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I'm new at Android (have jailbroken Iphones before) so these questions are probably basic.... I have a KF that has been rooted, but until ICS is stable, and maybe not even until it gets USB host mode (if ever), I will probably not be changing ROMs. I am mostly happy with the current state of the KF, but have been reading forums. I see that TWRP can save you later on if you mess something up, so that brings up quesitons. BTW, I followed the tutorial on androidpolice to get the root done. S, on to the Qs...
1) Should I install TWRP on my device if I don't plan to put on any ROMs?
2) How can TWRP help you?
3) Any concerns with installing TWRP at this point, when everything is working?
TWRP is working just fine. It allows you to make backups of the current setup in case you break things.
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Absolutely reccomended. ESPECIALLY if you are new. It alwows easy backups and recoveries in case you jack something up.
1 thing ur iphone never couod do, make a true backup of ur current state. it saves u down the road. i have a backup of completely stock and i make one of cm7 every now n than just incase
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Thanks for all the advice. I did install TWRP last night. Simple to do, made a backup, and all is well. Thanks for all the advice.
I am real new to the KindleFire community but so far loving my Kfire. I see in slot of posts they say to use TWRP to install or update a ROM. Since I have CWM installed can I use it instead are they interchangeable for installing files?
Hope that make sense.
Thanks
Rod
most people are taking about twrp because it was the first recovery for the kf
cwm is quite new for the kf
you can use both to install roms ...
Cwm is able to be updated by current developers. Twrp looks cool, but just needs to be updated. If someone updates the reboot wrappers it'd be a winner. But I do like and prefer cwm
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yeah twrp is dead for our device. cwm is still alive though
paranoid android85 said:
yeah twrp is dead for our device. cwm is still alive though
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Is there or link or how-to to swtich from TWRP to CWM? Does CWM have all the features as TWRP? I have been using TWRP since I rooted the KF, have used it to back up, flash new roms to try out, flash back to my backup. CWM does all this, just dosn't have the nice CWM interface?
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Is there or link or how-to to swtich from TWRP to CWM? Does CWM have all the features as TWRP? I have been using TWRP since I rooted the KF, have used it to back up, flash new roms to try out, flash back to my backup. CWM does all this, just dosn't have the nice CWM interface?
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The easiest way is to use THIS method, just be sure to unzip the file on your Kindle rather than on a computer or it may not work correctly. The only difference I've noticed between CWM and TWRP is that CWM does not compress the backup so the file is a lot bigger, my backups used to be in the low 500mb range and now they are in the low 800's.
Any particular reason to migrate to CWM? I have TWRP from the first day ant it doing a job very well. So, did CWM have any new features?
gett said:
Any particular reason to migrate to CWM? I have TWRP from the first day ant it doing a job very well. So, did CWM have any new features?
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Development should be the main reason imo I think the interface looks way better. I got annoyed by the flickering backlight with twrp. It does all the same things, but cwm looks better. Plus before I switched, twrp wouldn't flash roms or gapps all the time, it would get stuck and I would have to reboot
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gett said:
Any particular reason to migrate to CWM? I have TWRP from the first day ant it doing a job very well. So, did CWM have any new features?
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For me there was not a reason to use TWRP as I have been using CWM for the last several years on smartphones and was more comfortable with it. I also read several articles where people had issues with TWRP so with as much problems as I was having trying to root my kindle because of USB driver I wanted to stick with something I know. So I thought it best to stick with and old friend I was used too. Not saying one is better than the other I just like CWM better for me and think it gives me more options to perform operations on my phone and kindle.
Rod
How have the pros and cons changed with the intro of TWRP 2.1? I am currently using CWM touch but prefer the TWRP interface, but don't want to sacrifice any features.
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How have the pros and cons changed with the intro of TWRP 2.1? I am currently using CWM touch but prefer the TWRP interface, but don't want to sacrifice any features.
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all the reboot option in twrp are still broken so Cwm is still the way to go and mabe im ocd but i like haveing Cwm on my phone and tablet plus you dont have to worry about accidenty hiting reboot to recovery and being in a boot loop
different versions of CWM touch?
