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Hi, I'm looking for the best fast and stable ROM right now.
Cyanogen is definitely not on the list. Since he started mixing in eclair (and stopped releasing separate stable and bet builds) all his releases have really been beta-releases, and not stable one. Especially the missed SMS/background process bug disqualifies it on its own, and it is aslo slower(!) than the eclair roms, t.e.x OpenEclair.
Eclair builds are also not on the list. Right now I want something that "just work", and until video camera and video playback is working (eg. when we get drivers) I will keep testing them , but want something different for everyday use.
It is important that it has a serious dev who listens to bug reports (an issue tracker would be a big plus), and builds from source, or at least tests properly, and not some new (or old) hotshot who just slaps different stuff from different sources together and hope they work.
So, anyone have a favorite you think suits me?
edit: A good chabgelog/specification of what is actually in the ROM is *mandatory*. I really hate looking at a ROM thread and wondering "And wtf is in this?"
Post in Q&A section next time, and try Dwang's ROM I haven't used it yet, but people that have used it say it's fast.
Why should this be in Q&A instead of general? (Almost) Every thread in general is a question about something or the other.
Try WG-Build 2.6 for a day or so.
theofficials, or the vodafone port with htc features (15th feb version) imo are the fastest, although blandest
This discussion is pointless and it keeps repeating over an over again.
Anyway, my two cents: CM is and will be the best ROM because it has a right balance of speed vs stability. I've tried other "super-fast" ROMs and they all are too unstable - shut downs randomly, force closes, etc.
fasttest without ramhack without issues and force close s. What else would you want
anything that starts with fast or super.....are a +1
after that the only thing that can fall in category would be:
WG Build Y-2.6 (as mentioned above)
and if you can get your hands on a copy Wg's 10.2 is great!
As far as the CM roms go....I'd suggest his older builds 4.2.7.1 and 4.3 to be exact...their outdated but still wonderful, you can port any new apps or framework into if ya don't want to feel left behind.
Super D is blazing fast for me
FastTest v2.7 CustomLite (http://bit.ly/dcLg31)
and
FastClean 1.4 (http://bit.ly/ahf8Gy)
The fastest/most responsive ROMs I've ever used. FastTest is a dark themed SuperD and FastClean is a vanilla rom, both are the same speed IMO.
I was a cyan fan but super D is just stupid fast. I push my home key and my home screen is there within 1/2 a second.
Karolis said:
Anyway, my two cents: CM is and will be the best ROM because it has a right balance of speed vs stability. I've tried other "super-fast" ROMs and they all are too unstable - shut downs randomly, force closes, etc.
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+1.
100% agreed.
The only balance between speed and stability in CM is that it is both unstable and slow. Take a look at this bug for example. Many of the issues that were caused by and consollidated into this bug goes way back.
A stable ROM doesn't loose loads of text and other notifications. CM is not stable, nor has it been since cyanogen started mixing in eclair, and stopped release separate stable and beta builds.
All his builds since then has been laggy and unstable - unless you have a N1, which development effort is currently, and fully understandably, consentrated upon. Seriously, just stop recomending it to anyone. For all the good cyanogen has brought G1 users, his ROM is currently, or at least up until january when I last tried it a POS. And it showed no signs of getting better, either.
Many thanks for the tip about TheOfficials ROMs. Running the ADP based with expansion pack now. It flies, and has been 100% stable th 24hrs I've used it so far. Abduction lags a bit when I run Spotify at the same time and syncing kicks in, but thats to be expected on a Dream.
Will have this as a solid, reliable fallback, eve though I will still probably try other (like the latest OE when they fix BT.)
Thanks for the other tips as well.
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The only balance between speed and stability in CM is that it is both unstable and slow. Take a look at this bug for example. Many of the issues that were caused by and consollidated into this bug goes way back.
A stable ROM doesn't loose loads of text and other notifications. CM is not stable, nor has it been since cyanogen started mixing in eclair, and stopped release separate stable and beta builds.
All his builds since then has been laggy and unstable - unless you have a N1, which development effort is currently, and fully understandably, consentrated upon. Seriously, just stop recomending it to anyone. For all the good cyanogen has brought G1 users, his ROM is currently, or at least up until january when I last tried it a POS. And it showed no signs of getting better, either.
Many thanks for the tip about TheOfficials ROMs. Running the ADP based with expansion pack now. It flies, and has been 100% stable th 24hrs I've used it so far. Abduction lags a bit when I run Spotify at the same time and syncing kicks in, but thats to be expected on a Dream.
Will have this as a solid, reliable fallback, eve though I will still probably try other (like the latest OE when they fix BT.)
