136 right here it is 3hreadsown from this one. Giggles even a blonde can find it
This is inbwrong thread sorry for my post all

I rooted my tablet right after I got it in May. Then when the 3.2 update came out, I went back to stock unrooted and ran that way until this morning when I realized I wanted to change my navigation buttons. Downgraded, rooted, installed CWM and flashed the rooted stock 3.2 and was back in business in like 20 minutes maybe. Would've been done quicker, but I had to pause to make some more coffee. Didn't even lose any of my data or apps. I don't know how you measure easy, but by my measure, its a cake walk. A cake walk where you actually win cake, instead of awkwardly shuffling around in a circle with strangers thinking that if you win it might all be worth it, only to have some snot nosed little turd walk away with the very cake you wanted, and you go home and weep gently into your pillow because you never win, and no one ever seems to see that all you want is to be loved, oh God, why can't someone just love you...sorry I digress.

lol i rooted mine like the first 15 minutes that it was out of the box. I don't like not overclocking

Vintage144 said:
It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!
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And this thread belongs in the DEV area.
Mods must be on Thanksgiving break already

Back to the OT! Did Acer Kill the Iconia?
Here it is.... Plain and simple.... Acer is killing the the Iconia since they are taking their time to produce good accessories for it. Also, what were they thinking in giving the power adapter such a short cord?
Other than that.... I love my A500, and would not mind upgrading to a the Tegra3 version.

[Discussion] [WIP] ICS Port

This is discussion thread for PaulBurton's ICS 4.0.x Port.
This is a Discussion Thread About the DEV Thread:WIP ICS PORT
Before We start to discuss i will tell what's working in the latest release *20120201*
Even tough the build is still in Alpha/Beta stage the build is extremely fast, even if all HW/3D Acceleration isn't activated also the driver's for the Tegra2 Isn't fully working! but still the build answer's fast and do the most things you tell it to do!
*Working* (Updated 2012-02-11)
Touchscreen
Sound
Wifi
Bluetooth
Deep Sleep
Headset
GPS On Location
GAPP'S
SU *Fixed*
Battery Indicator*
HDMI Out
Dock Station*
*Doesn't Work*
Rotation*
Microphone*
Camera
Full 3D*
Full HW*
Video Playback
*Latest Build -Battery Indicator-* Partitionaly working*
There you go atleast this is what i know what works and what doesn't!
Even if THOOSE Stuffs Doesn't Work, What can you say about the work so far?
IS it good, Bad, Amazing, or what is your expression!?
Please Hit The Thank's Button On Hes Port Project, as he's mostly doing this Alone and he also do it with much more closed source's!

Earlier Releases
20120201 - NvFlash or CWM
Suspend improvements, now uses LP0, but still likes waking itself up
Backlight fixed
Storage settings no longer crashes
USB device improvements, MTP indicator etc
USB drives & micro SD cards mount, images visible in gallery etc.
CWM update zip now just writes everything as a blob, should avoid all previous zip-related problems
Graphics drivers updated to those from nVidia’s ventana devkit ICS release
Includes Google apps
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20120121 - NvFlash or CWM
Suspend improvements (still needs work)
Headphones should work properly
Improve CWM update zip to cope with mounted /data
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20120112 - NvFlash or CWM CWM, CWM mirror
Initial audio support (still needs work)
Bluetooth working
WiFi MAC address fixed
Rooted
USB fixes
Include a CWM update zip version (be careful, remember only use if you can flash back honeycomb)
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20120110
Using a 2.6.39 kernel
Orientation defaulting to landscape
RAM size fixed
Hopefully fix suspend
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20120106
Fixed WiFi
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20120105
Initial build
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I think the battery indicator has a glitch that *Detection* has a temporary fix for. However, even partly broken, the ROM is fantastic. I would like to use it as a daily. I'm just not going to jump the gun on it. I'd like to see a little more in the configurable option department, like a reboot to recovery option in the shutdown menu. Removing the Phone.apk and Telephony.apk also. No real need for them as we stand. That's my 2 pennies so far. But, Paul has really gotten far for such a short time, and I'm excited to see where he takes it.
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Sharpe351 said:
I think the battery indicator has a glitch that *Detection* has a temporary fix for. However, even partly broken, the ROM is fantastic. I would like to use it as a daily. I'm just not going to jump the gun on it. I'd like to see a little more in the configurable option department, like a reboot to recovery option in the shutdown menu. Removing the Phone.apk and Telephony.apk also. No real need for them as we stand. That's my 2 pennies so far. But, Paul has really gotten far for such a short time, and I'm excited to see where he takes it.
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i can sure do indeed , we can use it for daily use, but thats not the best to do atm, but he sure works fast for being alone
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Do you think it would be safe for a late model B70 sbk2? I've seen the warnings but i really wanna try it. Caution vs curiosity. I know it's a stupid risk to take with the official ICS just around the corner. What do you guys think?