I just switched from CWM touch (DooMLorD) v1.0 Final to v5.0.2.7-kf1.5 I was wondering what the differences are? I tried the Change UI color feature, but it doesn't seem to work, just stays red. is there something I'm missing? and what else was changed?
its just cleaned up. not sure why it wont change colors, works fine on my device I tested all the colors when I posted the screen shots.
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its just cleaned up. not sure why it wont change colors, works fine on my device I tested all the colors when I posted the screen shots.
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I installed it and changed it to cyan with no problem! Thanks!
PS, not to resurrect a dead issue, make sure you use Root Browser (if you used Root Explorer it may not have updated check the version).
smirkis said:
its just cleaned up. not sure why it wont change colors, works fine on my device I tested all the colors when I posted the screen shots.
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Hmmm....I followed the instructions to the letter, even retried it, then rebooted, no luck, installed TWRP, rebooted, reinstalled CWMT 1.5 still no luck with colors. It's not really a big deal, I'm just Being kinda OCD! Everything else about it work perfect though....
P.S. I realize this probably belongs in the DEV thread, but I can't post there yet YAY For Noobs!!
I will be receiving my Nexus 7 this week and would like to get some opinions on which CWMR seems the best based on user accounts. I'm conducting a poll to see which one everyone prefers. I've always been partial to the original CWMR but would like to change it up a bit. If you vote please tell me why you like the one you use over the others available. This will give us some insight on the pros and cons of each version.
None of them. CWM 5.8.0.2 Touch flashed via boot loader. Doing full backups each time is slow but I've found 6.0.1.0 less favourable to me.
you should consider twrp recovery. its also touch based, has more feature than cwm, much less buggy than cwm, and overall much more user friendly.
Thanks for the comments! I am considering TWRP since I hear good things about it. I also read that it compresses backups to save space. Just little nervous about touch driven recovery, I might touch the wrong selection by accident. I did that once installing recovery on my girls captivate with rom manager. Luckily I was able to reflash the correct version without any problems.
TWRP.... touch just lets you select what you want. You confirm most selections by using a slide approval. Compression works well. Now can name backups.
Started using on the KF and then my HTC Rezound where CWM had issues when the phone battery got low and would not let it charge.
In your poll, not sure what CWMR- TWRP 2.2.1 is supposed to be. TWRP is from TeamWIN not CWM
http://www.teamw.in/project/twrp2/103
I'm still on stock in the meantime, in-case there's more OTA updates this month.
From what I've read, TWRP is what I will mostly likely go with at the end of the month. Heard too much bad things about CWM's blobs taking up space and not being deletable, especially if you only want to carry one nandroid backup at a time.
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TWRP.... touch just lets you select what you want. You confirm most selections by using a slide approval. Compression works well. Now can name backups.
Started using on the KF and then my HTC Rezound where CWM had issues when the phone battery got low and would not let it charge.
In your poll, not sure what CWMR- TWRP 2.2.1 is supposed to be. TWRP is from TeamWIN not CWM
http://www.teamw.in/project/twrp2/103
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Yeah I know...hehe I tried to edit my poll but was unable to. I guess the term of CWM to me is the means of flashing roms and doing backups. Sorry Team Win did not mean to generalize. I'm just glad we have TWRP as another option.
In Clockwork Mod, in build [ROM][JB] CM10 for Ideapad K1 (Big thanks to krook1, it runs great) (I'm running version 2). Whenever I attempt to use any of the features it asks me to install the recovery (which I know I have, and can boot to it) and asks me to choose my device.. Which it then only gives me the ASUS TRANSFORMER as an option.
So, on Version 1 of this build, some time back. I said, what the heck, why not. Let it do its thing,rebooted.. and the system would not ever boot. Just hung at the CM10 boot animation.
Whatever. I used the NVFlash version, got it back up and running. Rebooted in to CWR, and flashed the [ROM]CM10 for Ideapad K1 version 2 CWM version on it. No real loss.