Thanks for the other tips as well.
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THe fastest Cyan is 4.2.5 and the current ones are slower than that, I don't use Cyan much I prefer Super-D and Enom's official too.I only used Cyan twice and probably won't be using it again on the Magic, maybe on the N1 though.
im using SuperD, and it is crazy fast. most responsive android rom ever used.
Mghty Max ROM
I'm running Mghty Max's ROM and is very fast and stable I've tried. I haven't had any FC or shutdowns. Very responsive too (I have activated these widgets: calendar, clock & weather, WiFi OnOff, Music, Handcent SMS, Volume Control), even when I'm on WiFi. I Highly recommend it.
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im using SuperD, and it is crazy fast. most responsive android rom ever used.
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Same here... i was a staunch CM flasher... but they seemed to get slow after he got the Nexus One.
I'm happy with SuperD right now... especially with the JIT hack.
i just tried all of them
here's my quick review of all four. Firstly I think they're all really pretty great and far better than we ought to have on the hero.
I found froyd 1.1.9 to be less finished than the other two using today's builds, but that makes sense. froyd 1.1.1 was quite finished, 1.1.9 is prerelease and uses very bleeding edge previously little tested kernels and other files.
I found froyd to be very unstable during first and second run, had lots of little issues and even reset itself once. BUT after that it started running properly. also the 1.1 kernel improved things some, and the 1.2 kernel did seem to fix the crazy clock. Some things were amazing - like how fast it played demanding 3d games. other things were subpar, like app compatibility, app installability, gallery3d, and just simple finished-ness. that last point is to be expected though.
I found fusion to be, well fusion. at times I've thought it was best. right now I'm not so in love with it but it's a really good product. I don't really love the aosp-ness of it though, but I admire the dev's work and his decisions along the way. it's very good and totally road worthy.
cronos as it's also really finished and seems to run faster in general use than froyd yet has more of the features I want than fusion does. Also every app I throw at it works and it's super stable and reliable. and it's still nice and quick for 3d gaming etc.
FROYO_2.2_elelinux_v1.2 just flashed and its Awsome its gona be tight idk i will review it more when i come back from =) DW =)
thanks, nice quick and to the point, i was gonna try cronos froyo anyway but good to hear the opinion of someone who's tried all three.
first of all, this is in the wrong section.
second, i have tried the latest builds of chronos or fusion, but im running froyodvillain, and its great, really fast, stable, no fc's after flashing correctly, im really looking forward to 1.2
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first of all, this is in the wrong section.
second, i have tried the latest builds of chronos or fusion, but im running froyodvillain, and its great, really fast, stable, no fc's after flashing correctly, im really looking forward to 1.2
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well i had a lot of fc from launcher,setting,wifi stoped working,usb
I think this should be understood as an IMHO sort of post by the author of this thread.
here's my quick review of all three. Firstly I think they're all really pretty great and far better than we ought to have on the hero.
I found froyd 1.1.9 to be less finished than the other two using today's builds, but that makes sense. froyd 1.1.1 was quite finished, 1.1.9 is prerelease and uses very bleeding edge previously little tested kernels and other files.
I found froyd to be very unstable during first and second run, had lots of little issues and even reset itself once. BUT after that it started running properly. also the 1.1 kernel improved things some, and the 1.2 kernel did seem to fix the crazy clock. Some things were amazing - like how fast it played demanding 3d games. other things were subpar, like app compatibility, app installability, gallery3d, and just simple finished-ness. that last point is to be expected though.
I found fusion to be, well fusion. at times I've thought it was best. right now I'm not so in love with it but it's a really good product. I don't really love the aosp-ness of it though, but I admire the dev's work and his decisions along the way. it's very good and totally road worthy.
My pref is cronos (As per my signature) as it's also really finished and seems to run faster in general use than froyd yet has more of the features I want than fusion does. Also every app I throw at it works and it's super stable and reliable. and it's still nice and quick for 3d gaming etc.
but yes, maybe this should be moved to a different area?
i think it is in proper place, as a user experience of roms. dev section is imo better than general hero discussion, as a feedback to devs and other ppl that're looking for best choice, bcause it is strictly about rom releases, not general bout device.
what i can say - since ninpo's 1.2 kernel, froyd 1.1.9 is a damn good product (probably further more we will get in froyd 1.2, but whatever will be - will be).
after proper flashing (with wipe of absolutely everything), it is extremely stable. no fc's, speed really impressive, great compatibility etc... also 3d is cracking!