Dreamboxuser said:
Do you think it would be safe for a late model B70 sbk2? I've seen the warnings but i really wanna try it. Caution vs curiosity. I know it's a stupid risk to take with the official ICS just around the corner. What do you guys think?
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well, if you got a backup you can try the ics , as it can be done for daily use, but its not recomened. if you want to try make sure you got a working backup, also if you restore honeycomb after tested ics, you need to flash a HC kernel
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Dreamboxuser said:
Do you think it would be safe for a late model B70 sbk2? I've seen the warnings but i really wanna try it. Caution vs curiosity. I know it's a stupid risk to take with the official ICS just around the corner. What do you guys think?
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Risky considering you have no nvflash recovery should anything go wrong.
If you find you have no root / access to CWM you would be basically screwed.
I would listen to your sensible you this time and wait, yes it is bad having to wait, but worse if you brick your tablet.
ICS is nice, fast, but that soon fades with the current suspend / wifi bugs, I would advise waiting

Agreed. I've been in plenty of situations where CWM has saved me and always restored without a problem. It's just a shame i am not able to see the progress as it is happening and I can't be one of those people in the dev thread saying any updates?

Dreamboxuser said:
Agreed. I've been in plenty of situations where CWM has saved me and always restored without a problem. It's just a shame i am not able to see the progress as it is happening and I can't be one of those people in the dev thread saying any updates?
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The main thing is the kernal. Paul uses a different kernal to get ICS to function more smoothly. In the realm of sbk2, my main concern would be that NVflash doesn't work... and if something goes wrong, you are left with a really expensive coaster. With the rate that Paul has put out updates, it should be no time until we see a daily out of this.
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Oh well at least my concerns were justified. Although i would like to add
Any updates?????
i wanna play too.

Dreamboxuser said:
Oh well at least my concerns were justified. Although i would like to add
Any updates?????
i wanna play too.
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Asking for updates is like asking for an eta..don't do that. These guys are doing this on their own time, it is disrespectful to be impatient.
And fyi guys, i have a B70 if it roots with razor claw and can install cwm, and as long as you don't flash over your recovery you should be able to rescue any bad rom/kernel flash. I guess if my recovery went screwy i would be SOL but so far I've not had a problem. Be patient, and check and double check every step.
Did you wipe dalvik? Factory reset? Better make sure before you flash that rom and do an md5 before you flash any recovery to be sure it didn't corrupt in the meantime..if you are really careful, patient, and read a lot, and i mean A LOT, before you flash you can get away with flashing an sbk2 safely. If on the other hand, you've never flashed anything before, and don't know EXACTLY what you are doing, then i wouldn't risk it.
Paul's ICS is great progress, but unfortunately far from being just a novelty due to the bugginess and loss of functions. I played with it for about 5 minutes before I decided it wasn't ready for prime time and went back to revolver
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The main thing is the kernal. Paul uses a different kernal to get ICS to function more smoothly. In the realm of sbk2, my main concern would be that NVflash doesn't work... and if something goes wrong, you are left with a really expensive coaster. With the rate that Paul has put out updates, it should be no time until we see a daily out of this.
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Btw it's kernel with an "e"