However, Id really rather not have to wipe my device again to go to version 3, or 4.. and I don't want to get stuck at a boot animation again.
Is it normal for the CWM to identify this build as a ASUS TRANSFORMER?
Thanks
Basically ROM manager doesn't support our device directly. Someone ported cwm recovery for our device.
Again if you try using cwm meant for other device it won't work.
I have same issue with my phone.
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Thank you for the reply.
I figured it was something along those lines. What doesn't make sense to me is, if Krook1 took the time to make a CWM enabled ROM, then one would assume that in the build process the proper porting/modifications will have taken place. Otherwise why bother?
That said, I have no doubts about XDA's fine developers, the author of this one included in that. Thus it must be something specific to either that build revision (V1 at the time) or something specific to my tablet (possibly the remnant of an earlier flash [is that even possible with NVFlash and the format it does prior to flashing?]). If it is the latter, then what actions might I take to correct it?
I guess, what I am trying to mine out of this thread is has anyone else running this build have the same issue (Does it prompt for the ASUS?) and if so, did it work as intended. I'm just a little gun shy of trying it again now that the tablet is setup. However as aforementioned I would like the ability to use later revisions of this ROM, while reaping the benefits of the paid CWM.
-Cheers.
I see the same time to thing on my k1.
ROM manager will not show us tablet unless the ROM manager creator adds our device to his app.
Again ROM manager is not a required app and can be safely removed. I don't use it at all.
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Hello, Im new to this and was able to root my TF101 build .27 with oneclickrecovery V0.4, which installed SUPERUSER v3.0.7
Wanted to install the EOS 4 JB because I read this is very Fast and Stable. This is what is important to me, hence the root.
Now how do I use this and install the ROM?
Is there a youtube or link that someone can direct me to?
Have a look here:
http://www.transformerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33773
You will need to update to TWRP 2.3.2.3 (highly recommended) via GooManager
THank you for the link. I tried to install easyflasher but I think when I installed oneclickrecovery, it installed Rogue XM Team which I think is my flasher (instead of easyflasher)..when I rebooted with VOL_DN & PWR, then VOL-UP, it went to Rogue XM Team instead of easyflasher.
So can I just download the ROM into my SD Card and use the menu from the Rogue "install from .zip file"?
Is this the method?
I know Im half way there but need guidence for finish the rest. thanks for your help.
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THank you for the link. I tried to install easyflasher but I think when I installed oneclickrecovery, it installed Rogue XM Team which I think is my flasher (instead of easyflasher)..when I rebooted with VOL_DN & PWR, then VOL-UP, it went to Rogue XM Team instead of easyflasher.
So can I just download the ROM into my SD Card and use the menu from the Rogue "install from .zip file"?
Is this the method?
I know Im half way there but need guidence for finish the rest. thanks for your help.
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I'll alleviate some of your confusion lol, Rouge XM etc are recoveries (that are accessed via holding vol down and power) Easyflasher is a program that runs off your pc and allows you to install a recovery (like Rouge, TWRP or CWM). Easyflasher also works as an unbrick tool (if you do something wrong and mess up your tf101 easyflasher will restore it back to stock)
When using a recovery you need to place the rom on your sd card (some recoveries will only allow flashing from internal or external sd card's not both, but in the case of rouge it access both) then wipe the device (this will get rid of data etc, so if your going to make a back up this is the time) and then wipe everything except for battery stats (it isnt necessary to wipe everything but im not using the same recovery so i cant remember what the options say on rouge so just wipe everything for now) then flash the rom with "install for .zip"(and anything that goes with it i.e gapps or another kernel----- depends on the rom your using) and then just to be safe wipe the devlik cache again and reboot.
hipertec said:
THank you for the link. I tried to install easyflasher but I think when I installed oneclickrecovery, it installed Rogue XM Team which I think is my flasher (instead of easyflasher)..when I rebooted with VOL_DN & PWR, then VOL-UP, it went to Rogue XM Team instead of easyflasher.
So can I just download the ROM into my SD Card and use the menu from the Rogue "install from .zip file"?