(had the same issue with unstability and fc's, when flashed without wipe ext, also was much slower than now, after full wipe).
and what is probably best - again teamvillain was absolutely first with new updates (camera etc), other roms are always couple of days after TV.
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i think it is in proper place, as a user experience of roms. dev section is imo better than general hero discussion, as a feedback to devs and other ppl that're looking for best choice, bcause it is strictly about rom releases, not general bout device.
what i can say - since ninpo's 1.2 kernel, froyd 1.1.9 is a damn good product (probably further more we will get in froyd 1.2, but whatever will be - will be).
after proper flashing (with wipe of absolutely everything), it is extremely stable. no fc's, speed really impressive, great compatibility etc... also 3d is cracking!
(had the same issue with unstability and fc's, when flashed without wipe ext, also was much slower than now, after full wipe).
and what is probably best - again teamvillain was absolutely first with new updates (camera etc), other roms are always couple of days after TV.
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I always wipe fully before flashing, it wasn't that causing the issues. I was one of the first to download it, could be the original 1.0 kernel that I flashed after the rom before first boot, but it wasn't user error. However as noted it improved dramatically after the first couple of hours of use, flashing further kernels increased stability eventually too.
it wasn't as peppy in the user interface though, and I actually find that the other devs have more frequent updates than team villain does, but they all update quite effectively.
Villain's an effective group - no doubt about it. I actually found 1.1.1 to have the best battery life of all the froyos, so it will be fun to see what happens over the next little while!
Moved to general with expiring redirect in place. Dev is really only for technical development of new roms.
This thread has remained very civil, so credit to you guys. Let's keep it that way. A lot of rom comparison threads turn to flames, let's make this one the exception.
Also, anyone wanting to flame here, don't. Treat this as your warning not to.
Thanks.
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i think it is in proper place, as a user experience of roms. dev section is imo better than general hero discussion, as a feedback to devs and other ppl that're looking for best choice, bcause it is strictly about rom releases, not general bout device.
what i can say - since ninpo's 1.2 kernel, froyd 1.1.9 is a damn good product (probably further more we will get in froyd 1.2, but whatever will be - will be).
after proper flashing (with wipe of absolutely everything), it is extremely stable. no fc's, speed really impressive, great compatibility etc... also 3d is cracking!
(had the same issue with unstability and fc's, when flashed without wipe ext, also was much slower than now, after full wipe).
and what is probably best - again teamvillain was absolutely first with new updates (camera etc), other roms are always couple of days after TV.
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The kernel works great on 1.1.1 too
Just a fyi
I had some trouble with my alarm... gonna see if it works tomorrow, otherwise I'll be late for work. Other than that, it's just great.
CM6.1 or MIUI (probably Rod's).
I do like the look of MIUI but I'd rather have the fastest, most stable setup and one with the greatest functionality.
These are both looking very good indeed these days.
So which one and why?
try them both a decide for yourself that's what its all about...you r just gonna get back and forth comments/bickering asking a question like that in here..try searching next time
Enomther's The Official.
Stock, all sorts of optional features, easiest method ever for enabling apps2ext, and stable
how can u go wrong
You won't get many replies.
WHY?
Everyone will most likely tell you to just try it yourself.
Every ROM in my sig has proven to be stable. I like to try different ones out.
As long as you are rooted, and have a custom recovery installed, nothing is stopping you from doing a nandroid backup and playing with a new ROM.
"fastest, most stable setup and one with the greatest functionality."
That's all up to you. What you may consider "greatest functionality" may be bloat to someone else.
Personally, I really liked MIUI by Rodriquez.
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Enomther's The Official.
Stock, all sorts of optional features, easiest method ever for enabling apps2ext, and stable
how can u go wrong
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Tried that ROM myself for a couple of days during the week. Love the FM Radio and features. But stable? Meh. I suffered apps closing/crashing unexpectedly throughout the day. Stable it wasn't.
If you want super stable, then GEO's ROM is superb. Only downside is no FM Radio.
Just my personal experience.
why not cm 6 R2 ? (or nightlys)
If you want my personal opinion (other than 'try them out for yourself), MIUI is great because of all of the interface tweaks. The lockscreen is gorgeous, the theming capability is awesome, and the settings UI is awesome.
I've been more than pleased with Kang-o-rama 1.0 b1. It's a build of CM6 RC1 with a handful of graphical niceties and solid Apps2ext functionality. The support the author provides is incredible as well. I try a lot of other ROMs, but that's the one I keep coming back to.
But as the others have said, try them all and make up your own damn mind. What one person loves about a ROM might be another person's pet peeve.
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Tried that ROM myself for a couple of days during the week. Love the FM Radio and features. But stable? Meh. I suffered apps closing/crashing unexpectedly throughout the day. Stable it wasn't.