luna_c666 said:
Asking for updates is like asking for an eta..don't do that. These guys are doing this on their own time, it is disrespectful to be impatient.
And fyi guys, i have a B70 if it roots with razor claw and can install cwm, and as long as you don't flash over your recovery you should be able to rescue any bad rom/kernel flash. I guess if my recovery went screwy i would be SOL but so far I've not had a problem. Be patient, and check and double check every step.
Did you wipe dalvik? Factory reset? Better make sure before you flash that rom and do an md5 before you flash any recovery to be sure it didn't corrupt in the meantime..if you are really careful, patient, and read a lot, and i mean A LOT, before you flash you can get away with flashing an sbk2 safely. If on the other hand, you've never flashed anything before, and don't know EXACTLY what you are doing, then i wouldn't risk it.
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Btw it's kernel with an "e"
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Ok luna... with an "e". lol...
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Dreamboxuser said:
Oh well at least my concerns were justified. Although i would like to add
Any updates?????
i wanna play too.
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read second post or go to dev thread it should be no problem flash this for me (it's not for me) and i got a Sbkv2 and i can always restore to HC!

luna_c666 said:
Asking for updates is like asking for an eta..don't do that. These guys are doing this on their own time, it is disrespectful to be impatient.
And fyi guys, i have a B70 if it roots with razor claw and can install cwm, and as long as you don't flash over your recovery you should be able to rescue any bad rom/kernel flash. I guess if my recovery went screwy i would be SOL but so far I've not had a problem. Be patient, and check and double check every step.
Did you wipe dalvik? Factory reset? Better make sure before you flash that rom and do an md5 before you flash any recovery to be sure it didn't corrupt in the meantime..if you are really careful, patient, and read a lot, and i mean A LOT, before you flash you can get away with flashing an sbk2 safely. If on the other hand, you've never flashed anything before, and don't know EXACTLY what you are doing, then i wouldn't risk it.
Paul's ICS is great progress, but unfortunately far from being just a novelty due to the bugginess and loss of functions. I played with it for about 5 minutes before I decided it wasn't ready for prime time and went back to revolver
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Btw it's kernel with an "e"
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about asking for ETA doesn't meen your disrespectall ful, look at all the ICS questions that asus got, its not disrespectful, you ask's for something that is good to know when you can be able to prepare to leave Honeycomb and go to ICS. but in this case Paul is almost alone working on this. and i can see that asking ETA when he does this on freetime will make it much more harder to set a date! SO asking ETA Isn't Mean. you really show that something is wanted and can give the OP both glad and angry moment's......
Anyhow. The Work goes amazingly fast forward, i wish i had his schills

LastStandingDroid said:
about asking for ETA doesn't meen your disrespectall ful, look at all the ICS questions that asus got, its not disrespectful, you ask's for something that is good to know when you can be able to prepare to leave Honeycomb and go to ICS. but in this case Paul is almost alone working on this. and i can see that asking ETA when he does this on freetime will make it much more harder to set a date! SO asking ETA Isn't Mean. you really show that something is wanted and can give the OP both glad and angry moment's......
Anyhow. The Work goes amazingly fast forward, i wish i had his schills
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You do realize asking Asus for an eta, when they are a company selling a product, and asking developers who are working for free in their own time, are not the same thing right?
Read the rules. It says pretty explicitly.. Do not ask for eta's.