Is this the method?
I know Im half way there but need guidence for finish the rest. thanks for your help.
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I would STRONGLY suggest switching to TWRP. Rogue will work for now, but if you flash updates to this ROM, the new file structure for 4.2 will cause your /sdcard/ to end up in the /sdcard/0/ directory, and after another flash it will be /sdcard/0/0/. You can move the files, but IMO TWRP is much better anyway (it can flash from internal and external storage).
You can install GooManager and choose to install open recoveryscript from the menu, or you can use the dd command and a terminal emulator to install TWRP:
First, download the twrp blob from here: http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/tf101
Rename the 2.3.2.3 blob to TWRP.blob
Method 1
Open a terminal emulator.
Code:
$ [B]su[/B]
# [B]dd if=/sdcard/TWRP.blob of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p4[/B]
# [B]reboot[/B]
It is important to just do a reboot, if you reboot to recovery immediately it WILL NOT update the recovery. Upon reboot, you should see a progress indicator at the Eee Pad screen. Feel free to reboot to recovery after this (even before it boots).
I strongly recommend reading the post by Fredurco in the link he provided. As a matter of fact, read the first three posts. These are the most detailed instructions for any ROM I've ever seen and believe me, I've seen more than a few. Take your time and just follow those directions to the letter and you will be fine.
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IMO TWRP is much better anyway (it can flash from internal and external storage).
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I agree, rogue can also flash from internal and external, but twrp is the best, I need to update PERI to include it...
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I agree, rogue can also flash from internal and external, but twrp is the best, I need to update PERI to include it...
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Yeah, get crackin!
Thanks everyone for your help. Got it updated to eos4. Is there another ROM that is fast and stable?
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Thanks everyone for your help. Got it updated to eos4. Is there another ROM that is fast and stable?
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Nothing as fast, eos3 in my opinion is the stablest custom ROM I've used but I can't move away from eos4, plus when timduru release the cornerstone build my tablet is gonna get some major use.
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Thanks everyone for your help. Got it updated to eos4. Is there another ROM that is fast and stable?
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Nothing as fast, eos3 in my opinion is the stablest custom ROM I've used but I can't move away from eos4, plus when timduru release the cornerstone build my tablet is gonna get some major use.
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I agree! EOS 4 IMO is the most usable and stable 4.2 build. My biggest complaint with the CM10.1 build was the touchpad disable was not working. It is still a great ROM otherwise and pretty stable.
As far as 4.1 ROMs, EOS 3 is solid, and so is the CM10/PananoidAndroid hybrid.
I am definitely itching for some cornerstone love!
I use liquidsmooth currently, and it's my new favorite, since everything works. I haven't found or noticed any bugs, which is rare.
EOS4 is also good, but I just don't like the feel of it oddly. Very well built and worth a shot though.
Hi Fred! Dug my TF101 out of moth balls and put on EOS4.
Had some trouble with the drivers, So I ended up using 1 from column A, 2 from column B:silly:
end result, got my drivers, APX mode going, (cross between oneclickrecovery, easyflash, nvFlash, Universal Naked Drivers),
Finally got twrp on and flashed superuser
got twrp-goo manager to update it, Flashed EOS4- saw updated recovery did not stick, finished the flash, updated twrp again, reflashed eos4- saw twrp update did stick this time, and now get to play with the TF 101 all over again!
Everything old is new again!
Thanks Fred! Your post on the TF forum was great, and XDA supplemented what wasn't working for me!! Great teamwork:victory:
Thanks to Fred's excellent tuts, I was able to easily get TWRP installed and rooted (although it did kill my WiFi somehow, which I'm hoping will be solved with a different ROM), but have a dilemma:
Not to hijack (didn't see the point of starting a new thread about the same thing, but I will if you guys want me to) but which ROM will give the best video performance? I'm not trying to do 1080 stuff or anything naive like that, but I would at least like to be able to watch some of the lower quality 720p stuff (NPW's releases are very good) without stuttering or syncing issues.