If you want super stable, then GEO's ROM is superb. Only downside is no FM Radio.
Just my personal experience.
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Geo's ROM's are great, I had one for quite a while. I don't know why you're getting issues with Enom's ROM, but it is very very stable. That's the reason people who use it, use it over CM. My uptime on my phone gets up to 100 hours without any force closes or issues, and even then it's me, I'm just flashing something else or changing a feature which requires reboot.
Geo's roms have been light, fast & very stable for me!
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I've been more than pleased with Kang-o-rama 1.0 b1. It's a build of CM6 RC1 with a handful of graphical niceties and solid Apps2ext functionality. The support the author provides is incredible as well. I try a lot of other ROMs, but that's the one I keep coming back to.
But as the others have said, try them all and make up your own damn mind. What one person loves about a ROM might be another person's pet peeve.
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Yes, I love Kang-o-rama
Well I tried the MIUI one (Rod's) and it just rebooted on me for no reason today.
Looks like it's CM6.1 next for me.
I was using Geo's then I got a message saying it wanted to do an update, then failed, but I could not get rid of that message.
Perhaps I should have got a Desire as I do like Sense, but the Sense ROM for the N1 was not stable IMO.
I'm using Rod's MIUIMOD 1.9.1(with wildmonks kernel) and never had a single reboot or stability problem.
Also, i've tried Enomther and MicroMOD's(also the Desire SuperHybrid) ROMs, and they were stable for me.
If all were unstable in your case, then maybe you're doing something wrong.
Did you for example wipe three times from recovery before flashing a completely different ROM?
In the past i've also had stability problems when using titanium backup to restore settings, so keep that in mind.
Also, you could try to use different kernel with somewhat higher voltage ( wildmonks for example http://wildmonks.whoisthedrizzle.com/kernel/2.6.35/112610/Custom_Kernels/ ).
Most ROM"s use kernel which are slightly under-volted to increase battery life(1050mv is the default stock kernel voltage if I remember correctly), but some devices don't like the lower voltages.
Should be clear, I never tried the ones you mentioned, it was the NXsense one I tried - it had a few silly little bugs but nothing major, just enough to be somewhat annoying.
Yes I do wipe, and am using the wildmonks kernel now.
I'm using stock MIUI with english pack and in my opinion...is more stable and smoother than CM 6.1... I check out CM rom yesterday and the ADW launcher still sucks..and Launcher Pro haven't adjust very well with some of the new effects and setting that CM have put in...my opinion MIUI stock..(not Rods Rom) with english pack...way better for now...and if you are a Launcher Pro fan...works awesome with MIUI....just my opinion
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IMHO:
MIUI, although a great show of design/function ingenuity, is a toy. It's a pretty, flashy toy. It's filled with stuff, and design is confusing. Everything's all over the place, there's too many features (yeah, I know, crazy) and too much stuff going on.
CM6.1, besides being more stable (majority would agree), it's android as google meant it. It's pristine, clean and just looking at it makes u feel confident in its stability. It's simple, yet advanced. Fast, yet reliable.
I definitely recommend CM over MIUI, but, of course, it's all individual prefs.
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If you want my personal opinion (other than 'try them out for yourself), MIUI is great because of all of the interface tweaks. The lockscreen is gorgeous, the theming capability is awesome, and the settings UI is awesome.
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Why is the theming awesome? I have yet to see a MIUI theme that themed the whole ROM. The ugly dialer, MMS and Contacts app are always left out. Most of the themes are just icons and wallpaper.
As to the UI if it is so great why do most use Launcher Pro with it. To me... JMHO it looks like Windows 3.1 with a splash of color
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IMHO:
MIUI, although a great show of design/function ingenuity, is a toy. It's a pretty, flashy toy. It's filled with stuff, and design is confusing. Everything's all over the place, there's too many features (yeah, I know, crazy) and too much stuff going on.
CM6.1, besides being more stable (majority would agree), it's android as google meant it. It's pristine, clean and just looking at it makes u feel confident in its stability. It's simple, yet advanced. Fast, yet reliable.
I definitely recommend CM over MIUI, but, of course, it's all individual prefs.
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Yup!
Windows 3.1 with a bunch of apps that look like the team never had a meeting
Definitely enomther's the official.
Tried CM, was ok, a tad unstable at times and I'm not a nightly person. If you want a rom to use for at least a month, don't use something that doesn't have a Final build and has to undergo nightly revisions. I got sick of having to flash CM everytime a nightly comes out.