Well the ETA thing was a joke simply because every third post in the dev thread is got an ETA. Don't let the lack of posts fool you I have been around the block a few times. Also if I hadn't been reading I wouldn't have known that it was not recommend to install on sbk2 devices.
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luna_c666 said:
You do realize asking Asus for an eta, when they are a company selling a product, and asking developers who are working for free in their own time, are not the same thing right?
Read the rules. It says pretty explicitly.. Do not ask for eta's.
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Help me out..... where does it say no etas? Serious question.... thnx

I think what the last post referred to is when you pay for a service it's ok to ask them(ASUS) for an ETA but when devs here (Xda) do it for nothing more than street cred, fun, or cause they want to it is not cool to ask for an ETA.
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slopokdave said:
Help me out..... where does it say no etas? Serious question.... thnx
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Ok, it isn't as explicit as I thought, but it has been pounded into my head because it's been repeated so many times over and over..
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376759
And Here; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081035
OBKING77's video cites it here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzpixaIOwSg
This part IS in the guide (though not in the rules);
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
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I've just read it so many times it's become a 'rule' in my head. Sorry I was not accurate when stating it was 'explicit in the rules'. But it is a matter of respect for the devs

I wonder if we could do a tally and see how many posts on xda are actually people asking for updates or etas? Probably be in the thousands if not more.
Anyways back on topic.... sorry about that i thought that the implication that it was a joke was pretty clear in the previous message.
So i do think i will try ICS out after i do my backups. I suppose as a trial it will be good.

Will this root method work?

http://www.ibtimes.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-gt-i9505-featuring-qualcomm-snapdragon-600-processor-gets-rooted-successfully
If not let me know what you need devs and ill be happy to assist when i get my s4 tomorrow.

fix-this! said:
http://www.ibtimes.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-gt-i9505-featuring-qualcomm-snapdragon-600-processor-gets-rooted-successfully
If not let me know what you need devs and ill be happy to assist when i get my s4 tomorrow.
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Agreed...I have my S4 in hand now and am happy to help...need root and need a wifi tethering option that works. PM me and let me know if you need log files or what...

Agreed, we all need to pitch in. Weird as im not seeing any devs yet?

fix-this! said:
http://www.ibtimes.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-gt-i9505-featuring-qualcomm-snapdragon-600-processor-gets-rooted-successfully
If not let me know what you need devs and ill be happy to assist when i get my s4 tomorrow.
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I was going to try this, but I got worried that I would brick my new phone when I saw the firmware is different. Chainfire's method uses XXUAMD2 firmware. My Build Number is JDQ39.I337UCUAMDB. It is close, but not the same.

rsmolen said:
I was going to try this, but I got worried that I would brick my new phone when I saw the firmware is different. Chainfire's method uses XXUAMD2 firmware. My Build Number is JDQ39.I337UCUAMDB. It is close, but not the same.
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Yeah i saw that to. Someone on android central insisted it would work. Thats why i posted it here.

fix-this! said:
Yeah i saw that to. Someone on android central insisted it would work. Thats why i posted it here.
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they want someone stupid to try it out instead of them and report their success or failure first lol

im sure most people dont even have this phone yet because its not out. Mine does not arrive till tommorow

I thoiught I saw a post in the Development thread that this method does not work - I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure that is the case, unfortunately. I have faith that Chainfire of someone will get us rooted soon enough - (hell, I don't even have my S4 yet - won't arrive until tomorrow
But - Unless I had seen someone else had successfully rooted using any method, I do not think I would even think about being the first one to try it. lol

How long before the AT&T source code is released? We should be able to get a work around once we have that.

This will be my first Android phone that didn't have root before it was released, and I've bought nearly all of them on release date, taken it home, and rooted it before doing anything! I won't be selling my SIII right away since it looks like I'll be using it until we get a successful root out of this sucker....
Getting mine on Saturday if all goes to plans, willing to help test as well! I have 60 days to return it if it breaks, hahah

KryptosXLayer2 said:
This will be my first Android phone that didn't have root before it was released, and I've bought nearly all of them on release date, taken it home, and rooted it before doing anything! I won't be selling my SIII right away since it looks like I'll be using it until we get a successful root out of this sucker....
Getting mine on Saturday if all goes to plans, willing to help test as well! I have 60 days to return it if it breaks, hahah
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Yea i can't officially switch till root. S4 just arrived. Will see if I can get some root on here.

Just got mine an hour ago. Apparently, thanks to AT&T, the bootloader is locked, which could complicate the root method considerably