Note: I'm not trying to do everything with this tablet and overall I'm VERY satisfied with the overall performance and wouldn't even be tinkering with it at all (I've had it for over a year on stock ICS) if I didn't travel a lot and use it to watch movies on the go. I only use this tablet for gaming, surfing, movies and lots of document viewing (PDF, MSOffice, etc). I don't care about GPS or the camera. I have a phone for that. However, I don't have the time or means to be constantly reflashing this thing because WiFi drops out every 30 minutes or something like that.
Basically, I'm looking for the ROM with the best combo of:
- Stability
- Respectable HD-ish video playback
I'm not a total Android noob. I spent many hours tinkering with my old Nook Color back in the day, so no worries there. I'm just looking for reliable video playback on the go. I've been looking at Android Revolution HD to preserve the ASUS File Manager and things like that, but really haven't seen anything definitive about video playback improvements. I'm open to moving up to JB, but its not a burning desire or anything.
Thanks!
LongbowFoSho said:
Thanks to Fred's excellent tuts, I was able to easily get TWRP installed and rooted (although it did kill my WiFi somehow, which I'm hoping will be solved with a different ROM), but have a dilemma:
Not to hijack (didn't see the point of starting a new thread about the same thing, but I will if you guys want me to) but which ROM will give the best video performance? I'm not trying to do 1080 stuff or anything naive like that, but I would at least like to be able to watch some of the lower quality 720p stuff (NPW's releases are very good) without stuttering or syncing issues.
Note: I'm not trying to do everything with this tablet and overall I'm VERY satisfied with the overall performance and wouldn't even be tinkering with it at all (I've had it for over a year on stock ICS) if I didn't travel a lot and use it to watch movies on the go. I only use this tablet for gaming, surfing, movies and lots of document viewing (PDF, MSOffice, etc). I don't care about GPS or the camera. I have a phone for that. However, I don't have the time or means to be constantly reflashing this thing because WiFi drops out every 30 minutes or something like that.
Basically, I'm looking for the ROM with the best combo of:
- Stability
- Respectable HD-ish video playback
I'm not a total Android noob. I spent many hours tinkering with my old Nook Color back in the day, so no worries there. I'm just looking for reliable video playback on the go. I've been looking at Android Revolution HD to preserve the ASUS File Manager and things like that, but really haven't seen anything definitive about video playback improvements. I'm open to moving up to JB, but its not a burning desire or anything.
Thanks!
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I guess I am not sure what is causing your WiFi stability issues. I have no problems with the EOS 4 ROM and WiFi. It never drops out on me. It is perfectly stable, and I can play 720p H264 23.94 FPS mkv files with no issues using MX player.
Before I ran EOS 4, I was running the ParanoidAndroid/CM10 Hybrid ROM and it was just as stable and fast.
If you are having WiFi issues, did you do all the wipes (Cache, Davlik, System, Factory Reset) before flashing the ROM? If not, then that is probably where the WiFi issue is (settings from your previous ICS ROM still present on the data partition).
Disregard the bit about the WiFi. I disconnected and reconnected to my network and all is well.
It sounds like EOS4 is the only ROM that is still consistently updated. I'll give it a shot and see how it goes.
Thanks!
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Disregard the bit about the WiFi. I disconnected and reconnected to my network and all is well.
It sounds like EOS4 is the only ROM that is still consistently updated. I'll give it a shot and see how it goes.
Thanks!
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EOS4 and the CM10.1 No-Name are the only ones getting regular updates.
Thanks for the quick responses. EOS 4 is installed and process of redownloading all my apps. Now I just need to test out some video. I'm testing it without the OC kernel first, just for fun.
If you wanna see more in-depth which rom is better, I recommend a little app called Antutu benchmark, it'll give your current setup a score depending on how fast it does things like 3d renderind, sd card reading and battery performance
I might be in the minority with this opinion, but after some tinkering I'm not all that convinced that EOS is any faster than the stock ROM from a general usability standpoint (even with the latest KAT kernel), but the video is definitely improved, so I'll keep it as my "daily driver".
Thanks for the help, guys!