I dislike MIUI. Enough said. Up to personal preference. Really dislike the iphoney crap.
If you want a somewhat stable sense rom, I recommend Evil's NXSense.
Like most others here have said, you gotta try them out to decide.
I originally tried a bunch of Roms and didn't like all the "bloat". I settled on Geo's rom because it basically is a pre-rooted and ready to go stock rom with some little bonuses.
After a while I tried MIUI's because of the newer UI. I quickly lost interest with the quirky lockscreen, phone, and messaging apps. I used Launcher Pro as I hate the cluttered iPhone desktop. Dialer Oned out the phone from the same lack of dial-by name and quirky facebook intergration. I tried Stock MIUI and Rods (I liked Rods).
Then I settled on CM6.1 which had the nice customizable dropdown menu toggles, taskbar color modifications, and additional features that were available.
Since I've seen the new MIUI theming capabilities but I don't think I'm quite ready to switch from CM's. I use the nightlies now and I'm now using a lot of the tweaks that I know I will ultimately regret on other roms.
But this is the perk of a Nexus. I just download and keep a bunch of roms on my phone's SD card... able to switch to whatever in minutes. Thus don't be afraid to do the same.
Also what I've learned is that no matter what rom you use, once you install Dialer One and Launcher Pro... they all feel the same aside from the little perks one may offer over the other.
I decided to flash cm-6.1.2 a few nights ago to remind myself why I flashed CM7 (stable and nightly) to begin with. What did CM6 lack that forced me to upgrade to CM7--nothing. Like most users, probably just wanted to see what all the hype was about.
I have to say that after spending a few days with CM6.1.2/SCB kernel, don't seem to be in a hurry to flash back to CM7. Everything; GPS, works! Camera? meh... it'll pass, still twitchy but CM7's is not much better. At least on my phone, signal strength? better that with CM7 and a few other things that just seem to work better, Pandora, music.. I won't go into more detail.
The best thing is that I'm not spending so much time patching CM7 to make it work as well as CM6 seems to--of course all this is on my phone, your mileage may vary. Keep in mind that I try many, many combinations of kernels, radios--like most people on this forum, I'm always tinkering.
So... did most of us switch to CM7 because...? it's newer? the slick black (boring to me) interface? Or I wonder what I'm doing wrong with CM7 because I removed it from my NOOK Color and replaced with MN 4.6.16.
What's everyone so impressed about CM7 that I'm just not getting? (that's two devices)
I've recently done the same as you and also wondered why more people aren't still using cm6...
I never left cm6, although my flavor of choice is 6.1. Like you, I have tried every combination of new rom, kernel, etc ... but my daily driver continues to be 6.1. I have attached Brad Carter's (bcnice20) "BCBlend" kernel ... try it and you will see a rom and browser fly, like nothing else. No reboots, no lag, just android at it best.
PS - I use the interactive governor along with launcher pro ... excellent performance and good battery life.
Hello,
I want to ask you just like it's mentioned in the thread title, is CM10 worth to install right now? Are the differences big between CM9 and CM10?
I am currently on CM9 latest nightly from Epsylon. And whose CM10 is better for now? Epsylon's or Quarx's?
Thanks in advance for answering...
Hi there,
Yes the current CM10 is quite stable and very usable.
The biggest attraction to CM10 is how smooth it is over the current CM9 - Installing Apex Launcher makes it even better.
The new features that were introduced as part of JB are all there and functioning .. eg. two finger swipe and Project Butter.
The JB default browser is the best and responsive browser I have ever used .. flick-scrolls through heavy pages effortlessly ..
I am using the Froyo based build right now though I have a Red lens defy.
Personally I couldnt last on CM9 for more than a day before switching back to MIUI ..
but now i'm hooked on the CM10 and even the dev are focussing all their attention on it..
in short -- most definitely worth the Install
About JB - Only basic things are functioning properly. But, if you ask me, i am using it as my daily ROM, as i use my defy as a phone
About ICS - Its almost fully functional, you won't feel like changing ROM after using it.
Thanks a lot guys. Downloading CM10 then...
I will wait a few more weeks so it's more stable. Satisfied with CM9 right now. (I'm always using Quarx' builds, Defy+)
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i am using it as my daily ROM,it's developing very fast,but not stable as cm9
Yeah, it's not so stable as CM9, and honestly, not so fast. Epsylon's CM9 was really really fast. CM10 is in my opinion something biggest which our phone can't hold on.
After installing all my applications which I am using there is only about 50MB free ram. After one day of using there is even less and phone needs to be restarted because of hard lags in launcher.
I am going back to CM9, differences are not so big. But I'll miss the notification bar.